Ask a maritime law (admiralty law) expert anything.

>>723303816
Ever been in a shoot out?

Do you have carpet or tile in your bathroom?

What are you doing here on 4chan, Sir?

>>723303816
Is all the sea owned by someone?

>>723303816
so, did the front fall off?

>>723303890
I work in an office. I've counselled clients who have been in firefights, mainly with pirates - or fire vs. water fights, when they only have high pressure hoses to defend themselves.

>>723303974
Tile. Think hygiene.

>>723304010
4chan is the place to be.

>>723303974
You monster. Who the fuck carpets their bathroom?

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what's your thoughts on interracial porn?

>>723304063
Most of the world's oceans are in international waters, even if probably most seagoing vessels never get to areas that aren't at least in some country's exclusive economic zone. The majority of the planet belongs to nobody.

>>723304086
Shit happens; and collisions between large freight vessels involve forces that make steel about as strong as a spider's web. Then you have a world of disputes over whose fault it was and who has to clean up the environmental damage.

>>723304158
where in the ocean is your office located?

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>>723303816
How much does it pay that career?

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What kind of criminal and civil consequences would have faced the Skipper for his negligence during that three-hour tour?

>>723304346
I'm in favor of interracial porn, but not porn that makes race an issue. I've been around the world, and people are people, for better or for worse.

>>723304501
My office is in Miami, a major shipping hub - even though a typical case might involve a vessel registered in Liberia, owned by a Greek-managed company incorporated in Panama, and crewed mainly by Filipinos.

>>723304845
Thats some black market shit.

>>723304845
And where in the ocean is miami located?

>>723304651
I'm in my mid-forties, and make something under $200k in a normal year. Starting salary would be maybe $65k.

>>723304777
Could depend strongly on the location where it happened, but very probably nothing at all. Might have trouble finding a new job, though...

>>723303816
NOAA Charts always say "Not for Navigation." So are there charts that *are* for navigation, or is this just a liability thing?

>>723304086
Does that typically happen

>>723305028
That kind of complex ownership status is the norm in shipping - nothing under the table implied.

>>723305032
Between the bayou and the Bermuda triangle. You go where the work is.

>>723305151
NOAA charts are not primarily made for navigation. In the end, the captain is liable for navigation errors regardless of whether they could be prevented.

>>723305185
Major shipping collisions are always massively destructive, even at one knot. The idea of structural integrity is to prevent foundering in heavy seas, not contact with things that are made of anything tougher than water. A vessel hits anything, there is going to damage, probably major damage.

Say you're on your yacht in the Mediterranean Sea and you see a ship full of migrants. A big wave hits it and it begins to capsize. There are migrants in the water.
>Leaving them is illegal
>If you rescue them and sail in the direction they were heading, you're a people smuggler
>If you rescue them and sail in the direction they were coming from, you have dozens of pissed migrants on your hands.

Wtf are you supposed to do? does the law account for situations like this?

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>>723305058

This was a three-hour tour in the waters surrounding Oahu. Shouldn't the captain of a pleasure craft conducting inland ocean cruises have a decent understanding of the waters around him? Couldn't a civil atty demostrate rather easily that the Skipper was to blame? There doesn't appear to be a third-party litigant (Somali Pirates) responsible here; I think he goes bankrupt based upon the findings.

>>723305608
Easy case. You ALWAYS take all possible steps to aid souls in peril, and ALWAYS take them to the most logical safe harbour, taking into account weather, shipping lanes, and commercial concerns. When they get off your boat on some Greek island, they're somebody else's problem. The whole issue is a mess of international, national, and EU law, but not a major maritime question. I've never heard of a legitimate shipping company having and problem in this area.

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>>723305608
That would be your unluckiest day to sail.

what's the wieght limit on a yellow belly mud turtle.

>>723305831
For a number of reasons, including the age-old deep pockets principle, the skipper is unlikely to be where the buck stops. The owner of the liable vessel, if anyone, is going to be bearing the brunt of the onslaught.

>>723303816
what's the coolest legal thing you can do in international waters that's illegal on land?

>>723303816

What does insurance on a say a 300ft container ship run?

>I see them for as low as 300k

>>723306006
Sadly, not so unusual these days.

>>723306008
I doubt it would be rated beyond 1 TEU.

>>723306210
Criminal law is a complex issue, but in general when you're far out in the open ocean, you're worried more about not getting killed and/or not losing a vessel worth several hundred million plus its cargo. In terms of what people are actually allowed to do, things are more restrictive offshore than on the land. Oh, and no drugs or weapons...

>>723306505
You're looking at noncompetitive, outdated, undersized vessels. Nobody at Lloyd's is going to want to go near you.

>>723306785
How are the Lloyd's agents you get to see?

>>723306925
The only ones I've ever met are stereotypical English.

>>723306785
I ask because a buddy used to ship out the tailings from silver and gold mines to the states in 40ft containers and he banked off it. Did like 100 containers a month.

So I was figuring
>ship 300k
>monthly operating expenses 200k
>@5k per container I cover my bases and the ship is paid off after one month

Insurance was the big thing....

Or can a ship like that navigate sans insurance?

>>723306626
>or weapons
Why no weapons?

Is that a international thing?

>>723307273
Not in US waters. In some areas you only find the problems when you're suddenly in MAJOR trouble. Likely scenario: you sink, lose your vessel, and then get MASSIVE fines piled on top of that for dumping what you had on board.

>>723307392
Piracy. If you're floating around with no good reason and armed, you're looking at criminal punishments from the bad old days.

>>723303816
how many huge ass commercial ships go missing per year, and what are the likely causes?

>>723307483

So besides Lloyds where should I look for someone that would insurance a one ship operation?

Cuz this friend still ships out 100 containers a month.

>>723307666
There's always an investigation, and rogue waves. Still poorly understood.

not really a question about maritime law but how do I get a job on a freighter w/o all the required credentials

>>723304086
>>723304426
>>723305185
>>723305605
This is the YouTube of the front fell off, you'll get the reference once you watch

https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM

>>723307721
Friend is playing with fire. Going to get burned.

what would i have to do to make my own island nation?

>>723307811
You don't. Move to the Philippines, learn Tagalog.

>>723307866
You can't. Best you can do is find a new guano island (tip: there are none) and claim it for the USA.

>>723307856

No..

Ive been to the refinery he ships the stuff to. Every contiainer nets him about 8oz of gold. Thats 10grandish. After he pays his shipping (50% of his take) and trucking etc he still nets around 1200 per container. 100 containers a month thats good money. So I know he would finance the ship,

>>723307781
what's your gut tell you? rogue waves? sabotage by competitor companies? pirates? godzillas? north korea? I assume pirates and sabotage are out of the question if these ships are hundreds of miles away from other ships and from land

>>723308093
TBH I know nothing about maritime law, I just do these threads about once per year. Best of luck to you and your buddy.

What's the difference between flotsam and jetsam?

>>723308133
It's always rogue waves, even though certain pirate groups do operate that far from land.

As an MCA qualified engineering officer with an unlimited class 2, i've considered surveying, how do I get into this line of work?

>>723308286
Flotsam floats, jetsam jets.

>>723308286
It's a matter of whether it fell off the ship, or was deliberately pushed off.

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>>723308335
With the qualification you have, why would you want to?

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>>723308455
Im thinking long term, there will come a point after I get my chiefs and I dont want to spend 5 months at sea for every 2 ashore, but i'll still want a job involving the merchant industry because I love it.

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>>723303816
Thoughts on the immediate future prospects of european dry bulk shipping?

>>723303816
Should of become a master mariner instead. Im at sea right now. In a Damen shaolbuster.

>>723303816

Do shippers try to avoid the Bermuda Triangle nowadays when charting routes whenever possible just out of superstition/statistics?

Also, has there been a surge in more violent environmental protesters ever since Whale Wars started airing? Have any of those fuckers been punished yet for piracy or even safety violations?

>>723307916
why the Philippines?

>>723308335
Ive done survey work off the coast of weatern Australia. Looking for natural gas pockets under the seabed.

>>723308967
>Do shippers try to avoid the Bermuda Triangle nowadays when charting routes whenever possible just out of superstition/statistics?
Statistically, the Bermuda Triangle is no more prone to missing ships than any other high traffic part of the world.

>>723308693
Just do what you love - that's the mistake I made.

>>723308730
Probably not significant.

>>723308864
Word, bro.

>>723308967
Bermuda triangle is a ridiculous myth.

>>723308979
It's where they're all from.

>>723309003
Sweet gig, bro. You're living the dream.

>>723304346
Christ that's discuting. gunna puke

>>723308979
Filipina bitches are fiiiiiiiiine.

>>723308967
Not OP, but I am an officer on a merchant ship and i've personally sailed through and around Bermuda and the area referred to as the triangle. We're classically known as a superstitious bunch but these days it's bollocks. Ships dont avoid bermuda, quite the opposite

>>723309231
OP here - listen to this guy, as (unlike me) he's been on a ship. I'm just an idiot making shit up.

>>723308317
>>723307849

"But how did the front fall off?"
"Well a wave hit it."
"Is that unusual?"
"Oh yeah. At sea? A chance in a million!"

>>723309205
ur not wrong

>>723309199
dyou really think the chances of me becauming an OS are near 0

>>723309199

What about the Whale Wars/Sea Shepherd question? More protests in more countries with more violence over more shit since the show aired?

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I work for the Alaska Marine Highway System and want to know how the fuck they can get away with not having us under the Jones Act.

When we get hurt, it goes through workmans comp. Im an Able Bodied Seaman

>>723303816
is it true there is no such thing as rape on the high seas?

>>723303816
if you go on a cruise, is there really such thing as a crime onboard the ship?

>>723303816
Are there any islands in international waters, even tiny shitty ones, that aren't claimed by a country? And if so, could I start my own tiny shitty country? How'd that work?

>>723303816
I'm currently high on my boat right now. I know the basics I need to, but I want to know weird and interesting shit. What are weird loopholes, laws, or weird incidents you have knowledge of?

>>723309199
thoughts on the spratly islands dispute

>>723309231
other than ancient aliens in the bermuda triangle, do you ever see any old timey superstition from sailors today?

>>723303816
How do I get your job?

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>>723304501

>>723310111
you can make a country anywhere, if you can defend it against those who claim to own it