Why are trump supporters so afraid of facts and logic?

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>>723804340
Liberals/democrats are the ones that are afraid of facts and logic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPtNON6sHXw&t=3s

>>723804504
If the studies are banned then they're probably shit studies. Possibly made up by racist whites, but...there's no way they would do that is there?

>>723804340
Because facts and logic often persuade policy to go in a direction that is unwanted.

>>723804504
FAKENEWS
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>>723804504
>infowars

fake news

>>723804340
why are you still crying?

>>723804504
Did you read that somewhere once anon?

>>723804608
sure kid.

>>723804924
>Also: Fox News

>>723804340
why are Hillary supporters so stupid ans retarded?
>evidence against her made public by leaks
>several suspicious deaths of guys that were going to expose her fully
>was going to make war against Russia aka ww3
trump is an idiot but he seems like the lesser evil and no im not one of their supporters im not even in the fucking USA lmao im Mexican and live in mexico

>i can speak spanish if you faggots dont believe me

>>723804953
Democrats keep crying longer than Republicans after losing an election because, eventually, Republicans have to go back to work.

>>723804340

because they're a bunch of cucks

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>>723804967
The last time there was an official report breaking down crime statistics by immigrant status and origin was in 2005, for the years 1997 to 2001. These statistics confirmed that immigrants were significantly overrepresented amongst offenders, in particular in committing violent crimes. The foreign born were four times more likely to be suspects in homicide cases than those with Swedish origin, and 4.5 times more likely to be suspects in rape cases. Since then, Swedish criminologists and politicians have made sure that no new statistics have been released

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445237/sweden-crime-rates-statistics-immigration-trump-fox-news

>>723804504
Why does it say
North Africa & Africa
Why not just Africa? North Africa is a part of Africa right?

>>723805048
Is that why Trump was crying about Obama winning for 8 years?

>>723804504
Liberals ONLY subscribe to facts and logic. Anyone who doesn't is simply not liberal.

Trumpies run on pure emotion, either anger or more often, schadenfreude.

>>723805135
Mind = blown

>>723804887

That's not even fake news, it's just a plain old fabrication.

Fox News even interviewed a guy they brought on to pretended to be the "Swedish National Security Advisor" (no such job, no such person). This doesn't even deserve "news" in the title.

>>723805027

shut the fuck up beaner

>>723805195
>schadenfreude
It's really no wonder at all that conservative edgespam was able to take root on 4chan.

>>723805135
Because Africa is a very large continent. It's similar to saying North America and South America. They are different enough that you shouldn't lump them together when making arguments based on statistics and geography

>>723805135
>North Africa & Africa
North Africa are brown (Arabs)
Africa are black

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>>723805057
i was i was as retard as you

>>723804340
Because the facts have a liberal bias.

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>>723805195
>Liberals ONLY subscribe to facts and logic.

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>>723805027
Sure is Russia in here. Have the pasta we made for you.

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, archaic, and weird. This is then followed by crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me masturbate again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering by a foreign entinty targeting us via social media.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal nutcases that endorse the murder or generalized and targeted hate of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb faggots. We aren't and we won't.

>>723805195
See, this is why I no longer consider myself liberal. Do you honestly believe that? Have you ever tried to reason or debate with a liberal, even if you yourself are a liberal?

Get out of your echochamber and listen to some other points of view, and you'll find very quickly that liberals are guilty of everything they claim the other side to be.

>>723805423
nice pasta upvoted

>>723805290
>conservative edgespam was able to take root

That, and broadband finally reaching more suburban and rural areas.

>>723805135
if you would live in Europe (like me) you would know there is a difference between North African and Africans

>>723805337
North America and South America is two different continents and it makes sense to split them up.

This is more like saying there are a lot of Americans in North North America and North America.

>>723805413
To be perfectly honest, hardcore Shillary supporters aren't liberal. They're corporate conservatives that just want more of the same shit in blue rather than red.

>>723805413
Correct. We tune out the nonsense, and listen to fact.

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>>723805423
>as an actual American

Nice try, Ruskie shill.

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>>723805233
Nice! You constructed your own truth like the liberal retard you are. The ''guy'' didn't not choose the label himself. He calls himself ''independent analyst''.

And what the fuck does fox news has to do with Paul Joseph Watson?

>>723805452
Then they're not liberals. As I said. Try to pay attention.

Why can't liberals just stop crying around already?
>b-but trump said this
>b-but trump said that
>b-but trump did this
>b-but trump did that
Settle in libtard criers, he's here for four years and none of your crying,protesting etc.. is gonna change that.

If you support Hillary, you support pedophilia, mass corruption and socialism. Socialism that turn countries into North Korea. fact and logic your way out of that one slave.

>>723805452
>listen to some other points of view

The only two points of view out there seem to be "liberal" and "I hate liberals".

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>>723804340
The left is far worse. They rely on controlling the narrative, baseless accusations of racism, and cherrypicking, warping, denying and sometimes flat out suppressing the public's knowledge of crime and immigration statistics.

The latest Sweden debacle is a perfect example. They knew what trump meant when he said look at what's going on in Sweden. Yet he misspoke and they jumped on the opportunity to take control of the narrative. Now, we cannot actually know the rape and violent crime statistics of that country, because after 1996, the Swedish government STOPPED COLLECTING DATA ON THE RACE, RELIGION AND IMMIGRANT STATUS on of their crime. This is because the immigrants were committing these acts 5.5x higher than native Swedes! Do you think it's gotten any better since they took in the 1/2 million more in 2012? this is just one of countless examples.

>>723805622
kek, did you even read it comrade

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>>723805423
upvoted

>>723805718
i think you mean communism

>>723805747
fuck off russia

Because the most committed among them, that is the ones among every small group of true believers look to..... they have decided that this is a war for identity and they will not accept sharing the same fate as non-white people.

So this battle is not about right and wrong, it is about us or them.

Once you accept this, it makes a whole lot more sense.

It also means bitching about fake news or ignorance of the facts willful or not is a waste of time. It is time to resist and prepare for those instances where the tools of democracy are insufficient for the cause of democracy.

Because all extremists and ideologues are afraid of them, be they left or right politically.

Actual logical debate is dead. Goodnight human race.

>>723805718
Pedophilia is one of the final redpills.

>>723805747
I would like to add another example perhaps a bit closer to home. Did you know up until a couple years ago white Americans were being lumped in with Mexicans when reporting crime statistics? Now why on earth would the people fighting so hard to let in waves of Hispanics want to repress this information from you?

>>723805747
Blaming others for using tactics which they actually do not use but which you yourself use is the Hallmark of Criminal Minds.

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Correlation is not causation.

>>723805682
This isn't an argument. You give liberals a bad name. It's like the women calling for men to be murdered "aren't real feminists". Ok, but they call themselves feminists and no "real" feminists are publicly attempting to stop them. Or a black person calling for white genocide can never be racist. This is a current liberal belief. Are they not real liberals too?

>>723805747
not our fault your so called leader who is a self proclaimed genius cannot use more than two syllable words to in his speeches.

for someone who is so smart, he sure misspeaks a lot

>>723805742
Then you aren't trying very hard. In fact, there are more than 2 points of view for every single issue, and someone can hold an opinion on one thing without being grouped together with some binary left right group.

Go read

>>723805718
If you support Trump, you support rape, pedophilia, racism, assault, and Putin.

>>723805747

>D-d-don't pay attention to what my lord god jesus and lover the great pumpkin says or does, pay attention to what I pretend he says and does.
>Here! Have some alternate facts and a fake chart from my friends editing Wikipedia.

The actual peak of those of those attacks was during a gang war before the flood of arab immigrants. You want to know what races made up those two gangs?

Slavs, just like you Vladmir.

>>723805742
>The only two points of view out there seem to be my opinion and RACIST BIGOT XENOPHOBIC NAZIS

fixed it for you

>>723806042
Those are just faggots who think they're better then everyone else for being centrist, or even worse, making up other retarded terms to describe themselves.

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>>723805817
I'm American.

>>723805696
because they're a bunch of cucks

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>>723804340
>so afraid of facts and logic
That's liberals in a nutshell

>>723805774
Indeed I have my good comrade, however it is well known that the aforementioned right wing media outlets are heavily supported by the Kremlin

>>723805423
>but your english sucks

Yes, because no English speaker would ever butcher the language. Wonderful logic you fucking knuckle-dragging tinfoil idiot.

>>723804887

>fake news

More commonly just called news.

>>723806265
Isn't that cartoon missing a few Presidents?

>>723806303
torture is a bad way to get out information from somebody

>>723806376
Just the ones that didn't alter it from the previous president

>>723806255
in your dream lefty, moslems are peacful as long as they are a minority

>>723806330
>calm down ivan

You mean
>someone read it for me, after it was translated
>doesn't matter though because they force us to copy paste the same resource material over and over again, then use insults like cuck

I'm glad you guys have jobs now and aren't standing in fucking bread lines anymore.

>>723805195

This is the funniest fucking thing I have read in a long, long time.

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>>723806255
FTFY

>>723806360
ok comrade. your big furry gay ass looking hat is showing.

>>723804340
Trump supporters are afraid of facts and logic because they don't see themselves as the niggers of the rich, they associate themselves as rich people who haven't made their fortunes yet. They just live in a total state of denial. And Republicans want to keep them that way. Too stupid to see the only enemy they have is the rich person accumulating wealth through exploitation of everyone else's hard work and theft.

Why would Republicans ever push for educating the masses? Republicans want to keep Americans too dumb to realize they are being robbed and kept ignorant. It's easier to get them all fired up about niggers, mexicans, and lib tards.

>>723805925
You're an idiot. I clearly provided you with a thorough example of how they use their tactics.

>>723806032
He does need to be more clear I definitely agree.

>>723806113
>le Russians it's all their fault whaaaaah!
Not that I believe you in the first place, but you conveniently left out explaining the up spike in gang rape you pompous faggot.

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>>723806520

So much Trump hate...last time I checked he reduced the deficit by 12 billion in his first month, obummer raised it by almost 200 billion in the same amount of time. Also where were your liberal tears when obummer was drone striking schools,hospitals,weddings and even some poor guy and his friend just because he was 6'5" like Osama was?

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>>723806549
No they don't you retard

>>723806610
As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, archaic, and weird. This is then followed by crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me masturbate again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering by a foreign entinty targeting us via social media.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal nutcases that endorse the murder or generalized and targeted hate of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb faggots. We aren't and we won't.

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>>723806632
>muh religion of peace

>>723806610

last time i checked obama also spent 90 million on vacations in 8 years and republicans freaked the fuck out

trump spent 12 million within his FIRST MONTH

where are the republican tears for trump's grossly inflated expenditures

>>723806714
None of those graphs are legible

>>723806475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

>>723806523
Silly Slav, what exactly do you think is happening when you consider Breitbart and RT to be factual news sources?

>>723806564
>Not that I believe you in the first place, but you conveniently left out explaining the up spike in gang rape you pompous faggot.

The rape rate in Sweden spiked in 2014 and dropped in late 2015 and 2016 after the flood of Arab migrants. You are utterly disconnected from reality, I have to assume you aren't mentally retarded, you seem to be able to type at the very least. Thus I assume you are being paid to act this incredibly stupid.

Your existence cheapens our species Vladmir, please do the proper Slavic thing and drink yourself to death as soon as possible.

>>723806592
Nice troll. President Peanut destroyed this country.

Sweden's grenade incidents are the result of warfare between two native mafia factions. They are part of a property protection racket, have only killed one person, and have nothing to do with immigrants.

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>>723804340
OP Take Your Shit To /pol/

>>723806862
kek

>>723806794
>these sourced graphs don't fit my narrative so they are fake
+20 shekels

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>>723806549

Wait are you arguing for Sharia Law?

>>723806683
Tl;dr, I did notice in my skim of it though that you sure like the word "archaic" now quit trying to make yourself sound smart and follow along with what's being said...oh, and learn what "sum it up" means.

>>723806610
>12 billion
it changes that much up and down each day
and if anything it would be because of obama, because you know trump hasnt done a fucking thing with regard to the budget

>>723806683
Way to try to control the narrative faggot.

Anyone who tries to tell you what /b/ is or what it stands for should immediately questioned. /b/ has always and forever will be about one thing and that is the lulz. It doesn't matter if that betrays the left's or right's dogma, we simply do not care.

>>723804340
We have this same thread everyday, stop posting the same shit daily, and be original

>>723806979

Ребята они знают, что это мы.

>>723806935
Did i say that you retard? I said they aren't fucking legible

Do you not know English you retard?

There are too many jpeg artifacts so most of the text is too fuzzy to read

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>>723806686
It will save at least $100B spend on illegals.

>>723806827
America is becoming a factory that makes uneducated white men. American women pay the bills because "American Man" is an oxymoron.

>>723807028
Trump is going to spend a trillion tax dollars on menial make-work assignments for uneducated white men to MAGA.

They hate socialism though.

>>723807042
Thanks for reading it.

>Ivan.

>>723806714
>Russia Today

Fucking slav Neanderthal, are you even trying?

>>723804340
i still support trump. mainly because i just want to see minorities, bitchy women, and freaks get put in their fucking place.

Democracy was a mistake, pity isn't a virtue.

>>723807053
>hue hue I can trick the newfags into thinking there really are Russians infiltrants among us by copying and pasting a string of text in their backwards ass language

>>723807175
>I voted trump because im not old to understand politics and i thought it would be funny

sounds about right

>>723804430
>implying Trump is not a prize goyim

>>723807175
Calm down comrade


Ребята они знают, что это мы.

>>723807068
Have you even looked at that original source?

It literally is a third graders approach at understanding economics

You should look at what happened in Georgia when they outlawed undocumented immigrants from working on Georgia farms (hint: the crops all rotted in the fields and the state lost billions that year. They are still recovering from that stupidity)

>>723807195
Thanks for the input
Artyom

>>723805341
But that's racist

Когда путин платить нам

>>723806741
12 million on vacation vs 12 billion deficit reduction...

8 million on vacations vs 200 billion increase in deficit...

Yeah...need a calculator to figure that one out there chief?

>>723807068

how do illegal immigrants receive those benefits without proper documentation?

>>723807195
How's the weather in Siberia today? Are you going to be standing in the bread line later with your pals?

>>723804340
the wealthy should be respected for their status. Even if they're just heirs. They come from a bloodline that has proven its value to society. The underclasses were important during the advent of industrialization, but now they are no longer needed. However, we can thin them out by inciting divisiveness that leads to civil wars.

>>723807357
stop fucking with superior russians, you snivling little cuck.

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>>723805233
You can't lie away the truth about the swedish rapeugee problem. The riots last week made that clear

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>>723807291
>racist

>>723807335

i guess you don't understand the definition of hypocrisy. why am i not surprised.

>>723807175

You mean you want women, fags, and Asians to rule you? Because they outperform your uneducated, white, male asses in every single economic, social, and demographic statistic.

You are nothing, you are a failure, now sit down in the corner and wait for your welfare cheques with the spics and niggers you emulate so well.

>>723807361
t. gold digger

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>>723807335
You do realize all of trumps plans add to the deficit right?

>>723807352
they don't. They can't. I tried pointing this out the other day to these comrade shitstains. Was promptly told I was a cuck, was screamed at for source etc etc.

You gotta have an ID. No, a fake ID doesn't work cause you have to be in the system. They don't know any of this because it's a bunch of shitstain russians copy pasting the same shit resources and insults over and over again.

>>723807411
ALL HAIL TRUMP!
ALL HAIL PEPE!

SAY IT WITH ME BROTHERS!

>>723807402
take a vodka break Igor, youre getting mad.


Ребята они знают, что это мы.

Marxists are showing their rage. These threads show that they haven't gotten over and never will get over their massive loss. Your ideology has lost

I would like to add, propaganda and the control of information is intimately tied to the left. Research the Frankfurt school, look up Soviet tactics, always question for yourself and ask yourself what motives the person giving you information has (regardless of their political affiliation).

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>>723807352
Because of liberals in government, illegals can get a lot of benefits without proper documentation.

>>723807460
gold diggers are just resourceful women who have figured out that by making themselves sexually appealing to higher class men, they can advance socially. fair game,

>>723807596
No they can't you retard

Ssn is required for all benefits

>>723807560
your comrade is repulsive. squat more.

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>>723806896
>I have no argument so I'll spam memes
+1 shekels shabbos goy
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>>723807540
heres hoping youve got proxies, faggot

>>723807508
Bullshit. I have heard advertisements encouraging "undocumented immigrants" to sign up for SNAP (food stamps).

>>723805918
Yea, cause George Zimmerman was latino right?

You're an idiot

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>>723807698
>barely speaks english
>mashing keys, copy pasting ridiculous insults

How many rubles do you make an hour comrade

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>>723807508
>they don't.
Of course they can. else they will not stay in American illegally.

>>723807743

weird, anyone i have ever known that has signed up for government assistance had to show like 3 forms of identification as well as proof of ownership of a bank account...

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>>723807802
Did you not even read your fucking list?

Those are all charities or state funds you retard

>>723807676
Wrong

https://www.google.com/amp/www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-uncovers-usda-records-sponsoring-u-s-food-stamp-program-for-illegal-aliens/amp/

>>723804608
If you're not a racist you're not paying attention. Look at the crime stats from Sweden.

>>723806032
>not our fault your so called leader who is a self proclaimed genius cannot use more than two syllable words to in his speeches.

>for someone who is so smart, he sure misspeaks a lot

Kinda like Kanye

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>>723807560
This well of tears shows no signs of drying up

Childish liberals raging, media legit making shit up, it's beautiful

>>723807870
Congratulations, you found one of the fake news outlets from the election cycle

>>723807459
someone who does not support fascist religions must be a racist' logic

>>723805233
You lost the narrative on Sweden. Everyone from people living there to local police are proving the nigger migrants are literally burning down their cities.

>>723805472
>Edgespam

Aka exposing liberal lies

>>723807884

Kanye 2020 nigga!

>>723805135
Because North Africa isn't full of niggers. Even Muslims don't deserve to be lumped in with the "people" with the lowest IQ in the world.

IF trump is racist, why is there a picture of him eating a trump taco bowl in his trump tower?

>>723807749
What the fuck are you even talking about? They were being lumped in with whites, retard.
news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

>>723806592
>Jimmy Carter
>Real American

Pick one

>>723807880
That's exactly the made up Breitbart bullshit he was just talking about, retard.

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>>723805233
There are plenty of 1st hand account on youtube
that show how bad sweden has become!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk-ISywCbps

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Obama ran and won on a platform involving insurance for all, so no one would go bankrupt just for getting sick and you can get coverage even if you have a pre-existing condition. The ACa gets passed, barely, with some stipulations added to it by the GOP so appease them.

8 years go by, and these "middle America" voters are bitching about how Obamacare is too expensive and not affordable. It's the fucking Republicans that refused to vote on and work on the ACA to improve it. They just left it as is, letting the insurance companies jack up premiums and monthly costs.

So what happens? The voters blame Obama for "Obamacare" being too expensive. Somehow, they believe the GOP is going to give every one of those people enrolled in the ACA cheaper insurance? Or do they want an entire privatization of health insurance where companies look for any excuse NOT to cover you, because of some pre-existing condition. The whole thing is ass backwards logic.

These weirdos seriously think Obama's intention or screw up was making the insurance too expensive. Like as if he was fine with insurance companies being greedy assholes.

>>723806475
Yeah an actual crime, not "Russia" fake news

kek, fuck off comrade. they don't have ads or commercials for welfare you stupid cunt, kys.

You know how I know this? Cause I actually live IN america. I don't learn about it from the resource material my comrade overloads give me.

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>>723808112

>>723807517
yes i do...
hail stalin
hail mau tse-tung
hail mohammed
hail racist mass raping of children in rotherham
hail bombing and terror
hail honor killing for women and wrong sexual orientation

>>723807802
lol wtf is this shit?!

hahahahah, get some relevant material Ivan, take a vodka break.

>>723808215
How sad is it that you people will literally ignore any and all statistics if it infringes on your world view of "Brown people can never do wrong"?

>>723806917
>not knowing how export tariffs work

>>723807433
As if being a racist is a bad thing. I'm a proud racist.

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>>723808226
>"Obamacare" being too expensive
"Obamacare" is really getting very expensive for working Americans.

>>723806706
This happened under the previous 3 presidents, it was caused by nafta.

>>723807824
https://amac.us/illegal-immigration-cost-1/

And it's not just illegals that are a drain. The average LEGAL immigrant gets far more welfare on average than the average native citizen who uses it (probably because they shit out so many children)

http://cis.org/Cost-Welfare-Immigrant-Native-Households

>>723805718
I support pedophilia and socialism. But I hate Hillary. Who should I vote for next time?

>>723804504
they can still hire some white rapist

>>723804340
That's the problem. You cucks think you're factual and logical. What are people supposed to think when you back a person like Hillary?

Having said that, fuck Trump

>>723807958
>attacks the outlet instead of the content
Gtfo pleb

>>723808354
fake paper

>>723808354
No but that's white republicans faults. Why? Ugh, I don't have to explain it to you you shitlord.

>>723808328

Ребята они знают, что это мы.

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>>723806896
Yeah, drone strike and kill them instead..

>>723808440
No shit

>>723805048
We just listened to 8 years of conservative whining and fabrication of lies about Obama. It was so bad Obama himself latched on to the "Thanks Obama" meme. Stay revisionist conservatives.

>>723807508
Yes they do, they get free public education. There was a court case about that.

>>723807605
america has less residents then Berlin?

>>723808402
Not an argument faggot.

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>>723808226
>Like as if he was fine with insurance companies being greedy assholes.

That was exactly what happened and most conservatives knew it would which is why we were against it. I still bought health care stocks anyway just in case, which skyrocketed after the ACA passed, go figure

There's no such thing as a free lunch

>>723807749
Yeah he actually is.
But I don't understand the point since he was 100% justified.

>>723808481
Since when do lies = statistics?

And if you think Donald is a conservative you're an idiot. He is anti establishment and that is why he was elected.

>>723808377

the first link even states that illegal immigrants cannot receive social benefits like housing, medicare and education....rather it's their children, who were born on US soil who receives them.

so back to my original question. how are ILLEGAL immigrants receiving these government benefits without proper documentation?

>>723807958
>Judicial watching
Fake
OK pal

>>723808550
Free lunch? Healthcare should be a top priority. I'm not asking to sit on my ass and be given things. Work full time. Contribute to society. Pay taxes. What the hell do I get from my taxes? I run over God damn pot holes everyday driving to and from work, and we're gonna build a fucking wall instead?

>>723805572
Ooh google translate is so coool rofl xDDDD
Prekratit obvinyat prispak Rossiya dlya vashix problem

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>>723804340
Because modern life is an incredibly complex entanglement of nations, ideas, religions, and cultures that conflicts with their imagination and understanding of how the world is, has been, and should be. It's easier to reject facts and logic than it is to accept being wrong about something.

If someone is not willing to readily discover that they're wrong about something, they will never learn anything, and, unfortunately, the conversations that we need to have are thwarted by Trump shills on the internet who will contradict anything you say, regardless of how sound an argument, with a meme, cherry-picked statistics or sources, youtube videos, by attacking your credibility, by asserting that you're a paid shill on behalf of some liberal cause, or by logically unsound arguments (here are 50 reports of Muslim people committing crimes; therefore, being Muslim makes you more likely to commit crimes).

>>723807605
Because we all know alot of people cant be wrong about something.

>>723808350
That's what's called, "a bad thing".

>>723804608
The studies can be biased because they support whites. The ban on the other hand couldn't possibly be biased cus it supports immigrants.

>>723808712
People were never denied healthcare. Stop lying.

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>>723808712
How can you doubt the genious Drumpf ingenious plan?

Like, most americans don't even understand how health-care works. Don't expect them to understand something as basic as taxes or basic economics.

>why should I pay for ensurance I dont need and thus paying others treatments
>mfw

>>723808328
Brown people do wrong all the time. And Islam is fucking retarded. But the alleged rape epidemic in Europe is horseshit according to any reliable source.

>>723804340
Here in Mother Russia, we Putin supporters are not afraid of facts and logic because we have long ago suppressed them and now all we watch is alternative news with alternative facts.
Хайль Путлер!

>>723808676
I think you just elucidated an even larger problem: why the fuck are we ENCOURAGING them to have children if they are here illegally?

If they didn't breed like rabbits, would learn English, and continue to work hard, I don't think many people would have a problem with them. But It's pretty fucking frustrating when a lot of my friends, that are in their late 20s to early 30s, aren't buying houses or starting families because it's too expensive. Meanwhile every single time I go to wal mart or the grocery store I end up behind some Mexican who can't speak any English, with her 10 fucking kids buying a cart full of groceries with food stamps. It happens all the fucking time in my personal experience, and from the statistics I see everywhere. whites by far contribute the most and are among the least likely to accept government gib me dats.

>>723808858
Heresy. Islam is perfect. There ARE NO RAPES by BROWN PEOPLE. You know that. The only people who rape are white people, period. Unchecked immigration is good and if you disagree you are a bigot. Source: CNN.

>>723808743
When Muslims come a vast majority of rapes and murders in a country line Sweden then yes Muslims are theb problem.

It's the same reason why half of all murders in the US are committed by 7% of the population.

They left chooses ignore inconvenient facts.

>>723804340
Same reason that Trump opposers are ... Because the facts don't always support their views and they can't see that the world isn't black and white

>>723808823
That's like saying no one is being denied a Lamborghini. Of course not. Anyone can buy one. It's a free country. That's not discrimination. But most people can't afford it. And healthcare is more important than a Lamborghini.

You know, when your house catches fire, and the fire dept shows up, they don't send you a bill afterwards. Shit happens and sometimes it's beyond anyone's control.

>>723808870
>>723808450
A 12 year old who just found google translate.

>>723808858
No it's not. A majority of rapes are chief left committed by Muslims and blacks.

>>723808914
If you were actually racists, you wouldn't have gone to the schools you went to. You wouldn't watch the shows or movies you watch. You enjoy that shit despite of your racism. You just use it as an excuse for you having a shitty life.

>>723808712
Yes a free lunch. Millions of people are getting healthcare sitting on their ass, popping out children they can't afford. Also health care is a top priority because the ACA is and always was a failure

Also no one was dying in the streets. Before 'Obamacare' the local county hospital was (and still is) required to take people at the ER, regardless of whether the individual could afford it or not. Once you got a bill they rated you on a sliding scale based on income.

>The wall
>Potholes
We're not talking about that.

>>723809042
Yes, everyone knows that you are either PROHILLARY, PROCHOICE, PROIMMIGRATION, or you are a BIGOT XENOPHOBIC MYSOGINIST RACIST WHITE MALE. Can't these stupid inbred low class uneducated sister-fuckers understand that WE are the party of toleration and kindness for everyone?

>>723804340
Anyone else curious as to why Russia was made the scapegoat for all the Greatness being made in America again?

Seriously though, why is it that Russia, 20 years after the cold war, is on our shit list again?

Because it's the only white European nation that we could acceptably demonize, due to the narrative. The american left accusing a non-white nation of something immoral and possibly detrimental to our nations infrastructure? That will never happen.

Why not France?
Because up until the last few years, France has been the poster boy nation for the progessive liberals. And I say "up until recently" because they are cracking down on islam, considering Fraxit, and also wanting to break ties with the world bank. These are facts, and because of these facts, in the next few years you'll hear the media start talking A LOT of shit on France.

So why not Germany?
Angela Merkel is essentially Hillary Clinton Beta. No way they'd through Germany under the bus. Shining beacon of globalism and all.

Why not UK?
Because they took the red pill too late, I truly believe that if Britain had gone more neo conservative earlier on, we'd be hearing about "british hackers" on CNN

So that leaves us with Russia. Why Russia?

Remember these hot American news stories?
-Russia Imprisons gays
-Russia invaded Ukraine
-Russia flies aircraft danger close to US naval fleet
-Russian government accused of hacking Sochi Olympics

This has been set up for the last 8 years as the foundation for the anti-kremlin sentiment we currently live in. Russian hackers exist right next to Big Foot and Nessy.

>>723804340
because it scares liberals.

>>723808743
You have yet to address any of the statistical quandaries presented in this thread you pompous faggot.

Pay attention newfags, this is what a shill sounds like. Completely ignores everything and tries to control the narrative.

The truth is, in these countries taking in Muslim immigrants, a fast majority of the violent and sexual crimes and government welfare per capita are from the aforementioned. This is a fact.

We don't need you, and we owe you nothing.

>>723809158
Oh.. popping out children they can't afford. So let's defund Planned Parenthood?

Yes, they ARE required to take them in at the ER and when they can't afford to pay for it guess who shares the brunt of that expense?

>>723807302
The rich one don't live in america you fucking ineducate.

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>>723808858
>alleged rape epidemic in Europe is horseshit

>>723808550
>no such thing as a free lunch
this meme again. yes there is, it's when someone else pays for it.

>>723809252
Worse. He's a diplomat. Which means he has diplomatic immunity.

>>723809046
He's talking about people not being denied healthcare services when going to the emergency room you stupid cunt. And yes the average tax paying American has to foot that bill.

I would also like to add that this encourages them to go to the ER when it isn't even fucking emergency.

>>723809131
>implying I watch Jew-vies
Fuck off shitskin.

We don't need you and we owe you nothing.

>>723809242
Okay, so people aren't dying in the streets and never were, we can agree on that. The county paid for it through real-estate taxes and some federal funding. I'm okay with a solution around that vs the socialized medical care we have now.

>So let's defund Planned Parenthood?
Are you incapable of debate or just retarded? Stop building straw-men you fucking idiot

>>723804340
You're probably the only reason I would ever be pro-choice.

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Why are trump haters so afraid of facts and logic

>>723809324
I know, but if you get cancer or need surgery, a transplant or whatever, and you don't have insurance you're either going to be dragged along until you come up with the money, or you will be put into debt. And if you're in debt, you're gonna fucking wish you made a payment towards that debt every paycheck even before you got sick.

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islam is peace

>>723804340
These b8 threads are so funnehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>723806558
Remember how much better education got under 8 years of the Democrats god figure?

>>723809802
yes.

>>723808743
I bet you believe feelings matter more than facts. Keep projecting everything that's wrong with your party on to the opposition, maybe by 2020 we'll still have 2 political parties.

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lefties are like

Sure is Russia in here still.

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, archaic, and weird. This is then followed by crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me masturbate again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering by a foreign entinty targeting us via social media.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal nutcases that endorse the murder or generalized and targeted hate of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb faggots. We aren't and we won't.

Basically, my personal feelings are..

I can understand wanting stricter immigration. Spending money on unproductive immigrants is a valid concern. How to correct that is what's up for debate. Idk if Trump's way is the best way though.

As for healthcare, I would much, much rather see a deduction from my paycheck for socialized medicine than see a raise in the minimum wage. It's the same thing as medicare, which I don't see a dime of.

Good read, anons.

Would read again.

>>723810182

Socialized Medicine would cost the country trillions.

Take a look at a plan like Bernie put together.

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>>723810182
when illegals are self-deporting, its show that Trump way is working.

>>723808743
>If someone is not willing to readily discover that they're wrong about something, they will never learn anything

You're absolutely right. So, go to Pakistan and Iran and see how wrong you are about your precious "religion of peace"


>conversations that we need to have are thwarted by Hillary shills on the internet who will contradict anything you say, regardless of how sound an argument, with a meme, cherry-picked statistics or sources, youtube videos, by attacking your credibility, by asserting that you're a paid shill on behalf of the Kremlin

FTFY


>or by logically unsound arguments (here are 50 reports of Muslim people committing crimes; therefore, being Muslim makes you more likely to commit crimes).

So correlative data is racist, therefore an unsound way to make decisions. I guess we better stop all that scientific research on life saving medicines then, because correlative data is apparently bullshit because YOU say so

And you liberal idiots wonder why noone likes you?

>>723810494

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, archaic, and weird. This is then followed by crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me masturbate again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering by a foreign entinty targeting us via social media.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal nutcases that endorse the murder or generalized and targeted hate of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb faggots. We aren't and we won't.

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Why would the same people who voted for a reality television star care about facts?

>>723810610
Aww is that for me?

Thanks for proving my point almost instantly! :D

>>723810610
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn.

But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>723810781
Not an argument

>>723808870
обоснуй, мудила епт

>>723806610
We criticized him relentlessly for that shit. He doesn't get a pass just because he has a D next to his name. You'd know this if you left your conservative echo chamber every now and then.

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>>723810833
>former Trump voter
And how is that? Did you redact your vote?

>>723808041

There aren't any. At least, not outside the universe of alternative facts.

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>>723804340

>>723810986
Liberals have never lied? So liberals are all basically Jesus?

>>723804340
People are afraid of what they don't know

>>723811035
Human civilization has only been around 10,000 years. We've been documenting history for 6,000 years.

Now who the fuck was recording history before that you tard? The fucking dinosaurs? Way to take shit out of context in true liberal fashion

>>723805423
tldr

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>>723804340

>Why are trump supporters so afraid of facts and logic?

Living in trailer parks, swamps and generally being the product of incestual relationships are conditions that do not promote the intellectual, or even a remotely intelligent, mindset.

>>723811282
kek

>>723811282
Hahaha! And yet we beat your billion dollar, celebrity powered, dictator-backed, feminist nightmare machine!

It's like A New Hope, but in real life

>>723806610

Trump has reduced the deficit by 12 billion in his first month.

And now he wants to hike the military budget by $54 billion dollars.

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>>723811282

>>723810399
We have it in Switzerland and quality of life is better than in the US

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>>723809276
The limey brits are just mad because other people having sex with their daughters offsets their inbreeding projection numbers.

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god damn the tears still keep flowing

>>723806032
trump makes liberals nuts because they're used to jumping on the exact words someone uses and trying to disect every meaning from them.

It's mostly because for some reason that's what their college level courses have told them to do with every author in the world to determine that edgar allen poe was actually a racist homophobe who was terrified of clowns.


The right doesn't give a fuck, we don't need to disect his words because we know what he's saying is a flow of conciousness and not a pre scripted politically correct speech.

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>>723811462
Oh good, so its being lowered!

>God you're dumb

>>723811504
Most of the developed world have it, mister Bergdeutscher

>>723811442
You're right, a gang of retards elected a billionaire president who hired all his buddies to bleed the working class dry.

Luckily the left is more likely to have college degrees, so you retards have fun starving to death and we'll keep being mildly worried we can't kill babies anymore. Seems like a fair trade.

>>723807770
does /b/ not know this is shareblue and not Russia?

>>723811557

the right doesnt give a fuck because they are too uneducated to understand and take anything this faux leader says as absolute truth

>>723810144
Some shill already pasted this. See>>723806683
But more importantly
See >>723807042

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>>723811601
>hike the budget by 54 billion
>hike

That means it's added onto the existing budget retard. Jesus christ you cannot really be this dumb....

>>723811504
Also, Switzerland has been strict on Islam, I think. I'm the liberal btw advocating first payer. I don't believe in religious extremes.

>>723811675
T. Liberal arts cuck

>>723811699

>calling people you don't agree with uneducated

This is why you lost muhammad

>>723811504
You are by far a more homogeneous society than we are. That definitely matters. Socialized medicine can work I will he the first to acknowledge that.

>>723811794
Almost all serious jobs require you have a degree regardless of field. So even the lefties who have a useless Liberal Arts degree stand head and shoulders above you in the job field.

Have fun starving.

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>>723804340
Why are libtards so butthurt, or more accurately sooooo anti-American, to post this false propaganda every day?

<---------Answer: he is paying for $2.35/hr. morons to come here and post this, oblivious to the reality that these type of posts are PRECISELY why Trump won.

Lol. Keep posting, dipshit.
Our keks are only getting stronger

>>723811611
Yeah I know but it was for saying that you can have it and you don't become automatically poor

>>723811926
I'm studying mathematics and statistics. I think I'll be fine. Have fun making coffee, cuck.

this >>723812047

>>723811899
>homogenous society
4 languages and 20% percent foreigners yeah sure

>>723812177
Still far more than we are.

>>723812177
>>723812206
And I clearly meant racial homogeneity.

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>>723812047
also because libtards are just plain dumb
democrats have always been the party of retards
every single study shows them to have an average IQ when sampled across the population (not just major cities where Universities are) to be at least 20 points below republicans

of course, everybody knows this

>>723811282
>Living in trailer parks, swamps and
those who does not support islam and socialism must live in a swamp

>>723812085
>studying math
>studying statistics

If it's in high school it doesn't count. Bust out a hard, non-googlable math problem to prove you're not full of shit (which you are)

>>723812360
Have some pasta we made for you guys:

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine our intel agencies informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanined with crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me fap again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering. We are being targetted by a foreign entinty via social media.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal nutcases that endorse the murder or generalized and targeted hate of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb faggots. We aren't and we won't.