Python master race Prove me wrong

Using whitespace in code compilation is gay

>>722657359
CSS master race reporting in

Python is for people who don't know how computers work. Join the C master race!

>>722657359

The world is transitioning to JavaScript. Python is glorified Perl and will soon be history.

GG with your fragmentation.

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>>722657359

>>722657582
webfag
Python is nice to code, but not used much.

How about instead, you prove yourself right.

PROGRAMMING IS A SPECTRUM, DAMMIT.

>>722657749
Perl is vastly different from Python, and you only succeed in showing your ignorance in both languages.

>>722657816
Python is not used much? lol

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>>722657359
Python are for fags. Get on the Haskell train.

COBOL is king.

Not really, but I've made a nice living supporting those old ass systems

>>722657888
Check'd and rek't

>>722657888
CHECKED

Goldman Sachs is starting to use Python for trading

C languages are kill.
Basment fags can stick python up their single threaded ass

>>722657708
/thread

>>722657571
hell python does that? that's disgusting

C#

Dat employability

bash
google

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>>722657823
my doctor said i'm on a spectrum too

>>722658462
C# > Java
Faster and more secure.
Java is still trying to keep up. KEK.

Once you become intermediate in C# see c++

>>722657823
actually, programming is pretty much one thing.

>>722657359
didn't like your picture prove you wrong already?

>>722658394
They wanted to 1) enforce consistent indentation and 2) exclude brackets and semicolons. It's a weird strategy but it works. I am not a language elitist, (thank god), but python is definitely an efficient language to get shit done. I prefer Perl only for its one-liners and regex. Otherwise, most languages do have some merit. People are just losers that like to start "language wars" as if theirs is more functional than another. In the end most of their comparisons only matter on massive scales and even then massive-scale companies still implement shittier languages for their needs. Oh, well.

>>722658687
> C# is faster than Java
Try to join the rest of us in 2017 there, sport

>>722658687
I am going that route. Started with Python, JavaScript then c# getting some job experience with that. Now I am learning c then wanna end in c++

What do you guys think about Node.js?

the haskell nerd on clisp?

JavaScript is significantly faster, lighter-weight, more portable, and just as functional, if not more-so. V8 FTW.

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>>722657918
Functional programming is a meme.

>>722658830
Learn what you think is useful for the market. For example: If you want to get into web, learn python, php, perl, javascript, html+css, nginx, apache, unix/linux/windows/mac (this is a given).

If you're going for something else, I'm sure others can give better ideas, but that's a basic web thing. I recommend getting _very_ skilled in one language, though. Learn the language, learn its best practices, learn how to implement efficient algorithms in said language, and then learn how that language is made. Also, it's worth staying up-to-date on what is new in languages. For instance, learning Python 2.7 is useful, but 3.0 will slowly become the standard in the future and as such should probably be prioritized.

>>722657918
my brother is genius (like actual genius) doing his phd in computer science, although hes actually mathematician and he says haskell is the shit, so i believe you

>>722658998
u should learn basic lisp. it is good for learning recursive methods.

>>722658804
It IS faster when used correctly you faggot.
Just get the code JIT'd and use direct access instead of expensinve things like lea instructions.

>>722657359
C++ masterrace

>>722659139
tfw your existence in the programming world is probably not appreciated via that atitude

>>722659110
Add to that, learning c syntax makes php very easy to learn

>>722659136
how would that benefit someone working on generic private user applications or does administrative work?

>>722657919
Royal pain in the ass .. but there's money to be made alright

>>722659313
Yes, I should have mentioned C. I kind of did (in passing) by mentioning learning how the higher-level languages are implemented, but your explicit mention is definitely needed. C is essential, and honestly will help you learn any other language even if it's a bit more of a long stretch.

>>722659110
I am doing backend and frontend so I have to know html/css/javascript and few frameworks as well as c#/xml. I am getting advanced in JavaScript, although it is easy to learn it becomes a pain on large projects and easy to produce bugs. I am getting better and patterns but still need some time to skill up. With C# it is easier, I really appreciate strongly typed language. You appreciate best practice when you work on a larger project and you have to change requirements in the middle of it.

>>722659168
Minored in comp sci in uni and C++ was the most interesting in my opinion.

>>722659752
why?

>>722659506
c is good to learn from the perspective of understanding how things work under the hood. Memory management, checking memory leaks etc. can add to your skill toolbox so you develop applications that are more efficient and don't crash after a long runtime.

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>>722657359
I really like Python, but it fucking bothers me that it isn't type safe.

>let's trust every programmer in the world to be competent enough not to ever use an invalid value, what could possibly go wrong?

>>722657359
SQL master race reportiing in ;-;

>>722659330
it depends. I did a course on lisp and got a grasp of recursive functions. I don't use them a lot in other languages but sometimes in certain scenarios they can reduce the number of lines you have to write.

>>722659818
This is very true. I'm a massive javafag but once I started delving deeper into optimization and got started on gpu programming I spent quite a bit of time reading about C++ code and concepts just learning more about the whole memory management angle

>>722660211
whydafuq is there the church of lisp then? is that basically trolling?

>>722659790
Might have been the professor, might have been the ease at which I picked it up, but I think especially it was because of how nice it was compared to regular C imo.

>>722660394
lol didn't know that.

>>722659565
C#/xaml*

>>722660611
:`(

Python is like the swiss army knife of languages. Need to sort a list by size, one line. Need to break a file into each individual character, one line. The white space is not great but it does make things cleaner.

c and c++ are better if you want to do everything by hand.

>>722657359
CoffeeScript masterrace

Eh I like the white space

Tabbing looks sexy anyway

>>722657359
can shitty python do this?

#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
struct { long a, b } foo = { 0, 1 };

printf("%ld\n%ld\n", *(long *) &foo, *(long *) &foo + 4);
return 0;
}

>writing script for maya in python
>new line
>turns a random tab into 4 spaces
>maya doesn't have a built in white space viewer
>code will not compile "expected intent"
fuck maya

FORTRAN master race

>>722662351
When Fortran died so did my career and dreams

I'm old

>>722657359
Dont tell me how to indent my code!

My man!

What's the best first language to study?

>>722662985
drracket

>>722662985
Brainfuck. It's really easy

>>722662985
bash

>>722657359
Tensorflow, gg, python django wins it all at backend

>>722662985
Python, seriously. Don't listen to the scrubs saying it sucks. Python is hot and in demand right now.

>>722662985
>>722663050
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racket_(programming_language)#DrRacket_IDE
seriuosly though if you know nothing about programming this is easiert to get you going about the principles without having to worry about writing stuff just for the syntax that you wont understand until much later anyway..

Do it for like a month then switch to a real language, maybe java or python

python ftw

>>722657359
wrong

True False
elif

vs non-faggot languages

true false
else

>>722657359
lol try computing a k-mean clustering for a dataset of say, 500GB. Enjoy waiting 50 years for your results in your ridiculous interpreted language.

>>722657359
>Python
you mean that shitty prototyping language? good luck using that in production

>>722662351
Go back to you're physics lab that hasn't gotten funding since 1980

>>722657359
Bow down before C++17, youngling.

Have fear.

Now retreat before you are burnt by the raging fire of compiled performance...

>>722659082
For your own sanity, don't try lisp. Imagine Haskell, then add about a billion parentheses. It's the absolute bane of my existence, and my AI professor has a giant boner for it.

>>722657571
Sounds bad coming from C-like, but in practice it's not a problem.

C is literally the master language. Everything you can do in any language, you can do in C. Fuck, kids these days.

>>722657708
Better: use them together.

>>722657749
>The world is transitioning to JavaScript.
And what a glorious mess it is.

>>722658687
Why would you jump through hoops when you can learn C++ and be done with it?

>>722663568
Scheme/racket is real language, even if that implementation is only borderline serious.

>>722665834
LISP stands for "Lots of Irritating Superfluous Parentheses" ;-)

>>722664320
cffi, motherfucker

faggot ass web dav tier queers and your fucking interpreted languages. get the fuck out of here you faggots. Before long anything you faggots do will all be done by ai. want a real job? learn C babbies

>>722666752
Most of these also have native compilers.

>>722666908
yea but do you think fucking pajeet compiles his fucking fart web applications?

>>722660211
Some structures are inherently recursive too. You may deal with them without recursion some times but it usually is not worth the effort.

>>722660394
>is that basically trolling?
Do you ask that on/b/? Of course it is.

Python 3 is terrible.

t. used to like python

>>722661688
Does it need to?

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>>722666624
Ya you could use an interface that lets you use a better programming language, or you could stop being a bitch and use the better language in the first place. Pic fucking related.

>>722664546
Or his Arianne rocket programming department.

>>722657359
Languages are tools.
You use em where you need em.

But some idiots (specially java idiots) insist on using a specific bike wrench for EVERYTHING.

>>722657359
Moar like this
http://sextoyget.com/bathmate-hydromax-x40-aqua-blue-p37620.html

everything has sintax
everything has variables
everything has loops

it's how you use it anon

Haskell is awesome, absolute beauty

>>722667719
Asm don't exactly have variables.
It's registers and memory addresses.

>>722657359
Brainfuck all the way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

>>722667777
quads of truf

I've heard you have really nice time with threading and GIL c;

>>722667968
Registers vary.

>>722668369
Indeed.

Any love for MATLAB?

>>722657359
Python has no way of taking a Hashmap and making a tree map automatically based on the library.

Say you're in an interview and decided to use Python to put things in a hashmap. You'll be very sad to know you can't automagically sort them; you'd need to make a manual sorting routine.

Meanwhile, in Java : Map<K, V> treemap = TreeMap<K, V> (previousHashmap);

Amazing.

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I'll just leave this here

>>722665964
Everything you can do in any language, you can do in Assembly. Fuck, kids these days.

>>722668606
Use it in engineering school but I mostly use it for wolfram shit only

>>722659168

>>722667208
Zed is that you?

Thinlets whyte bois, Lamao.

>>722668864
Treemaps aren't magical one size fits all sorting collections. After a while you have to start putting together your own stuff just like in any other language. Or find a third party library just like in any other language

>>722668990
See this guy knows whats up, but you know whats better then assmbly, pure signals & bits prove me wrong, you cant

>>722670422
writing a small function to do something useful in pure assembly takes days. and if you aren't careful you'll end up with code slower than what the C++ compiler could get you. it's not as great as it seems.

C# for work
PHP for freelance, it sucks but clients fucking love wordpress
C++ for my IoT projects
Javascript frameworks, started with durandal, then angular then react and i suppose next year will be using a new one
want to learn python but i dont know what to do with it, maybe Kodi addons?

going to school for network engineering and security analysts this September. what language should i start to learn first? what languages should i learn after that?

>>722670885

>his assembly is slower than c++

git

gud

>>722665979
Have you tried writing C extensions for python? It's fucking terrible. It's a crashy mess all over the place, even when you're not dealing with stupid shit involving the interpreter locks.

C# :)

Vba fgts