do you agree with this?

>>723800857
You can't not agree. It is physically and factually true.

That's not how it works. Gender is not a binary but more like a spectrum.

>>723800857
when can we go back to it being 2015?

how did people become so retarded in one fuckin year?

>>723800857
Well no shit. You can only have a axe wound or a disco stick.

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there are 0 genders, there are 2 sexes and sexuality is a spectrum, that's all there is

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>>723800857
Correct. Penis=male. Pussy=female. Anything else is mental illness.
>>723801037
B8.

>>723801354
Go wait on the car...

but I sexually identify as an attack helicopter

>>723801037
That's simply not true. Sorry.

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>>723801037

>science is wrong, my opinion about a spectrum existing is what counts

>There are four lights

>>723800857
I don't agree jus because there are people born as true hermaphrodites who have a dick and vagina but all these transgender fucks can goto hell and burn

>>723801354
There are only two genders, sexuality has nothing to do with this.

>>723801510
>There are four lights
I love you.

If you agree with that you are literally retarded. Left ftw!

>>723801447
You can sexually identify with a house for all I care, but you're still either male or female.

>>723801447
A male or female attack helicopter?

>>723800857
Male = penis
Female = vagina
Fucking around with same sex, group sex, spit roasting, gangbangs, crossdressing = experimentation.
Anything else = mental illness unaddressed.

I agree op

>>723801530
"gender" is a social construct that hasn't even been used up until the 18th century, what people refer to as "gender" is where you fit in socially (masculine/feminine and everything in between). Sexual identity on the other hand is the sex you choose to identify as (male or female)

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>>723800857

Two Genders, male and female.

>Male and female have a lot more to do than just whats between your legs
>Literally your body's make up

When idiots dictate your gender is based on whats between your legs, they are wrong.

Gender is completely what is your physical make up. Now matter how you FEEL can't change the fact of what your body is.

When a doctor asks what is your gender, it's not so they can know if you have a penis or a vagina.

It's so if something comes up, that information that you are a male or female biologically is there and any problems that arise can be calculated accordingly.

>Hurr durr ma spectrum
I'm a fucking volunteer first responder, and I fucking hate when I have to help some loser that gets pissy over their pronouns.

Fuck you assholes, I should just let you croak right then and there.

>>723801623
kekd

>>723800857
If I had a dollar for every gender I'd have two dollars

>>723801815
/thread

>be me
>college professor
>this shit is rampant
>fat fucking "non binary gender fluid" guy in class
>"reidentifies every ten seconds"
>tries to start an argument when i tell him "get it together, man" for failing a test
>i find that offensive because i don't ident...
>yes yes, you've switched genders in your head to maximize the amount of time you walk around campus being pissed off at everyone.
>b-but..
>and despite how much to try, you still come up lacking because no matter how much trend following you do, it doesn't make you happy. You're isolating yourself and crying because you're so alone.
>that's not true.
>even the people like you don't want to associate with you. I've seen it. Anyway, you need to drop my class or you're going to fail. Have a great one.
>got a complaint filed
>slap on wrist
>go up north if you want to pull that shit

>>723801750
cont: you can develop female body parts during your development as a fetus but psycoligally still be male, this is how a trans person is created, "gender" is just whatever you wanna feel like, it has no actual meaning

>>723801750
Jesus Christ fine have it your way.

You can choose your sexual identity.
No amount of plastic surgery and hormones will change your biological sex.

Why would you want to anyway, implying nature isn't perfect when science and math clearly say the opposite.

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I am sorry if you have a pépé you are male, you have tits or vg no matter if born with pépé and look female, you're female. Get over it fuckers. Also I choose this card:

>>723802069
Oh that's how trans are created is it do you happen to have a source on that or are you speaking out of your non binary asshole

>>723802069
You're a fucking idiot

>>723802090
>birth gender
>perfect imperfection

>>723802246
Explain how any of that is incorrect

>>723800857
Penis=male
Vagina=female
Several layers of unhealthy denial, is not a gender.

It's genetics.
XX = Female
XY = male
Unless your DNA have an extra chromosome you fall into one of these TWO genders.
And those with an extra chromosome usually have down syndrome and are literally mentally retarded

Dress how you want, cut your hair how you want, cut off what you want, fuck who you want, whatever. Enjoy life. Just know that there are two checkboxes on your birth and death certificates, M and F. And the same will be checked on both.

>>723800857
GNEDER=/=SEX

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>>723802576
GENDER IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT BAAAAAAAAW

>>723801815
It is said in the bible "man and woman" so what the fuck are you? a mental illness that's for sure.

>>723800857
of course. I use logic in decision making, not emotion.

>>723800857
Yes, because biology.

>>723800857
there is only one gender: female. Once you realise that, you can finally live in the red pilled world

>>723802069
>cont: you can develop female body parts during your development as a fetus but psycoligally still be male, this is how a trans person is created, "gender" is just whatever you wanna feel like, it has no actual meaning

this is why you idiots are bashed, you neanderthals dont know anything when it comes to basic biology, yes that's somewhat true hence males get nipples but saying they are born trans? you are completely an idiot for believing that.

inb4
>i wanna have sex change
>go to doctor
>get surgery
>=trans

>>723802649
>referencing the bible
>telling others they have a mental illness
Well, I suppose you would be an expert.

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>>723802649

Get your fucking retard bible out of here.

There's only two genders. Your spectrum is invalid faggot.

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>>723800857
as a gender fluid person myself?
yeah, only two; anything other than that is utter bullshit
you can be one, or the other
you can't be neither, and you cant be some made up third gender let alone fourth
I'm mentally ill, but high functioning, if any of these people believe that there are not even close to that

>>723800857
As long as we are talking humans / many other lifeforms jess

>>723801447
Sonic pls

>>723802800
They're born with a set of gebitals that don't match their sexuality, they brain is wired as one sex but they're body another. I didn't mean they're literally born trans but they are destined to become trans-sexual or live a life of misery in the wrong body

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>>723800857
i'm not a fan of the non binary idea but there are XXY and X chromosomal people

>>723802356
I'm not >>723802246
but I'll explain it to you.
>you can develop female body parts during your development as a fetus
If you're talking about nipples, that has nothing to do with gender/sex subject that you're trying to discuss here. Otherwise, if you do develop female body parts, you're either a female, or a hermaphrodite.
>psycoligally still be male
what the fuck does that even mean?
>this is how a trans person is created
No, idiot. You chose to be a transgender, you aren't "created" one.
>"gender" is just whatever you wanna feel like, it has no actual meaning
That is the most retarded shit I've seen today. And I spend a lot of time on /b/. If the word has no meaning then why was it created in the first place? Let's just fucking remove meaning from words so that special little snowflakes can feel better about themselves because they don't get enough attention.

>>723801037
Subtle bait.

i disagree, there are male, female, and all the others who pretend that the following is not true and that should be killed for the sake of humanity.

>>723801210
Can we go back to it being 1960

>>723802576

you can have XXY Klinefelter, and X Turner syndrome. but this non binary shit is r

>>723802474
some people have both...

>>723801037
Even if it were true, it's a spectrum between two genders, male and female. You're male, female, gay, trans, etc, which are all various degrees of the two genders, male and female.

>>723803964
Doesn't mean it's magically something new. Apple + Orange =/= Banana

dont some animals breed asexually meaning there is only one gender

SPAM THIS ON TUMBLR

>>723800857
It happens to be a fact. So yes, I do agree with this.

>>723801037
It's not, it's a social construct, a very clear stereotype of sexual indentity you're supposed to identify to and behave accordingly. You can choose to indentify and act as somewhere in between, but as this identity is not widely spread in our society it's not a gender.

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>>723800857
Sex and gender are two different things, first off.

In addition to male (XY) and female (XX), there are numerous other sexes resulting from genetic mistakes (XXY, XYY, etc).
However, more most purposes, it suffices to say that there are two (2) sexes.

As for gender, it's best thought of as both masculine and feminine on either
A.) a graph with two positive axes, or
B.) a more simplified linear graph.

A.)

F
^
| .
|
|________> M
B.)
F <--------------------->M


In essence the two genders are masculine and feminine, and they include all their respective properties. Every person has both masculine and feminine qualities, but people fall on a scale of the two. Some are more masculine, and some are more feminine.

A.) is the most accurate measure and is shows not only how much of either quality a person has, but how strong that quality is in them (eg: Schwarzenegger is mostly masculine in appearance and personality, and he is very strong in his masculinity but rather weak in femininity; Justin Timberlake is much weaker in his masculinity than Ahnold and is also more feminine)

Masculinity and femininity are not opposites, but rather mirrors of each other. They are simply personality traits. While females are normally much more feminine than males, that's not to say that all women are strongly feminine and weakly masculine: there are plenty of hardass females who are more masculine than your dad (and vice-versa)

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>>723800857

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>>723800857
True. Even futanari are just girls that have two genders at once.

>>723805061
the whole thing is that people deny that you are either male or female

which is complete bullshit

the thing with being masculine and feminine is not even the topic. also nobody denies that and neither do people give a fuck.

>>723800857
Gender is a social construct invented by some jew.
Biological sex is all that matters

>>723805353
Fine you faggot let me make it simple enough for you to understand:

THERE ARE 2 GENDERS
THEY ARE "MANLY" AND "GIRLY"
GENDER IS NOT PENIS OR VAGINA

>>723805353
>the whole thing is that people deny that you are either male or female
Even the most retarded tumblrinas don't deny that, what they say is that you should not care about the biological sex of people, as the thing you see is their gender, not what's in their pants

>>723805340
Or is it males with two genders :o

This thread really died

>>723805601
>Even the most retarded tumblrinas don't deny that
well they do

>what they say is that you should not care about the biological sex of People
well i do care since maybe i want to fuck pussy and not a fucking dick
also fuck them for telling people what the should care about

>see is their gender, not what's in their Pants
i cant see either of those

srsly what i dont get with those snowflakes. why not just shut the fuck up and be happy with what you are. nobody cares if you feel extra fluid today or not. why rub it into everyones face and then be shocked that people get pissed or make fun of you.

atleast i have nature on my side to sort those idiots out

>>723801037

> Gender (n) the state of being male or female.

I see what you mean. That sure does sound like a spectrum.

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>>723805654
Who knows? For me it's like quantum superposition of gender.

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>>723800857
Honestly, why do you care how someone else defines themselves? According to medical professionals it is a mental disturbance to not conform to either the binary genders, but how does it harm anyone that they are a little disturbed?

>>723806183
>well they do
Ok, maybe the most retarded one, this is tumblr after all.
Still, the non brain damaged don't deny the reality of biological sex.

>i cant see either of those
Yes you do, you see someone with long hair, wearing make-up and a skirt, that's their gender, a woman. You think it has a pussy, that's their sex, female, but it could also be a well done trap, male.

>also fuck them for telling people what the should care about
Yeah, and fuck you for telling people what they shouldn't care about.

>>723800857
women are objects, therefore only one gender - male

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>>723801014
This

>>723800857
Yes, there are only two genders and then people with mental disorders.

>>723806999
F-futa thread?

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>>723810422
I wish, but gender-talk is serious business.

>>723801369
Nice math fuckbreath. 1+1+1 doesn't equal 2. Penis=1, Pussy=1, Anything Else=1. Think before you make a retard of yourself next time.

>>723800857
>do you agree with this?


I don't think gender or sex matter. We're all gonna die at the end of the day anyway. The only people who are ruining the flow of things are the ones making a big deal out of it (people like OP, and then people who try to force transgender thinking into other people's heads). Forcing your ideals on others is just a ploy. You're just seeking validation, and that makes you just as retarded as the "hurr durr, you should fuck me cause I'm actually a woman, and cause the patriarchy is cancer" mouth breathers. Let people live their lives for the limited time we get to spend actually existing.

>>723800857

Two biological sexes

There can be as many genders as there are ice cream flavors. How are people so dense that they don't understand this?

I can make up a gender right now. Peep this, my gender is Frogzres, nouns are Fro/Froz/Frozit

gen·der
ˈjendər/
noun
noun: gender; plural noun: genders

1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
"traditional concepts of gender"
synonyms: sex
"variables included age, income, and gender"
the members of one or other sex.
"differences between the genders are encouraged from an early age"
2.
Grammar
(in languages such as Latin, Greek, Russian, and German) each of the classes (typically masculine, feminine, common, neuter) of nouns and pronouns distinguished by the different inflections that they have and require in words syntactically associated with them. Grammatical gender is only very loosely associated with natural distinctions of sex.

Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or an intersex variation which may complicate sex assignment), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity.[1][2][3] Some cultures have specific gender roles that can be considered distinct from male and female, such as the hijra (chhaka) of India and Pakistan.

Now, since I'm sure everyone just assumes OP meant sexual nature - I find it funny most people are outright ignoring the fact that hermaphrodites exist and is going in an all out rage with their posts. Are most people browsing 4chan just angry little kids nerd raging?

>>723807422

When there is a co-worker who is a special snowflake and you use the wrong pronoun and then get in trouble for working the wrong pronoun that DIRECTLY effects my bottom line.

>>723812522
Get over it and call them whatever they want. You're just as bad for refusing to compromise and letting their autism get in the way of your hard work. Learn to adapt. You can be a conservative hero and protest when your livelyhood isn't at stake.

>>723812776

>Get over it

No.

>call them whatever they want

I will not be bullied.

>You're just as bad for refusing to compromise

This is a shit fallacy of an argument. "Hurr be better" "Durr you're morally compromised if you don't do X". Go fuck yourself.

> and letting their autism get in the way of your hard work.

I don't, I am showing you an example that relates to your argument of "how will this ever damage you"

> Learn to adapt

Not the point. I shouldn't have to adapt to autism, and I will not be pressured to.

>You can be a conservative hero and protest when your livelyhood isn't at stake.

"You can be a hero when there are no stakes". Are you fucking autistic?

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>>723800857
NO. Mostly Im feminine guy but somethimes I want to look like a gurl. Whats wrong with it? Especially when Im totally passable. Maybe its weird, but why not? Were living only once most probably, why not to try your fantasy?

There are four gender pools that everyone falls into
Feminine woman
Masculine woman
Feminine man
Masculine man

Everyone falls into only one of those
Sexuality has nothing to do with gender and for some reason people keep associating the two.

Now if you're talking about sex, then yeah we only have two.

>>723800857
yes

>>723811663
Nice reading skills niggershit. Think before you make a retard of yourself next time.

>>723813602
just because youre ugly and cant be both. otherwise you would understood

>>723812165
Well said

>>723813205

>Maybe its weird, but why not? Were living only once most probably, why not to try your fantasy?

Because your fantasy grinds against the very foundation of Western world's morals. Our moral roots go back to Christian teachings, in Western countries. So when you propose your autism to be accepted you can't be shocked that nobody fucking wants to accept it. You're talking about rewiring two thousand years worth of brain washing for a fantasy

Good fucking luck.

i believe in XX and XY

Crossdressing, slicing dicks and growing boobies are just cosmetic modification, as close as i may look to the real thing or attractive.

>only two genders

but muhhh feelings................

>>723814062
youre wrong. bible is a fairytale. whats wrong with moral anyway? nobody forcing you to change to something you dont want to be. just let us live happily. were humans too

>>723800857
i don't fucking care.

seriously, the whole debate is just god damn stupid. completely disregarding the morality of gender whatever, i still don't quite understand how the government could EVER ENFORCE these "gender exclusionary" laws. i mean, how do you enforce a bathroom law? you going to have a cop at every stall asking for ID? maybe have them dropping their pants before being allowed in? hell, why does anyone think a bathroom law is going to make the damn places safe? is a law saying you can or cant choose what bathroom you want to use actually going to discourage a rapist?

but if it gets rid of urinals, i'm all for opening the bitches up to whatever magical gender you think you are, those fuckers are disgusting.

really, the only thing i find interesting in the whole debate is the general acceptance of what would be called a psychological disorder in any other form. i mean, if i went out tomorrow and declared myself transracial and now a black man i'd be shot (by other black people, not the cops...).

Everyone here sucks dicks.

One gender.

>>723800857
I agree, allthough scientifically there are two biological genders and THREE anatomical genders; man, woman and something in between

>>723814469

You're literally too fucking stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time, aren't you?

People grew up believing one thing, The Christian teachings, because they have been brain washed through THOUSANDS of years of the same shit being bashed into their skulls.

You coming out of the brushes saying shit that DIRECTLY opposes our way of life for two thousand years is not going to be received well. It took blood, sweat, and tears for the Gay community to be accepted by the general population. That shit took DECADES and even today in First World countries society is divided.

This shit is going to be hard. You bitching on the internet is not going to change anything, do you not fucking understand that? You need to organize HUGE numbers to support you and begin shitting out your own propaganda into the world to even begin seeing a change in the tides.

>Nobody forcing you to change to something you dont want to be

You're literally sitting here and saying "the morals you have established for 2000 years are wrong."

>just let us live happily. were humans too

You're a god damn disgrace. Not because you're transgender, because you're a moron.

>>723814892
2000 years? lol. my mom is christian, my grandma is even more. Im not. what brainwashing are you talking about? im not against adequate morality, fairytale bible, and shit. but whats wrong being gay and more comfortable than just 100% testosterone male? its not stone age, you dumbass. its a sexually free society

>You're a god damn disgrace. Not because you're transgender, because you're a moron.
no, thats you

>>723801510

>There are four lights

We're friends now.

>>723800857
Only White Alt Cucks who voted for Hilary & Hollywood faggots/Media/Academia think otherwise, OP. Penis = Male; Vagina = Female. All else is mental illness - Believers in more than 2 genders should be first to be executed in the coming Civil War.

>>723815884
which bible is about fairies?

>>723815884

I can't penetrate autism this fucking dense.. holy fuck.

I am talking about the foundation of our society. Shit like .. don't kill, steal, don't talk shit. All of that has been bashed into us throughout thousands of years, in Western countries. Unfortunately, alongside those we also have been taught about not fucking dudes, and a man should do man shit.

Get this through your head. I am not advocating for or against transgender issues, you fucking child. I am informing you that you have a long road ahead of you if you wish to make even a dent in the way we, as a society, perceive shit as normal or acceptable. You pleading on the internet does fuck all for you or your cause, you need to think bigger.

>2000 years?

Yeah.. around the time Christianity has been around.. give or take.

>lol. my mom is christian, my grandma is even more. Im not.

Who the fuck cares, you fucking clown? I am talking about you specifically.

>what brainwashing are you talking about?

When you're a young kid and you're taught not to steal, that teaching is based on Christian values, you fucking chromosome bandit.

> im not against adequate morality, fairytale bible, and shit. but whats wrong being gay and more comfortable than just 100% testosterone male?

That's not what I am talking about. People who are raised to believe one thing are not going to change their position over night.

>its not stone age, you dumbass.

That's rich coming from the anon who isn't having the same fucking argument.

>its a sexually free society

What fucking fairy tale are you living in?

>>723816681
>What fucking fairy tale are you living in?
people live in fairy tales?

No, there are 5. Being Trump, Feminazi & Patrick

>>723800857
Yup

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As a guy who dress and act girly, I can confirm to you with no doubt there is only 2 gender

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>>723806999
A powerful statement followed by repeating digits. TRUTH

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where it's that picture with the cut penis?

>>723816681
>When you're a young kid and you're taught not to steal, that teaching is based on Christian values, you fucking chromosome bandit.
yea? I still stole some when was 10 lol. right from supermarkets. not saying thats good tho. still torrenting a lot of stuff

>Yeah.. around the time Christianity has been around.. give or take.
fairy tale, yep

>That's not what I am talking about. People who are raised to believe one thing are not going to change their position over night.
of course. only if not really forced

>What fucking fairy tale are you living in?
modern world. where are you? living 2000 years ago, monkey?

>>723801014
Male = penis
Female = vagina
rotors = apache helicopter

>>723800857
Si senor.

>>723800857
There are only two genders, there are however a multitude of orientations.

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>>723800857
I am 2-Spirited. My pronouns are ghost and phantom. Respect my pronouns you bigot

There are only 2 genders, male and female. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's going to change. Think of a white person who wants to be black. Can they change? No. Can they ACT like a black person? Sure, but that doesn't mean they are black. Just because a tranny gets a "sex change" from MTF doesn't mean they are female. Even if they are considered female, there's still only 2 genders. Whats all this gender fluid bullshit going around these days?

>>723818827
what about the look?

>>723818571

>yea? I still stole some when was 10 lol. right from supermarkets. not saying thats good tho. still torrenting a lot of stuff

That has nothing to do with anything, cunt.

>fairy tale, yep

Are you seriously this fucking stupid?

>of course. only if not really forced

You're going to force people to accept your position? You learned nothing from Hitler?

>modern world. where are you? living 2000 years ago, monkey?

Oh modern world, huh? Go on then you're a "feminine male." Travel to any of the Muslim "modern" countries. No? How about Russia, the "Modern" power house? Still No? What about Muslim neighborhoods in U,K? Oh you're going to get stoned to death? Such a modern view on this "Free sexuality" you're talking about. What about any of the rural cities in U.S.A go around dressed up in a dress, and just see how this "modern" First world country treats you.

Keep your shit fallacies to yourself. I don't subscribe to the shit you're pedaling so I am a "monkey?" Go fuck yourself.

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Soon there will only be on gender; SLAVE
CRISPR gene editing will be used to
disfigure the DNA, the very soul of man.
You, your children, and their childrens children
will have relinquished your souls in exchange
for "becoming a special snowflake" by
adding animal DNA to your own.
What you will truly receive is IQ and
cognitive readjustment. You will be a race like
the chinese.
SLAVE PEOPLE

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>>723801014
>>723801037

Both arguments distilled so succinctly. Why were there even responses after this? They're diametrically opposed.

My thought surprisingly is cynical: love is not perfect, you will never be completely accepted for who you are or be completely comfortable with yourself. If you mutilate yourself in pursuit of that you seriously limit your ability to even get close under any circumstance. Just learn to accept what you are. Learn to live with something being wrong. Eventually it won't feel wrong anymore.

>>723819271
>That has nothing to do with anything, cunt.
why not?

>Are you seriously this fucking stupid?
christianity is a fairy tale. are you seriously this fucking stupid?

>You're going to force people to accept your position? You learned nothing from Hitler?
no, Im not gonna do it. just saying. christians are forcing it, to death. how many innocent ppl were killed or burned as witches, huh?

>Oh modern world, huh? Go on then you're a "feminine male." Travel to any of the Muslim "modern" countries. No? How about Russia, the "Modern" power house? Still No? What about Muslim neighborhoods in U,K? Oh you're going to get stoned to death? Such a modern view on this "Free sexuality" you're talking about. What about any of the rural cities in U.S.A go around dressed up in a dress, and just see how this "modern" First world country treats you.
sure, there still a lot of monkeys. thats why were living still in such an ugly and horrible world. becuase humans are still retarded filthy egoistic monkeys

>>723820485

>why not?

Because whether or not you stole as a 10 year old has nothing to do with Christianity being the model design for the morals in Western countries.

>christianity is a fairy tale. are you seriously this fucking stupid?

Harry Potter is fiction and I learned about the value of friendship from the book, does that mean that my values are not real? Pull your head out of your ass. Whether or not you believe The Bible has nothing to do with the argument of Christianity being used as the sample design when the Western society structured their morals and values.

>no, Im not gonna do it. just saying. christians are forcing it, to death. how many innocent ppl were killed or burned as witches, huh?

And? Let's explore that a little bit. People are killing other people in the name of a false idol. Okay, does that mean their fundamental argument is wrong? No, it just means those particular people are primitive morons who are not capable of having a discussion, or are not willing to discuss their beliefs.


>sure, there still a lot of monkeys. thats why were living still in such an ugly and horrible world. becuase humans are still retarded filthy egoistic monkeys

That notion of "everyone who doesn't think the way I do is a monkey" is a fallacy. You don't actually have an argument, you're just repeating "Oh it's the current year" well so fucking what?

Psychologists find that the majority of trans identifying individuals are on the autism spectrum and that in reality the trans identifiers are an inability for autistic individuals to correctly identify one's self due to their inability to engage in societal norms. Normative behavior dictates 2 genders. Trans identification is literally a symptom of mental deficiency

>>723801014
This. You either have an XX chromosome or an XY chromosome or you're a tard.

Lots of millenials seem to have a hard time remembering the difference between gender and sexual preferences.

>>723801037
No.

>>723800857
yes
>>723801014
/thread

>>723801296
unless you're a hemaphrodite

>>723800857
Yes, because it is impossible for there to be a third, it's quite simple.

No matter what someone thinks of themselves, or does to modify their appearance, they can't escape their base genetics, which will inform us that they are a male or female.
Science!

I identify as a dragon so I'm in the dragon gender

>>723800857
yes, and SJWs should stop squatting on a perfectly good terminology, thank you
>get your own words, faggots

>>723821700
science says different from you

>>723800857
Yes. They are masculine, and feminine.

only retards and cucks care about whatever gender people "identify" as

>>723821645
But that isn't a third gender, it's a bit of both, and one trait is more dominant than the other.
So even if someone is born with a cock and a cunt, only one of them will actually be functional for reproduction, or even pleasure.
They might have a cunt, but can't produce eggs, and they might have a cock, but it's a limp noodle.
Even in the world of the hermaphrodite, only one of their genders is functional, if they're lucky.
Sometimes neither one is viable for reproduction.

>>723821927
And that is?

>>723821927
So, science, or specifically genetics, doesn't agree that there are only two genders?
Do you live in an alternate universe?

>>723814469
Except you are forcing us, that's the point.
Having to put up with your idiocy isn't our obligation

>>723801014
Even if gender was a social construct, that would mean society defines your gender for you, you don't get to choose.>>723821965
>Sometimes neither one is viable for reproduction.
Most of the time from what I've read.

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Me as a dragoon

>>723801037
i know this is bait but still kill yourself

>>723800857
I understand why people who are all fucked up about their identity care about this shit, but why the fuck do YOU? Quit wasting your time on this random nonsense.

>>723822178
This. You can be a mentally ill faggot all you want but you can't demand I respect you. That's up to me. And I don't.

>>723814892
you've got it, but you're also wrong. This is how it starts. You shouldn't get so upset over the natural way of things, its not healthy.

>>723812522
>I have co-workers
shut up you lying piece of shit, you have no job

>>723801037
Funny because a lot of morons identify as binary.

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>>723801989
Holy shit dude

no.

There are three genders and they all occur naturally.

Male, Female and Hermaphrodite.

>>723822620
And the dragoon gender

>>723822767
>dragoon gender
I looked it up.

Unless you are referring to someone who was born with no sexual organs I cannot see that as being a fourth gender.

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My next gender and race shall be

>>723822915
If girls can be guys or a cat then I can be a motherfukin dragoon

I want my own personal dragoon bathroom as well

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>>723800857
Aside from actual physical abnormalities like having a penis, but also breasts or both a penis and a vagina I completely agree. There are only two biological genders.

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this!

>>723800857
Terminology really matters and you need to stop using gender and gender indentity interchangably , Gender is biological and in humans you have two genders. Gender Identity is social construct

>>723811663

Giving mental Illness an actual number, are you retarded?

>>723824157
stop confusing sex with gender

>>723800857
There are two sexes, but not just only two genders

If we can be any gender that means we can be any race to. Right?

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This thread is offensive.

>>723800857
There are two genders in human society as we know it.

Theoretically more genders could exist. Also theoretically males could be female in gender and vice versa.

>>723824157
>>723823461
There's no such thing as a biological gender. We have a word for what you're trying to describe and it's sex.

Gender is a sociological term and it describes whether someone is sociologically a man, woman or other.

Recognising that gender is different from sex has no bearing on how you think the two are linked or how many genders exist.

>>723801815
bait.

>>723820885
>Harry Potter is fiction and I learned about the value of friendship from the book
lolwhat? epic autism. btw

>does that mean that my values are not real?
that just means that youre autistic

>Whether or not you believe The Bible has nothing to do with the argument of Christianity being used as the sample design when the Western society structured their morals and values.
ok lol. so what do you wanna say then?

> it just means those particular people are primitive morons who are not capable of having a discussion, or are not willing to discuss their beliefs.
thats what Im saying about

>well so fucking what?
its a dying construct thats what

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>>723825732
gender is or at least was a synonym of "sex".

>>723801037
that's sexuality, you pony raping Apache helicopter fag.

>>723825732
Mental illness.

>>723801037
Yeah, and you're on the spectrum alright.

>>723821440
well, you can be XXY or XXX. but you're a genetic defect at that point and not considered a healthy human specimen.

>>723811663
max autismo detect

>>723826024

>lolwhat? epic autism. btw

>too stupid to decipher argument
>must be autism

>that just means that youre autistic

>too stupid to decipher argument
>must be autism

>ok lol. so what do you wanna say then?

I've been saying it for the past 7 replies, you fucking clown.

>thats what Im saying about

Doesn't mean their position is wrong.

>its a dying construct thats what

No it's not, and so what if it was?

>>723822401


>You shouldn't get so upset over the natural way of things, its not healthy.

This is a fallacy. Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's valid.

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transgender is just a coping mechanism for homosexuals in this state of affairs

>>723826025
It so happens that we need a term to describe being a man, woman or other in society and a word to describe your biological make up.

The way gender is currently defined by most dictionaries makes that distinction clearly.

Just to reiterate for those who still don't get it. Recognising that gender is a sociological concept and sex is a biological concept tells you absolutely nothing about a person's opinion on the actual subject.

A person can recognise the terms as different and still think that sex and gender are a complete 1:1 link, however it's still useful to have a word to describe both concepts.

>>723822436

>shut up you lying piece of shit, you have no job

Smells like projecting to me.

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>>723826558

>>723826545
>Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's valid.
It literally means it's valid.
Unnatural do not survive without external, artificial assistance.
E.g. transsexual deviants and homosexuals cannot procreate and die out. Hence, unnatural biology.

You liberals try to take an apple and call it an orange in the name of progression and tolerance. But an apple is still an apple. Call it an orange all you want, but an apple wearing the skin of an orange is still an apple. That apple is not transitioning to an orange--its flesh cannot become that of an orange, and its seeds do not transform from apple seeds to orange seeds.

It's an apple.

>>723826426
so you see that Im right, straight guy?

>>723826984

>It literally means it's valid.

No it fucking doesn't, you troglodyte.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

Not to mention it's a pointless fucking argument. Are you going to convince all the breeders to stop breeding in order to eradicate all the fags and trannies, you god damn retard?

>>723828080

I see that you're a fucking moron who doesn't posses the ability to generate a single original opinion, so you regurgitate platitudes, you heard online, that are barely related to the topic of conversation. You do that until you choke out any logic and reason out of the conversation at which point you say dumb shit like "so you see that Im right, straight guy?"

You're a clown, and you're wrong about everything.

>>723826558
This.

If I told you my gender was an AH-64 Longbow and I really believed it you'd know without quetion, I have a mental disorder.

If I told you I was an asexual, non-binary, non-denineated, aromantic, nazi, gender queer trans-panda these degenerates would have a holiday to celebrate it.

>>723828125
>convince all the breeders to stop breeding in order to eradicate all the fags and trannies

When we identify the mechanism, selective eugenics bitch.

>>723800857
There is a gender spectrum that could be even more than two dimensional.
Besides that, it's a fact that there are more than two sexes...
> chromosomal disorders

>>723828841
Citation required.

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>>723828408
lol. think everything you want. you will be still fucking hating fat loser, not a cute tranny like me

>>723828701


>When we identify the mechanism
>When we identify
>When we
>we

Who the fuck are you?

>selective eugenics bitch.

Eugenics already means selective you redundant fucking moron.

>implying your gene pool is going to survive the eugenics process in society

I don't understand why you're so happy.

>>723828841
Uh, excuse me, disorders? It's called chromosomal diversity. Just because you're chromosomal-typical, I mean, ugh!

>>723814369
do you know that you could be xx and still be a male? im not talking trans shit but like biologicaly thats legit

>>723829006

>fucking hating fat loser,
That seems decidedly classist and ableist, perhaps you need to check your self-hating gay white privilege.

I feel like it should be changed, honestly. The only gender stuff I've ever believed was real was agender and transgender. Agender just seems like someone that wants to break away from traditional gender roles and transgender just sounds like someone that feels that they weren't born into the right gender.

I believe that there are only two genders, but different mindsets. And honestly as long as they're not annoying about it I'm fine with it.

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>>723829006

Who the fuck cares?

You'll still be a moron and I will still have high blood pressure bashing my head against this dense wall of ignorance you are choosing to encase yourself with.

>>723829086
Parents who don't want abnormal children I'd imagine. You should hear *haha* how the deaf community rages about gene therapy to detect, and even prevent certain types of deafness in utero.

>>723800857
>do you agree with this?

It's biologically obvious.
Only an idiot snowflake would have to think about this...

having a penis is troublesome

>>723829006
Don't worry, in all likelihood you'll still commit suicide in a few years or die from a drug overdose.

Your family might consider it a relief, assuming you are still connected.

>>723802636
Outstanding.

/thread

no.

>>723803695
>>>723801210
>Can we go back to it being 1960

And kill all of the pre-freaks?
Damn straight, we should!

>>723829006
your tiny titties barely even define you as a trap, and youre far from cute nigga lmao

try better

>>723800857
Yes. You either have XX or XY chromosomes. Simple as that.

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OP IS A FAGGOT

>>723813205
>Maybe its weird, but why not?

Why not cut to the chase and go kill yourself?
Seriously, your bullshit is just polluting the otherwise relevant social dialog. In other words, you're a whiny attention whore that should be sent to the deepest, emptiest part of siberia, with nothing but flip-flops and a bikini.

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>>723801623

>>723829639
you will die earlier for sure, loser

>>723816279
>>>723800857 (OP)
>Only White Alt Cucks who voted for Hilary & Hollywood faggots/Media/Academia think otherwise, OP. Penis = Male; Vagina = Female. All else is mental illness - Believers in more than 2 genders should be first to be executed in the coming Civil War.

Dat nailz it. Buh bye

>>723803209
I was taught that the difference lied in their having a Y chromosome. So XXY is male and X is female

at least all you fucking basement nerds are talking about this shit.

>>723829580
>having a penis is troublesome

Not as troubling as these trans-assholes and their fairytales.

Feelings are like assholes, BTW, everyone has them, and they can all get fukked. You ARE what you ARE -
And that is either Male or Female.

The only other possibility is that you're genetically defective, and/or mentally defective. Either way, if you're defective, you're irrelevant.

And there we discover the only real third possibility for gender: Defective and irrelevant.

/thread

>>723823120
You're confusing gender with identity.

And a lot of these faggots are confusing gender with sexuality.

gender is a physical state. Although, now we can change gender surgically.
But I will concede in there being 4 genders.
Male, Female, Hermaphrodite, and Non-gender(no sexual organs).

The only way i can see the last one happening naturally is if a woman is born without a vagina since the penis can still be used as a sexual organ.

>>723804000
You are genetically male or female. There may be some argument about a genetic basis for male homosexuality. But other then that, it's all a spectrum of how you accommodate the genetics or conditioning you have.

>>723805601
>you should not care about the biological sex of people

In most cases, yes.

>not what's in their pants

As long as they keep it there, yes. But bathrooms don't work that way.

>>723812323
>my gender is Frogzres

We have no toilet for you.

>>723832506
>>>723812323
>>my gender is Frogzres

Put you in a round room, and you can only piss in the corner...

>>723800857
No

>>723801037
this is appeasement science, made up to make colleges look as diverse and friendly as they need to be to keep a reputation such that they can financially compete with the other ones, their PR is a product of the times. same goes for every institution, especially democracies in which power relies heavily on popularity

there are two genders. anyone who legitimately believes they experience otherwise is probably deeply confused/insecure on a personal level. this does not mean they are genderqueer, trans or whatever, this means they have identity issues, and these people can not dictate against this normality

as a side note, sexual attraction preferences has literally nothing to do with any of this

>>723833122
Yes

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>>723800857

I didn't, but then I realised I was reading my DoB by mistake.

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U heliophob m8

>>723800857
Yes, beyond even the smallest shadow of any doubt

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>>723801583

>>723833122
Mutated fuck

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>>723805061
Are you retarded?

No one can be born XYY, no gametes ever exist in either parents' body with two copies of a Y chromosome.

>>723805061
true. masculinity and femininity are two qualities shared by everyone to different extents.

that, however, is where that stops.

for one, masculinity and femininity are so arbitrary between societies and time periods that there are almost no common features.

more importantly, your traits and preferences have absolutely nothing to do with how people are supposed to think of you, refer to you and have nothing to do with where you sit on some mystical spectrum.

if you are a woman who likes tanks, boxing and lifting weights, you have masculine interests. does this make you male in any way? no. does this change the fact you are a woman? no. is this related to sex or identity in any meanigful way? no.

>>723800857
yes two types of genders:
▲physical gender subtitled in 2 categories: male and female.
▲social gender : it was supposed to get homosexual people accepted but then society, people, and society again fucked it up.
Now it's all about people complaining their gender is something that's don't even human.
In fact Social medias influenced it too much but for normal people there is no discussion : you can consider yourself everything as long as you don't disagree your physical gender and annoy people with that.

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>>723800857
what does gender mean exactly would be my question I guess? Sex means like biologically male or female so does gender mean the same thing? Or is it more along the lines of how males and females typically act or what?

>>723829006
At least this fucking thing followed the rules:

Tits or gtfo

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>>723821440
but thats biological sex, not gender. When they say gender they are talking about social roles and stuff I guess.

>>723802090
>implying nature isn't perfect
its not? Hence cancer and unintelligent design in evolution.

Hermaphroditism is thing. And even then it still goes binary.

So yeah, I completely agree,

>>723835759
An incident in chromosome separation during anaphase II of meiosis called nondisjunction can result in sperm cells with an extra copy of the Y-chromosome. If one of these atypical sperm cells contributes to the genetic makeup of a child, the child will have an extra Y-chromosome in each of the body's cells.

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>>723801511

>>723837980
>Hermaphroditism is thing.
If we standardized aberrations there'd be no point in categorizing anything.

>>723800857
There are only two genders, hermaphrodites are usually closer to one or the other and only really count as disorders of the two actual, normal and healthy genders.

>>723800857
Well see, here's the beautiful thing about facts: whether you agree with them or not, they're still facts.

>>723802649
Lol bro you've lost the argument give it a rest.

I prefer saying there are two sexes.
Gender is a much loosed term and regrettably can be misconstrued by clinical retards. You are correct in principle though.

>>723800857
Hermaphrodites
Albinos
Conjoined
Amputees
Aliens
These are all genders.

See in my opinion there are 3
>Penis= make
>Vagina= female
>People born with tits and a dick = mutant
>everything else = mental illness
Trans doesn't exist. The moment you get the surgery you become the other gender you don't get your own special one.

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>>723800857
When normal becomes the minority

Threads like this get created

>Yes i agree , this is simple alchemy 101.

>>723800857
Yes, women and traps.

>>723801014
Hermaphrodites exist so the # is 3 the rest is preference

>>723801037
For as long as the word has existed, 'gender' has been a synonym of 'sex'
But up until about a year ago people who were told ad nauseum they could be anything they wanted to be decided to alter the definition to suit their very vivid imaginations.