Let's be honest: Much of 4chan are/were liberals/libertarians

I got the same score as gandi on that test

Baby killers!

>>722764411
No...you'll find people from every political stripe here, including femicunts who use shit here as fodder for their Tumblr blogs. You will find a lot of people who are politically liberal but fed up with the intolerant "illiberalism" of the extreme left. Like me.

>>722764572
Fuck you, Mohandas! Suck my dick!!!

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Uncle stalin would be proud.

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The majorty of the 'alt-right' are the same 'red pilled' incels that feel victimized by society... even though they are pieces of human trash. They are no better than the mooslims and mexicants they claim to hate.

>>722764939
Found you again you normie cuck!

>>722765015

Case in point.

Ra vault.

NAS K TORJESTVU KOMUNIZMA VIDET! >>722764804
ПРИВЕТ ТОВАРИЩЬ! ТЫ РУССКИЙ? У МЕНЯ ТОЖЕ ТАК! ХАХАХАХА

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>>722764939
you have summon the great Eternal pharaoh speak your wish and i'll will grant it.

>>722765148
Сука тут еще и русскиё есть? Не ожыдал..

>>722765148
>>722765218
ХАХАХАХАХАХА! ПРИВЕТ БРАТВА! ЗДАРОВА! КАК КРУТО ЧТО МЫ ВЗБОРЕ!

>>722765157

Get these incels laid so we can go back to being old /b/.

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Gamergate has pretty much nothing to do with the "alt-right" you know.

The term alt right is created by leftists to shoehorn all political 'deviants' into one box, and then attack it as its own entity instead of having to attack all the tiny fringe groups that now make up the putative alt right.
All people who the media considers alt right don't identify as alt right anyway. Go on /pol/ and ask them if they think they're alt right; you'll be mocked until your eventual ban/thread/404.

That being said the name alt right is erronous: there is nothing alt about it- it's just a bunch of more or less straightforward rightist ideologies lumped together, nothing "alternative". It's not like there's a "default" right out there somewhere that the "alt rightists" simply don't agree with. That is simply not the case.
The "alt right" is the most popular for of right wing ideology at the moment anyway, at least among people who matter (ie young people who are going to be controlling the world 20 yrs from now) so from that perspective there is absolutely nothing "alt" about the alt right.

Back to the point: Gamergate has nothing to with the "alt right" no matter what the media would like you to believe. It's just a sweeping term that means pretty much nothing.

t. autist

Alt-right retarded cunts are trying to use /b/ as a propaganda platform

>>722765157
I wish for dubs

>>722765643
seems like he scammed you

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Alt right? More like Alt lite

>>722766059
Can i get a link to that looks interesting

>>722766165
filteries.com

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my political compass puts me close to ghandi dam

>>722765157
I wish for dubs!

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The test is stupid. It assumes you're "left-wing" if you don't like international corporatism

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Sounds like you fellows would like some free helicopter rides.
Get a fucking job.

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>>722766059
>>722766243
How do you alter the shit in the middle?

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>>722767030
yes please, ill take 1 free helicopter ride please!

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>>722764411
Red quadrant is master race. Prove me wrong.

>protip: you literally can't

>>722766683
left wing is more on the side of giving people equal rights, not being a third wave feminist.

>>722766243
thanks

>>722766480
you wish you could get dubs, watch this.

>>722765015
the guy was right, gamer gate attcked our vidya by saying it was all sexist so then those that felt attacked branded themselves as the alt-right

>>722767556
fuck i was one of trips

>>722767605
*off

>>722767242
what browser you used?

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>>722764411

As if the Democrats are Libertarian or Liberal. Libertarianism is more important to me than the other left wing ideals. Trump is more Libertarian than Hillary. Case closed. Obama was Authoritarian as hell.

>>722767740
Opera

>>722764572
Same dude

>>722768038
hmm I tried it on opera now and it worked so not sure

Alt right is just fake news bullshit for normal.

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>>722768267
Tried it on firefox and it worked. My edgelord utopia is complete!

>>722765318
Truth

>>722768991
>>722765318
samefag

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dam i was caught

>>722769122
>>722769371
samefag

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kleta maiko

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>>722768646
Huh.

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>>722764411

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>>722764411
that political compass is extremely biased, most people will end up on the green quadrant

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I call it Communism

>>722765318
>most popular
>20 years down the line from now when everyone else is gone
>weow lad

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I is be do mc faggot?
I am not an economist, so values of taxes and such are a little over my head so.

>>722764572
Gandhi was a fucking cunt

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>>722764411
The left turned into a bunch of fuckwits that shouted down anyone with a remotely right wing opinion. Someone could mention a reasonable, well constructed argument such as:

'mass, unfiltered illegal immigration is bad for the US, I think we should enforce our border protection laws, but maybe we could spend a money on processing legal immigrants'

You would just get called a RACIST, BIGOT, XENOPHOBE etc by a bunch of brainless retards.

The silent majority is sick of this shit.

>>722765318
>The term alt right is created by leftists to shoehorn
the alt-right has existed for years, you mean its been USED by the left as a term to shoehorn everyone they don't like.
they didn't make it, go watch AmericanRennisance.

>>722767392
>>722766310
>>722766683
They're probably just trying to get you to vote left by telling you your views are leftwing

>>722767419
>right authoritarian is progressivism

>>722772550
Yeah weird, what the fuck? I didn't even notice.

>>722764411
according to the political compass the labour party is authoritarian right.

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In the oven you go, faggot

>>722764665
Adult killers!

>>722772048
but why is it bad?

>>722772614
It is. "Liberals" in the US aren't even really on the left side of the spectrum. Just about all US politics are right wing.

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Left libertarian is an oxymoron and you're a retard for identifying as one.

>>722767419
>>722772550
also national socialism should be just above and to the left of authoritarianism

>>722773265
Explain how its an oxymoron?

>>722764572
Ghandi raped children

>>722773709
>People be free to make their own decisions in life
>But if it's through a consensual business relationship in a capitalistic system then THROW THEM INTO THE GULAG

>>722773709
probably they mean libertarian is about individual liberty, but you should pay taxes for social welfare and other government bullshit, which is theft of self-made money to give to other people.

>>722773265
Actually, "libertarian" was originally used for anarchists, anarcho-socialists and the such to refer to their views without fear of retaliation.

US libertarianism is a joke, and is mostly funded by dark money groups.

>>722773896
Anarcho-communism/Anarcho-socialist is an even bigger oxymoron

kys

>>722773990
Wow.... You don't know what you are talking about. Do you?

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>>722764411
faggots

>>722764411
Nope been here since day one always hated leftist commies. Always will.

>>722764411
I'm pretty sure that the one to the farthest right on the graph is me.

>tfw Austrian Economics is Life

>>722773871
Eh, that is a valid point, but in some LibSoc strains, the concept of money would be abolished, and the economy would be more of a gift economy, or just "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

So the idea of taxes would be completely obsolete as the concept of money is no longer a thing.

>>722773846
EH, Anarcho-Communists are opposed to all Hierarchy, and as such, oppose the concept of Capitalism all together, as it is inherently hierarchical,

The Only ones who would be targeted would be the ownership class. Not the worker.

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>>722764411
>He believed MSM's definition of alt-right
>He even still uses the term
>He bunches libertarians with liberals

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>>722773990
this

anarchism is about abolishing the state, socialism/communism is about having an monolithic state to reorganize society and enforce a perverted notion of "equality"

It fucking stinks cucks around here

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And I was not even trying...

>>722774765
How is having a "State" needed for Socialism?
How is having a workplace democracy in a workplace owned by the workers indicative of a state?

Also, Communism is by definition a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society.

>>722774765
Real Anarcho-communism/socialism believers actually don't believe in a state, rather they have this childish fantasy that everyone will just come together willingly and distribute their goods for the sake of society. Something straight out of a dirty hippy pot smoking drum circle.

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It fucking stinks of cucks around here

>>722774765
Communism is an economic system in which companies ("the means of production") are owned by the workers, not a single person/s. What you're talking about is state capitalism.

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>>722775094
>Communism is by definition a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society.

So Communism is a fairy tale?

>>722775107
That has been implemented in reality.

So evidently it is not a "childish fantasy"

>>722764411
I had a feeling gamers had above average intelligence

>>722775216
No, it's just just a wildly different concept than what we're used to that most people can't wrap their heads around it.

>>722775216
If a "Fairytale" can be shown to actually have existed, then yes.

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>>722764411

>>722775107
like doctors going to medical school want to put in all that effort just to live in the same house and eat the same rations as the niggers killing each other over crack XD

All my keks

>>722775242
I have only seen two historical examples of "anarcho-communism/socialism" being in reality. Both failed horribly and fell apart incredibly quickly.

>>722775431
It's almost as if people choose to blame crime purely on Race and Religion, but not on the Socio-Economic circumstances that they were raised in.

>>722764411

/b/ maybe,

But /pol/ are a bunch of far right nazis

>>722775635
what are you talking about faggot.

It was just a distasteful example of how this society would not function.

>>722775094
socialism is by definition coercive, it coerces people to give up their property and the state is the architect of that
>>722775191
how is what you describe not state capitalism? companies are owned by "the wokers", all communist states have claimed to represent the proletariat

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>>722775635
And they would be right to do so.

either side of gamergate was fucking autistic. Vidya =/= srs business

>>722764411
>"alt-right"

i stopped reading after that

>>722775619
Well, one was arose during a Civil war and the other was crushed by a neighboring superpower.

But we have smaller Anarchist examples that currently exist. EZLN in Mexico and Rojava (Not 100% Anarchist, but is definitely LibSoc)

Then there's the Iroquois which are very similar to a modern definition of Libertarian Socialism.
They worked the land communally, decisions were created on a village level.

>>722776065
truth

>>722775906
>socialism is by definition coercive, it coerces people to give up their property and the state is the architect of that

Yes, PRIVATE Property (Not Personal) would be seized and hand over to the community. But that could occur outside of the apparatus of the state through Autonomous Worker Militias

>>722765318
The term alt-right was created by Richard Spencer, silly billy. That's just a Google search away!

>>722776458
I'm a lazy inconsiderate jerk who lays in bed all day and I still have a job. Explain that.

>>722776638
>Lays in bed all day
>Has job

What is this mythical job that pays you for being a lazy fuck?????

>>722776742
It's called night shift fgt

>>722775906
These "communist states" owned the companies, not the workers. So what is it called when one entity owns a business? Capitalism... and the state owning the businesses would be...

>>722776860
But there are obviously other duties you're supposed to fulfill? I am an EMT and I get 12 hour night shifts were I do fuck all, but that doesn't mean I don't have to do anything when we get a call.

>>722776449
what's the difference between a state and an "autonomous worker militia"? see you're just proposing another autocratic government, supported by an ignorant majority to oppress a minority

>>722776974

Communism is a great idea until big government gets involved. On a local level it works fine.

>>722777009
Well yeah I'm working at night

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>>722764411
This is my world. How long until it falls apart?

>>722777158
Big government is based.

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>>722777306

>>722777016
People seem to forget that government in it's purest form is just institutionalized violence. Every bit of influence a government has is backed by it's ability to violently intervene.

So when people talk about Anarcho-anything it's funny to watch them go from "Oh I hate the government" to "Our philosophical death squads that enforce our beliefs are totally not a form of authoritarianism! No way no how!"

Anarchism is literally a myth. It doesn't exist.

>>722777293
The moment everyone finds out the president reads Manga.

>>722777016
A "State" by the Anarchist definition hold a monopoly on the use of Violence.

A Workers Militia would not hold a monopoly on the use of violence, as the populace themselves would be possessing firearms, and would have the right to use them on the Militia if they were to overstep their bounds. They would know that if they Fucked up, their heads would be on the Guillotine

>>722776974
lol and then every individual will be a shareholder in every company? you'll have board meetings with 7 billion people.. or will you "elect" managers? oh but wait ... how is this different from a state then...

and what if i have an idea and want to start a company will i have to give a piece of the company to every person in the fucking world?

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>>722764411
Most of them are the ones that feel like their life-style is under attack by an oppressive government/system.
You know... the same thing the minorities complain about.
They realize they are quickly falling into the same class, and desperately are trying to distance themselves, and bring back jobs their kind once had.

If only they could see past party dogma, they might actually accomplish something useful instead of electing idiots.

If I get hexes, Bernie Sanders will be our next president. Checkem.

>>722777708
roll

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>>722777658

eaf

>>722777658
>they're doing the same thing we're doing!
>they should stop electing idiots.

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>>722777658
>tfw you realize "MAGA" is "WE WUZ KANGS" for the middle-class

>>722777747
Pls post more strawmen images they make me pity you

>>722777777

TIL that it's commie trash that browses /b/
Who would have guessed?

>>722777516
so you propose a constant state of civil war with militias fighting against each other

lol if everyone has guns then you wont be able to create a communist society because people would defend against the militia/state and stop them from taking their property basically you are proposing ancap ;) welcome to the team

>>722776974
Well, the idea is that it would be a transitional system. First the Revolution led by a Vanguard would establish a Dictatorship of the proletariat . Then the means of production would be collectivized. Either being owned by the State for the Workers (State Socialism / Capitalism) or by the Workers themselves. This is still socialism, at a point the apperatus of the state would be dismantled to properly establish a communist system.

>>722777928
Exactly... hillary v trump?
Come on America.
Atleast the dems are still following bernies movement and draining their swamp.
What are the republicans up to? Riding Trumps popularity... Filling the swamp. Trying to get as much agenda done possible. They know those 2 years are burning fast.

>>722778148
Er, I am not proposing AnCap as I oppose the notion of Wage Slavery and Hierarchical systems all together.


I tend to believe Proudhon's quote of "As man seeks justice in equality, so society seeks order in anarchy."

Which I interpret as Order in a society can only be achieved from Anarchy. That the chaos of the initial Revolution will give way to a new order. One of equality, democracy and justice.

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>>722764411
/b/ atleast is still left-libertarian

>>722770841

Then your grasp of communism is pretty fucking poor.

>Ethnic sovereignity
>Nonconstitutional
>state religion
>death penalty for race
>mixed public and private ownership
>not max regulation

None of these are communist.

>>722778714
if you don't want wages then how will people trade in a society?

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someone recomend me something more?

>>722779141
One possible solution to that would be use of a labor voucher. Only good for one use, so it does not enter circulation. Another is a Communal Store house, take as you need. Or a Gift economy is an option, You do for me when I need it, and I'll help you out down the line.

It's down to individual theorist at this point

>>722779141
if you are an mechanic and i would like you to fix my car and i am a banana farmer and you need bananas why cant i pay you 20 bananas for your work?

>>722779359
Actually, I forgot about simple bartering...

>>722779359
and what if the mechanic doesn't want bananas?

>>722779345
and who would make/distribute this vouchers?

Communal store? then i can just come and take everything? and give nothing in return?

man all this ideas just seem like alternative currencies...

>and what if the mechanic doesn't want bananas?
indeed that's why its better to use money because i can just pay the mechanic with it and the he'll find someone that sells what he wants

>>722773782
Welcome to /b/ friendo :^)

>>722779800
>and who would make/distribute this vouchers?
Workplace, or the Commune

>Communal store? then i can just come and take everything? and give nothing in return
You can enter and take what you need. The local factories and Farms produce is delivered for distribution.

Produce what you can, and you will be given what you need.

>man all this ideas just seem like alternative currencies...
Some basically are, and some aren't

>>722780077
>Workplace, or the Commune
so basically the state

>Produce what you can, and you will be given what you need.
sorry man but this is ridiculous, so basically i can just live in this society and not work at all, who's to say i'm not doing my best...

the reason people work is so they can consume goods, it's just as simple as that, and if you have a free market then the wage of that person will correspond to their productivity, which creates an incentive for people to be productive

>Some basically are, and some aren't
so what's wrong with using money... in a free society people can trade however they want

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Here's how I fared. Thoughts?

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>>722781419
And my compass.

>>722767419
>Nazis (literally National Socialists) who killed communists and framed them for the Reichstag fire and in the same political quadrant as them

Really?

>>722780984
>so basically the state
Commune. As like I stated before, they don't posses a monopoly on violence. And it is a direct democracy. So not the sate.

>sorry man but this is ridiculous, so basically i can just live in this society and not work at all, who's to say i'm not doing my best...
Never said that was my preferred solution.

>so what's wrong with using money... in a free society people can trade however they want
Nothings wrong if it is used solely to trade, but it really isn't as so many tend to hoard it, and that would draw it out of circulation, and to counteract that, more is printed which then causes inflation, driving up prices. That is my only real complaint (Obviously very simplistic, but should get the point across?)

Note: Saving for hard times is fine, just the excessive hoarding is an issue

>>722776419
/thread

>>722781625
if this "Commune" doesn't have the power to coerce other people then it's basically a private institution, even if it is a direct democracy that just means that the inhabitants of that town are the owners, it cannot coerce anyone, so the only people who would interact with this institution would do so voluntarily aka in a free market

>Nothings wrong if it is used solely to trade, but it really isn't as so many tend to hoard it, and that would draw it out of circulation, and to counteract that, more is printed which then causes inflation, driving up prices.

don't take this the wrong way, don't want to offend, but i don't think you have studied economics, saving/"hoarding" money doesn't take it out of circulation, quite the opposite, as the money goes through the financial system it gets loaned to someone who wants to buy a house or start a company, and that grows the economy, the reason why the state prints money is because it's easier than taxing people, and yes, that causes inflation bringing up prices

>>722781625
>>722783059
can i suggest that you visit /liberty/ in 8 chan it's a pretty cool (but a little slow) board with a lot of anarchists (mostly ancaps but every color is welcome i think)

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beat that niggers

>>722783406
Eh, most ancaps tend to not too kindly to Red Anarchists.

>>722784195
physically removing communists doesnt break the nap

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I am the ultimate conservative.

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gg thread?