Could Superman beat Hulk?

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yes lol wtf

>>723229035
Yes

>>723229035
yes, superman is the most powerful fictional character ever conceived.

>>723229284
>who is the flash?

Given infinite anger, hulk will have infinite strength. So yes, Superman can beat hulk.

Superhero stories will always be flawed for having such a character like Superman exist.

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>>723229284
Super who?

>>723229150
This.
If superman were real
No plot bs.
He'd be King.
No Kr bs.
He'd still kill everyone.

>>723229284
>God

ez pz superman

Batman

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>>723229035
>fly hulk into space
>????????

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>>723229506
Get lost, poser.

>>723229035

DC wrote Superman to be invisible.

In some cases, they have even removed of his established "weaknesses" for a story arc.

They do not emphasize whether Superman is the strongest of all time. Like I said, that is not the issue and they go out of their way to make that totally secondary.

What they actually emphasize the morality of someone who is the strongest of all time. That is the point of the books.

Also, even with that interesting wrinkle, only about 10% of his stories are even vaguely interesting to read. There is only so much you can stretch with the "should I do this" BS. He's popular only because he's been around for almost 100 years and he's a very well-known brand. "Brand but Bland"

If you want a good book, read X-Men. Marvel does a better job with this theme.

>>723229284
He's strong as fuck. Definitely not strongest.

>>723230060
>invisible
never heard of him being see-through before

>>723229035
If Superman didn't fight like an idiot, yeah.
He could send Hulk into orbit with one punch, then deal with him however he pleases.

>>723230060

captain atom can beat superman ez

>X vs Y who would win
>"omg Z would beat both xDDDD"

Goddamn autists.

>>723229338
the flash is only fractionally faster than superman. this has been shown in comics over and over.

>>723230326
didn't do that well in Injustice

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>>723229922
nice get

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>>723230252

> invincible

thanks for proof reading

>>723230475

because injustice is bullshit

>>723229284
you misspelled Saitama

>>723230377
>being this autistic

>>723230475

that was the whole point, make him as much bullshit as possible

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One-punch man>Superman

>>723230462
Little boy blue doesn't have access to the speed force. So I refuse to believe that.

Captain Manhattan can blow up Superman no problem at all.

Superman greatest of all time... No

>Krypton blowed up gud
>WhyDidntTheyConquerTheGalaxy.png
>PowerfulSpaceFaringSpecies.xml
>NeverEncounteredYellowSunsB4.mp3
>FuckKryptonians.wav
>SupesAintShit.jpg

>>723230462
What? It's been shown in comics over and over that The Flash pisses all over Superman when it comes to speed

>>723230586
you can't make superman more bullshit than he already is

>>723229035
a school girl with kryptonite panties could beat superman

>>723229652
The question wasn't who's more fictional.

>>723230678
The races that flash wins, he wins only barely.

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>>723230640
>Captain Manhattan
>Doctor

>>723230640
>Captain Manhattan
Who?

>>723230739
are you saying hes a pedo?

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>>723230580
>>723230597

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>>723229035

Superman has held a black hole in his hands.
He would destroy the hulk.
http://i.imgur.com/A9qHb7u.jpg

If superman can't even beat goku, then what chance does he have of beating the hulk?

>>723230597
/thread

>>723230701
Silver Age is bullshit but not much recently. The last couple continuities versions of Superman basically existed to get their asses kicked, especially N52 supes

>>723230701

yes because plot

>>723230807
I'm sure he meant Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen

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>>723230597
>>723230877

fucking weebs

>>723229758
underrated

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>>723230845
sorry, pic here

>>723230823
i'm saying he's shit simple to beat

>>723229035
Moar like this
http://streamboobs.com

>>723230775
The Big Bang would be number one. How can something come from nothing?

>>723230827
Actually, what does all that energy from the punch get turned into? where does it go?

>>723230871
Wrong. KEK. Goku was beaten by a single laser.

>>723230782
Nobody is denying Supes is fast as fuck, but speed is the Flashes thing. DC didn't create Flash to be #2 in the only super power the man has.

>>723230871
Superman would destroy goku. In the comics, superman is as powerful as he needs to be to win. So if Superman and Goku were really in a comic together, DC would write into the contract, superman always is more powerful.

>>723231096
that was bullshit, and you know it

coldsteel is way stronger

>>723229035
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>>723231040
It's called a theory. It's founded in facts. You don't understand the big bang theory. There's no evidence to prove God's existence.

>>723230782
When The Flash is actually going all out Supes wouldn't even pick up on his movements.
The only reason top Speedsters like Barry Allen and Wally don't regularly go that fast is because they risk literally becoming speed incarnate and forgeting whatever was tethering them to their human lives

Can't you just use Kryptonite and chop his head off or something?

>>723229506
It must be hard being a DC fan
>you're just chilling with your friends talking about DC characters
>"so who do you think the strongest is?"
>"well I think it's probably-"
>that third friend opens his mouth
>"DOCTOR MANHATTAN OBVIOUSLY"

Superman lifted infinity. Hulk is a green nigger.

>>723231253
/thread

>>723231040
>How can something come from nothing?
I've always hated this question. It shows how single minded one person can be.

>>723231046
this is the reason why i never got into super heroes. they never follow any kind of laws of physics. the biggest culprits are usually super speed, complete bullshit. im all for suspension of disbelief but i have my limits

>>723231253
>taking the side of the alien refugee
REDDIT GET OUT

>>723231286
i hear that.

>>723231231
If he doesnt laser you first. You gotta be strategic, Luthor.

>>723230999
I'll check those trips. But holding a black hole seems like a bit much even for superman.

>post the rest I wanna know what he did with the damn thing.

>>723231232
>must be hard being a DC fan

This is especially true when you can't read. Note who I am replying too before you embarrass yourself again.

>>723231232
I'm still confused on how they're gonna make him the Big Bad of DC Rebirth because he really isn't all that impressive compared to some other heavy hitters

>>723231232
Even harder being a Marvel fan. Marvel heroes don't fight bad guys anymore they fight each other. As seen by Civil War 2 and Inhumans vs X-Men.

Superman 1 million who lived in the sun for 1 million months. The most powerful being in any universe.

>>723230580
Kill yourself

>>723231253
agreed

>>723230597
kill yourself weeb

>>723231311
I really don't think you appreciate suspension of disbelief much if real world laws of physics are where you draw the line

>>723230483
>>723222222

>>723231137
And goku by design rises up to meet any challange, no matter how difficult.

>>723230580
saitama cant even breath in space and cant fly... superman could legit just fight him at range and win

>>723231444
> The most powerful being in any universe.

Superman 1 Million isn't even close to the most powerful thing in DC

>>723231137
Supes can't fight for shit. Goku is the pinnacle of fighting capability

>>723230657
Y U NO no webm?

No. Hulk is immortal and can't be beat.

>>723229035
It depends who's doing the writing.

>>723231382
he carries it to a wormhole and throws it in. everyone lives happily ever after.

>>723231529
im fine with stretching but completely breaking everything i cant take (for example ignoring atoms being pushed when something moves really fast)

>>723229035
Depends on the versions of the characters. In their strongest states, supes rapes him. With that said, there are forms of the hulk that can beat forms of superman(or at least never be beaten by him).

>>723231598
>OldFagHabitsDyeHard.webm

>>723231566
Kaioken x(whatever number) for an instant = everything dead

>>723230462
If superman fought the flash, he'd be a statue in like a nanosecond.

>>723229284
he is not . check galactus for example theres many comic chars awfully strong

>>723231137
Lol no, 'superman is as powerful as he needs to be to win' hasn't been true for decades. Current Goku absolutely destroys most unamped versions of Superman, it wouldn't even be an entertaining fight.

Obviously he loses to the likes of Silver Age Supes. That's the one who literally could get the powers he needed by making them up

>>723231231
Are we talking about Bruce banner in hulk so it's just angreat hulk? Or is it just hulk without Bruce banner?

>doomsday killed superman
>doomsday is our lord and savior

>>723231591
do you really think an 86 can win against a 918 no matter the driver's capability?

>>723231744
post-crisis superman is far more powerful than silver age.

>>723231657
I'll take it.

Official cannon... aquaman can beat super man.

>inb4 underage b&
A good source for these kind of debates are reddit respect threads. just google "[character's name] respect thread."

>>723229652
underrated

>>723229035
Depends on how angry The Hulk gets, theoretically.

I think most people are forgetting the hulk has unmeasurable strength. The more you beat his ass, the more enraged he becomes and the more savage he gets. Super man has morals, the hulk has none and thus, has the advantage.

>>723231444
>The most powerful being in any universe
Learn some respect, kid.

>Iceman
>CAN control water at the molecular level at least, maybe smaller
>bretty much all humans and like intelligent beings are mainly water
>basically, doesn't rip everything to mist because he subtly doesn't give a fuck.

>>723232225
The Hulk doesn't have infinite durability. Anyone sufficiently stronger than him can fuck him up before he gets a chance to get his rage boost

Superman got killed in a fistfight with Doomsday, Hulk would definitely win.

>>723229035
Yes. Supermans op af.

>>723232396
Superman has also been bested by Batman on several occasions. If we are talking about a fight, Hulk wins. There is no argument. Superman is not invincible, he takes his power from the Sun. If the Hulk smashed him 300 feet into a crater and created a huge dust cloud, advantage Hulk again. Red Hulk is another level entirely.

Do you people understand how powerful just normal everyday Superman is? In one of his comic, he is at the center of the earth cut off from sunlight. He is hooked up to a machine to test his strength. He was continuously lifting the weight of the whole planet, doing reps, for 7 days straight. Only one single bead of sweet crept down in brow by the end of it. He said he felt he could lift it forever.

>>723229284

This. DC fanboys piss and moan about Marvel characters, but Supes is so fucking overpowered it's ludicrous.

>>723232527
Batman vs. Hulk

>>723231311
>they never follow any kind of laws of physics

This gets to be a real problem with insanely strong characters like Hulk or Superman. Even Spider-Man with his car-lifting strength is pushing it.

I mean, if you take the size of a human hand, and use it to move really heavy stuff, there comes a point where those kinds of "Superman hands" would just tear through what they're trying to move, since there'd be far too much pressure on a far too small surface area.

Then if you have two insanely strong characters like the Hulk and Superman, both would have to be made out of some ludicrously robust material to be able to move the kind of loads they're quoted to be able to lift in the comics (beyond 100 tons at least).

And since neither are black holes by their mass, but instead rather modest in weight (Superman human weight? Hulk maybe 500-1000kg?) , the very concept of them punching each other is like two tiny, immensely hard and exceedingly light diamonds bumping into each other in zero gravity...

It takes months now for superman to start to lose any power from lack of sunlight.

And of course, we can all agree that Squirrel Girl would beat anyone.

>>723229035
yes

>>723232667
Bruh

>>723229284
Who is Azathoth (even Cosmic Armor SM is putty to him), The Broken God (SCP Foundation), SCP-682, Giorno Giovanna (JJBA (with Gold Experience Requiem)), SCP-2480, SCP-239, Carne (JJBA (post-mortem)), and quite a few more.
Hell, given the right opportunity, Rohan Kishibe (JJBA), who has very little physical capabilities, could outright prevent Superman from touching him, and Yoshikage's Killer Queen just needs to give Supes a love-tap and he's dust in the wind.

>>723232349
super speed, laser , rip iceman

>>723230580
>>723230825
>>723231458
>>723231577

Saitama is a parody. The whole point is he is the strongest (no limit) so regardless of who he faces he is stronger. No point in comparing an infinite power parody character to anyone across universes.

>>723232527
superman survived a wormhole. Superman survived the end of a universe. Superman tanked a blast that de-evolutionized the entire justice league.

Yes, I agree. These characters are always subject to Escalation to keep readers interested in their storylines. They have to keep expanding the scope of their "abilities" to keep them relevant. Once you've seen them bench press a planet who cares about them holding an airplane, right?

>>723232837
Would Clark be affected by a Death Note?

>>723232963
Ah, that's a good idea

>>723232963
supes is immune to magic

>>723233029
NIGGER WHAT???

>>723233029
Magic is supes second most well known vulnerability
>>723232963
No, he isn't human

>>723232963
>The human whose name is written in this note shall die
>human

try again

>>723232837
Wow youre a fucking loser.

>>723229035
Why is this even a fucking debate. Superman could kick anyone's fucking ass. Batman v. Superman was laughable.

>>723233029
Superman is impervious to many things, but not...
1. Kryptonite
2. Red Sun Radiation
3. Magic

>>723232963
He'll just regenerate if he has a heart attack, and most other things you can do won't kill him since you can't define an impossible cause of death.

>>723229035

Can the hulk survive being trapped inside the sun for eternity? If not then ggnore

>>723233051
he was hit by the claw of horus and was unfazed. beat the shit out of shazam. He even survived an attack from 30th century Mordru.

>>723233120
The same writers who come up with all the bullshit invincibilities and infinite powers of superman could also come up with the same shit for how anyone could beat him. Doomsday killed him, he's a weak-dick character and he did it bc it was necessary to the story.

>>723229035
Yes. Easily. Hulk has nowhere near Superman's level of power. The strongest feat I'm aware of the Hulk having under his belt is when he fought another "worldbreaker hulk" and cracked a planet on impact when they hit each other.

Superman has done the following:
>cracked the surface of a planet with a single punch
>Towed around planets
>Rendered whole planets lifeless
>vaporized an entire planet with his heat vision
>raised a kid
>survived inside a star
>survived quite happily inside a star
>DESTROYED a star
>held a fucking black hole inside his hand.

Unless hulk has some cosmic level feats I'm not aware of, he doesn't hold a candle to superman.

>>723233029
doesnt know shit about supermane

>>723229035
No, Superman would piss off Hulk to the point that Hulk would throw him off the planet, literally. Superman would come back down and piss Hulk off again. No one would win. Millions would die.

>>723233224
>raised a kid
>cosmic level power
WAT?

>>723233264
>Millions would die
Until Reed got tired of both their shit.

Hulk would thunder clap his dick through supermangs body you little bitch

>>723233120
How can he beat Azathoth then? Last I checked, kicking the ass of that whose dream is what we know as reality is kinda difficult, even with bullshit writers.

>>723231046
probably heat and light

Saw the son of batman take super the fuck out with a krypt blade

>>723233295
You don't have kids do you?

Either way, it was just a stupid joke. Unless of course you're kid has the same world-shattering powers as you, which Kal's kid DOES have, in which case it's some real shit.

If we are talking about hulk vs superman from their initial superpowers when they were first written, hulk tears superman in half and hides his corpse in Swamp Thing's marsh.

>>723233465
>you're

ohohohoho

Didn't Hulk punch a hole in time/reality or something?

>>723233536
>hulk tears superman in half and hides his corpse in Swamp Thing's marsh.
Bruh you don't want to go there. Golden Age superman could destroy solar systems by sneezing and make up powers on the fly.

>>723229035
Superman's dead dumbass

>>723233586
Lol fuck

>>723233566
Bite me. I've been awake for 39 hours and can't sleep till my girlfriend gets home wuith some pills. I'm glad I can still type

>>723233588
So is the Hulk. Your point?

>>723231046
Super-farts.

Superman ejects stored energy as a series of SBDs.

But everyone always blames Aquaman for the horrid stink.

This thread makes me hate how much super-power these super heroes actually have.

>>723233465
Kids? How old are you? I thought old people posting here was a meme. If I'm 20 and still here, shoot me.

I wonder how many forums, how many times over the history of the internet this horse has been beaten.

>>723233708
I'd guess the average age for 4chan users is about 19 or 20, but I could be wrong. Either way, I'm just rying to make time disappear without htinking about it, which /b/ happens to be excellent for.

Get back on topic here fuckers

>>723233792
at least 12 times

at least
maybe more

>>723233792
An answer everyone can agree on will be found... eventually

>>723233703
That's kinda the point. Even Spiderman can dance around Hulk without being hit once.

so is image posting down on all boards right now, or just /b/?

>>723229035
Isn't the Hulk 100% indestructible with limitless power?

>>723233881
That's a good point. If you set him up against beings like Superman or the Flash who can easily move faster than the speed of light, he wouldn't be able to land a hit.

>>723233926
No. He's died several times in the comic books.

He can still be hurt, he's just really, REALLY durable, and has a healing factor rivaling wolverine's, but if you can hit him hard enough to hurt him, and you can overtax his healing power, he can no longer get angrier and angier or stay angry forever, which leads to certain opponents wearing him down over time. You've also got certain examples of characters taking him out before he has time to properly get mad and power up.

>>723233943
>>723233881
true, but they could never hurt the hulk. what about if we put them in a small room? would that change things?

>>723230640
Captain Manhattan created the DC universe.

>>723234020
see >>723234016

Hulk has actually died several times, to beings much weaker than Superman. Hell, hawkeye killed him once, and that's just a smart, strong dude with a bow.

>>723233926
Superman is limitless plus 100

>>723234016
just kamehameha him into the sun

>>723234131
>when they still salty that superman beats goku

>>723233943
Wikipedia says he can "punch his way between separate temporal or spatial dimensions" Gotta be pretty fast to do that, right?

>>723234035
Manhattan interfered with the restructuring of the universe, pretty big difference

>>723234154
>Implying Superman would be a blip on Goku's radar anymore

>>723234161
I'd thing that was more of a strength thing than a speed thing

>>723233161
4. You forgot about Batman continually insulting him and Clark pretends like he doesn't hear it.
But he does.

>>723234082
is that new hulk or old hulk? superman has died as well

>>723232874
He isn't infinite tho

>>723234161
Considering that Spiderman and Quicksilver can run circles around him, it seems unlikely.

>>723234097
You don't seem to understand how infinity works.

infinity + 1 = infinity
infinity + 100 = infinity
infinity + Graham's number = infinity

There are bigger and smaller infinities, but you can't jump from one to the next just by adding a regular number.

>>723234082
So, he can die, then come back and kick ass again, or are we talking about different timelines or realities where he stayed dead?

>>723234131
But Supes gets his power from the sun

thank you for doing the exact opposite of harming him

>>723231116
then why is everyone else #2 compared to superman's powers?

>>723229035

In a mutual Masturbation session
who'd CUM FIRST

SUPERMAN
or
THE HULK

>I say OP because Op is a faggot and gets off on the thought of 2 buff guys jerking each other off.

>>723234248
>implying DC didn't just up his strength again too
DC rebirth bitch, pre New 52 Supes is back. Goku can bend over.

>>723234326
Both, actually. New hulk died in Civil War 2, old hulk died like 12 times.

>>723234020
>what about if we give Hulk some kryptonite

let's not give out handicaps here

>>723233637
To hell with the pills man.Just get her to blow you.
Then fall asleep half way through :)

>>723234364
>or are we talking about different timelines or realities where he stayed dead?
Dunno. I'm not a DC guy, I'm just reporting what a quick perusal of marvel has told me. I don't know how Marvel handles their continuity.

>>723233573
I mean, who hasn't at this point

>>723231410
/thread

>>723234515
uh... poorly lol.

>>723234376
On earth Superman is the big kid at the playground. There are plenty other threats in space.

>>723233536
golden age superman shot fucking mini supermans out of his hands dude this character is just broken as fuck. hulk is nothing compared to him.

>>723234508
>To hell with the pills man
Easy for you to say, all your limbs are still attached.

>>723233101
Nice catch.

>>723231286

How is this question single minded? It's logical as fuck

WHO HERE CAN'T POST IMAGES ON 4 CHAN RIGHT NOW?

IT KEEPS SAYING FAILED FOR ME.

>>723234020
no no if we really want this battle to be a fair one then superman have to slap hulks gf's ass and then they armwresel or some shit otherwhise hulk have no chance agains superman

>>723234738
same

>>723234668
No, it's not logical, it's intuitive. There's a difference. Humans can't intuitively comprehend the number 1,000,000 without hours of mental preparation, and you think you can puzzle out how the universe began by thinking about it for a few seconds? Well shit, what do we need all those scientists with decade's of experience and thousands of years of combined knowledge for, we've got you!

>>723234738
That's happening in every thread on every board.

>>723229035

technically yes, superman has to wear out the hulks regen factor. watch Screw Attacks Hulk vs Doomsday.

>>723234826
I think you might just be retarded

>>723234322
Kek

>>723234207
Same pretty big difference.

My memory is shit.

>>723234903
I have a picture of a cartoon dash board covered with buttons saying things like, "Provide a logical counterpoint" and "logically refute" and other such good options, then a giant fat neckbeard hand slamming down on a big red button that says, "call him a retard."

It would be just perfect to use here, but 4chan seems to be having a stroke and no one on any board can post images, so instead of posting a pertinent response image, I'll just describe it to you in one long autistic post.

ree.

>>723234795
>>723234880
They need to fix the shit.

Also, thanks for the replies.

>>723229284
Who is doomsday

>>723234738
hiroshima nagasaki is in the process of shutting 4chan down. sjw's won. he's conserving bandwidth until he uses it all up. once it's gone, by-by 4chan.

>>723235125
Saying superman is weaker than doomsday is like saying Bruce Lee was weaker than the older kid who beat him up on the playground when he was 11.

>>723229524
No, there are plenty of beings out there that could destroy him, Galactus, Saitama, Zen-Oh, anyone with the infinity gauntlet, etc.

>>723235125

see >>723234885

>>723235086
I think you might just be autistic

>>723235163
https://youtu.be/_n1DGFpWRKc

>>723229035
>Superman can kick hulks ass
>Batman can kick Superman's ass
>Batman is the true victor.
>batman will somehow beat Dr. Manhattan's ass
Just wait and see. DC is setting up Watchman Vs Justice leauge and this will be the ending

>>723234668
>How is this question single minded?
Okay. Let me put it in a way you'll understand.

Q: How can something come from nothing?
A: Frosted Flakes

>>723234668
if there is nothing, (not a vacuum, I mean nothing as in not even elemental forces) then there is nothing to stop something from coming into existence.

probly

>>723229035

Ah yes. Another case of almost human creature versus white man. Tale as old as time. White man always wins.

>>723235260
Yes. Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you genuinely not understand?

When Doomsday killed superman he was far younger and weaker than he was in his prime. Saying superman should lose to Hulk because Doomsday killed him is like saying Goku would lose to hulk because Raditz beat him.

>>723235367
>white man
Kal-El is an alien, you fucking idiot.

>>723229035

How is this a fight?

All opponents Superman can just toss into space is not a fight worth discussing.

>>723235377
goku would never lose to anyone. he's by far the best character ever invented. I can't believe that people would even argue that any western character could even complete.

>>723235315
>Batman can kick Superman's ass
The two of them have fought 47 times that I'm aware of, in all the comics, movies, and cartoons. Batman definitely won 3 of them, superman definitely won 14 of them, and it was either a draw, inconclusive, or the fight was never finished in 30 of them.

>Batman can kick Superman's ass
>Batman *can* kick Superman's ass, but usually doesn't
>Batman *can* lose to superman, and does 4/5ths of the time.

superman wins

>>723235367
you dumb fucking cunt

>>723235489
A total non sequitur.

>>723235435

Yeah you're right. A sentient alien race in galaxies far away from Earth is filled with white people. Pretty lucky if you ask me.

>>723235515

You seem upset.

>>723235435
>White man
>Is an alien
Kal-El definitely looks white, and is a male. I don't see a problem here.

>>723229035
Yes. Anyone who says Hulk can beat Superman is a fucking moron.

>>723235315
Ozy already beat Dr Manhattan in the way batman could never. who would win vs ozy and batman is a better question. in reality, dr manhattan is the strongest alive, he could create kryptonite from nothing, and just generate any weakness vs anyone. his only disadvantage is his disinterest in the world.

>>723235579
more incredulous that you would call Superman a white man

>>723235489
Kek Superman was build with the ideoligy of limitless power
Goku does have a limit while Superman doesnt.
If it was New 52 Superman then yeah Goku can win since they nerfed the fuck out if him, but now that he is dead and we have Pre-52 Superman then Goku will always lose

>>723235489
>goku would never lose to anyone
Thanos would like a word.

>>723235602
>dr manhattan is the strongest alive
I think Galactus, White Lantern Hal Jordan, Squirrel Girl, Dr. Doom, and Franklin Richards would all stand a fair chance against him.

>>723235377
I wasn't responding to OP retard. I was responding to the anon that thinks superman is the strongest fictional character.

>>723229035
Probably not in the hand-to-hand kind of way, but he could throw him into the sun.

>>723235613

Why no?

>>723235602
Dr. Manhattan's createst and most obvious flaw is......Plot! He can destroy, create, or do anything he wants in just a snap of his finger, but due to plotlines and shit he is the weakest. Thats why i said that DC will do some bullshit plot that will make the Justice leauge victorious

Gogeta SSB kek

>>723235719
I know. I didn't say Superman is the strongest fictional character, did I? I just said that it's stupid to say Superman would lose to Hulk because [superman has ever lost a fight to anyone].

>>723235718
Odin too.

>>723235791
Except doomsday. Superman is not the strongest fictional character.

>>723235620
>>723235700
Goku will just go Super Saiyan Rainbow God of everything™

>>723235887
You're forgetting one punch man which could also the both superman, doomsday, and goku at once

I think Superman could win in a brawl, but the Hulk clearly has a bigger dick so would win with the ladies.

>>723235909
The blue makes me cringe.

>>723235915
>Dead Man takes control of Saitama
>drowns him
gg no re

>>723235887
I literally never said he's the strongest fictional character. He's not even the strongest DC character.

BUT...

He's way fucking stronger than doomsday by the time he reaches his prime. Superman was young and inexperienced when doomsday killed him, and he (supes) got a lot stronger after that. The next time they met superman literally ripped him in half, killing him instantly. I'd post the comic page showing that, but 4chan seems to be having issues.

>>723235877
>>723235773
>>723235718
I don't think dr manhattan could ever die. nor be killed for that matter. even if the universe was destroyed he would remain somewhere in the remaining vacuum. as for the other super heros mentioned, they died somewhere in their storylines, some several times. the only problem is dr manhattans will to fight, and plotlines as anon above mentioned.

>>723235915
Would he? We've hardly seen that confirmed. Hulk, Doomsday, Superman, and Goku all have demonstrated levels of power much greater than anything we've seen Saitama do.

>>723229284

What about Jesus?

>>723235915
this is bait

>>723235988
>>723229284

>>723235915
Lol, no chink anime faggot in existence could beat superman. If they were ever in a comic/movie together superman would be as powerful as needed to win. I'm sure it would even be in the contract DC's lawyers draw up.

>>723232711
/THREAD

>>723235999
Yeah, but it's kind of a pointless argument if we're being honest.

>THIS INFINITELY POWERFUL UNIVERSE SHATTERING CHARACTER CAN BEAT THIS OTHER INFINITELY POWERFUL UNIVERSE SHATTERING CHARACTER EASILY!!!

At least with superman and goku and the like we can *kind of* comprehend their power, but with people on Manhattan's level, we're just kind of pissing in the wind.

>>723236080
Yeah. That's not me. Your reply
this >>723235260

was to me >>723235163 , not him >>723229284

You just replied to the wrong person, dude.

>>723230462
>>723230782

Confirmed for literally knowing nothing about the Flash.

Google it dumbass.

Flash is a gorillion times faster than Supes. Supes is just a mary sue at everything.

>>723233803
Fucking children, if you are not a 10 yr + ultra virgin wizard your opinion on anything isnt worth shit

My name is Cole Coke

>>723230871
Obvious bait is obvious

>>723236140
eh, you deny my trips! didnt even check em before you wrecked em

anyways yea, Goku beats superman (depending which version) but dr manhattan rapes everyone, as he is the 'literal' version of God as we could imagine I guess.

>>723230999
superhero comics are the absolute worst load of garbage bullshit ever conceived

>>723236215
Flash kind of makes the concept of speed itself irrelevant. The answer to the question "is the flash faster than [literally anything]" is YES. The dude can literally cross space faster than an instant.

How? Speedforce, relativity, and go fuck yourself.

>>723229035
DC and Marvel have done cross overs.

Superman has faught hulk.
hulk lost

World breaker hulk would rape Superman

>>723236315
>(depending which version)
Another big issue. What with all the reboots and everything, superman at various points over the years has been everything from barely above human strength to so absurdly godlike (Superman Prime, Golden Era supes) that he could eat manhattan like it was nothing. Continuity is a bitch.

>>723236381
>A FUCKING ATTOSECOND
>13 trillion time slight speed
>instantaneous travel across millions of light years is way too fucking slow
>can outrun the concept of death
>can vibrate himself backward in time
>etc. etc.

yeah he's busted.

>>723230827
Underrated post

>>723236436
see >>723233224

>>723229035
Kekekkekek
https://youtu.be/W2U0KuUqnYQ

>>723229035
They've had this Marvel vs DC crossover a few times, over the years and Superman won every time. I always thought a more interesting fight is Superman and Lobo. I think Lobo would kill the Punisher.

>>723229284
That's true, in fact long ago they even had to tone down Darkseid so he didn't use his powers to wish Superman out of existence (I thing I like to do to exgfs lol)

>>723230782
The Flash is so fast that he once became a Marvel character that has no superpowers at all, and has never been mentioned again.

>>723236197
Km8

>>723232837
fucking loser

>>723232837
I have no idea what literally any of these things are.

>>723233708
MODS

>>723232382
He has a nearly instantaneous healing factor.

>>723236893
A healing factor that can and has been overwhelmed in the past

>>723236893
only will go as far as he's pissed off. Hulk has been beaten back to banner form many times

>>723233029
You're thinking of the Hulk. He's not completely invincible to it, just so insanely resistant to it that you might as well not bother.

>>723230580
One puuunnnnchhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

>>723232667
Kek

>>723229284
>who is Madara

aquaman wins

>>723229338
Who?

>>723231956
Proof?

>>723232527

Red hulk just gets hotter. Shut up. Worldbreaker Hulk > Any other Hulk or version ever besides 1 of spin-offs.

>>723232667
I don't know about hulk, but for superman's part, his ability to move around large objects without damaging them (picking up a car by it's bumper without just ripping the bumper off) comes from the idea that he can extend his electromagnetic aura out around objects he's touching. See, superman's actual body isn't that much tougher than a human's, just as much tougher and stronger as a humanoid from a higher gravity world (krypton) would be. His insane powers and durability come from his ability to absorb the sun's light and project that energy into his bioelectric aura that sits inside his body and just above his skin, which is why his skintight clothing is rarely damaged, but his cape gets torn off every eleven seconds.

You see the continuation of this idea in kryptonians demonstrating tactile telekinesis (ie then can manipulate a mass, but only after touching it) or even extended telekinesis (which superboy can do).

>>723237187
Are you joking?

>>723229035
Yeh

>>723232527
>Superman has also been bested by Batman on several occasions
And superman has beaten batman MANY more times than batman has beaten him. See >>723235499

>>723233224

>raised a kid

Hey he is trying fuck wad. Skar and Hiro Kala are out of the blue so to speak.

>>723237187
literally who?

>>723229035
Hulk (616) va Superman (New 52)
YES

Hulk (MCU) vs Superman (DCEU)
NO

>>723236410
And Namor beat Aquaman without breaking a sweat. Look, Namor is a lot more interesting of a character, but DC has gone out of their way to force Aquaman on readers, and part of that has been by making him insanely overpowered. The fight would have been the other way around, had it not been decided by reader votes.

I think Logan could handle Lobo ultimately, but the fight was a fucking joke. Lobo should have given a much better challenge to him.

>>723230580
Correcto answer, stupid but correct answer

>>723229035
depends on which version of Hulk, which version of Superman, and who's writing it...if it's DC, Superman wins and if it's Marvel then Hulk wins.

>>723237467
Aquaman beat Namor in that battle.
All you'd have to do to beat Namor is grab one of those little faggot wings on his feet and start twisting.

>>723237526
>if it's DC, Superman wins and if it's Marvel then Hulk wins.
Actually, if you look at their history of crossovers, it doesn't matter which company is writing, superman wins every time.

>>723230580
He's yet to actually demonstrate that.

>>723229284
Are you stupid or just a Troll, any Cosmic being, Hell lord, Sky father god, reality warper, elder magician, level 13 intelect, can kill superman

>>723236197
Does full blown autism hurt real bad?

As seen in movies, it would be a tie while they completely destroy the city/place they were trying to save. So every major building was destroyed in the process, and ALL roads and all phone poles and all banks and all grocery stores and a million cars as well? YOU SAVED US!!! THANKS!!!! Well...at least we have air or something...

>>723237749
I don't know, ask an autist. That anon seemed literally incapable of reading back through the thread, so I had to carefully, deliberately explain each and every step in the conversation so he'd get it.

>>723234413
Superman. There's a reason they call him the fastest man in the world;)

Only w/ hulk hands

>>723236494
/thread
accidentally the whole thing

>>723237027
except when Dr. Banner was physically seperated from the Hulk so the Hulk could be controlled as a massive doomsday pawn.

>>723235444
Hulk can survive in space. Not saying he'd win but he makes his own oxygen or some shit

>>723229284
You misspelled Jack Kirby

>>723233029
Superman gets BITCH SLAPPED by magic.
Again, why the Superman saga is utter bull shit there is zero consistency in how powerful his character really is. ERGO HULK WINS CUZ HULK IS ALWAYS RETARD STRONG

>>723237060
no, dumb nigger, no

>>723234322
Chekd
He can't not hear it, he could hear Lois Lane pooping from another galaxy.

>>723233163
Sups doesn't have excelled regen guy

>>723233161
The hulk is impervious to many things, but not...
1. Blunt force trauma
2. Death
3. Magic

>>723238088
shut up cuck

>>723238238
Yes, he does.

>>723233224
Hulk Feats:

Strength/Power

Punching through a time storm (Incredible Hulk 135) and time (Indestructible Hulk 15).
Clashing with Ironclad in the crossroads causing "cataclysmic upheavals and unimaginable destruction" in an "infinite number of dimensions" (Incredible Hulk 304)
Overpowering a field of energy that had the power to change the orbit of a planet (Tales to Astonish 89)
Having the weight of a star on him and not even coming to his knees until he had his throat slit (Infinity 6)
Durability

Tanks a sonic blast that when reflected destroyed a dimension/universe (Incredible Hulk 126)
As the "fabric of reality becomes like a curtain rent and torn" Hulk proceeds forward and overcomes the source, Vector (Incredible Hulk 304)
While fighting Strange-Zom, has large gaping holes punched completely through his torso, yet fights through it and regenerates it (World War Hulk 4)

Additional:

Apocalypse states that the Unleashed Hulk's vast power/energies can challenge or possibly even overcome the Celestials themselves (Incredible Hulk #456)!
The Hulk catches the Silver Surfer's board as it moves at top speed with a single incredible leap (Tales to Astonish #92)!
Despite surviving a blast from Thanos and proceeding to get the brief upper-hand by pummeling the Mad Titan, Professor Hulk is shrinked down in size by Thanos during the "Infinity Gauntlet" saga and is cast back to Earth, where he proceeds to beat the Abomination and convince him to return his former wife Nadia to her home where she belongs (Infinity Gauntlet #4 & Incredible Hulk #384)!

Hulk shattered a planet in the Dark Dimension, from his punch's shockwave.

Mindless Hulk shattered an entire Dimension.

>>723233868
YOU'RE FUNNEH

>>723238394
I tried to avoid galaxy/universe/dimension death type things when listing superman's feats, because we really have no idea what kind of forces are involved and how much they'd hurt him. For example, I once stood inside the multi billion+ joule warm front that tore apart a hurricane , which sounds impressive, but in reality it basically just felt like a warm sunday.

Best to avoid unquantifiable things like that, but if we're counting them, Supes has survived multiple universe deaths, the end of time, being crushed by infinity, and has been torn apart by an extensional being... None of which really mean anything.

>>723238271
dubs says "no"

>>723238277
point to DC series which explains?

>>723238394
thats impressive

>>723237793
>please allow me to explain my autism
oh lordy

>>723231253
Hulk held two spheres of matter and antimatter apart for a good while which would be equivalent to holding infinity. He wasn't even all that angry while doing it.

>>723238735
Look, it's too late at night for me to spoonfeed you, just read the thread or fuck off.

>>723238663
Every main continuity DC superman canon since Crisis.

>>723238775
>spheres of matter
Which describes everything from a grain of sand to a planet. Thanks.

>sphere of antimatter
which wouldn't have mass.

Try again.

>>723232225
Spiderman has knocked out the hulk before. Gave him one massive punch to the face with all his strength behind it.

>>723232349
It's been stated that if iceman ever learned how to fully control his powers he'd be able to freeze time itself. Practically unstoppable.

>>723232225
>forgetting the hulk has unmeasurable strength
Except he doesn't. He can only keep growing stronger for as long as he can keep getting angry, and if you overtax his healing factor, he can only get angry as a normal human would; he gets limits on just how many neurotransmitters he can produce to make the emotion (chemical reaction) of anger. As soon as you start overtaxing his healing factor, his time is limited. This issue has been directly touched on in modern hulk canon, come on dude. At least read up before you talk.

>>723235177
Grow up u fucking loser

>>723239615
Says the guy browsing 4chan.

Superman already DID beat Hulk

In one punch

He also beat Thor

In one punch

>>723229284
aaand Martian Manhunter?

>>723240837
Not even close

>>723240458
>He also beat Thor
Bullshit.

>>723241130
You seriously think Supes doesn't outclass thor in every single way?

>>723240837
J'onn is powerful, but fire as a weakness?
He's fucked.

>>723241158
No. I don't. I'd put Thor just above Wonder Woman.

>>723241130
http://static.srcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-versus-thor.jpg

>>723241227
>Thor's hammer is magic

>Superman is weak to magic

>Thor PLUS a weapon which Superman is weak to couldn't even put a scratch on Superman

That puts Superman retardedly above Thor's level

>>723241227
Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

>>723241336
>You proved me wrong, better act like a nigger

Kek

>>723241256
>Thor's hammer is magic
>Anon doesn't actually read thor

>>723241355
I can bring up picture of The Punisher killing every superhero.
Does that make it true? Quit being autistic.

>>723231286
yet you atheist retards use the same question " well uh what came before God?" it's hypocritical lying buffoon. You'd have to be mentally challenged or extremely angry to be an atheist kys

>>723241370
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Mjolnir

>Origin
>Unique, Magical, Asgardian

There's only one universe in which it's not magic and that isn't it

>>723241398
The Avengers/JLA crossover was canon

They fought once and Superman is 1-0. There's no reasonable way to say that Thor could beat Superman when he in fact, did not beat Superman

>>723241443
>cites a wiki anyone can change
k

>>723241501
>Attacks the source instead of the actual argument

Got anything at all saying it's not magical?

>>723229284
you forgot Kim Jong Un

>>723241544
common sense lol, but i wont argue with a retard, i learned that lesson a long time ago

>inb4 T-THAT'S RIGHT, RUN AWAY, PROVE I WON!!!

>>723241601
>Trying to save face by predicting the fact that I'm going to point out that you can't manage an argument

>Trying to save face at all on an anonymous forum

This is the one place you could just said "Oh, ok I was wrong. Thanks" and no one will ever know or really care

>>723241424
I never said I was an atheist and I'm not, but nice projecting.

>>723241663
>believes in big bang
>not atheist
then you're just another flavor of retarded

>>723241739
You don't know what I believe. Arguing over the internet won't make you any smarter either.

>>723233708
faggot

>>723241655
I could, but I'm sick of typing with just my left fucking hadn and i'm tired and I got fired from my job and the stump where my forearm used to be hurts like a bitch and my girlfriend is taking forever to get home with pills for the pain, so I'd rather act like a cunt on 4chan to try and make other people as unhappy as I am.

Also you're wrong nigger, fuck off.

>>723241773
>mugatu
wow your really are stupid aren't you.

>>723241813
jumanji