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life is hard for the animals you pay people to hurt (if you're

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life is hard for the animals you pay people to hurt (if you're not a vegan, that is)
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I love animals, but I love eating them even more.
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Using guilt tripping tricks to sway people from doing something is not the right approach, OP.

Just tell them the positives and the negatives. Let people decide for themselves. Changing habits takes a lot of time too, btw. Remember there are people's livelihoods at stake here too.

I was once a vegan freak like you and had the exact same approach - want to know how many people I convinced? Absolutely none.
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>>722353751
while there are many reasons becoming a vegan helps yourself, most people do it to help animals.

"guilt tripping" in this context only means appealing to any sense of empathy they might have- you act like the only way anyone would consider it is if they're convinced it's good for themselves, which is incredibly selfish.
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>>722353327

I don't consider cows and chicken to be animals. I look at them as a food source.
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>>722353327
It's really fucking simple, we need meat. We knew this literally thousands of years ago, I just finished reading "The Republic" and Plato said something like "We need bread for sustenance, and meat for athletics". I love animals, but I'm also a hunter. Just the laws of nature mate.
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>>722354115
People are irrational by nature and most of them are uneducated. Just drop facts. Keep dropping them. But don't force people into a position you want them to be in. It just doesn't work. People are not going to make sacrifices just because you said something. If they engage with you, then tell them what you think but don't rant.

I still stand by my opinion that emotional appeals don't work. Educate people, don't berate or make them feel bad. Let them decide for themselves. Give them time.
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>>722354194
what are you, dumb? lmao

you can look at them as both animals and food source
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>>722354475
Emotional appeals are often the only thing that can get through to people. You assume that everyone is as rationally minded as you.
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>>722354613
I think you missed my first sentence.
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Genesis 9:3
"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."
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I don't care about fish and have been a pescaterian for a few years now, recently I stopped caring about chickens there kind of stupid and emotionless looking, I could not eat bacon or meat though cows are more aware of whats going on then most people realize and pigs are just so cute and loveable!
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