Give a society to black people were they aren't discriminated

>>722892789

America right now.

And a laughably low percentage become successful people.

>>722892898
>America right now
That's the point

>A low percentage of people become successful
No shit sherlock!.

>>722892789
>where they aren't enslaved

Good fucking luck, nigger. Ever wonder why everyone had african slaves? Because they bought them. They were already enslaving their own people and sold them so they could be the biggest warlord of their tiny little tribes. Blacks aren't successful as a race because they're the only ones dumb enough not to gtfo of africa 100,000 years ago.

>>722893376

What do you consider successful?

To me being able to provide for your family with money left over to enjoy life is successful. To some its making $1,000,000 a year. To others its not drinking booze for the day.

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>>722892898


poverty is hard to escape. Blacks have been in poverty forever. They are not personally discriminated against, but most of them are born into places where opportunities are scarce

>>722894100
Fucking this, is different.

When you are white and your grandfather already own a house, a car, a jod and a whole family that help him while if you are black your grandfather was discriminated, could't afford to go to school or college, couldn't find a decent jod (discrimination), and his father probably was a slave and don't own a house.

Which values can a slave teach to his son? This is why some criminals are black, they were not raised in the same way.

>nice dubs

>>722893816
>To me being able to provide for your family with money left over to enjoy life is successful.
Pretty much this

>>722895126
Thanks.

>>722895394
>a good person in 4chan
that's new

>>722892789
There are blacks at high levels in almost every field. Rising to the top is a multigeneration project, and a half century ago they couldn't even use the same bathroom.

>>722895672
Yes that's pretty much my point.

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>>722893816
>where is your mclaren and your kardashian white boi?

bumperino

>>722892789
Like Africa?

>>722895597
>taking 4chan seriously
You may have a problem there.

>>722896879
>born in a desert without food and water makes it easier to create a society

>>722897172
That was the first time somebody didn't tell me to kill myself

>>722897208
Africa is rich in natural resources
Humanity originated there and is still there now so don't give me that shit

Black prosperity implodes every time because of black envy. It's biblical. They can't escape it. So give them their own society and they will be Kings and then become slaves and warlords.

>>722892789
South Africa for example

>>722897552
Or Liberia and Somalia

>>722897435
There are many theories as to why people in africa and places like it are not as advanced as the western powers, none of which being that they are inferior.

>>722895126

Job. It's a fucking "b" you knuckledragger.

>>722897435
Africa is rich in SOME natural resources.

A few people have worked on mapping the best areas, regarding resources and climate and so on, and have found Europe to be pretty much the best place to live. There was a book written about this, although I don't remember the title of it.

>>722897774

because they quite possibly are. Black people have existed longer than whites, yet still live in mud hunts and, for the most part, only advanced with the help of other races around them.

The only people who are on the same level of them are the lost tribals in South America... and THEY have an excuse.

... they've never been introduced to white people.

>>722897774
I never said they were but there has been enough food and water to keep them going from the dawn of humanity until now so try again

>>722894100

Know who else got shat on when there were here? Chinese railworkers.

Dont see many chinese out rioting, looting and burning down the town when they dont get their way.

>>722898125


But let's all be square here... we're all just slaves to the corporations that run our planet and always will...

until our alien ancestors come back.

... then they probably still will anyway.

>>722897876
Like everywhere else then
You trade what you have a lot of for what you have less of, like every other fucking place does. Stop blaming whitey

>>722897435
>that's why people starve to death there
sorry son

>>722898371

They did, m'dood. They traded people for resources... cause that's what they had the most of. XD

>>722892789
Moar like this
http://streamboobs.com

>>722898396

You could argue they starve to death there because of over-population and lack of farming...

>>722898263
They werent enslaved and were not being persecuted for as long as the blacks.

>>722892789
0.000001

>>722898396
People starve to death in every fucking country in the world

>>722897848
Good "job", you know english, but what's your opinion?

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Niggers will never succeed.

4chan discord here:

https://discord.gg/ezrFyVm

>>722898674

I've been posting my opinions, but if you can't fucking spell a three letter word like "job" properly, maybe I see why the community isn't getting any.

>>722898353
lost

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They even seized it via violent revolution just like 'merica. Conditions there? Shit. They're actually kinda nice people though, black people make a lot more sense without hip-hop around to promote gang warfare, racial terrorism and anti-intellectualism.

>>722892789
>Give a society to black people were they aren't discriminated or enslaved and see how a percentage become successful people.

Liberia. Founded by former slaves and other blacks from the US in the 19th century. Fast forward to 2017, still a shithole. The descendants of the Americans hold the power and are more or less in a constant state of war and/or are actively trying to oppress natives. The entire continent had eons of a head start on Europe, the far east, the pacific islands, and especially the Americas. It's completely loaded with natural resources, abundant land. Despite all of these advantages, other than a few jewels along the coasts, the vast majority of the entire continent remains in the stone age. It's poor. It's dirty. It's not developed. It's stagnant. And it's mired in ancient mysticisms. Working hypothesis - these people are not capable of anything better.

>>722898586
Half century ago they couldn't even use the same bathroom and today they are rich millonaires.

Wait 200 years and see how they develop

>>722898880

What dude? I mean, the corporations work together the the governments to control the masses by giving them privileges disguised as "rights" so they can take them at will, forever keeping the minority under heel.

Also, the idea that humanity was created by an ancient visiting alien race that bred us for slavery and worship, then abandoned us isn't too far fetched. It makes more sense then anything religion peddles, since ancient art, stone work, and folklore rudely portrays events involve possible extraterrestrial visits and life forms.

>>722898851
Sorry it's my fourth language

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If you wan't to talk about a disadvantaged people, look at the natives of central and south America. They didn't have any beasts of burden, nor did they have the ability to steal metallurgy from their neighbors, both of which African nations had. However, they've built countless monuments and cities that still stand today, and were incredibly sophisticated for when they were created. For millennia before European nations got involved in Africa, they still didn't create anything nearly as impressive as Machu Pichu, Chichenitza, or Tenochtitlan. Africa is one of the most resource rich continents on Earth and they literally chose to make money selling each other because it was easier.

>>722898942
>Haiti don't have resources

>>722899140

with 17% of the population commiting over 50% of the crime in JUST the US?

They'll collapse in on themselves or bred so far out of control that they'll become a plague of locusts.

Hell, look no further than the 60's. The government built apartment complexes for poor black folk and what did they do?? Destroy them and wreck the local area surrounding them, causing crime and hatred.

But, I'm not saying all black people are horrible... They're are a lot that want to better their communities, family's, and lives... and I love them. They give me hope that we can live together peacefully and build to a better good where everyone is kind & happy... But the majority are fucking shit.

>>722897774
>none of which being that they are inferior
pretty sure that has been the leading theory for hundreds of years up until 2008 when it became illegal to hurt peoples feelings but perfectly fine to pull your penis out in the womens bathroom at the airport

ITT people who know fuckall about civilization asserting that it's just something you do unless you're too stupid

>>722899276

I'm sure it is. Because anytime someone gets corrected in anonymity, back pedal & play the victim.

>>722899200
>somebody take a screenshot
lost again

>>722899519
Kinda hard to "build" something when some white guy keeps wrecking your shit to find shiny rocks and then won't leave

>>722899589

dude... I don't even know, man. I'm really fucking high and watching "Traveling the Stars: Action Bronson and Friends watch Ancient Aliens" and that shit just makes sense.

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>>722899464

It's still a fact that the only thing holding back American blacks is their own hatred.

You see this guy? This is a terrorist, a person who profits from violence. The sooner blacks accept that the better off they'll be.

>>722899494
you really REALLY need to read this

>>722895126

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>>722899811

also, the modern champion of the black people and BLM is a white guy pretending to be black.

>>722899811
i like his music (:

>>722899811
>>722900010
Stop talking shit about Eminem!

>>722892789
>give blacks a country
>country dissolves into anarchy
>blames whitey
how about you niggers start taking care of your own shit and stop telling white people what we need to do for you. you already get 40% of the welfare, make up 40% of the prison population, commit 80% of the violent crime, and are only 13% of the population.

>>722899884

I did read it, and I agree to a point. The black people got raw dogged in the day, and now, they are getting back up. I'm happy for them. Honestly. I want to see everyone step up, and make their lives better...

But at the same time, it's like a 75/100 that want to continue to drag their feet, living a culture that is promoted by the days of old, where the ONLY way to survive was crime. Hell, single parent's are a leading cause to what can be the NEXT downfall for the black people, because men are still wanting to fuck & run, cause that's some hood shit.

I was raised in the projects all my life. I go back & hang out with friends who STILL live there, and I see that it hasn't changed much. That shit makes me sad.

>>722900326
(you) read

>>722894100
>>722895126

>>722899739
white people didnt seriously start colonizing africa until about the 1830s. niggers had been kicking shit around for as long as 200,000 years acording to some studies. sand people and chinamen had already had for 11000 years by the time "whitey" came and kicked your mud huts down. try again

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>>722892789
you're not oppressed , you're just weak.

>>722900010
my nigga talcum x is not white, hes a jew just like the naacp faker dolezal

>>722900729

... a white jew.

>>722900564
>Implying all of Europe didn't have a free for all hundreds of years earlier

I'm not sure you should argue history. It's not your subject.

>>722894100
This is true. We should shift the focus off race and into wealth. Work to create more jobs in struggling communities. That can do no harm.

>>722900653
>that's a opinion not a fact

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>>722892789
>Africa

>>722900808

Yeah... in castles, with towns and settlements & farms... and clothes... then made ships & conducted trade with other nations... settled in other countries... then went to Africa and bought people their own countrymen captured and sold...

When did Africans trade with China? India?? Did they settle in other countries?? Hmm... odd.

We did with obama. And he's now going down as the worst president.

>>722901031
we already discuss about it >>722896879

sorry

>>722900808
a few hundred years is entirely meaningless when you consider that for hundreds of thousands of years they had nothing of worth. if after the europeans show up, all that is left in africa is nothing, how is is that the fault of the white man? which, might i add, is not the case. go to one of the parts of africa that is still relatively untouched by the white devil and try to walk back out without your head shrunk

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There is no war but the class war. Everything else is just a distraction.

>>722900897

History is rather proving itself.

Let's look at Zimbabwe. They stole farms from white Africans, gave it to Black Africans, who then RAN THEM INTO THE GROUND...

Then invited them back, since... ya'know... they knew what they were doing

>>722900783
>jew
>white
pick one
>jew
>human
see above

>>722901038
They had no need retard. Why would they leave? In search of gold? That shit was everywhere. Lack of food? It was literally growing everywhere. The only people who farmed were the ones that didn't want to migrate seasonally!

Then some white dude noticed all the gold and things went south. Sound about right?

>>722892789
I recall a black pastor once said "If the US was filled completely with black people the entire USA would be one huge ghetto."
I mean the British gave them all the advancements of the time when they were imperialism, and they destroyed everything.

>>722901224
You know nothing of the world and understand less

>>722901248
Id seize her means of production if you know what I mean comrade

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Gas everyone who can't drink milk and we'll have a better world.

>>722892789
First off, it's called Africa.
Secondly, the African blacks themselves are and were the ones enslaving their own kind.

>>722901437
so your argument has become that we should have let niggers stay in mud huts with ebolaids and that they are somehow worse off than that situation now? im for it. send all the american niggers back. i'll pay out in taxes whatever it takes to send all 40 million back on a cargo freighter since thats what you all want so badly. but if you dare try to come back know youll be executed

As a percentage black women have more college degrees than any other demographic. Look it up

>>722898560
Take an Asian American studies class. They were, and still are, prosecuted way worst in the US history. Yet still they succeed. They're known as a "model minority" because despite their past they still strive and achieve success.

If blacks were like Asians with what they studied, and how they treat others (even themselves), then they'd succeed too.

The greatest deterrent of success for blacks...are blacks who choose to continue acting like blacks.

They have zero excuse.

>>722901437

... then why are they still living in shit mud huts & not an advanced civilization??

>>722901252
>implying that they gave the farm to farmers
Zimbabwe kicked the white people out as a knee jerk reaction as soon as they were able. They just forgot that none of their people had learned to be farmers yet

>>722901533
well, you're at ad hominem now. how long until you call me a poopyhead so we can be done?

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>>722901780
Those everest college ads must really be working during maury.

>>722901931

... thank you for proving my point that they literally acted solely on "WE WAZ KANGS" logic of fuck white people.

They bought the land, worked it for generations, then the government forced them off to give it to fucking idiots because "they were black" and then realized "Herpdaderp, that was fucking stoopid."

>>722901790
it's not even that they simply choose to keep acting like niggers; they will see another person in their community starting to succeed and actively sabotage them. advancing is social suicide in the black community.

>>722892789
>popping champagne = "success"
>waking up in a new bugatti = "success"
>squatting over a diamond toilet = "success"

that's the problem. and not just with black people, either. if money is how you define self worth, you'll always be poor.

>>722901659
we already discuss about it>>722896879

>>722901713
No, my argument was that they were about as advanced as anyone else at the time, but since they lived where all the gold and diamonds were the rest of the world subjugated them. It's really not fair to completely annihilate someone's culture, lock them in poverty for centuries, and then assert that if they had done a better job maybe things would have turned out better.

>>722901813
>because the white people own all the land just in case they find shinies in it

>>722902187

... That's literally choosing to be a nigger.

>>722902268
>this guy is poor af

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All you need to know.

>>722901659
>Africa
>country
Tard alert

>>722902282
yeah they were as advanced in their mud huts with no drinking water as the europeans who sailed there in ships from their castles. why didnt they fight the europeans and win then?

>>722902282

yup.... because they didn't have the same amount of time as every country around them to advance the same as the countries around them?

Like, India, China, England... all kinda advanced the same ways and time, with slight variation. Africans were like "Nah, m'dood... this is legit."

>>722902567
the op says "society" not country

>>722902151
It was only stupid because they didn't have any black farmers. I'm not sure how you expect people to learn something when they're not allowed at school

>>722902645
>what'sa reading comprehension?

>>722902722

They gave the land to people who WEREN'T farmers. Like, "Hey, I know you guys know fuck all about how to do this... but you want to take a crack at it since we kicked whitey out?"

That just shows that they can't even handle the simple responsibility of governing the land they live on.

>>722902578
>No drinking water
Nobody in the world had drinking water. Do you mean beer?

>>722892789
they already had a society where they were free to do whatever they wanted.

they ended up in a unicef commercial.

>>722902645
they had considerably more time. new studies are showing that homo sapiens evolved about 200k years ago and left africa about 50k ago.

>>722902893
Exactly. Because they DIDN'T HAVE ANY FARMERS to give the land too.

Do you have trouble reading or something?

>>722902578
Riddle of steel.
The Europeans were all barbarians that raped and murdered their neighbors throughout their history and got really good at it. African tribes had much less need because the only thing to fight about was space and there was plenty in all directions

>>722903054

So why take the land from farmers to give it to NOT farmers is the point I'm getting at, moron.

>>722903282
They didn't think about it. Could you have produced a sizeable crop with that land and no information resources?

>>722902902
nobody had access to clean drinking water in the 1600s? my guy the greeks had indoor plumbing 3000 years ago

>>722903223
they had much less need to do what? don't make me spoon feed you nigger. just admit they weren't as advanced. i'm ignoring all the other flaws in your argument just to hear you say it

>>722903419
Clean drinking water is a really new invention. You either filled your water-skin in the river and hoped you wouldn't get sick or you drank beer.

>>722903657
yeah but there have been irrigation and wells in civilized places for millennia. you might get sick and die from drinking dirty water, but at least it wasn't happening on the 30 mile hike to the mudhole you had to take every day

>>722903622
Develope warfare. Nobody stood against the Europeans once they left Europe.

>>722903873
You must be retarded. That's the only explanation I can find in a post so far removed from reality

>>722903893
i guess i will have to spoon feed you. they had less of a reason to advance as a society because x, y, and z. your argument that they were just as advanced as the rest of the world and that its white peoples fault that theyve fallen behind now is entirely baseless on both counts

>>722904039
solid argument, chief

>>722892789
FUCKING IDIOT!!!!! DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH...GOOGLE "LIBERIA" you motherfucking liberal APE!!!!

>>722904100
I bet you think that today's society is more advanced than the Romans, too

>>722901437
No, it doesn't sound about right because no one can make any sense of what you typed. You fucking mong.

>>722892789
we gave niggers their own god damn country after the civil war. Its called liberia and they turned it into a shit hole like everything they touch.

>>722904333
yeah because non-niggers have the ability to advance. is sub-saharan africa of today more advanced than ancient rome? no. was sub-saharan africa more advanced than ancient rome before the arrival of de wyte debbil man? no. never has been and never will be more than a pile of rocks with some monkeys on it

>>722904449
You seem to be the only one having trouble. Can I explain any one part of it slowly and carefully for you?

>>722892789
Zero is a percentage, after all.

>>722903415

"They didn't think about it."

Wow. That's some good, old fashioned, proper governing right there...

And no, because I'm not a farmer. And if my government was like "Hey dude, I took the land from these farmers. Why try it?" I'd have to say No, because I'm not a fucking farmer, are you retarded? Give it back to the damn farmer who owns the land... and is a farmer.

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>>722904333
>implying its not
The machine that took people to the moon had the computing power of a machine that would fit on the tip of a pencil today. Let that sink in and tell me than we aren't more advanced than ancient Rome. Way to waste your trips

>>722904549
Incorrect. We are as advanced today as they Romans were when they fell. Literally the only difference is electricity and the combustion engine, but they already had steam engines and analogue computers for navigation

>>722904851
>we are just as advanced
>the only differences are several major advancements.

>>722904771
But what if your government just said they were going to give you land? Would you jump at the offer or ask a thousand questions like "where will the food come from?"

>>722904807
See
>>722904851

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>>722904626
Way to finally slow down and use grammar and order your thoughts before letting your mental diarrhea splash onto the internet. KYS.

>>722904967

I'd be highly suspicious... since the government doesn't just give anyone stuff for free.

But let's be honest, that's NOT what they did. The Government of Zimbabwe stole land from whites farmers to give to black people to be farmers.

That is just... no. It's retarded. Literally retarded.

>>722904913
Those are actually pretty minor things

>>722905029
See
>>722904913

>>722905033
>I can't form a coherent argument so I'll call you a retard and leave before you notice

>>722905207
see
>>722905183

>>722892789

Liberia.

So...yeah.

>>722905183

Yup. Being able to instantly contact a single person across the globe on various mediums is a pretty minor thing. As is safe drinking water, the ability to fly, medicine that allows you to live into your 80's, not fucking teenagers, and... hmm... oh! Pasteurization!

>>722895126
>how about the value of hard work?

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>>722905207
>>722905269
Can this dude possibly be for real?

>>722905165
No, that is exactly what they did. They took the land from all the white people that were getting the boot and said "hey, let's put some people on this land" without giving thought to how it would be used or how that would affect them.

>>722901641
>it's funny because the father never comes home

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>>722905635

I love how you keep missing how that is entirely terrible. In every way.

>>722905413
The Romans lived as long as we do today, had clean drinking water, good medicine. Only thing on that list is instantaneous communication which actually requires infrastructure all the way from one point to the other.

>>722902722
Who do you think worked the farms?

>>722905785
I never approved of it

More asians and irish were enslaved than nignogs

>>722899811
According to your example all militaries are terrorists also police and like athletes

>>722906036
>minimum wage employees that never came back

>>722906089
as a mick, indentured servitude and slavery were, on paper, very different things. in practice a lot of lines got blurred but an indentured servant wasnt your property, you just owned their time until the debt was paid

>>722905948

Google, my friend. Average life expectancy of ancient Roman's was 35. You COULD reach your 50's, but rarely.

And yeah, let's just cut out satellite links for communication.

>>722905948
>>722905413
Except for flight. But that's an unintended side effect of combustion engines

>>722906416
The Greek's average age was 70

>>722892789

Really worked out for Africa.

>Kicked out white politicians in the 90s
>City towns turn to trash heaps in a matter of a year

>Kick out white miners
>Cant even use the equipment so their equipment just sits and rots

>Kicked out the farmers
>CUZ DEY WUZ WHITE
>Starve

>>722906416
>thinks communication is done with satellites
Very few kinds of communication go through satellites, cheaper that way

>>722906418
we made combustion engines and they just accidentally started flying around?

>>722906514
>>722906416
http://www.revealedrome.com/2012/06/ancient-rome-daily-life-women-age.html
This says if you didn't die by 10 then you'd live to be at least 50. Drop the dead children and they'd have pretty much the same life expectancy

>>722898805

This is what the Rothschild's want, so it shall be.

>>722906836
No, but they guy that was looking to disrupt Tomas Watts steam engine empire didn't think that what he was working on was the trick to flight

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>>722906418
>>722905948
>>722905183
>>722904851
this dude is this meme but with julius caesar and im too lazy to bust open paint

>>722906672

Incorrect, its actually an even split between land/sea cable and satellite

Oxy Moron

>>722907209
OK then, there's a 50% chance that you need infrastructure from point A to B

>>722907426
I don't think it works like that
It's not just pot luck, people spent years thinking this shit through

>>722907576
Obviously. That was my original point with the infrastructure

>>722907894
Then it's not a 50% chance
It's not like they just tossed a coin on it

>>722908627
>half of communications go through satellites
>I make a call
>there is a __% chance it will go through a satellite

Fill in the blank

>>722892789
Africa.

>>722908903
It's not fucking random cunt
In some areas it'll be a wired connection, in others the signal is bounced off satellites but it's all designed and predermined

>>722909132
So from a non-specified point on the globe you would have a 50% chance of having your communication passed through a satellite, and a 50% chance that it'll go through the wires, right?

>>722903657

Technicality, but it was more likely mead, no?

Which is, basically, more watered down beer - but /b/ is autistic enough to pull that difference out of its ass to call you stupid.

>>722909508
Mead is honey-wine. Most cultures brewed beer because they just needed to grow hops rather than gather honey, but any brewed beverage is safe to drink.

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>>722909878

Yeah, I know at least the last bit. Forgot which it was.

Carry on, mate.

>>722905462
Sure = work hard and you will be somebody one day from somebody who work hard all his life and got nothing and never get paid

>>722902282
No one cared about diamonds until DeBeers cornered the market, jacked the prices up sky high and started that "A Diamond is forever" bullshit in the early par5t of the 20th century.

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>>722911226
Incorrect. Why didn't people use quartz instead if that were the case?

>>722911967
Quartz isn't rare. People buy into rarity even if the rarity is caused by artificial means. Look at Magic and Pokémon cards. They're just printed cardboard but people pay hundreds of dollars for a single card.