prove this isn't modern art. >protip: you can't.

>>722328768
modern art = I could do that! + yeah, but you didn't

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>>722328950
sorry i don't speak watermelon.

>>722328768

>lacks composition
>unclear approach / goal
>mere digital scribble
>random, uncommon picture ratio (too much stretched langscape)
>poorly executed
>no reference to art history, no avantgarde tendencies

= can be dismissed as a piece of shit
same goes for ignorant OP

>>722328950

and in fact "i could do that!" in most cases is talking shit and not being capable at all.
ignorance isn't a wildcard for dismissing things you don't understand, OP

>>722328768
OP how did you come across the famous renaux du champ a field of red that is one of most sought after paintings in all of existence. OP what's your addy I'm a famous art dealer and scholar and would love to fly over and examine such an exquisite piece. Just look a the j'ai ne ce qois it's subtle lines speak of empires and the tender fruit of womanhood. You will be handsomely rewarded op for uncovering such a tasteful piece of art history. Really astonishing Picasso and his doodles would be totes jelly belly

It's not hanging in a gallery.

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>>722330269
>>722330451

Finally some fellow intellectuals I can't imagine how people don't see the elegance beauty and skill needed to create

>red circle outside of white box

You guys are true thinkers and scholars

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>>722328768
put it on a 4m x 4m canvas, get a pianist, rent a big industry hall and invite some hipsters and faggots the average new york self proclaimed avantgarde and this is modern art.

there are no criteria for distinguishing something as art. so this thread is pointless.

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>>722331323
>>722331323

How dare you mock modern art and these two bright connoisseurs of fine art
>>722330269

>>722328768
Hello. My name is Jackson Pollock and I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to pass off symmography as modern art. What I do is much more random! Thank you.

>>722331404
Im sure the steaming t urds your dad drops in your mouth are avant garde art

>>722328768
When was it made?

>>722328768
no one bought it

>>722331278

here's a little bit to get your mind out of the gutter

>what was the function of a painting in the past?
depicting beauty, showing the rank of a person in a portrait, genre paintings of christian motifs etc. etc.

>but what is a painting anyway?
a painting is a visual representation of ideas that we know from experience: eg. a landscape

>can you push the boundaries of that? isn't a painting by definition just a medium for ideas?
yes. artists have since introduced other influenes:

impressionists like Georges seurat have included ideas and developements from photography and optical inventions (lenses)

finally, you can take influences from ANY area -> film, photography, print, the mere character of paint and surfaces etc. etc. etc.

>Is it still art, even if I stand in front of it and don't get the idea at all?
Yes, it is still art, even if you dipshit have no idea of art history and the background of the medium.
Art isn't your sunday entertainment date or your school trip from back then. You wouldn't say "Cars are shit, cause I don't know how a car engine works!" You don't dismiss this on the ground that you have no idea what it's doing.

>>722328768
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>>722331278
>>722331467


.... PS I doubt that you even get any of this, >>722332014 .... dipshit.

>>722328768
But it is art!

dead silence.

>>722328768
20 years ago as a little kid 7 years old, I was holding red magnifying glasses to these red squiggles and lines to reveal a secret message or answer to a puzzle on cereal boxes and shit

Actually it is Post Modern art technically speaking since it imitates rather than belongs in the history of Modern art. More pastiche than anything, giving it one of the characteristics of Post Modernism.

It is art, anything can be art...that doesn't mean its good art!

>>722331467

The Black Painting by Peit Mondrian is his personal idea of the "last painting". Black paint is hardly used in realistic painting at all, because there is no true pitch black in nature either. Dark tones are usually achieved with mixes of blue and/or brown. ivory black is a "non-color". to make a painting back in HIS days that was JUST pitch black was a bold and insane idea and caused outrage.

you must always consider the context of the time at which the work was created. Russia was and still is especially conservative when it comes to art. To the art experts of back then, Mondrian was a madman for doing this.

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>>722332304

very applicable.

>>722331278

>red circle outside of a box

the message here is very blatant and in plain sight: the frame of a picture is (or better, was) a very important element in a picture. it's used to emphasize a certain color or highten the value of a painting.
contemporary paintings typically have frames that are thin and entirely function and not decorative / not colored. this is because the idea of framing a picture became a silly nostalgic thing and old fashioned.

but the frame also acts as the boundary between the content of the picture and the wall. it's like the frame of a window.

This rather weak piece of art plays with exactly this notion: The content of the picture extends beyond the frame, it leaks out onto the wall, leaving the art medium. It's a weak point to make, but a valid one.

>>722331404

you are wrong.

>>722333005
except this painting was painted by Ad Reinhardt, an american painter active in the 50's and 60's.

>>722334301

well, it's too small to tell and very similar

>>722334301

mondrain made several versions of the blakc painting, varying sizes

>>722334506
MONDRIAN that is

/r/ picture of some guy who carved a dragon bitching about his thing being placed next to a sculpture of a guy sucking himself off

>>722328768
'Cause modern art is dumbshit prograde

>>722334638

I've seen this one and I actually agree. Very poor choice from the curators. And the auto-erotica is a piece of shit.

>>722334744
Yeah, I'd probably swear off art too if that happened to me.

>>722334873

There's a reason why you don't just put pieces randomly next to each other. They correlate, they are compared and influence each other.

Putting a detailed work carved from wood with a fantasy theme next to a carelessly crafted provocation is a fucking shit idea. probably some dumbass teachers calling the shots and not caring at all, limited space, general carelessness and incompetence, you name it.

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>>722334441
Havent ever heared of it and am not able to find anything about it right now, if you have a source please share it with me.(also it's: Mondriaan :^) )

I most especially get a blast at hearing master artists talking about having to add flaws to their hyper realist works so people could relate to them.
>and here I left the back of his ear slightly deformed so people would accept it as art, rather than mere replication.

>>722328768
it is

Art is the recreation of reality based on an artists metaphysical value judgments the purpose of art is not didactic but rather to show

>>722335581
Why must it recreate reality? Why not to convey a dream or a fantasy?

>teenagers and listless 20somethings on 4chan in charge of art or being competent enough to recognize quality art

i've seen the "best albums" threads on here enough to know you're all embarrassing

>>722335359

my fucking mistake, man. I got him mixed up with Kazimir Malevich

>"Kazimir Malevich, Black Square"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome_painting

the story is the same.
the painting has seen degraded a lot (visible cracks) but it was a plain, black surface.

>>722335490

so what part of that don't you understand exactly?
you clearly never made anything worthwhile like that yourself.

>>722335729

dreams are based on things you have seen, they are just mashed up and taken apart.
fragmented dream elements work the same way as metaphors do in a poem.

>>722335789

are we talking music taste now? superior taste faggot detected

>>722331038
Stfu illuminati will get ya

>>722328768
yeah it's modern art, but it's shit. objectively. you're a fucking philistine

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>>722331038
Samefag?

>>722332568
What's dead silent?

>>722335819
Thanks m8, liked the story and was hoping it was true.

>>722332014

im learning so much

>>722336430

no one responding for three minutes. OP was probably shutting up, realizing his stupidity hard.

>>722336451
glad you got interested

>>722336600
sarcasm level is >9000
fuck you very much happy birthday

>>722335556
Lol kys just cuz you've done drugs don't mean others have

>>722336604
Yeah I'm sure
I'm also sure your both right cuz fuck you

>>722336695

it actually can be called art.
David Hockney famously started painting digital on his iPad. High quality prints in a tiled sort of fashion are presented at his shows.

Digital art is a valid medium, has been for long. OP has made a shit piece of poor quality, but it is still a picture in principle. And to stress this again: OP, you suck balls. Your piece is shit and your teenage mindset is unbearable. don't talk shit about stuff you know nothing about.

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>>722336883

that's like, your opinion, man!

>>722337199
Actually that's the truth
The glass is 50% full

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OP crawled in hole and shat himself

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>>722336600

DUB threads matter!

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>>722337536
You really need op to say it. That's what getting me

>>722337649
Not to me they don't. I'm picky like that
2 many white people on the web these days

>>722337670

>inb4: "you art fags can go fuck yourself! modern art is a joke, fuck you! anyone can do that!"

>>722337778

silly little thing called DUBS GET

>>722337794
Consider the following:
You don't know what you don't know.
Ignorance is bliss. The ignorant are always blissed

>>722337889
Haha I see, rollin

>>722333005
>there is no true pitch black in nature either

black holes, bitch

>>722328768
This looks like my notepad at the end of a work day

>>722337996
Take it for the opposite or the exact meaning.
use that b4 everything

>>722337903

Ignorance never worked for me.
everything i got interested in and learned more about was always enriching.
except modern car design. I fucking hate car designs.

>>722338150
Same. It's just weird cause when I listen and make both people happy were both happy over just 1 of us being happy

>>722337996

black holes suck light in. we are talking optics here. Things YOU see on PLANET EARTH. Shadows aren't "black", they are hazy and animated by your eye, because your eye doesn't accept total darkness.

There is a "super black" which is created from nano tubes - hardly any light is bounced off, it is the blackest black we know atm.

black in art history however, the pure ivory black, was hardly to never used.

>>722338226

you mean conversations? telling stories?

wow, OP here, i actually left at 2 replies, didn't think it will get to 65!

>>722338612

well, to sum it up for you
>tl;dr:
>OP is a dumb fucking faggot

>>722332014
So pretentious

>>722328768
*post-modern I think you mean

>>722328768
That's because it's art. I don't like it but maybe someone does. The value of art is defined by who wants it and how much they want it.

>>722338769

>so pretentious

Oh, boo fucking hoo!
The snowflake doesn't get it.
>"You're pretentious! Meeeh!"

>>722328768
You didn't say what it" means" it could've been modern art, but didn't say it's "deep meaning"

>>722339067

truly good art doesn't need any explanation.
OP is shithead with zero skill or understanding.

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>>722338740
>dumb
This is at a modern art gallery and you cant argue

>>722338905
Agreed OP is 100% correct
"Modern" tag is unnecessary, it's art

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>>722335185
Somebody please post that picture. That sounds hilarious

>>722339215

The fact that you don't understand it OR that you don't like it doesn't take it's status as art. Who do you think you are, not knowing shit about art history, but thinking you can turn up and judge?

I don't like that piece either, but I can tell you that's it's probably oil on canvas, color applied with a spatula, probably turpentine for the runny paint parts.

It's abstract with a tendency towards the figurative, since the shapes seem a bit "on top of each other" with a certain weight to them.

Looking at paintings on a computer screen is completely wrong to begin with. Painting is still valid BECAUSE it can't be reproduced. The depth of paint applied to a surface is endless. Paintings need to be looked at in real life, that's why there are more and more museums and galleries popping up.

You can't have the same experience watching lord of the rings on a cellphone as it would be in the cinema under the perfect and intended conditions.

>>722328768
it's only modern art (more like post-modern tbqh famalam) if you can get some rich kike to buy it

>>722339466

can't find it sorry
I tried
"4chan art dragon sculpture auto-fellatio"
which pretty much sums it up. the guy who made the dragon said he'd quit, because he hated that his piece was shown next to on that was just obscene and crappy.

>>722333005
This somehow makes it art? Lol

If you have to tell people that it's art and/or why it's art, then it's not art you fucking dipshit special snowflake cunt.

>>722338769

tell me now, what's "pretentious" about it?
How about you explain art history to me and how it developed to become "modern art"?

>>722338417
The blackest black we know is black holes considering light cannot escape them, making it absolute black.

>>722332939
>that doesn't mean its good art!

who are you? the ruling voice of all that is good?

>>722340227

Again, the fact that you don't know shit about art doesn't change it's validity. You are in no position to judge. Obviously, you don't know the first thing about paintings or art history.

Imagine a guy comes along and tells you Hitler made the Autobahn and was a cool guy. Then someone tells him "What the fuck? Don't you know anything about WW2?"
And the guy answers: "That's not the point, the fact that he made the Autobahn is still great! I don't care about the rest, fuck you."

That's a retarded example, but it's very valid here. Here don't know shit about art theory, yet you have the audacity to dismiss things you have no clue about as "bad" and say "it's not art, because I don't see the meaning". Your ignorance is no base for a judgement.

>>722340361

---> >>722338417
>black holes suck light in. we are talking optics here. Things YOU see on PLANET EARTH. Shadows aren't "black", they are hazy and animated by your eye, because your eye doesn't accept total darkness.
>There is a "super black" which is created from nano tubes - hardly any light is bounced off, it is the blackest black we know atm.
>black in art history however, the pure ivory black, was hardly to never used.

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>>722339784
>Who do you think you are, not knowing shit about art history, but thinking you can turn up and judge?
fuck you

>>722340227
>>722340821


I'm very proud not to be a snowflake, you little asswipe. Snowflakes are the scum.

You can easily tell that people have no fucking clue of art, if they come along telling you
"anything that doesn't look realistic is worthless to me! Art is supposed to be beautiful and uplifting!"

Which is probably something you will agree on, telling by your funny dog painting.

You need art to work like a flat joke: It's easily readable and the point is clear.
Anything else is beyond you.

Art that doesn't have a linear narrative is shit to you, I guess.
With this much ignorance, you disqualify yourself right away.
Much worse, you make a fool of yourself, if you happen to talk to people who actually know the subject.

My friendly recommendation to you: Shut up about art.

>>722340821
>fuck you

what a witty response! I guess it hurts to realize you're talking shit, huh.

OP is applying lotion to heal the burn

>>722340682
>hurr durr i took an art history class in highschool so i know everytig about art and i can explain why everything is art xDdddd

Once again. If you have to tell people it's art, it's not art. End of story. If you disagree with me you're retarded and should chug a liter of bleach. Not responding after this.

>>722338417
>black holes suck in light

your physics knowledge is weak as fuck

Good luck trying to define "art".

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>>722343354
trying hard to hide your ignorant little mindset.
basically admitting, you lost hard. thanks, stupid!


>>722343425
topkek, you of all should know.
the gravity of a black hole doesn't allow light to escape. the border is called "event horizon". light is actually sucked into it, you dumb fuck.

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>>722343354
>Not responding after this.
boo hoo! You are so mean! Not responding after this, because I have no arguments!

you got fucked, buddy

>>722343633

Haha look at this faggot. Holy shit

when you have to tell yourself that your opponent lost or tell your opponent they lost, you're really the one that lost and you're just projecting your own insecurity. kill yourself psuedo-intellectual.

>>722343723
>I can't disprove him, so I'll attack his vocabulary, surely that'll make me look like I won!

>>722343354

The dumb will choose to stay ignorant, because anything else would scratch their ego.
prove me wrong
protip: you can't

>>722328768
Prove that it is!

>>722343882
>>722343820

read all the above, darling.
OP knows zero about the matter. Resorts to "I stick to my first stupid argument, and fuck you!"

not even trying to refute it, saying goodbye.
how is this for a prime example of a loser?

>>722344113
>I can't disprove him and I know I'm wrong, so I'll call him darling, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

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>>722328768
that's not art

>>722344219

are you OP? did you read the thread?

What is your definition of art? Why is OP's scribble art / not art?

If you read all the above, you wouldn't talk shit.

Lol art is subjective if I think it's not art then it's not art but to u it might be.i could go around taking pics of piles of dog shit and call that modern art

>>722344329
>I can't disprove him and I know I'm wrong, so I'll tell him he'd be wrong if he read 30 pages of text, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

>>722344219

Tell me now, how am I wrong?

>>722332014
>>722333807
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>>722344469

You've pulled that joke off three times now, it's getting old.
How about you bring up your defintion?

>>722344488
>I can't disprove him and I know I'm wrong, so I'll quote my 30 pages of psuedo-intellectuality, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

>>722344566
>I can't disprove his argument and I know he's right, so I'll tell him his argument is getting old without disproving it whatsoever, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

>>722328768
because you did it and it's posted on 4chan

>>722344603

So not engaging in the argument proves your point? LOL

I'm not having the same opinion as OP, so I'm automatically wrong?

I'm "writing too much", makes me be wrong on the subject as well.

Sure, great logic!

>>722344690

obvious troll is obvious.

>>722344813
>I can't disprove him and I know I'm wrong, so I'll call him a troll in a failing attempt to invalidate his argument, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

>>722344755
>I can't disprove him and I know I'm wrong, so I'll make sarcastic comments, surely that'll make it look like I've won!

>>722344973
>>722345036

You're literally milking the same, lame joke and hide behind it.

ROFL

>>722344813
>>722344755
obvious samefag is obvious

>>722345036

What's sarcastic about any of these questions?

>>722345223
>I can't disprove him and I know I lost, so I'll claim that he's joking in a failing attempt to invalidate his argument and top it off with a "ROFL", surely that'll make it look like I've won!

still waiting for any legitimate critique on my posts, coward.

you're throwing empty shells, like a little child that was told off.

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>>722346046
yay! found it

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>>722328768
here is modern art
give me money please

>>722346204

mommy will buy it

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>>722346204

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i did a art

>>722347149
hm!
pretty shitty!

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>>722347149
this is art

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>>722328768
i can waste time, too

>>722348688
You can smudge my tool bb

>>722328768
Here's a quick rundown on modern art:

>Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs
>In contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.