>>724038253 You find yourself not quite running your body. Your body starts to act on its own, without conscious intervention. For me, this is frightening, but others find a deep inner peace in realizing that they no longer need to intervene in events.
>>724037911 dissociatives are great, but you need to know how to use them. Ketamine for example only pays off iv or im! Snorting it is hardly enjoyable.
You have to try it, I find it hard to explain. Its a trip, but more introverted like dreaming really intense... Other good dissociative drugs are mxe (lasts longer and you dont have to shoot up) - my favourite. PCP, pretty good or DXM, which is otc cough medicine (at least here) but some people, including me, don't respond well to it. The effects lasted longer than two days. good times, experimenting with drugs...
>>724038513 Sounds like a dosage problem. My first experiments with dissoz sucked, because I thought they would work like psychedelics and I took a small dosage and stayed conscious. But thats not how they work. You have to leave the conscious plateau in order to enjoy the real trip. Staying awake often feels like being poisened, not pleasent at all. Thats why snorting ketamine is usually not pleasant because you don't absorb enough material fast enough to reach the threshold and get the full impact.
Not him, but not really. You're still in control, but everything you do still feels like you're not really the one doing it, like you're just along for the ride. You're not gonna get up and walk into traffic or anything like that if that's what you're worried about.
You're not really gonna feel like moving at all on either one if that helps.
>>724039106 yeah its similar, afair keta is a bit more intense I guess but mxe lasts way longer.
I stopped using them though since the first reports of really bad bladderproblem showed up online. Ppl who took ket/mxe/pcp regularly started pissing blood and their bladder startet to dissolve somehow. But thats a problem for hardcoreusers. A trip now and then is no problem imo but I'm an addict and tend to overdo stuff so I stopped doing dissoz.
>>724040963 The problem with RC's is that we don't know the long term risks. I saw recently a article for example that 4-FA might have the same neurotoxicity as MDMA and thus it is adviced to to take breaks of 1-3 months. But yeah this mught be false as there isn't enough research to draw real conclusions
>>724040154 Depends what chemical. 4AcODMT, AL-LAD, Pro-AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, Pro-ETH-LAD, 1PLSD, and ALD52 are currently considered "research chemicals", and in the past, so was the elusive Diazadine - aka, LSZ.
>>724042052 true, there is a risk. I went through shitloads of 4-fmp and tons other rcs many years ago and I'm not sure if it affected me negatively. But then i took every drug known to man during the last 15 years so if one day my dick falls off or anything similar, i wont know which drug is to blame.
>>724040333 >makes your vagoo tighter Is this real? My ex practically lived for ketamine and she had the tightest pussy I will ever come across, but I more or less assumed it was because she was repeatedly raped since she was about 5 and it was all the scar tissue in her snatch. (long story. I'm not a rapist tho lets put that out there)
tried DXM with cough syrup once, if you're gonna do this remember to eat before drinking the bottle.. otherwise you'll have a nice trip shitting and vomiting while totaly disasociated in your bathroom. Still an interesting experience tho
I'm a happy, high-functioning dude and yet, every day without fail I get on. Maybe I smoke some weed before lab, maybe I have a scotch before dinner, maybe i smoke some meth before sex, maybe i drop some acid and watch movies, maybe I snort some heroin and listen to music.
Every day of my life. Don't even know why I do it.
So in October i smoked weed for the first time, and last night i bumped coke and xan. I plan to do MDMA, acid, and shrooms as well. It all kinda makes me nervous, I dont want to fall into a hole with any of this stuff, but its so fun.
>>724037911 Yeah bud. I've been to the k hole and it's not usually a fun time. Drugs are bad in general but atleast I enjoyed some of them. Ketamine is not my preferred high. It's somewhere along the lines of being drunk on vodka and robo tripping at the same time..I've snorted smoked and shot this stuff. I knew a guy who od'd on it too. He lived but I heard some strange things about that fella .
>>724044541 As a long time drug addict >Dont abuse MDMA, consequences are dire >Psychedelics are god tier, but stick to the classics because we know they have a reasonable safety profile >Xanax is for fucking deadshits
>>724044541 don't be nervous, you're on a good path. Drugs are fun. Everybody who denys himself the pleasure of all the great substances out there is stupid. There's bliss ahead. So if you like it, keep it up. You may fall in a hole eventually but why worry now? sober people stumble into holes all the time. And they didn't even have fun
>>724038513 my first ket experience I had 400mg and it was one of my least favourite experiences, if you like to feel completely fucked up then go for it I did it in my room not expecting to lose my eyes and ears but yeah I went completely numb I remember listening to music and it slowly got to a point where I couldn't hear it. When people say its a psychedelic substance in my opinion it hardly is, the only psychedelic thing about it is the comedown you get the sort of visuals you get when you are about to fall asleep. The shit fucks up your bladder too, I woke up the next morning pissed the bed
>>724045539 >psychedelic. Dissociatives and Psychedelics are very different even though both cause a trip. While taking LSD, shrooms etc you stay conscious. A dissociative trip happens while you're unconscious, in a dreamlike state. A lot of people don't get that. As you said, during the comedown you experience the return from the unconscious state to the conscious state which you may experience as trippy. Dissotrips are quite intense. Unfortunately they are hard to grasp and hard to really remember. Like a dream.
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