Prove time exists

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>>724205931
It is commonly accepted that it does, the burden of proof that it does not is on you friend.

>>724205931
What does your clock say right now?
When you're ready for something, do you say "it's time for...".
Does the sun work on a 24 hour continuous rota for you?

>>724206011
>>724206435

yeah but prove it

prove yesterday happened

>>724206011
No it doesn't actually "exist". It exists the same way love does. It's a concept of our perception.

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>>724205931
Prove time exists

It was 7pm earlier. Now it's 2:44am. I win.

>>724206611
Not entirely true, time is a constant which can be measured (for example with a stopwatch). Love cannot be measured scientifically.

>>724205931
Time is a concept.
Concepts exist because we think about them.

>>724205931

Time is a function of entropy. Once entropy has run its course and the universe has achieved thermal equilibrium, time will also cease.

OP, were you a faggot before? yes Are you a faggot now? yes. That space in between is time.

>>724205931
When?

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>>724206702

Love is measured in Swayzes

>>724205931
Time is just some shit some dude made up to represent a 'time' to which we can all relate to for the purpose of doing shit.
Hard to get shit done when the concept of I'll meet you at 2 pm doesn't exist, or is vauge hand gestures as to where the sun is in the sky.

>>724206702
Yeah my comparison was stupid but you get what I mean.

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>>724205931

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>>724205931
>>724206677
Prove time exists

>>724206826

Yeah but there were no changes so how do I know if time really happened or not?

>>724205931
Look at a clock

>>724206702

Love can be measured scientifically

>>724205931
It's the way human beings percieve the world and built knowledge about it. It has no existence outside ourselves ---> "Critique of Pure Reason" Kant
It's only a social construct of modern times. It has no exsitence outside certain types of societies ---> "an essay about Time", Norbert Elias

At this moment I'm anticipating your original, which you've yet to share and thinking you're a faggot, ergo tempus est.

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>>724205931
Things decay, you dumb motherfuckers. Do you not know what a half-life is? If a radioactive material decays to half of what it was yesterday, it's because of time. Get the fuck out with your middle school metaphysics.

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>>724207208
maybe the perception of "time" is a sense like touch or taste HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM really makes you think. Maybe there's some species out there who can scan through time like a radio dial.

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Velocity exists. I hope we can all agree on that.
v=(d/t), or velocity equals change in position divided by the change in time for whatever you're measuring. All three variables are observable, and we can confirm that they have a set, formulaic relationship with each other.
Without change in position, you don't have velocity. Without change in time, you don't have velocity. Therefore, since velocity exists, so does time.
Time might not be tangible, but it exists
/thread

The thinking that time is a tool created by our minds to help us string together moments is already a pretty common premise for the majority of physicists. There's a great book called "Beyond Biocentrism" that goes over the concept of time not existing.

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>>724207425
Wut

>>724206930
/thread

u got rekt OP

First, prove i exist. Until then, i cant help ya

>>724206930
>>724207823

Nobody has been wrecked. Prove it was anything at all that was in between that.

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>>724205931
you made this thread, have been lurking in this thread, and now i'm responding to this thread

do you know what happened between, during, and now after all of those events?

time.

without time, they would have all happened at once, and you would have no specific memory of them being separate occasions.

Q.E.D.

>>724207445
Circular logic. You are defining the answer by using the answer.

Q: What is the definition of "big"?
A: Something that is bigger than small.
Result: FAIL

>>724208015
because CPU GHZ duh.

>>724208201
So where am I wrong? Either velocity, position, and time exist, or they don't. You find out by observing the world, not by having metaphysical circlejerks on 4chan.
For example, if I want to break your nose, I would throw my fist right at your nose. Position, velocity, and time are all measurable.

it doesn't faggot


it's an illusion

>>724208201
You're a fucking idiot. There's nothing circular about defining a variable using two measurable quantities.

>>724206702
>Love cannot be measured scientifically.


But my boner can. Kind of similar, isn't it?

I already didn't.

>>724208154
As far as I know, they haven't discovered time particles yet, making the whole thing moot.

>>724205931
>Prove time exists


It doesn't, the brain creates experience of time through the relative motion of particles in the brain.

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>>724207208

>>724208381
> Implying you could actually hit me
> Implying you have the strength to break a nose
> Implying you wouldn't think twice when you realized I would vaporize you if you got a shot in.

Circular logic (part 2)
you say that: V = D/T
I have D and V, therefore I have T.
OK

>>724205931
So what if time doesn't exist? Why should anybody give a fuck what you think?

there is this thing we call the "past" . The past are events that have occured before now. Time is everything that will eventually become the past.

>>724208961

OP here best comment sf

>>724208441
unless that variable is defined by using the unknown variable in question. refer back to what I posted re: definition.

>>724205931
Wait a sec...


...there you go.

>>724208960
also:
<<<Navy Seal Post>>>

>>724209023
what is the definition of "past", without using the concept of time?

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>>724208705
they haven' t discovered dark matter particles either, yet its commonly accepted in the scientific community that it comprises 85% of the universe

>>724206702
It isn't exactly constant. Gravity and speed both change the perception of time

>>724209131

Dark matter isn't matter it's gravity.

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>>724205931
Apparently time can be observed by noticing how matter has a tendency to move from a state of disorder (a sandcastle) to a state of order (sand grains evenly dispersed on a beach) On a larger scale, the universe can be observed to be expanding outwards, to a point that galaxies, stars, atoms and finally sub-atomic particles are ripped apart until the universe is a finely and uniformly dispersed soup of the basest constituents of matter. A sandcastle cannot build itself, you can't uncut your hair, the Sun will eventually use up its fuel and collapse, and the universe will dissolve into pure energy. This all happens in a linear direction, suggesting there is such a thing as time, and it only travels in one direction.

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>>724209220
see? now we're getting somewhere

now next step, prove gravity exists

we're almost there!

>>724209084
Lol, right?

>>724208960
"Vaporize"? Lolnope.
And I'm not *saying* that V=D/T. I'm *observing* that V=D/T. Observation isn't circular.
We can argue about how substantial that "really" is, whatever "reality" is anyway, but the point is we perceive a constant formulaic relationship between the three variables. It. Doesn't. Change. For all practical intents and purposes, time exists.

Just matter in a different state

>>724206986
You became a bigger faggot.. voila.. change

>>724209430

I cannot. I just know that time has to be explained in order to move to gravity because gravity has more power than time.

Space/Time is caused by the speed of light.

>Well kinda, it's too complicated to explain.

>>724209533
so are you saying that you can go to a drag race, drink a beer, eat a pretzel and prove time exists?

>>724209577

doesn't explain time just the OP is a fag constant, which isn't related to spacetime.

>>724205931
this happened.

>>724209682
And while THIS >>724209682 happened,

you didn't know that THIS happened.

>>724209710
And while THIS>>724209710
happened,

you didn't know that THIS happened.

>>724209131
Dark matter is a difference in vacuum energy.

>>724206883
And boned chicks.

>>724205931
newfags everywhere, i cant prove time exists, but i heard somewhere that if an astronaut were to travel to pluto and back, their days would have been weeks to us.

>failing for this bait
Op is a faggot he will keep ignoring and dismissing your proof and I doubt he could understand actual scientific proof like the second law of thermodynamics

You guys are just wasting time with this faggot

>>724209664
Is that not enough to /thread?

Hes just a stoner kid trying to sound smart

>>724205931
Time.....is on my side!

>Answers OP
>Ignored

>>724209961
just for clarification, the farther we get from the center of the universe, the more time we have in a day, which leads me to believe... what if we were able to travel to the farthest place of our universe, would time almost be forever? would we live almost forever?

>>724209657
I mean, I'd rather have a nice shot of whiskey than a beer. Other than that, practically speaking, yeah.
Logic, science, and math are based on things that we observe first, and think about and write down later. You want to prove time exists? Watch a drag race. Calculate the velocity of that car that took first place if it makes you feel better. It's more effective and prudent than this conversation, that's for damn sure.
I'm too tired for this, I'm heading to bed. Maybe I'll never wake up, since you know, no time exists to pass between falling asleep and waking up. Cheers!

>>724209969
but are we really wasting TIME?

>>724209969

I understand everything in this thread

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>>724210017
OP is in the spirit world, devout of time and space.

That's what happens when you fuck with time and question it.

>>724210017

I've got like three threads going and I only like the wacky responses. Sorry man I'm really bad at managing my time.

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It doesn't nice work. someone pays attention in class. faggot. also WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT PICTURE?! JESUS FUCK! SHIT! SAVED.

>>724210152
faggot you gave up too soon. You achieved victory.

I made you prove a very important concept about science, and you did it. Well done.

BTW, the term "never" is a time related concept. FYI.

>>724206930
but has it felt like that long?

>>724209374
TLDR: Entropy proves time is linear and moves in one direction

prove it doesnt exist

>>724210512
No.
actually, when I made the screen shot, initially I though it was a 2 minute gap. when I made it turned into 9 mins. BOOM!

WTF happened to those 7 mins?? Options:
> Aliens (ass feels OK tho)
> I was in a Japanese Porno (ass feels OK tho)
> Time is a lie
> passed out or had a brain fart
> Mandela Effect, hyper compressed

>>724210778
Burden of proof is on the person making such ridiculous claims as time existing

>>724210778
religiontard detected. too much thinking in this thread for you I'm afraid. Best get out before you start to use the old noggin.

>>724210880
actually i'm an atheist however i believe in order to discover the truth the absolute true truth you must always question yourself

anyway things constantly change i suppose if time didn't exist then nothing would change everything would be still how about that?

>>724205931
The only time you can measure is the past. There is no future time because the future is uncertain.

>>724211097
let me introduce you to my friends, the comma ",", the period ".", and the semi-colon ";".

change alone isn't enough to imply time (or thats all it does is imply). In quantum mechanics we've learned that an entity can be in both states at the same time - something which seems to happen without respect to time.

I think to prove time we need something else, something deeper.

>>724211404
however what you stated in post >>724211285 implies basically that this uncertainty is future time which does not necessarily exist and/or is not measurable from the present however all of this evidence seems to point out that there is a future uncertainty that is defined by/at the present and can be recorded before it moves into the past i believe that this concept is time and thus time exists

>>724205931
Time as a concept or a unit of measurement?
>as a unit of measurment
Your post proves this one. You posted at
>03/03/17:02:33:07
Which indicates a moment down to the second intime in which you uploaded your post
>as a concept
Your post
>>724205931
and this post
>>724208015
occured at
>03/03/17(Fri)02:33:07
and
>03/03/17(Fri)03:03:15
respectively.
there is just over 30 minutes in between these posts. The passage of that time is only able to be understood through the concept of time passing. Which is all time is. A concept of ether we move though in a direction that is best understood when compared to distances and physical locations. forward through time.

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>>724206541
>being this retarded

>>724211843

unscientific

you're using evidence you don't even know for sure is real

>>724211826
PS i know i sort of fucked up with the explanation but i think my point is within grasp from my statement

>>724211927

wake up

>>724207445
/thread

shows over boys pack it up

>>724212431

He's using circular logic dude don't trust him

>>724211826
at first I was going to comment about how those links were not both me. Then the meat of your post gave my brain a hernia.

after a recovery period:
1 - refer to the comment on punctuation pls.
2 - as weird as it sounds, be careful with "evidence" Evidence is an interpretation of what happens based on our understanding, view point/models of the world and bias. We filter data, distort it and call it evidence. re: damned near any scientific stuff out of Greece in the olden days.
3- the word "believe" and the word "proof" are opposites.

I'm at my limit dude. May you dream of large women.

>>724205931
The wave harmonic theory of historical perception, in its simplest form, states that history is an illusion caused by the passage of time, and that time is an illusion caused by the passage of history.

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>>724212530
>circle
>time
time is a flat circel..

>>724212047
actually I agree with this. What equipment are using for this "measurement", and what bias/preconceived outcome does it follow?

I can invent a device that measures Flux Capacitance and use it in a fancy equation. so what?

>>724212236
a) I got you, b) not so sure about that. lol That shit was "out there"

>>724212754

Is that why we have time zones because since the earth is flat, the time circle wraps around the earth like a dial? Is this also why when you call China from the USA, you're talking to somebody from yesterday? That makes more sense than anything else in this thread.

Time doesn't exist clocks exist
Space doesn't exist tape measures exist
Walls don't exist Mexicans exist

>>724212939
yes.

>>724212939
holy shit we got Stephen F. Hawking onna thread!! smartest nigga in here.

Can't argue with the logic SFH.

>>724205931

KIll yourself, don't exist tomorrow. Profit ???

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>>724213083

>>724212694
that has got to be one of the most neck bearded fedora wearing comets you could have made behind as you wish

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>>724213258
I gave /b/ about a 10% chance of getting that line. Good job.

>>724213188

you first

>>724205931
Take a piece of paper. Then burn it. If time doesn't exist then it would be burned and not burned at the same time. That's a logical contradiction. Therefore time exists.

>>724213598
woah - watch out everyone. we have a comeback master in the house

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>>724213615
see Quantum Mechanics and this guy's thoughts.

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The earth rotates thats all you need to know

>>724213649

this isn't a house

>>724213784
after reading your book, I have to reconsider.

Your approach is one that is short and sweet; an economy of words - maximum insult as quickly as possible.

Or - you are a mongoloid on opiates in an Ohio basement.

Can't decide. gimme more to work with.

>>724213615
I shouldn't have said "at the same time" since time itself is being argued. Revise it to simply "it would be burned and not burned". The conclusion remains the same.

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never argue with a retard on /b/!

>>724205931
OP, watch the first episode of "Wonders Of The Universe"

>>724206011
mideval logic
>Prove god exists
>it is commonly accepted that he does, therefore the burden of proof is on you to disprove him

Op here I'm surprised my bait thread got this far kek

>>724213957

Shakespeare told me to keep it short and he was well good with words so you'd better listen to him

>>724214100

Impostor I'm not that gay

Its easier to prove that aliens exists

>>724214267
They wouldn't make so many movies about it if there wasn't some truth to it.

>>724206611
You are right in that the only thing that exists is the present. The past and the future only exist in our minds, as a human concept.

How many times has OP had sex with an actual female?

Zero! I guess time doesn't exist for that faggot!

>>724206702
The only objective measure of a clock is another clock. That should give you pause. Imo time doesn't exist. Nor does free will. Basically we are characters in a book printed on holographic film.

>>724205931
I alredy did yrsterday. Why do you ask this every day.
If you deny this you are basically saying it didn't happen, which means you do understand time and live within it; awknoleging its existance.
If ypu don't, then you are confirming you are delusional and/or have no knowledge, therefore i can tell you anything and you heve no basis to refute it.
Check!

>>724208960
This anon (perhaps OP himself?) is completely correct insofar as the circularity of the argument.

To answer OP's question you must flip the question. Time in and of itself does not exist. Rather, spacetime exists, which is so simple yet unintuitive a concept that only few people truly understand it.

>>724215033
Δt=0

qed

>>724215208
wrong.
incorrect.

we are just dust in the wind.

>>724205931
measure the movement of light
profit

>>724206821
The direction of time, not time itself, is a function of entropy. As long as there is a Universe thermal equilibrium cannot be achieved due to the fluctuating vacuum effect.

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it's called General Relativity you pretentious faggot. why does every edgy teenager think they know time doesn't exist?

go to bed, Jayden

>>724209131
Not true. Research grants are more commonly available for dark matter projects than the alternatives. This grants the illusion that more scientists believe in it but there are more elegant theories which explain the missing mass. Dark matter is a fraud.

>>724217186
replace the term "dark matter" with "Global warming" and contemplate. Exact same scenario.

>>724217418
Exact opposite scenario. One is reasonable explanation for something we can observe other is silly fantasy for something we cannot observe.

>>724217659
was making that point only on the words posted, nothing more.

>>724207167
oh ya how you trap boy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_field_equations

>>724217418
>two instances of extant phenomena without a causal explanation

Hey, looks like you were right

>>724208960
lol you fail at algebra

>>724209737
but then this happened.
thus, time.
cuz that happened before.
and here I am
rock you like a hurricane.

>>724214201
you're pretty gay, wouldn't put it behind you

T=VxD
or Traps=Vag x Dick
Mystery of time solved

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>>724210289
>devout of time and space.
What did he mean by this?

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>>724217023
>thinks the map is the territory

>>724208441
No you're a fucking idiot, the variables are not independent of each other.

>>724206011
>When you read about logic without understanding it.

Time is tautological and therefore is its own proof aka self-evident

>>724218817
I think probably devoid.

Our perception of it makes it real.

>>724223342
Post-modernist spotted

>>724206541
earth revolved around its axis and I can trace the date on its orbit around the Sun. Get fucked.

>>724205931
distance=velocity*time

E=V*T

T!!!!

>>724206677
nice reference my nigga

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>>724205931
Why are you changing right now?
Because time.

Q.E.D.

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>>724205931

>>724205931
You posted this 5 hours and 32 minutes ago. Those are measurements of time.

>>724223910
That all depends on the velocity of the observer, as well, furthermore the subject, of which that equation is applied to, will experience time differently depending on the velocity as time dilates as the subject nears the speed of light.

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THERE IS NO TIME. THE PAST IS A REMEMBRANCE OF THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE IS AN ANTICIPATION OF THE PRESENT

I HAVE SPOKEN

HEAR MY TRUTH

>>724206541
cause today happened?

>>724224712
ergo, time exist