I have been addicted to opiates for about 2 years now, taking

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These cure addiction

It only helps with sleep for me, which is a major part of opiate withdrawal. Almost 2 weeks clean off all of them. Being dopesick is fucking hell, it's like having the worst flu you ever had. And whats fucked is that's not even the hardest part, once you feel better you'll want to do them again. I'd stop fucking with painkillers man, they'll ruin your life.

Taper down method worked for me till cold turkey, and I was a three a day 10 mg perc habit. You have to go through the pain, it is like a reminder that you will never go back. cut your doses in half for the day , do it for week , then go half of that for a week. Keep repeating to gradually get that poison out, not going to be easy. Fuck rehab , prove to yourself, if you really want to and your sick and tired of being sick and tired . Good luck

Look into something called suboxone

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Go to rehab. Move to a new state.
Get clean and go into the army. Forced sobriety + income with great benefits.

I know the struggle OP, 3 years here, 100 dollars of heroin every 2 days.

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don't

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Something to remember is....
While the withdrawls hurt..so much..the bright side is that you are healing.

You can do it OP. Force yourself into a sober spot. Ask a trustworthy friend/relative to monitor you and support you for a few weeks so that you can get clean. Be honest with them and they may help you.

If my neice or nephew came to me asking that of me, I wouldnt think twice about helping them.

>>723821989
Girlfriend's dad had multiple myeloma for 1.5 years and recently passed. I had direct access to dilaudid, morphine, perocet and ativan. After 8 months of taking one of more of the previously mentioned drugs 3-5 times daily, I had a buddy who had wanted me to try DMT for the first time ever and he was the friend that I had first taken LSD with so I gave it a try. Put on classical music and took the biggest hit out of a bowl he covered in deemer. I witnessed my own birth and my mother came to me in this psychedelic experience explaining to me that it is okay to make mistakes in life and it's okay to learn the hard way (how i usually learned despite my fam's efforts) the sun was shining on my face and I felt like all the guilt I harbored deep down for knowing I was an addict was lifted and a new light was cast upon the shadowy place filled with I called life. Food for thought I guess. I don't tell the story often but just know that you can make it through anything. By the end I was going through a script of something every week. each weak I had to get a front and hustle so I could make even and buy a stash for myself. Sickens me now to think I ever let myself live like that.

>>723821989

look into kratom?

>>723824511
Also I had to move out of my girlfriend's house because of the direct access to the drugs so environment plays a significant factor in staying clean

>>723824629
Never been a fan of herbs and other natural supplements, especially if it tastes like shit and costs a lot. Is it any good?

>>723825080

I'd say it's definitely further down the line than just an "herbal supplement". More like a mild drug. But it's widely known as something that people use to help kick painkiller habits, it works on the same part of the brain or something like that. And it seems quite cheap, I got 100g from a dealer off reddit for like 12 bucks, typical moderate dose is 4-5g. Though I've heard of people taking a lot more, especially if they're kicking something harder.
Iunno. I'm not super experienced with it, and I've never taken any painkillers, but it might be something worth looking into. Not everyone reacts the same way, but there are a LOT of success stories. Hell, it was banned in Thailand because it undercut the nationalized opiate industry.

>>723825481
What's the buzz like? The only vendors I've seen charge $40/bag not even including shipping, it just doesn't seem worth it.

>>723825080
Lol you dont want help.
Tasting an herb for 3 seconds a day is more important than getting off opiates? It works for thousands of people but youd rather not try it bc "i dont like herbs."

Have fun being addicted until you actually want help.

>>723825652
You can get a kilo for ~100$. Its exponentially cheaper than opiates per dose.

>>723824629
>look into kratom?
how do i get kratom?

>>723825760
I'm not OP

>>723825821
The internet.

R/kratom

It can help, but there are other medications you should be on as well to counter all the other side effects of withdrawals.
Go to an addiction specialist doctor.
If you really want to get clean, Ive heard that most people relapse on a subprime taper. But it will counter almost all side effects and can be successful.

Source: was just in rehab with a bunch of opiate addicts. I was not an opiate addict myself however.

>>723825835
Oh ok. Still though. Its crazy how many junkies say shit like that. But if youre not one of them disregard my statement.

>>723821989
Stop. Right now. Youre already fucked, stop while you can still turn things around.. not memeing.

>>723826019
>R/kratom
I feel so weak. I cant go more than 3-4 hours after taking one til i feind for another dosage. Is this getting to a point of a deadly addiction? Is Kratom easily obtainable? Also what dosage would I need to start out with?

>>723821989
rohypnol here been years tried to quit, by just drinking beer fuck no it fucked up my stomach even made me shit blood, not to mention waking up in the morning feeling like youre going insane with puking and diahrrea, lots and lots of puking for just skipping one day.
so anyway try to lower the dosage a little bit maybe you can still make it, also gabapentin has side effects I believe withdrawling too so then you will be addicted to that too.
Like me with alcohol best of luck

>>723826302
Theres no way around opiate addiction. You can taper but getting sick isnt even the hard part dude, thats why you should stop

It is nice to see nice people here sometimes...

OP Here, thank you guys for the support. I appreciate the community that has supportive people.

>>723821989
>I was told that gabapentin could help get off opiates.

I've heard it's effective. Be careful with that shit though. I took a bunch of xanax and got blackout drunk a few months ago. I had some Gabapentin that someone had given me to try too, but I wasn't planning on taking it. Sometime after I blacked out I did--1800mg. I ended up drinking a 5th of Dewars, popping 5mg of xanax, taking the Gabapentin, and apparently trying to snort benadryl because I found them crushed up and cut out into lines on my desk the next day. I also pretty much destroyed my house, and cut the shit out of my fists punching mirrors and picture frames. My friend and his wife were here and managed to keep me from getting myself killed or arrested--he said I kept trying to go next door and pick a fight with my neighbors, and he had all my guns hidden because apparently I got them out and started playing with them. I can't remember a thing about the night. I feel really shitty what I put them through though. Just looking at the wreckage the next morning--and they cleaned a lot of it up before I woke up too--it looked like I had gone fucking apeshit.

>>723821989
Nineteen months off heroin here. I tried everything to help me quit. Most things made it worse. It took cold turkey alot of failure and time. The final step was the biggest. I didn't think of anyone I was leaving. Kept contact with family and clean friends and moved 800 km away. New life with new choices. I am doing better now than I ever have

Treatment bro. Really helps. I was addicted to heroin and meth for seven years now been without heroin for ten months. It's possible but very difficult.

>>723821989
Worst thing is the diarrhea and sleepless nights when your bones are aching like hell. Otherwise it's pretty much nothing :D

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>>723823228

>and I was a three a day 10 mg perc habit.

that's not much of a habit anon. Many addicts are on 10x that much and more before they switch to heroin or other stronger opiates. I'm not saying you don't have a problem but give me a break.

>>723827866
Be proud of yourself. You are doing something amazing. Never forget that

>>723827946
It will still give withdrawals. You can't go anywhere when you are shitting your pants every 30 minutes and can't get sleep etc.

>>723825080
It's good as long as you buy from a reliable source, and not the gas station or a head shop. It does taste like shit, but it reminds me of a halfway decent hydrocodone buzz. It is addictive too, so there is that. It's not remotely as bad as trying to come off of opiates though, and if you have a high opiate tolerance, you probably won't feel much of a high anyway.

Smoke weed

>>723826302
Yes, go to r/kratom, find a seller. Buy some red bali, take 6-8g and enjoy

>>723827034
Funny thing is that it always seems to be the drug threads where you find civil, and nice conversation here.

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7 months clean and sober. Former vicious IV heroin user alcoholic. Rehab and work a 12 step program. If you can't do either of those you're probably gonna hit a bottom you haven't yet. I was in rehab 7 times before anything stuck.

The good news is you can be clean and sober while still being all fucked up on the inside and secretly browsing 4chun

>>723828055
>>723828055

30 mg of oxy a day habit is the furry version of an opiate habit. I'm glad you're off dope now anon, but you might want to keep your war story to yourself. It does not qualify.

>>723823228
Holy shit I'm twice that right now, with 20mg/day prescribed on top. I'm really fucked...

>>723827971
Thanks bro means alot

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old fag here..
I buy 80 10mg oxys from a friend monthly. Started out lasting all month--now they are gone in about 2 weeks. I'm out now and feel like shit...more on Friday hopefully..
the rest of you...stay the fuck away from oxy

>>723821989
Want to get off of it? Purposely put yourself thru DT's and withdrawls until in your writhing agony you can see just what this fucking is: madness. Don't do shit for 3 days except lay in bed in a pool of your own coldsweat, then, as your physical withdrawls stop, do a pill. Then dont do shit for 3 days, then do a pill. Repeat. Until your mind can understand it is a mental addiction, not just a physical one, and that the whole thing is madness (with there being more to life than 'wake up, get pill, get money, get pill, get money, go to sleep'), you will not be able to quit.

If your local county health dept has a 3-5day detox program, that can give you an edge in trying to quit. But do it only after you do the steps mentioned above as the final 'leg' in this race. Also, chuck your phone, and under NO circumstances, have ANY contact any of your drugbuddies. See one in the street, either ignore then, or tell them to fuck off or that ur sorry but you cannot talk to them anymore and respectfully wish they would not contact you anymore.

There is no 'slowing down' or only a pill every other day bullshit. You have to quit cold turkey.

Its a mindset you have to break yourself of. As you lay in bed unable to sleep, try to wrap your head around the 'Why'.
Why do I keep doing this to myself?
Why do I keep going back to this same shit?
Why do I think this shit is worth all this suffering? And is it.....really?
You have to train your sub-conscience: Repeat to yourself "I will -never- do drugs again". Repeat it to yourself soons your eyes wake, repeat it to yourself when you wake up in the middle of the night, repeat it before you go to sleep. Even replace counting sheep with "I will NOT do drugs again." Any time you get a craving, or you see anything that sparks a memory of your 'glory days' (druggy days), repeat it to yourself. Asking a higher power for assistance tends to help as well: 'Jesus have mercy upon me and give me strength'.

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>>723829108


please don't tell us you're paying $800 a month for them

I've been an opee addict for 27 years I'm now 49yrs old, I work in construction where the demands of the job are very physical. I'm the fittest 40 something on the construction site by a long straw. The reason I'm the fittest is I never ever go over the limit I set myself all those years ago that's not the biggest reason though. My diet is very good organic fruit and veg every day and plenty of fish. I also stopped drinking alcohol which is a really hard thing to do in the N/E of England believe me when I say everyone is a heavy drinker from the age of 13. Gabbapentin are fucking lethal keep off that poison. If you take opiates Try and stick with the ones derived from opium not synthetic shit. You can live a full very enjoyable life if you take a sensible approach. This way you've got no cold Turkey but worst of all are the cravings to go back on opee's after going through all that shit to get off them. Kratom is good shit and psychedelics are really good at limiting opee addiction. I'm spectrometry a lot of personal experience. For fucks sake keep off cocaine.

>>723828316
..damn if you can get of the shit, that gives my habit hope....tx

>>723829310
...nope
6

That's what you get faggot for doing it in the first place. Reminder, there is NO reason to even start taking these kinds of drugs, don't give me the gay "i wanted to try it lol" you knew what you were getting into and putting in your body. OP kill yourself you're a degenerate and you know it, you contribute nothing but killing your own body. There's dying kids out there that would love to have your pre-addiction body but no you're throwing it away.

Hardest thing is the first week (after DT's clear up) and not doing anything (aka sitting around 'bored' with nothing to take your mind off pills).

And I'm telling ya, you are 99.9999% likely to relapse if you keep in contact or engage in contact with any of your old drugbuddies. After you are good and clean, if a Doc ever prescribes you any opiate, you have to have the strength to tell him to prescribe you something else like tramadol instead, because even if its some 3.25/1000 hydros for a root canal or broken bones..... don't listen to that nonsense saying 'you'll be fine, its just a mild PK, not heroin/oxy/etc' - you are going to relapse quicker than the backspash off a turd.

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>>723829509


ouch but still a pretty good price. Please don't switch to heroin or street pills. Way too much fent and a very easy way to od

>>723829224
Real talk, that's how I did it also, even when off, I went through like 2 years of still feeling shit in my legs and. Do not even think of those mother fuckers anymore. Edibles and trees I do partake in

>>723829322
I feel you. I'm a machinist. I didn't actually start doing drugs because of work. I started because I'd lost my fiance, and then watched my mom die of cancer a short time later. Over time I've worked through the depression, but I've gotten to where I feel like I need some sort of edge to get me through the day.

>>723829842
>I went through like 2 years of still feeling shit in my legs and
explain, what kinda shit in your legs?

>>723821989
fight the addiction with another addiction.
get world of warcraft, lock yourself in and play until your clean

>>723829790
no worries there, anon. I'm 56. I'll whine about being out of pills, but will never fuck with H

Been stuck at the same job for 30+years...a couple of 10's get me through the day and fight boredom... it's very stupid, but trying to coast to retirement and not work 6 ten hour days...

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>>723829355
In the depths of winter I found within me an invincible summer.

There's always hope.

>>723830146
Constantly shaking leg back and forth when I layed down, and tingling also. I took it as it was that deep in my bones, and my legs were still going through withdrawal .

>>723829954
What originally got me on opiates was a bad knee injury that was wrongly treat when I was a teenager. I was a very promising sportsman and was looking to become a professional in one of 3 different sports. I also had a career as a decathlon athlete if none of the 3 sports I was looking to become a proffesional in didn't materialise. Well the knee injury was very severe and it caught up with me. Ended up having 4 unsuccessful ops during my 20's. Cold weather gives me a lot of pain. The worst is I didn't realise but since first doing my knee I've walked with a limp, carrying my weight mainly on the other leg. Its lead to a prolapsed disc in my back. This has lead to an unbelievably painful shoulder problem. I still don't take more pain killers than the limit I set myself. I'm actually in fucking agony now. Im due some opiates though so I won't be suffering much longer and ilk be good to go in the morning.

>>723821989
was on opioids for 15 years, countless detox/rehabs. Forget gabapentin. Pregabalin helps a little bit, in the way that benzos help: Not really. It releaves a bit the acheing bones.

Anyhow: Go to rehab, taper off opioids with methadone, maybe some buprenorphine afterwards.
Classic way, but anything else is bs. You wont do it at home and every little helper you find has its downsides. Usually they're more withdrals or your inhibition threshold gets lowered to the point where you don't care about your detox (benzos, alcohol).
You might try it at home, but you will do it over and over again because you are not part of the (lets say) 0.1% who can actually pull it off and stay clean. Been there, was the master of withdrawl, but never got to 0. Never got clean. And I tried a lot of ways.
I know it sounds cliché because it is.

be sure you want to get clean, then get help or just don't bother. Withdrawl is really bad for your body. No reason to do it in vain.

Kicked all drugs for good last year. Totally recommend it (except if you're young. Young ppl who don't take drugs are weird fucks)

>>723823481
why

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>>723829719
> tell doc to give me a non-opioid pain reliever like tramadol

>>723831047
/clap


Thats how I did it. This man knows what's up!

>>723829549
Bit of a boring cunt you aren't you.nevwr done anything wrong apart from look at little boys in a funny way. What the fuck is a Mr clean don't do any drugs doing on /b/ to enjoy the site properly you have to be at least a 50% misfit

>>723821989
Ibogaine worked for me. Took it two years ago and never looked back.

>>723821989
Subutex. Simple.

>>723831496
Hahaha that's what I was thinking I take trams when I haven't got dehydracodiene

>>723830403
I usually do Adderall and either kratom or hydros to get me through the day. The thing is, I like my job and I don't see myself ever retiring by choice. I was unemployed for a while before I got this job. I hated that shit. I just felt so useless and it was fucking boring.

>>723823653
withdrawals are nothing mate..

I tried to quit opiates MILION FUCKING times..

went through wd so many times - wishing to quit .. but ALWAYS fucked up after they finished.. I just could not stop thinking about using.

atm - been clean for 6 days..

right know 7th day is when my thoughts go nuts the most

well ...will see what happens tomorrow

(been using opiates for 7 years)

>>723832930
what is your choice of "meds"?

>>723832930
true, the hard part comes afterwards. Its not about staying clean. You can't build a life on the premise to deny ys sth.
Getting the stuff out of your system is the first step and its not easy. But it is even harder to stay clean if you are, lets say 6 month sober and nothing in your life has changed.

Its not enough to avoid old friends. As a true addict, you have to start from scratch. New town, job that you like, new contacts. You need to experience, that the alternative to getting high, might be worth it. Otherwise its just agony and depresseion -> relapse.

Here in ger we have thes programs called adaption. After detox and rehab you find one of those in your city of choice and they help you find a job, a flat and to find out what you enjoy recreationally.

4 therapies failed bc I went back to my old city. After the fifth I moved somewhere else, found a job etc. Works great so far, concept did it for me.

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>>723821989
I'm a roxy over myself but ive been off of opiates for about 4 years. no clean way out ereally but cold turkey. shit wastes your fucking momney like no other and super hard to get ovr the addiction. I was a heroin addict for like 4 years but the way you go is once an addict always an addict. about 4 years clean now, I still smoke mah wheed