Tor tips? Is it safe? Should I download it? Good way to buy drugs?

Step one is stop being a fucking nigger

>>723714243
you are fucking dumb.. why would you fucking do that. do you even know how to to hide your shit. its not safe at all

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Install Gentoo Linux Anon

>>723714513
/thread

>>723714608
>This
Or Kali Link

>>723714713
Kali. For Tor. Really?
Best and easyest you can do is Whonix

>>723714243
Why would you want drugs? Go outside, find a job, get a girlfriend, make money for the pigs and stop being a fucking faggot.

>>723715132
This is the most retarded thing I've read on this site in a long time.

>>723714817
Tails

>>723715224
Welcome, newfriend

>>723714713
Linux*

>>723714817
Not for Tor jackass for security on connection
Obviously you're a fucking whitehat, you wouldn't know about ISP sniffing

>>723715132
What a fucking normie

Nice try pedoscum.

>>723715132
looks like you're the faggot faggot

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>>723714243
>downloading Tor
>2017

Lol.

>>723715518
Does the second faggot cancel out the first faggot?
Faggot faggot = ___

>>723714243
Just don't trust anyone, think of everything as a scam

Nothing is safe unless you dial in through a prepaid mobile phone and throw it away afterwards.

Fuck Kali Linux.

It is a skid OS.

Really, ParrotSec is sort of skiddish but has Iceweasel/AnonSurf built in along with PGP and programming tools.

5x - 10x better than gay ass Kali.

Get Tails or Parrot, Persistent live USB

Also, fuck whitehats.

Only use 4-5 star Alphabay/Valhalla drug vendors.

Do not Silk Road 3.0

>>723715828
What's wrong with SR 3.0?

>>723715899
Scams and raids.

Also some Ketamine issues.

I used it for cheeze a while back (before normies shut down hardcandy website)
Its not safe at all i factory reset my computer after every use

>>723714243
probably the best way to buy drugs and safe if you read up a couple of tutorials

>>723715899
Plus SR has metallic flavored blotters galore. Don't trust that shit at all.

>>723714243
If your concern and don't know what your doing, I highly recommend not to consider it.

>>723716033
Tutorial links?

>>723715540
>not using a VPN to hide Tor usage
Ishie-giddit

>>723715828
Whitehat for money, blackhat for Fun
Why not combine both?

>>723716002
Found the pedo faggot.

Fags like you are why I stopped using Tor.

Too many ped faggots on Tor and all the random ParaZite links leading to ped shit.

>>723716002
retard
they can still retrieve files

>>723716179
Greyhat here, hack for lulz and help people with security flaws after exploiting them.

>>723715828
Kali is literally top tier Linux build, give me one flaw with its structure

I agree with the rest anon, Silk is a fucking skid site, use Dunkin Donuts

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>>723714243
Tor is far from safe but safe enough for some uses.
Tor has crippling vulnerabilities that can only be remedied with the complete removal of the tor resources and starting a new project from scratch.

A good amount of all Tor Exit providers have been approached and asked to work for a certain security service provider.
The number of people who just gave in is hard to tell.
Almost everyone working in the top echelon of Tor is also employed at the CIA or NSA. (No shit, just google it yourself)

>>723716165
VPN before Tor, New friends at your door, goyim

>>723716353
Not a real greyhat obviously

>>723716179
Whitehats are the whiteknights for scriptmonkeys

Blackhats are all gone these days

Greyhats don't fucking exist anymore because you're still a day for being a whitehat

>>723716368
So, in your opinion, what's going to happen to the people who took the bait?

I'm asking for a friend.

>>723716364
Literally, so many skids get Kali and act like hackers.

Got ratted by some homosex faggot using SQLMap and calling me a kid because I thought I had a game trainer and had some fag's rat.

Doxxed him and his family, put his dox up everywhere.

I have nothing against Kali, per se.

Just the fact every 6/10 people with it are skids boasting the mlg 1337 h4x.

>>723716538
I do malicious shit without provocation and I help people when I want to.

That is literally grey

>>723716620
the majority of people will end up in prison if they don't live on the move and favour usability/convenience over security
which is, dunno how to put it, I only know of one person who favors security over usability and that person is not me

depending on the crime they want to prepare they will be in deep shit if they live at a single location they can not easily switch

I use a VPN and TAILS, but am wondering if anyone on here has any experience with HORNET?

>>723714243
You have to assert your dominance when your on so when you do get on be a total duck to everyone

Weakerthan (Lynx Text Browser)
Blackarch (Stylometry and Digital Footprint Reduction)
Whonix (DNS Leaks impossible)
Tails (Indistinguishable psuedonymity)
Kali (Versatility and stability)
ParrotSec (Cryptography, Forensic carving, more fortified Kali, program creation friendly, overall apperance)

My two cents on best attributes of some pentest/anonymity distros.

>>723716878
That's a lot of people you're talking about. I remember hearing high school kids wanting to check it out to look up pedo material. I guess it's possibly but hard for me to imagine the state would ruin so many lives over something so petty.

>>723716912
No, but I have heard about it.

What do you guys think of SIGAINT?

Secure for online harassment or no?

>>723714243
>stopusingwindows.lepaganman
>replace with any standard linux distribution
>buy a VPN service (in case the Feds use your Tor traffic as justification for a warrant) that doesn't keep logs
>either DL virtualbox and set up a Whonix VM or make a TAILS live USB
>be sure to route Tor traffic through the VPN
>change Tor privacy settings to High
>forbid all scripts via NoScript (preinstalled in Tor)
>cover webcam and mic with tape, also delete webcam/mic drivers and disable them in BIOS
>use PGP encryption where applicable
>don't DL anything sketchy off of .onion sites
>keep your clearnet identity separate from your darknet ones (and don't make yourself identifiable from .onion to .onion)
>use Common Sense Antivirus 2017
>hide behind seven proxies

Have any /b/ros found out if Hell Reloaded was legit?

>>723714243
stop being fucken gay and do some reseach
tor on Linux is much more secure than windows
tails is best and most recommended since everything is done on ram
now do some fucken research on what pgp and encryption is because if you don't know what the either of those are than you are fucken retarded
next get some bitcoins but don't use anything that can be tracked to your name, the best way is to mine them directly but if your dumb as fuck your not gonna be able to do that
so some how get some coins and tumble them so they don't connect to your name
do some fucken research is the most I can say since its too much info to type
fuck you for be dumb faggot retard nigger cuck

>>723717659
You forgot spoof MAC and use SOCKS5 web application proxy w/ VPN.

Also forgot to use HTTPS only and to block HTML5 and Flash Cookies.

i doubt its safe now

>>723714243
Quick question, are you in the UK?

If so, just use budmail and an anonymous payment card you can get online. Sure, they can come to your door if they find it en route, but all you need to say is "i didnt order that" and you're fine as anyone could order a package to your door.

OP

If you are a pedo, kill yourself.

If you want to hack:
Kali or Parrotsec Encrypted Persistent Live USB, no HDD installations.

If you want drugs,
Tails > Electrum Bitcoin Wallet + PGP

Make a key, go to 5 star vendor who uses PGP, write message, encrypt, dm him/her.

Use Alphabay/Valhalla

If you want to card, buy some fullz from Newt. lol and kude offer carsing lessons.

Hey don't use Tor is is no longer safe
The FBI has a NIT program that can give them access to you IP. They are not divulging the source code either. I think they will use this if your a Pedro or druggo I would not risk it.

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>>723718455
>all star criminal lawyer
>jus' say "i didnt order that"

>>723714243
Silk road died x3, so gotta be very skeptical

>>723717888
now download your fucken tor on whatever distro you use
use a vpn as well for extra security vpn's are like condoms for networking
runn tor enable noscript make sure its up date disable all plugin shit that can track blah blah blah
now lets find a market to buy some fucken drugs
hidden wiki will get you started but is otherwise shit and should be used all the time fucken scams all the time on it
find a trustworthy market that has good reviews
signup to that market DON'T USE THE FUUCKEN SAME NAME YOU USE ON CLEARNET or else your fucken account can be traced back to you
now deposit some coins into your account, you should know how to do this if your not a fucken inbred shit
now look for some good shit
make escrow is there
escrow allows that if the seller is shit they don't get your coins but you don't get your coins either so its mutual agreement to deliver
research escrow if you don't fucken understand
make your fucken order now wait for your order
I should also so ship to a PO box for better security and not your own house of ship to an abandoned house USE YOUR FUCKEN HEAD TO DECIDE
now you got some good drugs easy

>>723715828
>Fuck Kali Linux
.
True that anon...

Parrot sec lithium is pretty nice.

But still, TAILS is going to win every time.

>>723715241
This on live usb only

I hate using Tor now because pedestrians.

Then you can even fuck wih people on VPN now thanks to Mr. Carrotman or Obongo.

So personally, idk what to tell you other than don't do whatever you do nearby your city.

Live USBs, Virtualbox, and PGP are your friends though.

>>723718866
Yo nig I did not order dat I don't smoke da coke

>>723718972
True.

I love Lithium so much but it is literally like Glitch with new wallpapers or something.

>>723717659
>>723716469


Please reconcile this.

nigger

>>723719093
Got one better than that

>Say you got doxxed
>This guy wanted you to get swatted
>Not your drugs

>>723719329
VPN to Tor, Bad.

Tor to VPN, good.

Tor + NordVPN
Tor first, VPN second

>>723719200
Yeah, I have a bachelor's in cryptography (basically fucking useless) and I prefer lithium to any other distro.

Manjaro and Gentoo are pretty nice too if you need the hardware support. I rebuilt my PC so it doesn't need those bells and whistles...

Admittedly, I run windows 10 on a laptop I own, and I do really like that they implemented BASH with the linux support tools.

>>723716711
I've only used Kali for buying on DW
I did do wifi spoofing since my wifi was out

I do admit edgy fags use Kali more now since it was on Mr. Robot

Kek mad haxs

>>723716831
That's called being a fag

>>723719927
Kali is basically useless unless you're a professional pen tester. Feel bad man.

>>723719686
Nice.

Is anything better than AES-256?

>>723715241
This. Combine it with an no log VPN which is not located in USA, Canada or EU.

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>>723715353
>*Sniff* obviously a whitehat, you wouldn't know about ISP sniffing"

How I know you're not a hacker, and in fact an idiot implying they are:
1. You think Kali is best solution for anything security related. This is a massive red flag.

2. You're throwing around terms like whitehat to sound like you know something -- but you don't. Because if you did, you'd know that part of a whitehat's job is to know and protect against all vulnerabilities.

3. ISP Sniffing -- What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Are you talking about how an ISP can recognize TOR traffic or are you stupid enough to think your ISP can 'decrypt' your TOR traffic if you're not using a specific Linux distro?

4. Kali isn't configured to be a hardened system that is unhackable -- it's configured to be the system that has all the basic tools you might need to do some testing.


You may now shit yourself.

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>>723719927
>not using reaver to hack other's routers

>>723720316
It depends on what you're using it for... AES is definitely the king of symmetric encryption. But two-way communication is nearly impossible. Which also makes it secure.

If you wanted to communicate two-ways the NTRU is the king encryption standard, then I think the block cipher, RSA, PGP, and ECC are great methods as well.

The University of Sussex is building a large scale quantum computer now, so learning the QKD would be a good idea before they start taking off.

>>723715353
What do you mean with security in Connection? Traffic is ssl encrypted. If you use additional VPN its eben aes-128 bit encrypted

Normies need to use TAILS and a VPN (nordvpn, torguard, airvpn, hidemyass -- the paid version). Read how to use GPG, nobody wants to deal with you getting tagged and having half of their shipments gone.

Use Alphabay or Hansa, and remember the vendors aren't trying to scam you. The pitiful amount of money you're thinking of spending isn't worth the headache of dealing with retards on the internet.

>>723714513
GOT HIM xDDD USING NIGGER AS AN INSULT FUCKING COMEDY GOLD

>>723721002
General best text clipboard encryption

And chat encryption for Skype

>>723715540
Muh freedom

>>723721084
Mullvad and R4aw VPN missing for a reason or no?

>>723721029
>Most traffic is SSL encrypted
FTFY

>>723721084
Gnu Privacy Guard is amazing... If you have the cash available, then Steganos Privacy Suite would be my recommendation.>>723721029

>>723721084
>Recommending HMA in 2017

>>723715828
Valhalla comprimised, owners arrested

>>723721643
Really

What the fuck is that about.

HMA changed from HideMyAss to FoundYourAss.

>>723721084
wat 4 fuk

>>723721237
Then yeah, go for AES unless you're sharing the text clipboard or the Skype chat on a network, then I would just use RSA.. If you use AES then you're required to share the key to each person on the network, however if you use RSA then that's done automatically.

>>723721775
Verdammt.

Now I have to make an Alphabay account.

When was this?

>>723721775
Nobody reads about the Magneto Exploit, it seems.

>>723721866
Thanks anon.

Do you know what grade of encryption Android uses for phones?

>>723721388
I just listed off a few that I most commonly see.

>>723721578
correcthorse.webm GPG is much more secure than some of the bullshit like BCPG windows applications both in terms of privacy and security.

>>723721643
>>723721855
explain, haven't heard of any problems

>>723722035
Not even 2 days ago. The site is still up but that doesn't mean LEO isn't gathering info right now

>>723715353
Kali is one of the worst choices of an oob Tor experience, unless you're taking about using proxychains with Tor and VPNs, but that can be accomplished on other distros easily, without the annoying and insecure root defaults for everything.

>>723714243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTFprATZkVU

>>723722370
only true mutaharians know how to stay safe from the deep web

>>723722219
I have no idea what they specifically use for phone encryption. I know that the current standard for SMS is PDU though... So I would guess they use an internal algorithm to encrypt that data.

They used Knox and Signal as platforms a while ago, not sure if they still do.

>>723715241
Tails is backdoored. Might as well use windows.

>>723722622
>>>>tails is backdoored

>>723722338
Dude, people have been arrested because of HMA.

Are they going to arrest Valhalla account owners?

>>723722338
Yeah for sure. My bias with SPS is data shredding tbh. I use GPG for most other things though.

>>723722849
Since when?

>>723716002
Which is pointless you fucking cunt. Try sound professional you you know how deleated works

is orbot safe anons?

>>723722849
>>723722956
Every time firefox updates and you click "remind me later"

>>723723008
I will never help a pedofag.

But I agree with this guy.

Your deleting didn't do shit.

>Be me
>Be underage at time
>Sext a girl same age as me
>Picture still in device
>Oh fuck me
>Wipe with multipass wipes
>install whole new OS
>Never use a drive.

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>>723716002
>factory reset

>>723723443
There are ways to avoid that but since the OP is a sick fag, not going to discuss it

>>723722849
It is. That's why snowden no longer uses it.

>>723723561
I know right, how does one factory reset a computer

That guy is dumb. Formatting never works.

>>723722879
They can't arrest someone for just having an account. They can intercept incoming orders and fuck with customers until they can find out who some of the vendors are. Large enough quantities might get customers arrested, though.

>>723723682
>implying snowden said this

Shit that never happened for 600, Alex

>>723723821
Oh good.

I was trying to buy credit cards. long ago. kek

07495583364 call me?

>>723722849

I have news for you. Nothing is perfectly secure. Everything has 0 days and exploits. The key is to be the hardest needle to find in the stack of needles. You will never be secure against a nation state adversary - it is the only circumstance where security through obscurity is the best option - use the monolithic sluggishness and red tape of the government against itself.

>>723723715
>be anon
>elite hacker
>FBI can't find me because I delete my browser history

>>723723957

To add onto this, it's great that Tor and all this other shit is becoming mainstream, because it plays into the benefit of everyone with shit to do. Everyone else's sloppiness works in your benefit because they are easier, juicier targets. You WANT an endless supply of chaff and cannon fodder to be there to distract from what you're doing.

>>723724283
Until you are are juicier target than someone else

>>723723042
Not for doing illegal things. So no, not even a little bit. Think about it, your phone is either the google botnet or the apple data farm. You cannot hide from it regardless of what services you use on your phone.

folks this is depressing af
i mean, i need to get into networking shit anyhow sooner or later but i really dont want to spend like ages before i can even dare to buy some drugs.

>>723724590

Crime fighters don't actually want to end crime. They would be obsoleting themselves. They want to do just enough work to sustain themselves so that they can perpeutate the organization. They will even create opportunities for crime if they run out of fires to fight. So they take down all the easy targets, maybe try to make a big bust every once in a while if they get bored.

The goal is to not draw a ton of attention to yourself.

>>723724191
kek

>>723724747
set-up a tails flash drive, take it to the library, reboot computer, buy drugs, shut down system, leave

if u want complete absolute security you should use whonix inside of qubes os

>>723724693

Anyone who does anything illegal on their phone is a fucking asshat. Mobile devices are not secure in any way, shape, or form. The only exception is Signal and even then that is easily compromisable despite Signal being a great app because phones are a garbage can full of exploits

>>723723957
>You will never be secure against a nation state adversary
I've pranced around Russian security services before. Honestly they put themselves out there, but they drop stitches with every fucking thing tehy do. The only thing a state actor has going for it is hypothetically volume. You'd be surprised at how often they still miss the mark, really beyond Stuxnet its mostly been a matter of snatching opportunity when it does present itself, and lucking out on finding security holes. Which they can still litter all over, especially with the aforementioned quite often there's no security at all until there's a major, publicly visible breach and then they *might* take a look at it.

>>723724960
seems kinda sensible ... although video surveillance or what? not that i'd assume they spend much of an effort to screw some random drug user. still.

>>723725176
go outside a mcdonalds or somewhere like that with wifi, and use a laptop with no drives and a usb drive.

>>723724747
You mean like two weeks to read a few man pages and understand them to set up a bitcoin wallet and a GPG identity? You don't need to know that much, just get TAILS or Qubes and keep them updated.

Also read everything from whonix and tor so you don't fuck yerself.

It's sort of like, I don't need to know the exact science why smoking and drinking are unhealthy, but I just need to have good sources that tell me I'm less likely to get cancer and liver damage if I stop doing it.

>>723725176
The chances of constant video monitoring at the library is pretty slim, I'd say. Not even federal buildings have continuous surveillance.

>>723725351
doesn't really work for me that way with computers unfortunately, these shitters scare the fuck out of me.

>>723725351
Or he could use a fresh system, make up a bunch of contact information, setup a level 1 SSL with protonmail or something, sign his ip WHOIS with that SSL and buy drugs straight from windows vista

>>723725351
what man pages though? i kind of am afraid i don't know where to start and i figure i can't trust some random "tutorial" i might find via google

>>723725075

since you're clearly not an idiot, do you have any ideas on how to launder money between the 4 to 6 digit range?

>>723725776
dont go through anywhere in asia right now. the chinese are ripping people off raw.

>>723725776
Have you tried microtransactions with btc

>>723725776
I'm an engineer, not an accountant. But set up a home run store maybe and make orders to yourself? Idunno, are you moving it somewhere? Is it going to be a regular thing?

ISO Writing:
dd if=/home/home/pretend_this_is tails_i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M

Persistence Writing:
~Enter GParted
~Make /dev/sdb3 partition in /dev/sdb
~sdb3 = 3rd /sdb partition
~make partition fat32

mkfs.ext3 -L persistence /dev/sdb3
e2label /dev/sdb3 persistence

mkdir -p /mnt/my_usb
mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/my_usb
echo "/ union" > /mnt/my_usb/persistence.conf
umount /dev/sdb3

Rip out hard drive, use Tails USB, replace RAM every 30 boots, use laptop at fast food place

Buy drugs on Alphabay

>>723720354
>combine tor with a vpn
What's the point then? If each identity is routed through the same vpn then they're trivial to connect and track

>>723726608
VPN hides that you use Tor?

Seriously Obfs4 bridges exist

>>723724870
This explains honeypotting.

>>723720354
EU depending on jurisdiction is actually a good choice. Denmark/Germany/Netherlands/France area is legally bound to respect encryption and doesn't humor requests to subvert its regular due process. Some like UK have local litigation clashing with this with in their case the RIPA acts (equiv. of Patriot act for this purpose)

You want to roll the dice on a banana republic don't be surprised if they fold on you.

Tor is decent if your entire street is using it lol

>>723724870
And how does one not draw attention?

Tor is a game of Jenga.

>>723726818
In what scenario would the benefit of a vpn outweigh the loss of anonymity?

>>723726608
> Implying hundred of other people dont use their Identities with vpn

>>723726818
If anon just calls the Russian hackers then anon can use their top notch proxy servers and become Clinton

>>723725018
What if people replace their phones?

>>723726225

I'm not trying to hide money. I just need to be able to explain where I got it to the government.

>>723726484

I was considering hiring myself as something, but that's just passing the buck to myself down the line, right?

>>723726576
Why replace RAM?

>>723727042
I think you missed the "no log" part of VPN

>>723727042
I don't know.

I merely theorized.

I think it keeps the ISP at bay

>>723727090
Can't you just register as a self-employed person selling some tchotchkes online from home and then make up invoices that say you sent out products that never existed?
You'll need to sink some money into the VAT and income tax though.

>>723726608
I dont understand what you mean. Why would there an difference between vpn and own IP? Its just more nodes? Pls explain

>>723727085

The way smartphones work on a fundamental level is insecure. There's nothing you can do about it short of having an organization manage every last detail for you. Even if your shit is encrypted, even if you use all the right apps, there's still big gaping holes everywhere. That's what the huge deal about Hillary / Trump using their own phones is all about.

>>723727093
Tails writes to RAM only and uses one zero-fill pass on shutdowm.

Best to replace RAM cards, just to be secure.

Costly, but helpful.

Not that I would know. I don't use Tails illegally.

>>723714243
THAT AIN'T SAFE YOU DUMB FUCK.

>>723726945
So what would you say are the best 5 countries? Are there vpn in North Korea?

>>723727337
I understand that.

How will they untrash a phone though?

>>723727090
Ah... If you know an accountant you can have them file books for you if you pay for a small business license. I'm sure there are guys for sale on the deep web for that too. As long as you pay the taxes on the money and can provide a paper trail there shouldn't be a problem.

>>723727300

Sounds like a pretty good idea!

>>723727049
>>723727312
The idea behind tor though is that you reroute your connection frequently so even the events of a single session is impossible/hard to track as a logically concurrent session. Running it all through a vpn creates a common point to track from.

>>723727222
Logs aren't the only threat and besides, 'no log' doesn't mean no logs.

>>723727565
There are, but you would need a Korean SSN to access anything in North Korea.

>>723727446
Maybe im too stupid but doesnt RAM only save as long as it has power? So doesnt data get deleted with every shutdown?

>>723727627

The point is that it's very easy to have an exploit that just screengrabs everything you do via screen recording or hijacks your keyboard like a keylogger. By the time you've thrown away your phone, the attacker already has everything they needed. They don't need your phone, they need you to have done things they can see on it.

>>723727830
Yes and no. The data gets "deleted" but it's still recoverable until it's overwritten.

>>723727927
Fuck..

That is bad then.

>>723727776

almost quads for truth. The whole point of tails is that it's portable. A VPN can never compare to just using a public network or even better, stealing someone else's internet and framing the connections as coming from them.

>>723727776
If you use an VPN isnt it just like you would replace your own ID with the VPN one? So the mechanism would be the same only that you have one more node between you and adversary?

>>723728271
Until your MAC address shows up

>>723728265

Even Tails can be vulnerable to this. This is why Tails comes with Florence - in case you suspect your computer may have a vulnerable BIOS.

These are all valuable tools that the investigative powers that be will only use sparingly, and only for parallel construction, however, you really gotta make it worth it for the spy men to use tools like this on you.

For further reading: https://medium.com/message/everything-is-broken-81e5f33a24e1#.g9f2a0zc9

http://gxamjbnu7uknahng.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

uncensored hidden wiki

click the links there at your peril

>>723728416
use that tool in kali to change your MAC

>>723728416

Tails spoofs MAC addresses by default. Anyone who doesn't do that on Tails is a fuckhead and I'm glad they're there so they can get caught instead of me

>>723714243
This was one of the best threads ob 4chan ive read so far. Good discussion and people dont talk bullshit

Best bet: move to china. VPN heaven.

>>723728993
That's because you're not competent enough to distinguish the good advice from the bullshit (of which there's a lot ITT, and it's hilarious seeing these criminal morons getting themselves jailed).

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>>723728696
oh my dat fucking yung pussyyyy

i stoped using tor a week ago since new fingerprint code thing was added/found.

now i'm kind of confused - this notion of using vpns to use tor via them pops up a lot. why exactly is it a bad idea?
as far as i understand it would mean yo contact the entry node via the vpn and threrefore have just one more layer of obscurity on your ip. why doesn't that work out quite that way?

>>723717450
Depends.

Cheese depends on how much information they obtain. If they can only get 100 users ID's off a site of 3k users, they'll target the downloaders/uploaders.

If they get 3k in a 3k user site, they'll likely target uploaders.

With drugs, it's different, literally only sellers have to worry unless you are buying massive amounts constantly. Buyers aren't worth it over such bullshit, they just confiscate the package, and send you a letter.

All this is shit I've read, so I very well could be wrong. What is interesting is that there was a case in 2015? Where the FBI hosted a child porn site, after confiscating it, and got a bunch of users. However, most cases were thrown out because they wouldn't provide the security exploit used to get the perpetrators information.

I'd also say, at any given time, if you are downloading illegal material, and they knock on your door, if nothing is on your PC or in your house, you are probably going to walk. However, if you have an encrypted file on your PC, they'll hold you indefinitely until you give them the password.

Don't do illegal shit, but if you get a knock and you didn't do anything, that gives me orgasms to think about the legal nightmare that would be for the justice department, can you sue? How much would you get for being labeled falsely as a beastiality guy, or pedophile? Those are extremely damaging labels, I'd bet multi millions.

>>723728686
Eh,

Never worked for me.

But then I have nothing to hide.

I just explored clean, not bad, darknet pages.

>>723729434
Nowhere near enough to fix your rep.

>>723714243
Didn't you watch that "Deep Web" documentary??
The Gub'mint got's that shit cracked wide open.

>>723730406
Link or full title?

if you want to do illegal shit on the dark net whats wrong with tails? boot it live on some POS used laptop you paid cash for. if you're into seedy shit idk if you wanna be using your home wifi. go sit at a mcdonalds, sorry "Mc Cafe"

>>723728354
The problem is that a VPN is never 100% trustworthy. They're far more susceptible to eavesdropping and man-in-the-middle attacks and also almost guaranteed keeps logs of your traffic.

>>723730490
>"Deep Web" documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvC9oDlT8mM

>>723730781
Thank you.

>>723729942
Right, if you are falsely accused of rape or pedophelia, you are permanently fucked.

Your family will forever distrust you, if you have children, it'll start a shitstorm, there are so many negative affects, that no amount of money could really repair it, well..maybe like 10 million, but still, unless you have a shit family, not worth it.

Even worse, you may get NOTHING. I think you can be accused of a crime you didn't commit without receiving monetary compensation for loss of wages/emotional distress.

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So what is the safest way to use Tor if you're browsing naughty things?

ive ordered really good MDA off of the DN before. it was a vendor who operated in my country which made things a lot less sketchier (canada). id order from him again, i just hate dealing with BTC

>>723730977

Search tor in google.

Search want to use tor for illegal things in google.

Go to fbi.gov

Send anonymous tip asking how

Post email to reach you at

I'm sure they will help you shortly, don't be surprised if it takes some time. Their customer service is sub par.

>>723730977
2nd hand laptop, TAILs, public wi-fi

>>723731762
faggot

the whonix page suggests you cannot use free wifi spots with tor browsers. why is that?

>>723731798
>fbi kick in door
>we need to see your USB stick pls

wat do

>>723731816
It's what I did. They even came over to help me set it up, I showed them my collection and they let me stay in their very own private resort while they set it up for me. They even gave me my own private security detail, they come and check in every couple hours, real nice guys, bring me food and drinks. They even have a nice fence to keep the riff raff out.

Any day now they'll be back with my laptop...any day now.

>>723725684
the darknetmarkets reddit has good information in the sidebar
there's also a subreddit for noobs

Just read up and learn, it does seem challenging at first but it's really not all that complicated. Just a lot of material to go through depending on your needs.

>>723731981
microwave

most of these questions can be answered on a DN site called HIDDEN ANSWERS. look for it, they're a good place to go if you're interested in ordering from dark markets and stuff.

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>>723732165
Like this?

>>723714243
yes its safe just no download a vnp because they cant sent the drugs just dont visit pages that they sell persons

>>723731981

Tails persistent volume is encrypted. You can't be forced to give up your password. They just might stick you in jail while they continue to "investigate" for a few weeks until you lost your job and all your friends and family think you're a criminal. But that fortunately doesn't count as compelling you so its perfectly legal ))

>>723732989
There is a man still in jail for not giving up his password, the court ruling will determine how this is handled in the future - whether or not it counts as asking the person to incriminate themselves or not. Ideally, they can't ask for the password, because it incriminates himself, and he won't give it.

I don't understand why he doesn't just say "I forgot it", but he is a nignog I think, used to be a cop.

>>723714243
Realistically it's not safe. Everything I've read indicates that if "some entity" felt like establishing enough exit nodes (about half of the total) then they could easily monitor traffic. It might still be encrypted, but metadata (who is talking to who) is enough to figure out if you're buying drugs, hookers, hitmen, etc. I'm totally convinced that the US government would happily invest in that sort of surveillance.

what's with all that business "washing bitcoins"? as i gather there are virtually no markets not using bitcoins, right?

>>723731981
>fbi kick in door
>we need to see your USB stick pls

on what grounds?

>>723734304
>because we said so motherfucker

>tag and bag him to diego garcia.

>>723733366
>exit nodes
>marketplace

They are not related. You don't go through an exit node when browsing the darknet, only when you get out to the internet.
But if they make it to have lots of clients in the network, and let's say they are the first node you connect to, and the last before your destination, then yeah, you are pretty much fucked.
This is why Tor is much safer when a lot of people use it, even if they are just idling there. The less people use it, the easier it gets to exploit.

>>723734233
>obtain bitcoin through ransomware virus
>wash them
> ???
>profit

>>723733185

I sure hope that doesn't happen. I mean what would happen if you genuinely forget a password to an encrypted file that they demand access to?

>>723733366
Exit nodes are only involved if you visit clearnet sites through tor. If you visit the markets or other hidden services (aka .onion sites) no exit nodes are involved.

And what you've read is based on studies by security researchers. It's called a correlation attack and it would require that both the connection you use to access tor and the exit node your traffic ends up going through are compromised.
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/10/25/tors-biggest-threat-correlation-attack/
>According to this paper, 80% of users can de deanonymized in the period of six months by realistic adversaries. This is no proof on court because of possible false positives (ranges from 5-10% depending on the correlation algorithm), but provides enough suspicion to start further monitoring.

Again remember this is only for traffic that goes out into the clearnet, not to .onion sites.

Whether TOR is safe or not depends entirely on how you are using it. Remember, TOR was funded by the US and first developed with the purpose of protecting U.S. intelligence communications.

>>723734926
exactly. like people always say "everyone should use tor".

>>723734663
Habeas corpus

>>723734233

Bitcoins are not anonymous. All transactions are stored permanently in the blockchain. If you used personally identifiable information when you purchased your bitcoins, like using a credit card, paypal etc. your coins and their movements can be tracked and associated with you.

If you can't buy bitcoins anonymously you have to break that connection, and there are several ways to do that.

>>723735203
according to the patriot act and the NDAA, as long as they can get a warrant, you are guilty.

>>723734995
Exactly, it's very scary that he might be indefinitely jailed - it sets a very bad precedence.

IMO, they should not be holding him. What if you had a file you were trying to break into, but didn't know the contents?

If they came into your house, grabbed your shit, they would naturally assume you were hiding something, when legitimately, some of us like trying to break into password protected files. I have in the passed, although all my access has been through bullshitting bypasses to using passwords. I learned quite a bit about brute force through setting shit tier passwords and attempting a bruteforce with a set amount of characters vs trying all characters available. The differences are massive in crack times.

Oldfag here. do the tor sites have legit steroid/ped sources where they sell the rest of the drugs if anyone knows?

>>723734233
Monero is the hot new currency in town but it's annoying as hell to use because every client needs to download the gigantic blockchain

>>723735427
and i guess i'll have to watch out doing that might result in me getting fucked out of my money if i don't watch it?

plus how would you buy them anonymously?

>>723735477
how would they even get a warrant if you're using TAILs on public wi-fi? Only an absolute eejit would get caught.

>>723735571
Well in the UK, where you are legally required both remember and provide any passwords the penalty is i think a maximum of 5 years in prison.

>>723731848
>>723735748
still baffles me

>>723735748
they can make up whatever they want.

>>723735854
Holy shit. If I lived in the UK - I would not make so many accounts all the time...I'd forget them.

I have accounts that are literally one purpose and gone, not even illegal shit, just craigslist ads and sometimes programming courses that I don't want my inbox spammed with the companies they sell the information too...if companies didn't sell info I wouldn't have so many accounts, but I mean..fuck the UK man, that's insane.

>>723715353
you sir are the Internets winner for this day! thank you for finally making 4 chan great again

>>723735696

Localbitcoins, it's a platform that facilitates private, in-person sales of bitcoin, that's annoying as shit though. Most people just buy them wherever and then run them through a tumbling service. You can read up on those on the darknetmarketsnoobs reddit, but don't listen to people saying you don't need to tumble. It's true that there's no known case where someone was convicted because of traced bitcoin but the blockchain is permanent and the small % fees tumblers charge is worth the additional security.

>>723736316
Localbitcoin sellers all ask for photo ID last time I checked

>>723736181
Well it's not really about website accounts, if they want to access those they just go to the companies directly, they don't need your cooperation.

It's only for things only you have access too like encrypted hard drives or files on your computer.

>>723736316
ok.
well that was all rather interesting for starters anon, i appreciate it. have a nice day.

>>723736181
The UK is fucked. 1984 was written by a Brit for a reason, they're doing their best to surpass even the USs capacity for dystopian surveillance overreach, if they haven't already done so.

>>723736464
What if you download a file or create a file and spam a password on?

I do this to test brute force - literally spam on single encrypted files, like a sole picture or text document with like a word in them, just to test...

That seems shitty, I wonder if there is a bypass to that law, because that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do they only use it if they are certain the person is hiding something illegal?

>>723736746
>Do they only use it if they are certain the person is hiding something illegal?
Not the Anon you asked,but so far, yes.

>>723736746

Well that's just the thing with encrypted files. They can't know if it's something illegal or not until you give them the password. On the one hand the government has the right to search everything you own, if it's locked they are allowed to break in if you don't cooperate. So from their perspective naturally they are entitled to search all your encrypted files as well, but since good encryption can't be easily broken...

Of course there has to be a reasonable suspicion to get a search warrant in the first place

>>723737638
>On the one hand the government has the right to search everything you own
If they have a search warrant, and they can only get a search from a judge if they have evidence you've committed a crime.

>>723737573
You're missing the point, you can't tell if an encrypted file contains anything illegal or evidence of something illegal. That's the whole reason that law exists.

If you do have something illegal in an encrypted file and you are forced to hand out the password... well that could basically amount to being forced to confess under threat of jailtime.

>>723737825
Not quite, a warrant is used to obtain evidence. Getting a warrant merely requires reasonable suspicion.

>>723738071
You're spending too much time on /pol/ anon... That's not exactly true

There's not as much pedo on Tor as some people think. Lots of bitcoin pay sites.

BUT there are tons of sites for counterfeit credit cards, and also fake cash.

Last time I looked for $1,000 you get $7500 fake $20 twenties

Supposedly the counterfeits are really good but OMG if you get caught using counterfeit money in USA it is minimum 20 fucking years hard labor at Leavenworth prison in Kansas.

I also saw lots of sites with customer reviews saying that the credit cards worked well- you get at least $2500 balance Visa for $500 bucks.

Only think is there are cameras at ATMs and also convenience stores, etc.

All in all I think it would be cool to have a fake $100 bill just to look at it and as a curiosity to show friends but I would never use it.

As for kiddie porn it's basically a bunch of pay sites

>>723739018
My question is, if you use the fakes right, say put one in your wallet, what are they going to do if you say "What? Alright, here..(hand them real money), give me that back so I can take it to the bank"

>>723738857
I've never been to /pol/

To get a warrant in the US all you need is probable cause. Probable cause can be a very flexible concept.