Climate change debate continued from >>722849930

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>>722863828
No, anon. Counting the US citizens that are under the age of 15 when multiplying to get car emmissions figures is retarded.
Multiplying cars x emissions is concise.
You cannot into brain, I recommend getting a job involving lifting heavy things.

its not a debate tho. It just is.

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>>722864101
>any of this matters

>>722864101
Its' a religion. i.e. "blind faith"

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/04/the_religion_of_global_warming.html

>>722864101
This. Any anon claiming "source" is just being a trolling dipshit. The question is, what do we do about climate change?

1. Unseat the Republicans

>>722864225
>Any anon claiming "source" is just being a trolling dipshit
You got a link to back that up?

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>>722864210
american stinker

>>722864297
>>722864002

>>722864225
>Any anon claiming "source" is just being a trolling dipshit

translation: don't question me, just believe what I post as absolute undisputed truth!

>>722864225
>stop requiring sources for my outrageous bullshit

top kek

>>722864210
Religion isnt based on scientific facts :)

>>722864364
do you need a "source" for air or water, anon?

>>722864386
Neither is the believe in "man made" climate change.

>>722864385
do you get this mad at your mom when she tells you to do stuff?

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>>722864451
>is the believe

>>722864002
Everyone knows anthropomorphic climate change is a hoax.

Solar-cycle driven climate change, however, is real.

>>722864385
when all the world leaders, scientist and all the most intelligent people agree. Maybe those making up outrageous bullshit are the deniers, just a thought.

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>>722864457
>triggered

lol

>>722864514
This.

And it coincides perfectly with the warming and cooling cycles experienced here on our planet.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

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>>722864514
>muh alternate facts

>>722864605
>pepe

this is now a cringe thread

Man muricans actually argue about shit like this. Anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, climate change-deniers.
You can tell they arent a white country anymore.

>>722864514
>>722864616
samefagging

>>722864553
>when all the world leaders, scientist and all the most intelligent people agree
>no source

Every. Single. Time. Holy Shit.

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capitalists falling for our climate change memes

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>>722864553
>the most intelligent people
>politicians

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My fucking sides

>>722864616
>The simplest answer is usually the correct one.
that man is causing it

glad you agree :^)

>>722864616
as simple as
more c02 = warmer atmosphere?

>>722864658
>niggers are fueling the climate change denial

lolwut

>>722864514
This, it's why no attention should be paid to the man made climate change shills, they are dumber than a box of rocks

>>722864674
you wont believe in sources tho.
>>722864688
its funny how Hawkins, Gates, Musk can all be fooled by a scheme that only a handful of rednecks who failed preliminary school could see through

>>722864690
The sun vs man

Which one has more influence on the earth's climate?

If you said man, you're a moron.

Proof:
Take away man, how much will the climate change?

Take away the sun, how much with the climate change?

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>>722864674
Faggot we know your game
we could link the most scienty scientiest science brief ever published and you'd still be a faggot about it.

You aren't interested in science, you're interested in waving your little pee pee at us. :^)

>>722864386
>Implying real science has to do with it, and it isn't corruption between grant seekers and governments looking for more control over their people.

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>>722864690
>climate change is man made

lmfao xD

>>722864809
You make this sound so philosophical, lol

There really isn't a debate here, faggot. Study after study, model after model. We're shitting up the place, not the sun.

>>722864210
>religion
Remove all books and cultural references to Jesus Christ and in 1000 years Christ will be an unknown.
Remove all scientific studies and datum regarding global warming and in 100 years the global climate will still react to heat trapping gasses in the atmosphere.
Fucking science idiot.

>>722864825
>translation, I have no sources for my crackpot claims

We're onto you bud

>>722864002
climate change is real. the evidence is obvious to anyone over 30 who still uses their brain.
how much of it is due to human activity is debatable due to the fact that panic publishing is prevalent in some scientific and pseudo scientific fields.
add to that the fact that bad news sells, whether it's true or not, and you have media outlets spinning up the subject with false news, lack of source examination and verification, and the public has a lot of reason to doubt the veracity of the claim that the earth is warming at an accelerating rate.

i'm just going to sit back and watch what the weather does before i pass judgement as to whether or not it's real.

>>722864847
ah yes, its much easier to convince scientist all over the globe since the 70s to come toghether and create a scheme that will ruin the oil and coal industry just so they can impose the same regulations and tax hikes they impose every year without any reason whatsoever.

>>722864514
So explain to us how the planet has been warming even during a period of solar minimum?

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>>722864866
>laughing at science

>>722864210
This is true. Atheists don't believe in a creator or a higher power than themselves. The thought of it scares them quite frankly. Therefore they also believe that they have the power to change the weather, change the climate, and change the universe. They see themselves as much more substantial than they really are, so their other beliefs are only an offshoot of the first one.

>>722864970
we're way past sources m8

>>722865022
Control dude, if you can scare your populace about their very future, you have total control over them. The side effects are just casualties of the control.

>>722865093
this is a debate about the environment
not religious beliefs.
STFU and GTFO

>>722865187
Anthropogenic climate change IS religion, and Gaia and Government are the gods.

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>>722865093
>agreeing with American Stinker

>>722865093
so, would you say that if we set off all the worlds nukes it wouldn't do anything?

>>722865245
If that's true, why haven't you been struck down by now?

>>722865187
They both stem from the same place. The lack of religious beliefs create the false belief that one is bigger than one's self, and can therefore have a greater impact on the things around them than they actually do.

>>722865171
because its much easier to convinve hundreds of thousands of scientist across every country on earth to create a hoax that you yourself can test the validity for, than to just make up a terrorist attack or something?

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>>722865093

>>722865286
Only for a brief moment in time, and then it would revert back to the norm.

>>722865319
why not both?
the right uses terrorism for power and fearmongering purposes, and the left uses anthropogenic climate change for power and fearmongering purposes.

>>722865387
>half a million years
>brief moment in time

Trumpfag spotted

>>722865293
>implying it is a true religion with real power outside of politics.

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>>722865387

>>722865255
>I didn't read the article

They never said anything about God, a Creator, or classic religions. They only talked about the "religion of global warming", and why it could be a religion.

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>>722865451
>durr my side doesn't suck, every side has to

>>722865603
I don't usually read vomit

>>722865319
the "scientists" are nothing more than "smart people" with their hands out to government looking for money, and the government is the one with the agenda that puts the money in the their hands. Its corruption.

>>722865451
> why not both

Because its LITERALLY impossible to convince EVER scientist to join in on the scheme and to skew EVERY number.

I coiuld litterally just trap co2 in a box and notice how it gets hotter than the one with o2 in it. And I can figure out that 7 500 000 000 000 people constantly producing c02 and cutting down the forest handling that c02 could increase temperature on earth.

>>722865464
how old is the earth again?

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>>722864225
>Anyone who provides evidence is a troll

>>722865662
>I let others tell me what to believe and think

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>>722865715

>>722864002
Climate change is most certainly real and has been going on for millenia but there's no "reputable" evidence that it is man made.

>>722864514
>Solar Cycle driven

Then why has solar output been steadily decreasing?

>>722865719
What does that have to do with you believing that a nuclear holocaust is somehow harmless to humanity?

>>722865718
see>>722865715
and not every scientists agrees.
rofl... you are also only saying that CO2 is the only greenhouse gas, and there arent other mechanisms that have the opposite effect, the planet isnt 1 dimensional like that.

>>722864002
The climate has been changing for the last four and a half billion years.

Get over it.

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>>722865756
>evidence
>climate change denial

>>722865776
>I need to control what others should think

>>722865715
/thread

Sad thing is so many morons buy into the hoax. Mostly left wing retards it has to be noted.

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>>722865827

>>722865715
Also the government in the form of NASA and NOAA provides nearly all of the data used by these scientists. The have already been caught doing things like moving temp sensors on terra firma to questionable places like right next to AC units or on hot rooftops. They have also lied about the actual positions of oceanic sensors, leading scientists to believe that the ice caps were in much worse shape than they actually are.

>>722865715
Im sure government is thrilled with science telling them that they have to dismantle their trillion dollar oil industry.

>>722864002
ITT: Trump supporters jump on board to run the risk of destroying the planet trillions of years before it naturally would, just to MAGA.
Just to clarify, I'm no democrat. However, I'm also no fool.

>>722864866
>Are yoo serious???
Hello Carl.

>>722865893
Brief moment in the big picture.

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>>722865901
>durr scientists r kurrupt

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>>722865901

>>722864002
join if you like dicks https://discord.gg/Sae7aJr

>>722864002
Climate Change is real
Humans are not the cause

>>722866154
ya, cuz government and scientists and as pure and clean as the wind driven snow.

You might wanna look up the East Anglia emails regarding Temperature tampering, then tell me the same thing.

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>>722866084
>infowars told me a bunch of shit
>i believed it

>>722866044
considering all the smartest people on the planet seems to agree, how does that fit into your world view?

>>722866183
What is a graph supposed to tell me?
>No source
>anyone with some computer skill can make up a false graph.

>>722866241
>the East Anglia emails
>old debunked news is exciting

>>722865077
>posts no evidence it's man made

lol

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>>722865093
>I know the inner thoughts and feelings of all atheists
>therefore climate change is bullshit

>>722866241
you fucking mongoloid, there are other scientist than those employed by US government.

>>722866084
>fake news / alternative facts / right-wing propaganda

>>722864002
Environmental conservation is arbitrary.
Even if humans were the cause of the minuscule change in the climate, by the time it begins to actually effects the ecosystem, technology should be advance enough to make greater counter measures if development over the past decade is any indicator.
And if the advancement of technology is not fast enough, and the climate does drastically effect the globe....so fucking what?

The better question you should ask is whether or not we should stop any climate change.
>"muh grandchildren"
will probably die of various other things before it effects humans drastically
>"muh animals and trees"
will evolve and adapt like they have in the past
>"humanity's future"
space

call it edgy or apathetic, but it's quite literally pointless to argue whether or not "climate change" is a thing or that it's caused by human volition, because by the time it's too hot or too cold either
1. life adapts
2. humans create measures to reverse it
3. WW3 / meteor / [foreseeable apocalypse scenario here]

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>>722866265
>considering all the smartest people on the planet seems to agree
>no source

lol

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>>722866323

>>722866265
>source
>my ass

>>722866344
rofl, East Anglia is in Britain.
Why do you think I was referring to the US only?

>who is the Mongoloid now?

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>>722866405
>durr pwoove it wibs

>>722866318
credible source on debunk?

>credible

>>722866323
There isn't any, it's all paid for studies where the outcome is agreed beforehand.

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>>722866451
>thinks man made climate change is fake
>calls other posters Mongoloids

>>722866318
>East Anglia emails

things that never actually happened.... the post.

see >>722866364

>>722866424
He's not wrong..

>>722866405
Look up any intelligent person. I guess Stephen Hawkins is a dumb libtard in your world. Its funny because youre a dumb retard in everyone elses world

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>>722866480
>translation, you're right, I have jack shit proofs

lmfao xD

>>722866391
>Climate Change will not effect us or life

>What is Venus

>>722866317
co2 and heating has been directly correlated throughout history :)
If you want to know how potent a heating agent co2 is just look at venus m8

>>722866561
you didnt answer the question.

but proceed with the ad hominems please, it adds credibility on your part.

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>>722866502
>East Anglia
You already know nothing came of it.

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>>722866561
>climate change is man made

top kek

>>722866565
kind of a hypocrite, though

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>>722866604
>y u no pwoove it wib

>>722864002
Before it was climate change it was global warming. Before it was global warming it was global cooling.

And not to mention that 30 years ago they were saying we were going to see a new ice age in ten years.

Libtards gonna libtard

>>722866451
shit man. Britain cant even stay with the rest of europe but they can be a part of the global conspiracy

15 posters in this thread. And I almost believed the autism levels were rising through the population, nope just highly concentrated ITT.
Assuming these aren't bots sent by trump, for those asking where the proof that it exists lies, where's the proof that it doesn't? Where's your sources? Alex jones?
Fucking kek

>>722864002
climate does change due to humans and water takes the heat. Thats why air warmed up only by a degreee

>>722866662
not that anon
keep fishing for old debunked news
that'll show us libs

>>722866647
like i said before, the planet isn't one dimensional like that.
you are assuming CO2 is the only change agent and nothing else works in reverse to it.
You cant take 1 piece of the puzzle out of context and throw away everything else.
Also, to screech so much about climat change ignores the fact the planet and been much warmer and cooler than it is presently, yet here we still are.
It also assumes that the way it is now must never change and is somehow.. optimal, which is also a laugh... It was changing before we were here and be changing long after we are gone.

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>>722864002
TL;DR- Any and all global warmers are fucking retarded.

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>>722866691

>>722866891
Do you understand what a correlation is?

I mean sure, if you want 500 million refugees then youll be happy. The rest of us dont want that.

>>722864002
guise guise I have a solution.

I grew up hearing about the coming of the next ice age because of all of the air pollution in the atmosphere blocking out the sunlight, and therefore blocking the heat. I was told over and over that by the year 2000, we'd be in a second ice age. This propaganda was being pushed by the very same people pushing AGW now.

Good did come from it though, as we cleaned up a lot of the pollution that was prevalent at the time.

So, why don't we just undo that? Let's smog things up again, which will block out the sunlight, causing the earth to cool.

Or maybe we should just not listen to these ass clowns, because they were wrong then, and they are wrong now, and are using the same old hoax with a newer revision for the same exact reason. To gain more power and control over us.

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>>722866806
>durr science is wying to me
>WYING

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>>722866607
>not at all what I typed/said nor my point
>not even a good strawman

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>>722866965

>>722867043
do you understand what fraud is?
do you enjoy being lied to?
cuz i sure dont.

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>>722866891
> i nose more than sky in tists

>>722867045
you might be retarded.

The reasons why have been explained in this very thread!

>>722867045
cuz muh pa told me dat when we was makin dat shine.

>found the redneck retard

>>722867160
>I don't enjoy being lied to

then why did you vote for Trump?

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>>722867053
>science
>no source

Found the bullshitting libturd lol

>>722866806
The favorite lies of the deniers; The 70’s Ice Age Scare
http://climatecrocks.com/2013/06/07/the-1970s-ice-age-myth-and-time-magazine-covers-by-david-kirtley/

>>722867160
then get some education and stop lying to yourself.

>>722866891
Yes and at one point in time using mitochondrial DNA analysis the human population was bottle necked down to maybe a few hundred individuals. Variability in the natural world can have very real impact on the human species. We survived a natural cycle by the skin of our teeth, adding fuel to the fire might make the cycle shift to where we can't adapt, even with technology. It seems very conservative to hedge against this possibility, the drag on the economy will be minor. The rewards for human and environmental health will be worth even if we end up not needing to hedge against the end of our kind.

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>>722867251
>still waiting for pwoof wib

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>>722867275
>get some education

>If all the scientist are right and were wrong our entire planet is fucked for thousands of years.
> but if were right nothing happens
> better risk the planet!

Climate change denial logic

The earth isn't going to last forever anyway. There is nothing we can do to change that. The sun will one day go to the next stage, and earth will be done. Before that, we face many other dangers like a meteor strike.

We need to be focusing on space travel, and colonizing other planets. Not some stupid bullshit which in the long run will be meaningless anyway.

Like it or not we will be transitioning out of a fossil fuels economy in the next 75 years due to strictly market forces. Propping up a dying industry would be like subsidizing saddle manufacturing or whale oil producers.

>>722864002
Problem is most of the climate change religion (that's what it is, believing without proof) don't understand the difference between climate change (a real phenomenon that has existed as long as the planet has) and "global warming" which is a bullshit based assumption that human beings are driving climate changes that have been occurring on this plant far longer than the human species has existed. Morons. You just know these people all voted for Hillary Clinton too.

>>722865387
>>722865286
>>722866142
>nukes are OK because the earth = 5 billion years old

stupid Trumpfag

>>722867443
shell teach Trumps climate change denial to all the kids.
Spoiler:
> the chinese did it

>>722867578
>assumption

wrong. there is 100% solid proof, which is beyond debate.

>>722867578
>the climate change religion
stopped reading here

>>722867235
>Implying i voted for Trump.

Wow leftists and their stereotypes are laughable.
So quick to the ad hominems and assumptions that are unbased.

>>722867563
We can do this in our solar system to a degree but don't underestimate how far everything is apart in space. We won't be close to colonizing any satellite or planet on a scale of self sufficiency in anything close to the next 150 years. It's stupid to not deal with immediate future problems by worrying about our sun going off main sequence in another billion or so years.

>>722867578
A vast and ever-growing body of research shows that warming is tracking the rise of greenhouse gases exactly as the models predict. The physical evidence becomes more dramatic every year: forests retreating, animals moving north, glaciers melting, wildfire seasons getting longer, higher rates of droughts, floods, and storms—five times as many in the ‘00s as in the 1970s.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36228/ballad-of-the-sad-climatologists-0815/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/science/earth/20fossil.html?_r=0

http://www.examiner.com/article/exxonmobil-climate-change-deniers-and-global-warming-follow-the-money

>>722867578
how can you be so completely devoid of logical thinking?

>>722867683
inb4 durr source
which is met with durr liberal scientists=paid off by Hillery
durr

god this thread is retarded

>>722867363
Burden of proof is on the tinfoilers bud

>>722867043
post hoc ergo propter hoc

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>>722867683
>wrong. there is 100% solid proof, which is beyond debate.
>no source

lol

>>722867652
>I don't have basic comprehensive skills

No one ever said anything about nukes being okay. The point was that man can't change the planet as much as he would like to think. Only briefly.

But hey, I know that goes against your "religion" so...

>>722867710
>i voted for Trump.
but of course you did
Trump agrees with you on this subject, that it's liberal sjw bullshit being used to enact liberal fascism.

Funny how you faggots sound and act like Trump but oddly choose to distance yourself from him.

>>722867693
I always stop at (((climate change is man made)))

Trying to engage science deniers is like looking into the eyes of a goat: nothing there but the soulless determination to keep on keeping on, truth be damned.

>>722867745
Got any real sources?

>>722867777
http://www.unhcr.org/climate-change-and-disasters.html

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>>722867767
pic related

>>722867859
I didnt vote for Trump.
But of course, you know that, cuz you were in the voting booth with me.
>liberal "logic"

>>722867745
The normal harbingers of spring are now appearing a full 5 weeks earlier than when I was a kid. I used to see crocus in late Feb and cherries on towards mid March. I now commonly hear spring peeper frogs emerging from winter torpor in late January. We are getting fireflies by late April, a sign of summer.

Things are changing, and changing quick.

>>722867841
>posting the same faggotry again

>>722864002
There is no "climate change" aka global warming.
>prove it without falsified, government-funded data
>protip: you can't

>>722867844
The point is you said something stupid, got called out on it, and are doubling down twice now.

>>722867921
Science is still out on the subject, experts are all divided.

>>722867974
And other useful information like chemtrails

>>722867884
>this is why I'm stupid

kek

>>722867922
All three major global surface temperature reconstructions show that Earth has warmed since 1880. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/anomalies/index.html

Most of this warming has occurred since the 1970s, with the 20 warmest years having occurred since 1981 and with all 10 of the warmest years occurring in the past 12 years. http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature

Even though the 2000s witnessed a solar output decline resulting in an unusually deep solar minimum in 2007-2009, surface temperatures continue to increase. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp

>>722867986
>being this evasive

faggot, you think, act and fart like Trump
especially on this subject

>>722868039
>obviousbait.jpg

>>722868001
>expecting a different response to the same bullshit claims

lol

>>722868048
>chemtrails
if only they were liquid LSD

>>722868111
>bullshit claims
>the overwhelmingly vast consensus of science

stupid Trumpfag

>>722864002
Indisputable fact: Increased carbon dioxide encourages plant growth, which increases oxygen output. It is impossible to get one change without the other changing.

>>722867859
this!

They silence Milo (who btw I don't agree with, but he is entitled to speak), so they shut him down by violence, all while calling him a NAZI. They're too fucking stupid to realize that Nazis shut down their opposition with violence.

The left's SJW movement is cancer, and destroying the democrat party. Now they're doubling down on this bullshit strategy which is why they lost the election in the first place. Too blind to see the obvious I guess.

>>722867988
"Fire season" in the Western United States is increased 70 days over the past 30 years.

>>722868092
I voted for Johnson, i am a registered Libertarian.
>leftists and their duality.
>if you don't agree with me, you must be on the 1 other side.
>1 other side.
haha.

>>722868039
Only 34 of 33,700 scientists rejected human responsibility for global warming in peer-reviewed climate articles (Powell).
A link to the abstract of the original survey that debunked the lie that the scientific community was split on a human role in global warming:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702/1686.full

You illiterate fucking nigger

>>722868031
The point is that you clearly can't see the bigger picture.

kek

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>>722868178
>can't handle being called a Trumpfag
>the left are the real fascists

>>722868178
>moronic babble fest

Found the Trumptard

>>722868178
Without conversation we have nothing. Without debate we have nothing.

People are either allowed to talk, or they bring guns to the battle. It is the way it is.

Without free speech, valuing free speech we will sink into oblivion, no matter how good the ideas on the left are.

Free speech is the absolute most important freedom we have.

>>722868163
>the overwhelmingly vast consensus of science
>no proofs

Suuuuuuure lol

>>722868189
You can keep making excuses. The point is the President in office now agrees with 100% of what you've been posting here. And yet you claim to not support him.

>>722868350
free speech yes. hate speech no. milo is hate speech.

>>722868278
The point is you're a pseudo-science dipshiat like Newt Gingrich. It's a good thing you're not anywhere near a position of power so that your ideas might be taken seriously.

>>722868266
>sciencemag

sciencemag is garbage, and not to be taken seriously.

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>>722868391
>still waiting for pwoof wib
>y u no pwoove

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>>722868266
>reputable source
>sciencemag

My sides!

>>722868266
We're not privy to the data. You are not privy to the data, so stop acting like you are.

Fact:
Anyone that even questions man made climate change is vilified.

It's like questioning institutional racism - the subject is completely toxic.

You can only get funding if your agenda is man made climate change today.

>>722868451
You do realize you're allowing yourself to be derailed by a troll who can't handle being saddled as an anti-science Trumpfag?

.

>>722868178
>damage control

>>722868476
Their sources are right there, with some knowledge about computers you can easily follow them :)

>>722868409
I dont support him because i dont agree with his economics, his authoritarianism, and his narcissism drives me crazy, much like yours does.

>>722868059
NOAA and NASA have both been caught falsifying data, as well as whistleblowers coming up to prove such. Gavin Smith and the European scientists admitted the bulk of their data comes from the NOAA.

Whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, this month provided evidence that the most important research paper -- the basis for the UN's climate policy -- was based on bogus, ‘unverified’ data.

>>722868545
>Anyone that even questions man made climate change is vilified.

Good. That's how it should be.

>>722868545
Anybody can access the data from the NOAA Global Earth Orbiting Satellites.

>>722868451
Milo questions ideas, not races, not hate speech.

Even the KKK is allowed to speak in free and open society.

Free speech includes ideas that make you uncomfortable. Ideas that you are against. But, you have voice the reasons why your'e against it.

Not set fire to your own university.

>>722864451
who gives a fuck if it's "man made" or not you corporate cock sucker

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>>722868565
>I am a name-calling superhero with unmatched powers.

>>722868573
And yet I don't see you speaking out against Trump's climate change denial faggotry.

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>>722868504
>i'm talking out of my ass with no proof
>just believe me damn you REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

hahaha

>>722868599
>was based on bogus, ‘unverified’ data
Bates wasn't even involved in the study he's making claims about. You are repeating the same Murdoch talking points I see in a dozen different places.

>>722868694
Kek, I hope the fuck you're trolling.

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>>722868698
>being this insecure

>>722868703
Probably cuz i dont deny that climate changes.
By definition, it does indeed change.

>>722868565
>You do realize you're allowing yourself to be derailed by a troll who can't handle being saddled as an anti-science Trumpfag?

I'm not anti-science, but I can know that YOU do not have access to the data.

The data has not shown clearly that climate change is man made.

The climate always changes over the centuries - this is fact.

The highest temperatures ever recorded before the last 30 years. The worst weather phenomena occurred over 30 years ago, this is indisputable fact.

>>722867557
thats just /thread

The way i see it:
34. War is good for business.
35. Peace is good for business.

Meaning it doesn't really matter either way...

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>>722868710
>reeeeee

triggered this hard

>>722868660
Link. And once I have it how will i analyze it? Are you an expert at analyzing data?

The satellites don't contain all the temperature probe data throughout all the oceans. You're reading someone else's input of them.

>>722868842
Smart people have access (and know where to find) the data.

Retarded science-denying trumpfags don't.

>>722868839
Trump actually agrees with you there, too. You suck cheeto cock, and you ass ain't talking its way out of this.

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>>722864002
The climate change hoax was one of the reasons behind Brexit, we now can take our own position in this key area without any EU constraints on our views. Of course dumb remainers to a man all believed the left wing man made hype, thank God we have silenced those idiots.

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>>722868842
>The data has not shown clearly that climate change is man made.

>>722868950
>Retarded science-denying trumpfags don't.

Since Trump voters turned out to be the most educated and earn the most money, then why wouldn't they want the data to look at it?

https://qz.com/679589/trump-voters-earn-more-and-are-better-educated-than-the-typical-american/

>>722868977
We just disagree on how/why.
We will have to agree to disagree.
Talking in circles wont change anyone's opinion, and i refuse to waste more time doing this.

>>722869058
>qz.com

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Google IQ averages in red states vs blue states, then get back to me.

>>722867947
>equating weather and climate disasters as evidence that supports "Climate Change (caused by modern man)"
Didn't know burning fossil fuels would have caused natural disasters in the centuries prior to the industrial revolution.
The ice age and following global warming was caused by cave men working with ancient aliens with their new found fire technology.
Hurricanes occur in the SE of the US because they're dirty climate change deniers and tornadoes happen in the MW because they're against gays and blacks getting married.

>>722868842
>The data has not shown clearly that climate change is man made.
it has
>The climate always changes over the centuries - this is fact.
Never at this pace.
> The highest temperatures ever recorded before the last 30 years. The worst weather phenomena occurred over 30 years ago, this is indisputable fact.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/climate-trends-continue-to-break-records
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5825

did you mean alternative facts?

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>>722869039
>The climate change hoax
>the left wing man made hype

>>722869058
fake news

>>722868571
>it's all in sciencemag

lol no. a REAL source

>>722869111
No disagreement here.
You're just wrong.

>>722869147
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/dec/01/climate-change-trigger-unimaginable-refugee-crisis-senior-military
http://www.livescience.com/54042-climate-change-could-force-coastal-retreat.html
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/nov/03/global-warming-climate-refugees
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23899195

>>722869274
any credible sources?

>>722869135
>>722869210
nope, not fake news. Trump voters earn on average $74-$79K, and it makes sense, as these are the people that are affected most by high taxes that do nothing to help society. (like me)

>>722869226
The thing we could publish links to paper after paper and you'd still be a faggot about man-made climate change.

You're proof that this country really is as stupid af
and that's why we don't have a Climate Change Plan and Trump is in the fucking White House.

>>722864002
There is no debate. The science is absolute, and can't be argued with. Anyone who believes otherwise is an uneducated idiot.

>>722868039
>experts
>"scientists" funded by oil companies

pick one

>>722869385
proof: this thread

>>722869164
Again, you're not privy to the output of the temperature probes. You're not the guy.

As of right now, even questioning man made climate change is like questioning whether or not thousands of black men are being killed every day by policemen.

Or questioning whether or not black people are murdering black people in Chicago, it must be labled "gun crime" - or you get your pants sued off.

>>722869329
It sure is hard to teach a dog calculus.

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>>722869178
>thinking climate change is man made

Oh my god, I can't stop laughing xD

>>722869405
This.

Scientists funded by the tobacco companies in the 40s said that cigarette smoking was harmless, and could actually be good for you in some ways.

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>>722869547
>reposting the same faggotry over and over
>thinking its funny

>>722869513
sure is hard to find credible scientific sources

>>722869512
> is like questioning if the earth is round or not.

Fixed it for ya

>>722869640
> FAKE NEWS
> FAKE SCIENCE
> FAKE SOURCES
you cant win

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>>722869274
Got anything reputable? Those site are known to be purveyors of half truths and fake news

>>722869569
Also most of the "scientists" who are paid to debunk climate change aren't even climate change experts, they turn out to be physicists, meteorologists, geologists, etc.

>>722869385
Science is arguable. Free speech, and everyone that questions anything the lefty fascists output is not an idiot.

They don't have to be vilified, told they're stupid, beaten, burned, rather than address concerns with reason.

We know you want your way.

Do I make sense to you?

>>722869701
we've been through this, faggot
you're a denier and Einstein himself wouldn't change you

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>>722869640
>you said 2+2=4, but i need sources

>>722869686
it's hard to win when you cant give credible sources in any argument

>>722869731
>the lefty fascists
cry harder Trumptard

>>722869629
>this weak leftist snowflake got triggered

fucking lmao

>>722869701
The guardian and BBC are untrustworthy?
Sorry cant find this on Breitbart

>>722869778
>it's hard to win
thanks for admitting you can't

>>722869772
>equating well known biased news outlets to factual scientific information

>>722869759
So no reputable sources then.

>>722869731
>>722869385

The left has all but killed itself. You can bet that if there is a violent demonstration, the left will be behind it.

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>>722869795
>snowflake

>>722869849
rekt.. lol

>>722869772
That's mathematics friendo, not science.

>>722869850
>durr i keeps needing proof
So the same faggotry again

lel

>>722869852
unrelated comment is unrelated. shill harder putinfag

>>722869852
god do you trumpfags ever have any other speed than "derp?"

The left has embraced Islam, man made climate change, Illegal immigrants, free medicine for everyone.

Is there anywhere in this that the left is concerned with where all the money will come from to pay for these programs?

Is the left quite sure that Islam embraces homosexual marriage, liberal ideas?

The same science that says climate change is guaranteed, regardless of what men do, also shows how socialism fails reliably.

>>722869850
>expecting numpties to back up their crackpot climate change claims with reputable sources

Are you new?

>>722869906
math is a part of science you stupid trumpfag.

>>722870019
>durr hurr hurr the left

faggot is going full retard here

>>722864002
Global warming to climate change because we are stupid and don't know wat we are talking about

>>722869906
>friendo
faggot

>>722869925
>unrelated comment is unrelated. shill harder putinfag

It's related, because of the attitudes of the left on this board are related to the demonstrations and faking that anyone that disagrees with them needs to be killed or deported, and their ideas not allowed to be listened to.

>>722865045
It's not just the solar minimum/maximum dumbass, it involves the synchronization of such events as the aforementioned solar cycle, Earth's elliptical orbit, the moon's orbit, the axial tilt of the Earth, among other things - carbon dioxide levels are a by-product of solar driven climate change.

>>722870089
more like because you can't make your feeble position stick you've decided to play victim now

>>722870037
>doesn't know what science is

>>722869941
The derp is an invention of the left. Violence is your only tool, because your ideas crumble under scrutiny.

>>722869831
>the Guardian and BBC are not left wing garbage

OK

>>722870149
Ignore him, he's just some 12 year old trolling, that much is clear.

>>722870061
>faggot is going full retard here

Thank you for making my point lefty. So, in your alternative logic class you hear that ad hominem is a useful logic device?

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>>722870109
>solar driven climate change.

>>722869778
its hard to win when the person you argue against will call every source and scientific fact bullshit.
http://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-as-the-climate-changes-are-750-million-refugees-predicted-to-move-away-from-flooding-63400
http://ejfoundation.org/campaigns/climate/item/climate-justice-protecting-climate-refugees
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v296/n6/full/scientificamerican0607-43.html
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0962629807000601

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>>722870165
>your ideas crumble under scrutiny

oh that is rich! pot calling the kettle black.

>>722869909
>stop requiring proof for my bonkers assertions

lmfao :^)

>>722870254
Do they make money from government grants? Yes!

>>722870192
when every paper that isnt Breitbart is left wing propaganda, maybe its time to realize that youre mentally ill

>>722870133
No. I made my points a minute ago, and you failed to address them, because you knew you did not have facts or reasons. So, you decided Ad hominem would be a useful tool


"I disagree, therefore I'll resort to insults, since I can't beat you up. "

>>722870240
You don't get to employ logic devices here. Your entire premise is based on the premise that climate change is a hoax, and yet you have offered nothing but your butt hurt fee fees as "proof."

>>722870349
Im sure government is thrilled at the prospect of losing their trillion dollar oil and coal industries.

>>722870301
do we need to prove to you that the sky is blue or that water is wet?

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>>722870301
>being this Flat-Earthy

>>722870254
None of your sources back these claims.

>>722870296
We know they fail, because they couldn't even engage with Milo. Violence and ad hominem is the tool of the uneducated.

>>722870254
>what is grant funded bias

lmao, try again

>>722870359
You've made no points but pretend that the vast overwhelming consensus of science is a hoax. Which is retarded.

You haven't exactly earned any respect.

Not exactly deserve

>>722870149
found the trumpfag

>>722870385
>Your entire premise is based on the premise that climate change is a hoax,
You're talking about someone else. I'm pretty sure the climate is changing. Whether or not it is man made, or that it is changing as fast as the leftists are screaming cannot be known by me... or you.

I don't have butthurt. Butthurt is the tool of the left, and you know this.

>>722870493
>what is blatant kneejerk denial of science?

>>722870439
I give up. Keep believing Trump and Breitbart. Im sure the world will be fine

>>722870570
actually no, the only people who agree with you are Trump, or oil companies.

Climate change clowns be like
this is evidence of man made effects---------->

Science says the climate changes. White people problems.

>>722870570
>no butthurt
>keeps getting butthurt over being called a denier

kek

>>722870517
>but pretend that the vast overwhelming consensus of science is a hoax.

That was someone else. Some of my favorite television scientists say the climate is changing, but they don't say it's man made. They say climate change is real - but you can't get them to say it is man made, they simply won't do it.

The left doesn't offer ideas on the solution, they simply want to punish companies to move to mexico or china and pollute even more.

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>>722870592
The jury is still out in the scientific community, if it wasn't it would be fact, instead it's a debate.

>>722870666
climate change denier located. you flat-earther trump fags are the laughing stock of the world.

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>>722870726
>television scientists
>believes "the left"=science

>>722870726
Funnily enough even the Chinese knows that its man made and is doing massive changes to prevent it.

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>>722870781
>The jury is still out in the scientific community,

>>722870781
>The jury is still out in the scientific community,

that's bullshit. 97% of scientists agree that climate change is man made. there is no jury left, they have decided.

>GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE IS AFFECTED BY HUMANS
>HURR
>DURR

says who?

Pretty much, i miss memes like this

>>722870837
The science says the air pressure in my tire changes.

>>722870882
inb4 durr hurr 97% debunked durr infofags breitshart

lel

>>722870901
people with brains
people not you

>>722870919
science would also say you are making a retarded comparison

>>722870901
says actual scientist with PhDs. but i guess a sub-80 IQ trump supporter should be taken more seriously amirite?

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>>722870882
>that's bullshit. 97% of scientists agree that climate change is man made
>zero sources

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

Furthermore, the same people that are screaming about man made climate change side with other terrible ideas. They certainly don't make logical argument, they always resort to ad hominem.

I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but the left has got to get its act together with logic, reason, liberal values, free speech.

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>>722871016
>still waiting for pwoof wibs

>>722871014
>says actual scientist with PhDs

Scientists are all divided on the subject

>>722871011
Wow, way to refute it science man

>>722871068
97% to 3%

Yeah, that's a great divide isn't it.

>>722870247
Nice refutation, window licker

>>722871017
>believes obvious retarded anti-climate change disinfo
>complains that thread isn't being "logical" enough

kek

>>722870882
>it's fact because I say so

lol

>>722871068
scientist =/= a few inbred rednecks in murica

>>722871117
>97% to 3%

Gonna need a source on that bud

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>>722871136
>replying like Trump this hard

>>722871014
>says actual scientist with PhDs. but i guess a sub-80 IQ trump supporter

But, we know that the average trump supporter earns much more than liberal leftists, and is certainly more educated. I don't know if this has anything to do with IQ, but your argument fails.

>>722871180
Google is your friend. This threads about to die, so it will be gone by the time I find it for you. It's readily available and is common knowledge.

>>722871260
Google blacked you white sissy boi

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>>722871223
>using the term "liberal leftists" without irony

>>722871223
>alternative facts

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>>722871366
Still salty?

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ITT: Climate change nut jobs REEEEing because not one shred of evidence supports their man made tin foil hattery lol

>>722871422
hey jethro, your daddy needs you to tend to the still.

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>>722871416
Sooooooo salty, yes mmmmm, delicious lolol :^)