any takers?

If the penis is feminine, it is literally impossible for them to be gay

Nuck Figgers

They're not all gay. (See: "Lesbian" trapped in a man's body)
But they are all mentally ill.

>>723722530
He's right, whats to fight about?

>>723722530
There's only two genders.

>>723722530
trannies are mentally ill but I'm still attracted to them , feels very conflicting

>>723724352
Fucking right, and there's no choice involved either.

>>723724352
So the word transexual means nothing to you?

>>723725925
No, cause it doesnt exist. Mental illness and two genders however does.

>>723726235
>it doesn't exist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual

>Mental illness and two genders however does

Please elaborate on how you think mental illness and gender have any relation at all

>>723726698
yes it exists as mental illness, your point?

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>>723726995
Not a proper retort but I guess I didn't really expect anything better from someone who's to ignorant to educate themselves...

>>723726698
There are two genders. There is no choice or will involved in them. You are one or the other, and will remain that way for all time, regardless of hormones or surgery. To believe your body is somehow "wrong" despite being healthy and functional is a dangerous delusion and a clear sign of mental illness.

>>723722530
I agree I think we need to do some shock therapy to probably balance their brain, or this might sound weird but probably by keeping them awake for a week, and water boarding, as I mention the shock therapy with hipnosis could probably fix their brain.
Not even a Trump supporter, probably they need more experiments to study them it is for me really peculiar but they will probably brand me a racist, I think we need or someone needs to do this I even have notes.

It got dropped from the DSM. Either you support scientific community and the results they deliver and you work to improve them or you're a neo-luddite fucker who relies on feelies instead of academic study.

Git gud and be part of the system to change definitions via studies and evidence or shut the fuck up.

>>723727208
If you want to claim there are more than two genders in the human species you will have to show some hard facts. Not just the feelings of faggots who's never been told their macaroni paintings where shit.

>>723727208
since you like logic so much:

https://youtu.be/Fi1FvnvJbcM

>>723727208
found the mentally ill person

>>723727775
There is three genders im not sure what they are called when they are born with a dick and a pussy, at the same time, those are the ones who need to make a choice of been a girl or a boy, the other ones is just mental illness.

>>723727517
Holy shit there are so many ways to tear this argument apart.

Technically speaking there are more than 200+ genders, but that may be too much for you to handle. Ever hear of being genetically male but physically female? The same goes vice versa.

>>723727775

Educate yourself https://apath.org/63-genders/

>>723727824

Don't link youtube videos. They all pander to their own demographic and don't bother to relate with those who oppose their argument.

>>723727829

Why are you here if you're just going to point fingers?

>>723727775
There are more than 2 genders in some unimportant cultures. They're edge cases. But I will say that gender is a social construct based upon phenotypical sex. It was a socially evolved construct of course, but gender as we know it is just a set of cultural and social behaviors that we allow to exist by keeping them going. If you wanted to you could build a genderless society, but why?

Its the same the as money. It has relevance and importance and is "real" but only because it evolved to be important culturally.

>>723728048
>born with a dick and a pussy.

Yes you can be, but your inner workings are one gender or the other. And lo and behold the ones who are changed to the sex they innerds arent turn to suicide.

>>723728048
I think you`re talking about hermaphrodites, and I don`t think it can count as a third gender if it`s a combination of male and female.

>>723728255
this isn't an edit, it's a clear debate between a man and a woman. Could you point out where Ben is wrong? I don't remember any fallacies on his part.

>>723726698
>Please elaborate on how you think mental illness and gender have any relation at all

They aren't related at all. Transsexualism is a mental illness. There are 2 genders, male and female.

>>723728472
You're literally part of the uninformed vocal majority.

>>723728255
>educate yoruself with my totally non biased source.

>>723728317
>unimportant cultures
No they where pregnancy related problems that older cultures couldnt deal with and made up mumbo jumbo

There are only two genders.
Transsexuality does exist, but it is not an entirely new gender. A transsexual still identifies as a male or a female.
As for whether it's a mental illness is debatable.

Either you admit that gender is a social construct and therefore bifurcated (not dependent on phenotypical sex) or you admit that intersex people count as a 3rd gender.

>>723728629
You are literally part of the stupid people who thinks spewing dogma they dont understand is the same thing as knowledge.

>>723728685
In what way is it biased?

>>723728629
How am I uninformed? I posted one video. Are you assuming that's the only source I have on gender? I thought it was poor manners to assume things concerning gender.

>>723728629
>literally
>literally
>literally

You have no idea what literally means. If you can't even google the definition of a word you overuse then why should I take anything you say seriously?

>>723728982
Because its clearly written by a sociologist with an agenda

>>723729222
Give me your reddit username and let me check your post history to see if you're well educated

>>723728255
>there are more than 200+ genders
Lol not even close.

All of human sexuality can be described with 4 criteria:
personal gender (male, female)
personal descriptor (masculine, effeminate, neuter, varies)
preferred partner gender (male, female, either, neither, varies)
preferred partner descriptor (masculine, effeminate, neuter, varies)

None of your "genders" are real

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>>723728255
>Ever hear of being genetically male but physically female?

male? yeah, heard of that icecream that looks like spaghetti?

its ice cream

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>>723729358
>reddit

Hey everyone, you saw it here first. Trannies confirmed mentally ill.

>>723728406
yeah that is the one, still really fucked up those were actually born that way.
They do get to chose or their parents

Op hoped we would justify his existence. Two genders. That's it, 2 no more no less two. Did I say two.

>>723729358
sure kid here have even the phone number
phone number :
+1 (212) 832-2000, Fax : +1 (212) 935-0141

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>>723729438
>>723729449
lol go back to your conservative holes you call home

>>723722530
Pretty edgy to post it on FB of all places

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Every time I hear someone trying to say there's more than 2 genders

>>723728406
I actually have a friend that is partially hermaphroditic due to being born 10 weeks early. He has a single developing female breast

>>723722530
He's right though

>>723729825
Was that sexual harassment ?

Is that what you just did to me?

>>723729825
Get out of your tumblr echochamber

>>723728255
>200+ genders
Seriously. What the fuck.

Also waste of dubs

>>723729825
Arright, guys. Polygender simpathizers have run out of word vomit. allow me to:

>/thread

>>723729961
Thats a birth defect, not being hermaphroditic

>>723729961
Nice, you ever ask him to show you it ?

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>>723729358
not the person you are arguing with, btw

>>723730188
Being hermaphroditic is a birth defect retard

>>723729849

learn the difference between gender and sex

stop being ignorant and waiting for people to spoon feed you information. if you're an adult you're old enough to do your own research. if you're not, you don't belong on the internet.

>>723730225
I've played with it a little. It's decidedly a female breast and not a bitch tit

>>723729825
Only if you go back to r/trannyfags so you can circle jerk about your mental illness and finally feel accepted in life.

>>723726235
>>723726995
>>723727517
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>>723727829
>>723728472
>>723728628
>>723728685
>>723728909
>>723729026
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>>723730344

Actually taking my bait. You guys are so pathetic you got into an argument someone who openly admits to being a cuck.

>>723727208
Too*
And I don't believe there's anyone here more uneducated than you. Look at you, using Wikipedia as a "reliable source".

>>723730268
hermaphrodism doesn't exist in humans. Not true atleast

>>723730505
>I can't win my idiotic argument
>better say I was trolling

>>723730301
Yeah we know, there is none. Only made up terms by sociology professors with to much time on their hands.

>>723729825
Dont be mad that you're on the wrong side of science and history. Just be yourself and embrace that you and your mates who choose feelings over fact are deluded.

>>723730531
Enlighten me, what is true hermaphroditism?

>>723730505
>hey guys, I was only pretending to be retarded!!
>oh wait i'm a trannyfag i'm already retarded

>>723730681
How bout you google it you "educate yourself" disgusting faggot

I identify as a Cuban freedom fighter who identifies as a Jewish holocaust/Japanese intern mentioned camp victim who also identifies as an African slave; for maximum sympathy.

>>723725925
it's just a faggot wearing the opposite sex's clothes

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>>723730766
How about you refrain from spewing bullshit that you can't back up?

>>723728255
>They all pander to their own demographic and don't bother to relate with those who oppose their argument
>Proceeds to present a totally biased source as fact
Good job, hypocrite

> gender = birth sex not social construct

> intersex people ascribe to one of the two genders because of society

pick one

>>723730301
and obviously you don't belong outside, so good job thus far

>>723730857
>say the one claiming there are 63 genders

>>723730301
There is no difference, and actual empirically reviewed science ages agrees. I don't deny transgender people their humanity they can live as they see fit, but I refuse to pretend societies all over the world have been wrong since the dawn of time

>>723730930
>made up shit vs fact

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>>723722530
Wrong. They're not all gay.

Bruce Jenner still wants to fuck women after his sex change.

>>723730786
>jewish holocaust
>letmestopyouthere

>>723730505
>J-jokes on you guys! I was j-just trolling hehe...

>>723730620

>implying everything else isn't made up

we know what we can measure, things change as time goes on. are you a religious fag anon? it would make sense why you're so ignorant

>>723731049
yeah you're right, gender = birth sex is made up shit.

according to literally the entire scientific community that studies gender it is a social construct created by society, not inextricably linked to sex.

Theres a reason the two terms exist independent of one another.

>>723730954

i'm outside right now lolol. it's nice out here. if you had friends maybe you would have a reason to go out more

>>723730930
Except you're forgetting that gender is not defined by genitals. Your chromosomes decide. XX = woman, XY = man.

>>723730930
Wrong. People affected by klinefelter syndrome may have both, or aspects of both, genders but in all cases at least one set of genitalia will be underdeveloped. They are the gender that matches the most developed genitals.

>>723731236
>scientific community that studies sex

sociologist=/=scientists. Il trust biology thank you very much

>>723729666
Satan trips have spoken. All else is lies and Jewish bullshit

>>723731236
>Has never heard of synonyms

>>723730766
>A common cause of being intersex is the crossing over of the SRY from the Y chromosome to the X chromosome during meiosis. The SRY is then activated in only certain areas, causing development of testes in some areas by beginning a series of events starting with the upregulation of SOX9, and in other areas not being active (causing the growth of ovarian tissues). Thus, testicular and ovarian tissues will both be present in the same individual.

>>723731400
what about Klinefelter syndrome faggot

>>723730985
I never claimed that retard. There's obviously only two genders and God's mistakes

>>723731502
> genitals determine gender not genetics

what about intersex people?

>>723731584
See
>>723731502

>>723730995

why would you EVER want our original ideas to still be valid? we've learned so much since then. it's foolish to hold on to the past because you're "unwilling" or "refuse". trust me, our ancestors don't care.

a boy is a boy
a girl is a girl
a boy who thinks he is a girl is still a boy
a girl who thinks she is a boy is still a girl

trannies are just faggots

>>723731534
they're scientific definitions with distinct differences within the communities that use them professionally you fucking dolt.

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>>723722858
>wow

>>723731510

there's a difference between physical science and cultural/social science. they're not pretending to be the same, only you are doing that.

>>723731669
You're referring to klinefelter syndrome (XXY) I explained that in the post you're replying too

>>723731580
>citation needed

>>723731669
Historically they're odd women with big clits. Why do we even need a gender?

>>723731704
except "boy" and "girl" are cultural signifiers not objective realities.

>>723731808
No, hardly any in fact.

You dont turn into a girl cause you magically feel like it.

>>723731704

this 4chan post is definitely more factual than peer reviewed social science

>>723731584
But they're still obviously male, faggot. We don't call a young fat male child a woman because he has titties, no facial hair and a small penis.

>>723731817
who decides what the most prominent genitals are? Seems kind of fucking arbitrary eh?

>>723725925
Regardless of whether transsexual 'means' anything to you, there are still just two genders. Trans people just swap over.

>>723731871
Lol OK. Can you back that up with evidence?

>>723731750
>Also thinks sociologist=scientists
Feminists who do social studies don't count

>>723732005
>prominent
No, most developed. That can be established objectively by any doctor

>>723731939
except they're not male, they're genetically independent of the male/female dichotomy. Gender is the social myth that dictates behavior within society. Sex is genetics.

>>723731918
>social science

LOL.

>>723732133
how is that measured? what are the standards?

>>723732005
2 genders, a few mental illnesses and a couple of freaks with penises and vaginas

>>723731871
No, "boy" and "girl" are the English words for those of the male and female gender, typically used for younger children or as slang.

>>723731915

nobody is saying that's what's happening. again, it's really easy to build an argument when you make up the opposing argument

>>723732196
>penis = man
>vagina = woman
Whats not to get here

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this is what someone who thinks there is more than two genders looks like

>>723731918
>peer reviewed
>hey person who already thinks there are a plethora of genders, do you wanna go around asking delusional people if they are disconnected from reality?
>most certainly, fellow left leaning BA degree holder! We will definitely collect empirical data that has no bias at all!

>>723732159

look into it anon, it might do you some good

>>723732048
Gender is about social roles in society. Genetics don't determine that I wear a suit and drive a truck. Those are social norms that society has developed over 20,000 years.

Gender is a meme.

>>723732346
yeah but intersex people have both, thats the whole fucking problem you obstinate fuck.

>>723727208
Too ignorant, stupid.

>>723732368

not what's happening, nice strawman though

>>723732152
But you see, they're prominently a man, with mostly male features. There's no reason to create a new sex/gender for the miniscule percentage of men and women who happen to have a few extra chromosomes. In fact, that's like making a new sex/gender for people with Down's Syndrome.

>>723732196
>are the genitals in question half-forward?
>are they functional?
>which set of genitals requires less correctional surgery?
Do you have an actual argument or are you just trying to tear down facts through Socratic questioning?

>>723732434
>Gender is a meme.
it is now because faggots think there's 200+ genders when there is only 2

>>723732501
Intersex people are too rare to classify as their own gender/sexe

>>723732603
>half-forward
Should read "half-formed"
Fucking autocorrect

>>723732501
It's not natural. It's a birth defect. It's not like 1 in every 1000 babies have both penises and vajoojoos.

>>723732434
>Literally names what defines what suit people wear
Yes, social norms define this. Gender =/= social norms.

>>723732524
So what's happening, aside from 4th dimensional wordplay?

>>723732434

to piggyback off this anon, most people don't have a problem with only having two genders, they have a problem with traditional gender roles. there are men that want to bake without it being a big deal, there are women who want to work in construction without it being a big deal. but that happens and society goes "no you have a penis" or "no you have a vagina"

that's literally not the point

exclude the tumblrinas, every rational person on both sides of the political spectrum hate those people

>>723732434
I believe you're referring to the qualities of being "masculine" or "feminine". These are social constructs, gender is not.

>>723732605
I personally don't ascribe to the 200 gender thing, but I do agree with the current zeitgeist of social theory that gender is a social construct and the binary is simply an outgrowth of physical bifurcation in early humanity. But those former causes for that bifurcation have been pretty much nullified by technological development. So they're anachronistic at this point.

>>723730505
call the number faggot I fucking dare you.
you probably dont even have a fax machine you fag

>>723732882
You are literally retarded if you think a man is a woman because he cooks.

Also see
>>723732885

>>723732882
Do you even read what you type? What the fuck are you on about?

Here is a tip, if you are a faggot kind of a man who likes to bake, do that.
But dont claim your a woman cause your daddy never cared about you

>>723732885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_gender

>>723733098
Men who bake/cook are faggots now? I agree with your last point, but come on now.

>>723731584
Lol I love this. Prevalence of 1 in 500 and higher prevalence in mentally challenged. You are going to have to do better to convince me that a rare defect should cause the categorisation as we know it to change

>>723733113
>posts a user-edited website to refute logic
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

aren't gays mentally ill too?

>>723733113
>wikipedia as a citation

Still in middle school?

>>723733113
Sure, but by these loose definitions, literally every single thing is a social construct. After all, none of these things would have names or even be concepts if we weren't here to describe them.

>>723733113
That article talks about what qualities society ascribed to what gender. That is literally what it means to be masculine or feminine

>>723733267
jesus christ, read it and look at the fucking primary sources you twit. the whole point is to link you to an in depth collection of the argument not to """""Prove""""" anything. God fucking dammit. Could you participate in this conversation with even the slightest bit of good faith? Or are you just going to close your eyes and obstruct instead of listening to the other side?

>>723733442
See
>>723733431

humans are too simple to differentiate between more than two things. the fact that humans think they are smart is our biggest downfall. just because a handful of people throughout history have made interesting discoveries doesn't mean every loser lurking 4chan knows what's going on.

see:

>black and white
>republican and democrat
>man and woman

dualism is not a strength, it's a limitation that is self imposed

>>723733113
I have never seen a link i less want to click on before.
>clicks anyway, sees the talk page
Nothing but how the research is bullcrap.

well done anon

Gays are already mentally ill so that's a bit redundant.

>>723733098

>if you are a faggot kind of a man who likes to bake

you just proved my point lol. this is what people are arguing against.

>>723733215
No but "men" who claim there are more than one gender is.
I bake some mean cinnamon rolls myself.

>>723733402
Sex is a scientific definition. Thats why "intersex" is a thing at all. Scientists have alotted for that difference.

Gender is a social definition.

Thats what the fuck it means. Colloquially the two are combined in common conversation but they're always differentiated in scientific studies for the exact reason that they have different meanings.

>>723728785
How do you know so much about this!? Pls do go on, I'm sure the psychologist I spoke to could learn a lot from you. They clearly had no idea what they were talking about

>>723733431

i think what people are arguing is that women can be masculine and men can be feminine, and that it has nothing to do with what's between your legs

>>723733527
>wikipedia/user sourced material is stupid
>reads comments instead of the studies themselves

fucking nice

>>723733670
You still think sociology is a real science, dont you?

>>723729410
What is real?

>>723733531
It took 150 replies for anyone to mention this? smdh

>>723733670
Wrong, sex=gender. You're referring to being masculine or feminine. That's why we have "masculine" and "feminine" as words

>>723733791

what is your argument against sociology, besides "you still think this?"

>>723733791
yeah philosophy is bullshit too right?

the only thing that reals is engineering cuz I don't disagree with it.

>>723733767
But men still cant be women and women still cant be men boyo. regardless of what you do for fun.

>>723733767
Except that they are literally saying that because they don't like gender rolls they get to flout reality and decide what gender they are. They are wrong

>>723733852
Masculine and feminine are traits attributed to gender.

Penis and vagina are traits attributed to sex.

Because one is social (behavioral)

And the other is genetic (biological)

>>723733672
A lot of people these days have absolutely no clue what they're talking about. Such as yourself. Doesn't surprise me your psychologist is uneducated.

>>723733929

they can be with surgery if they feel like they'd be more comfortable that way. what's the problem with that? is it cuz you're afwaid of people that are different than you?

>>723733988
>rolls
Should be roles. Predictive text.

>>723733873
My argument is that it isn't an actual science. What's your argument?

>>723733988

why does it bother you? are you being affected? you sound incredibly insecure

>>723733873
I'll try tumblr speak:

ItisnotobjECTIVEdata

Sociology is about as credible as Astrology.

>>723733873
Bad science
Often interview based.
Shun statistics
harder to peer review since its often havent got measurable research.
Pretty much always is based upon what the "scientists" wants it to be rather than what he finds.
Oh and ive studied some sociology, i know what fucking hacks sociology professors are. And i also understand why women go feminist at the university.

>>723734018
No. Masculine and feminine are applied to a person regardless of gender, because those qualities don't depend on what's between your legs

>>723734042
>surgery changes chromosomes.
I think they can do whatever the fuck they want. Just dont demand society change to suit their own special kind of mental illness

>>723722530
If he thinks trans are mentally ill gays

What does he think gays are?

>>723734150
Yes, it affects everyone. I don't want my girlfriend peeing beside a 6'2" dude with gorilla arms claiming to be a female. I also don't want to guess their "pronouns" and then get called a bigot when I call a dude a dude.

>>723734150
it affects everyone when we are being forced to call a man a woman or be harassed and lose our jobs because we don't participate in the delusion.

>>723734296
Exactly. Gender has nothing to do with whats between your legs.

>>723734150
Same reason it bothers me when people deny climate change. There are facts of reality and those that ignore them are either delusional or lying.

>>723734018
And the behavioral is strongly and almost exclusively linked back to the biological sex of the person. There is a statistically insignificant portion that display different characteristics and I'll be fucking damned if the make up of society as we know it skills change for a statistical minority with a comorbidity of mental illness

>>723734351
this has never ever happened IRL.

if men wanted to rape women in bathrooms we just would, cuz we have been for fucking ever.

>>723734169
my b, tried slipping the clapping emoji in.

>>723734512
"People act different therefore fuck em"
- a bigot.

>>723734461
>masculinity/femininity =/= gender
>gender=sex
It's like you can't read or something

>>723734465
Sure, the climate is changing. It has been for billions of years. I agree, the climate is changing. But it's not changing the way you think it is. Most people are getting their jimmies rustled over a natural occurrence.

Sex chromosomes determine how you are when you're born, and any faggot shit you wanna do after that is on you. Don't muddle science up because you want an explanation (read:excuse) as to why you enjoy being a faggot.

>>723722530
Im a believer that chromosomes determine gender.

>>723734671
>masculinity/femininity = gender
>sex = genetics

can read just find mate.

>>723734148

have you ever read a sociological study? what makes their statistics and research any different than that of physical sciences? they create a hypothesis, they collect data, they use that data to infer meaning given what is already known. it's harder to study people than it is to study rocks, as each person is different and has different experiences and thoughts and all of that, but i think sociology does a pretty good job at the higher levels.

>>723734535
I never said anything about rape. I said I don't want a dude taking a piss in the lady's washroom when my girlfriend is in the same washroom. It makes them uncomfortable, believe it or not. Jumping to rape for no reason, you want to settle down?

>>723722530
gay = mentally ill

>>723734685
>natural occurance
Sure, in the way that humans are a part of nature. People that don't think humans have an affect on the Earth can't do simple math.

>>723734839
Sure, the research is similar. It's still not a science. What are you trying to argue exactly? Just because I cook a pancake the same way I cook a waffle doesn't mean the pancake is a waffle.

>>723734798
Alright, I'll play by your definitions. If masculinity and femininity are genders then there are still only two of them.

>>723726698
Why even bother wiith these pointless, trite arguments

I could see if people were actually down for discussion but its most a bunch of babbies spouting the same "mental illness" nonsense over and over

Just some stupid fotm shit logic reasoning for pea brains

>>723734658
Ha! Not what I'm saying at all but great debate. There is a very real and practical need for society to be structured to the masses. Not changing pervasive structures such as male and female for every statistical minority is critical for its function. If that makes me a bigot then great name call all you want

>>723734175

if you stufy the physical sciences throughout history i think you'll find the things you mentioned. just because it's newer and younger in the academic sense doesn't mean it's not a valid approach to understanding life. we should learn from bad sociology, not condemn the entire practice for it.

>>723734895
Humans are part of nature. Unless of course you're talking about our intelligence, or perhaps our technology? Either way, humans are a part of nature whether you like it or not. Of course humans have an affect on the Earth, you climate change enthusiasts are just taking it way too far. Are you the same kind of guy that believes the world is going to run out of natural resources and be a wasteland in 30-40 years from now?

>>723734427

are you being forced? or is this just blind conjecture?

>>723735111
Sure i believed that too, until i found out they shunned positivs and hailed post-structuralism as a deity.
Its nothing but theology that fakes being a science

>>723734346
Lmao this

>>723734351
Voted for trump

>>723734953

i made my argument already. i'm not saying a pancake is a waffle. but a liege waffle and a belgian waffle are both waffles. they use the same waffle iron, and the sciences use the same method.

>>723735010

but do each gender only and always conform to each sex? are all men only masculine and are all women only feminine? this is where your argument breaks down.

>>723735180
You have no reading comprehension, or understanding of environmental science. The Earth will never "run out" of anything, we'll simply reach the point where it takes a barrel of oil to get a barrel of oil. We would have hit this point around 2050 or 2100 or so, but fracking has greatly added to our fuel reserves, so we won't need to worry about running out of recoverable fossil fuels anytime soon. That said, you can do the math on how much CO2 is released into the carbon cycle from burning all those fossil fuels. Any idiot should be able to figure out that when an equilibrium is disrupted to the extent that we've disrupted it that you can expect a massive change in the system.

>>723735447

>they

oh poor anon. not everyone is the same. i'm sorry you had a bad experience but don't let that inform your entire worldview.

>>723735472
I'm Canadian but I would have voted for Trump given the chance. You 'muricans should be grateful you finally got a decent president.

>>723736082
Like your relationship with your dad im guessing

>>723736012

>using up literally limited resources

>will never run out

yeah because gasoline that goes into a car comes out as gasoline when it's used

>>723736011
No, this is where your argument breaks down for gender not being a synonym for sex. Are you asserting that a man who identifies himself as a man cannot be feminine? If yes, you're the enemy of the side you claim to be representing. If no, then gender is a synonym for sex.

The only reason "gender" exists as a word is because the Victorian's felt that "sex" was too dirty a work for polite conversion

>>723736281

i loved my dad. he died two years ago to kidney cancer. we were really close. what i loved about him was that we had vastly different views but even if we'd argue we'd still love each other at the end of it. he would never resort to shitty statements like yours when he was out of arguments. i miss talking to him.

>>723722530
why does he need takers....
hes right

>>723736314
Your so stupid you dont understand supply and demand. Humans adapt dumbfuck. If we wanted we could have cheap methanol cars. But there is no profit in it. Yet. For example

>>723736483
Jeus what a shallow fake fuck you are. Im guessing fat aswell

>>723736532

*you're

we adapt by stopping before we run out when we think something is a problem. not by waiting and seeing.

>>723736314
>literally no reading comprehension
The oil will always be there. We will reach a point where we have to burn as much or more oil to get at it. At this point we will have "run out", but the resource is still there; underground and economically unrecoverable.

>>723735337
Yes, I am. Just because a S.W.A.T. team doesn't break into a coffee shop when I say "Pardon me mam", doesn't mean that the woman I refer to won't shout and bitch about being mislabeled. Then there's social pressure. Some pinko gets up and plays activist so that they can cause a scene. In the current political climate, offending someone automatically makes you a Nazi. And, since liberals are so self righteous, they believe that once you open up about being a bigot, they can do anything short of physically harm you. And that boundary is already dissolving.

>>723736615

i'm 6'2" and about 190. i wouldn't consider myself fat, but i'm not a stick. great talk dude. have fun being angry and presumably alone tonight.

>>723736669

you realize you're the one playing the snowflake card here right?

>i don't want to have to treat people how they want

>everyone should treat me how i want

go back to your safe space

>>723736734
>6'2"
>190 lbs

Jesus you're one lanky fuck.

>>723736635
>grammar nazi autist

Lol that has never happened, we adapt when we must when a new situation arises. usually through competition-

>>723736876

i'm not too bad, i'm not ripped though. the gymrat lifestyle is gross to me.

>>723736870
uh...

So you're telling me being labelled as a Nazi and being psychically assaulted because of that label is the same as accidentally calling a transfaggot a dude?

This is why you always lose the argument.

>>723736907

lol you're the one who called me dumb and didn't bother proofreading your post in the same sentence. i type in all lowercase with sometimes poor punctuation. how does that make me a grammar nazi? i was just making a point

>>723737153
It makes you a faggot.

>>723737066

how many people have called you a nazi in real life vs. online? or has anyone? are you passing off other people's stories as your own? how would you know they're telling the truth?

sounds like you're looking to confirm your own bias over actually seeking truth

>>723737233

/clap

where can we send your argument participation trophy?

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>>723737066
>psychically assaulted
beeyooweeooo

>>723737301
How old where you when you found out you had Asperger?

>>723728255
The moment you started stating the phrase "educate yourself" you lost this entire argument buddy. You tell people not to link YouTube videos because those are only made for a certain demographic, but here you are doing the same shit with some article.

>>723737252
Regardless of how many people called me a Nazi in real life vs online is irrelevant. You think addressing a transfaggot with the wrong pronoun is worse than physical assault.

>>723736011
Statistically significantly throughout the numerous and unrelated civilizations in human history.

>>723736390
>>723736011
>mental illness BTFO
>again

>>723737473

alright i'm bored of you, the retorts started ok but now they're just lazy

have a good night anon, godspeed

>>723737681

i never said i think that. you said i think that. and i don't believe anybody has physically assaulted you for addressing a trans person in a way they didn't prefer.

>>723738188
>confirmed autist

>>723738346

it's rare that you see posters describe themselves

>>723722530
He's a bit blunt but I actually agree and there is evidence to back up that transexuals and homosexuals are technically created by certain incorrect genes and mental problems.

Can't be arsed to source, just google it.

>>723738397
skillful retort. Don't you have some genders to claim that they do exists?

>>723738306
>I have no reading comprehension and want to make it your problem

>>723738551
Samefag here: Also want to add I legit have nothing against either, but we gotta face facts too.

>>723722530
He's mostly right. Not necessarily gay, but definitely mentally ill.

>>723722530
They are people born before their time, before science can let them easily live as they desire.

In such a world, nobody would see it as a mental disease.

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>>723722530

Genetics: You are either XX or XY. This determines how your brain and body develops.

Biology: Your gonads are either Ovaries or Testes. This determines which reproductive cells you produce.

Secondary Sex characteristics: You have a Penis or you have a Vagina.

Sexual Identity: You Identify as either Male of Female

Sexual Preference: You like other Males or other Females

Just imagine how things turn out for people who end up with a disorder [spoiler](like androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS))[/spoiler] in one or more of these categories!

https://jenapincott.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/when-the-perfect-woman-is-genetically-male/

Pic Related BTW

>>723739578
He looks like the average twink at any gay bar, just with longer hair and breast implants

>>723722530
i 100% agree. trans people are fucked in the head.

>>723739262
>there is no procedure to turn a man into a fertile woman
>there is no procedure to turn a woman into a fertile man
It's like you're retarded or something

>>723738670
>this
Why can't fags accept their gender and simply ask that society accept that they like to wear dresses?

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Women are only needed for reproduction, their genetics dont even hold much information, its the y chromosome that holds the most information.
The x chromosome only holds 16000 basepairs and the y has 3,3 million providing most of the genetic information.

The male nuclear y chromosome only mutates 0,3 % per generation (the older you get the more mutation).
This is why we used to have male upon son inheritance to ensure the bloodline and genetic identity.

Most countries in the world still know this but the west forgot and is quickly losing their genetic identity because men dont have male offspring any more and are invaded by other y chromosome linages that on top of have dominance on the maternal linage because they are inbred.

>>723722530
Irrelevant in a free society. Unless this faggot wants some christian sharia law. Conservatards love to be cucked by their illustrious leader. Mental illness is defined by negative effects on your own life. If a tranny is happy then you have no right to change their life. Tough shit in the land of the free.

>>723741522
and by happy i mean 'pursuing happiness'
pretty big difference frankly

>>723740321
There is no procedure to turn an infertile woman into a fertile woman. Fertility is not the determinant in assigning gender.

>>723722660
>feminine penis

>>723741426
>Repeating nonsense, made-up genetics
>Thinks he's really showing that he's smart

>>723741807
No, but the vast majority of people are fertile from birth. If you must trade your fertility for "gender reassignment" then your gender hasn't been reassigned, you've simply undergone cosmetic surgery

>>723725925
The word has no merit to its meaning, because such a thing will never exist its just what mentally ill gay pussies made up.

Not accepting what u got(addiction) is a mental illness

>>723722660
/Thread

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>>723741944
Its not made up you filthy kike

>>723741522
>>723741688
No takers? Dubs dont lie.

>>723744450
Irrelevant to the conversation. "Muh feelings" is an opinion.

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>>723741426
Uneducated retard.

>>723744622
Yeah and saying trans people have a mental illness is an unfounded 'feeling.' Illogical and literally retarded.

>>723744764
Except that being "transexual" objectively does not line up with reality. Don't we call people who can't accept reality "mentally ill"

OP here, write faggot in pic