Britfag here, what class do you define yourself as amerifags? I see the phrase 'middle class' used in america to describe groups of people that the uk would call working or lower middle class.
'Middle class' here generally means people wealthier than most, probably from money and not really in touch with the average bloke on the street.
Tl:dr: discuss definitions of socioeconomic class in your country.
>>723531385
Middle class own, lower class rent
It's not complicated
>>723531385
The middle class in America has been redefined. There are many books on the subject.
>>723531385
Everyone here thinks they're middle class.
Your average schmoe is middle class. Upper class is the elite rich (millionaires) and lower class are homeless.
I work a shitty manual labor job in New England. That being said, I can afford my own apartment, a new Subaru, nice clothes, can party every weekend and do whatever the hell I want, travel, buy a new gun every month, etc.
I don't know what class that makes me.
>>723532371
Middle class is a homeowner with moderate debt, a guarenteed retirement strategy, and a job to power his lifestyle.
It also includes homeowner's family, or dependent cohabitants.
>>723531385
In the U.S. "middle" means middle.
So.
>>723531385
Yep, them Muritards have an inflated opinion of themselves. Just look at who they have representing them to the world. They've been raised to be stupid.
>>723534796
I agree we are stupid. We spent a fortune keeping the biggest military in the world so that the rest of the world could build up social democratic welfare states. I say we bring our troops home and let everybody else start paying for their own defense.