What the fuck happened to rock music?

>>722259457
It went downhill ever since Nirvana got popular.

It seems to me at some point people will run out of good original material. Maybe it already happened... maybe that's why all music in general is worse now.

what are original lyrics by singer/songwriter

>>722259457
every genre has a limited lifetime because people only like 10-15 chord progressions tops. Everything in music is based on those progressions and about 40-50 melody tropes. It's all the same with different packaging.

>>722259457
It thematically shifted from passion and peace to capitalism and became sterile and vacuous as a result.

A combination of both the lack of people buying the music and the fact it's not as accessible as the carefully designed repeative crappy pop music they push on people today. Uncreative repeative pop music is both easier to make and produce and easier to hypnotize the younger generation into behaving like dumbass swag yards who are more likely to be influenced to spend money on retarded shit

>>722261878
Swagtards**

>>722259457
You got old, gramps

>>722259457
Nirvana was the most overrated band of the 90s.
Cobain was a whiny, narcissistic cunt.
Every band after was influenced by them.
That's why rock is dead.

>>722259457
it an hero'd

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The "it's popular therefore it sucks" mentality clashing with the "all good music is shit" mentality. There are plenty of good modern bands, as long as you don't listen to the radio too much.

>>722262727
This. Radio is almost exclusively garbage.

>>722262914
I shamefully admit some of it is my guilty pleasure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bHhpufKRjs

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>>722262727
not him but i want to add to this that literally every century had piles of garbage music in the mainstream popculture. people like mj always were the exception.

that being said, fuck glam and fuck disco.

>>722263315
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law
>fuck glam and fuck disco.
Hey, take that back!

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Rock isn't dead. Radio music has definitely taken over the mainstream. But if you do some digging you will find a lot of great bands.

>>722263315
That's true. The good music from back in the day overshadows the crap music that was definitely around too.

all you shitskin faggots saying "hurr durr music is shit now" are just plain retarded. A lot more music gets put out now, therefore you just have to dig a little deeper to find good music. Also, Nirvana is overrated af.

>>722263478
It didn't overshadow it, the shitty music was just forgotten in favor of the better, more memorable stuff. Regardless whether you love them or hate them, a lot of the Beatles' early stuff is pretty generic crap, and this is coming from a fan.

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>>722263587
Just like I said. This guy knows.

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>>722259457
Honestly, I believe the internet and exposure to excess information..

Take Kurt, since you posted him.
He grew up in a time where you had to actively get out and seek new music and art. You could have "YOUR" bands that were truly gems. Obscure things were far more obscure and this created more unique personalities, and thus.. more creative artists and flavorful music. He even dreamed up his own idea of punk rock before even actually hearing it, and even made music in his room before being exposed to it.. He may have not been a great guitar player, but he was an excellent song writer, and this is due to living is a society where being an outcast was truly more of an alienating experience. Being weird was truly weird. There was no internet to connect with others, only music scenes. Kurt even felt out of place in those scenes. The society he lived in molded him into his own person.

Nowadays people are all exposed to the same things in excessive amounts. People no longer share things through word of mouth or find new things hidden away in record stores. It's all available at a click of a mouse and you can just binge through it on youtube now. You can really appreciate the same when you had less convenience and less options.. at least, I feel most people are that way. People follow formulas and produce extremely similar art and music due all of this. Modern life creates more and more similar personalities in terms of creativity. Older generations may have had a lot of average folk, as they always have and will.. but society them produced more unique artists.

I just feel like society is burnt out and exhausted everything sound-wise.. and it just doesn't produce many interesting and unique people anymore.. The 90's was truly the last big explosion of unique music.. The 2000's was the last few spurts.. It's just dry and stale now.. Even the most standout artists sound like old stuff.

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>>722259457

>>722263604
Was it generic in its day though? Or does it seem generic now because so much music has used the same formulas since then?

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>>722259457
Kurt was an SJW. He killed rock like Hillary killed those guys in Bengazi.

Hey faggots you have been visited by Paul the Britbong Paedo. Reply hello paedo or he will rape all the children in your family in their sleep.

>>722263924
Both maybe? I'm not really sure. A lot of their first music sounds very similar to stuff put out by other boy bands that were long since forgotten but also popular. They only reason anyone remembers the Beatles is because they changed and became unique.

>>722259457

its underground again.

record labels dont go for rock anymore, they just go for $.

take 21 Pilots for instance....they are what passes for rock nowadays because they have edgy/emo lyrics that are basically rapped over over-produced electronic music.

nailed all the demographicsbut its definitely not "rock"

>>722259457
Th3 population of nuggers went through the roof. Its the best it has been since whites landed on the shores of Africa.

>>722264357
>21 Pilots
>rock

Umm... no faggot

the only good thing that came out of nirvana was dave grohl + kurt cobain giving a shotgun blowie jowie

>>722264625
Did you read his fucking post?

>>722264357
>record labels dont go for rock anymore, they just go for $.
>sumerian
>roadrunner

>>722264357
That's cause 21 Pilots is alternative

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>>722262409
You mad?

>2k17
>not listening to prog
>i shiggy diggy

>>722259457
it got waaaaaay better

https://youtu.be/X2BYmmTI04I

>>722265389
>implying this is rock

>>722259457
music evolved


i fuckin love electronic


but i also love all music except rnb bullshit and country

lol

>>722265541
lol

>>722265476
this rocks way harder than whatever band op is referencing

>>722259457

Whatever happened, it's sure as fuck better without that piece of trash around

>>722265669
lol

lmao

>>722259457
Everyone here has pretty much said it, tastes moved on. Studios follow money. Everything's become formulaic and the internet loses itself in content.

I don't just listen to rock, I follow a lot of music genres and rock is something I haven't found anything interesting in as of late. I mostly listen to the Offspring, Iron Maiden and Imagine Dragons
>Inb4 Imagine Dragons isn't rock
I don't care I like their music

>>722264939
not majors, therefore irrelevant.

>>722259457
thats grunge you tard

>>722265723
Thanks to him. The only reason music changed, for better and worse, is because of him. The mainstream came to Nirvana and Nirvana brought the underground to the masses. It's had it's ups and downs ever since because a lot of people didn't truly get it and just tried to copy. Though, some people did and they went on to to progress things, and even branch off entirely.

Things are just milked dry now. It's not and is his fault.

>>722263718
shut up dog

>>722266228
Warner Music Group is one of the 3 biggest record labels around and they have Dragonforce, DevilDriver, Anthrax, Avenged Sevenfold, Dio, Disturbed, Dire Straits and Dream Theatre signed. This was just from skimming the list. So don't give me that weak ass shit.

Curt Kobain was ALTERNATIVE ROCK.

He was also a faggot.

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My band just got word we're getting radio time on Seattle's alt Rock station. Proves that Rock music is shit right now.

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>>722266161
Can't argue with this.

>>722266633
none of those bands are relevant in 2017. shit, the most popular band out of that list is avenged sevenfold, and they couldn't even break 150K sales in america with their last album.

rock is dead. hate to say it, but its true.

it's still alive and well. The things we don't live in a vacuum where we can just point out what's good and bad in the rock music spectrum so instead were left scavenging in the dark trying to get through all the bad and mediocre shit in order to get to the good stuff. It's very easy to say "hey look at the 90s and how much better rock music was" but you're forgetting all the terrible crappie stuff hat came out at that time too. I think we're living in a great time for rock and every other kind of music but we won't able to see the clearer picture until 10 years I the future and then we'll say " damn they had some fucking awesome music in back in the 2010's why does music our suck now???" and the cycle will repeat. Such is life

>>722259457
Tool stopped making albums thats what

I would argue music criticism has shifted our perception more than anything. It used to be critics often focused on exposing larger audiences to obscure indie acts. But with the internet providing the musically curious a machine apart from music critics to broaden their horizons, criticism has shifted its focus on Top 40 music in an attempt to remain relevant and get clicks.

>>722267463
>Dream Theatre, Disturbed and Dire Straits
>Not relevant

christ man you are uninformed.

>>722264122
Weren't the Beatles the first to make psychedelic music with Sargent peppers ? Anyways they may be generic compared to today's music but by the standards of their time they were very innovative.

Blew its head off

>>722268531
They made several pop albums before then. And they certainly weren't the first band that played psychedelic music. They were still pioneers though.

>>722262409
Shit reply.

>>722259457
It just died, like someone took a shotgun to its head and executed it.

>>722260143
Nirvana wasn't even that good to be honest.

>>722264090
You are the cancer.

>>722264357
Honestly, I find nu-metal bands like FFDP and Shinedown to be better than new Rock just because of this problem. Hell, even Disturbed is better than that trash.

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>>722259457
>What the fuck happened to X?

Capitalism.

>>722268916
He's right though. Nirvana was very influential and very shitty.

>>722268531
no, 13th floor elevators and jimi hendrix already did psychedelic stuff in 1966 when the beatles were still doing their merseybeat thing. though albums like sgt pepper sure had a gigantic influence on some of the psychedelic greats, like hendrix.

>>722269163
>Hell, even Disturbed is better than that trash.
you take that back!

>>722268518
Disturbed is eh, their best album by far is Immortalized, with gems like Vengeful one and Sound of Silence. While I don't agree with their music fully, they are definitely relevant.

>>722269163
Haha dude your taste is shit.

>>722261945
Actually "swag yards" kinda has a ring to it.

I'll be happy when someone attempts to cop Deep Purple WITH credibility....we have good musicians making bloated fart rock, overall...

>>722263456
This.
>>722263871
Well, just like how music stores could stock their shelves with their personal selection of music/music they signed contracts to sell, the gateways of the internet can be curated in such a way that you only hear/see what "they" want you to hear.

You'd be surprised how much unique and obscure music is still out there.

>>722259457
White people stole it

>>722259457
It was never good

Kurt was a whiny cunt and a shifty guitar player

>>722259457
It died in the 80s

Kurt was a whiny cunt and a shitty guitar player

>>722266420
Sugar, pass the salt.
>what else should I be
>all apologies

>>722267523
And I'll be there to tell them that music also sucked in the 2010s.

>>722259457
Stop with this shit. Music was always garbage and good music still exists. You just have to get off your lazy ass and look for it.

Big dollar stadium shows killed it.

So now that we know why, who are the modern gems in the rough? Let's say past 2005.

>>722259457
The state of music in general is fucked. Radio music is mostly terrible, and Indy/obscure music is just as bad. A bunch of tattooed hipsters screaming into a microphone isn't good music.

>>722269545
>can't tell if he's bitching about Disturbed because I said it's better than modern day rock or if he's bitching about either of the two good bands because his own taste is shit.

Rock music didn't die.
Rock radio culture died.
Because Internet.
Because file sharing.
Because iThings everywhere
There is no cohesive culture now - no commmunity. Thats all.
Oh well - shit changes.

People under 40. They are just too timid.

Ain't gonna get no Iggy and the Stooges out of those little wankers.

>>722260143
This. So this. A watershed moment in the death of real rock n roll. What a human piss stain.

>>722270450
in general or just in rock music?
i'd say radiohead and queens of the stone age are still going very strong.

>>722270330
i love people who say this bullshit.

name one truly good rock band/artist that debuted in the 2010s.

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>>722263456
Radio is dead because Clear Channel owns something like 90% of the rock stations in America. They only play Top 40. The merger of radio is what killed radio. Look it up, it's crazy. Happened in like 1997.

>>722271845
Like a fucking orange.

>>722271707
>debuted in the 2010s

Why? Who gives a fuck when a band debuted if they're making good music right now, today.

>>722259457
It got better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcuYvYtHkhM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHttic3FrjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLEYQo98t0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMle586mIfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgACtRvTm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgK5ea4zPyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14h8NVpBA4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdoUWh0-h8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SbyZxJrP7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZHfiyWh6Qw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHGPt49owxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xNs6OHIeWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioaypy6WhBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYgT7K6bSVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHz-kDEMKN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmGft4DNChk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kQ7ENbzW0k

>>722259457
Rock music reached perfection with prog rock in the 70s
It all went downhill after prog
https://youtu.be/iqaa9qwpmSA

>>722271707
Awolnation

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>>722271845

>>722259457
BUT IM A CREEP

>>722273278
lol

>>722273614
Maybe the onus of responsibility is on the consumer and they shouldn't perpetrate or remain content with content like this on airwaves and should show their support for better music by buying that music. With money.

>>722272680
>katatonia's new garbage music
i still can't understand why anyone would ever pick this over any of their previous records.

>thrice
mah nigga. their live album is hands down one of the best ever made.

>>722259457
spoilt melenial retards don't know how to rock
the generation that comes after them and has to live in the shithole they make will rock hard

>>722273923
?

Fall of Hearts is better than anything they've put out since their doom days. Brave Murder Day was a better record overall, but as far as rock goes, their new proggy stuff is great.

I mean, did you listen to that song?

>>722273910
KEK
>expecting the lowest common denominator to make decisions that benefits itself
You're silly

>>722274056
>spoilt melenial
How did you turn on the computer?

>>722273910
Stop reading Ayn Rand. It's not good for you.

>>722274278
with the 'on' button

>>722259457
You guys need to listen to Silverchair

>>722273910
Considering they go for the children and use peer pressure its not really that strange and you cant really go and shoot the niggers and jews to keep them away for the children can we?

>>722274312
I don't really care for Rand. I'm an advocate of capitalism and a relatively free market, but the kind of anarchic capitalist utopia she would build in her books is not feasible in today's market. Her writing style was also pretty stiff, not exactly pleasurable to read at length.

But yes, I believe firmly in buying things that have a modicum of value or merit to them.

>>722274152
that record was the most disappointing in 2016 for me. followed by the latest descendents record.

>>722274474
>they go for the children
And where do children come from?

>>722274754
I guess we just fundamentally disagree on what makes good music. The riff and drum work on Hearts was very palatable to me, kept drawing me in. It was a pleasant experience.

>>722259457
It died long before Kurt did.

>>722274702
>>>/r/iamverysmart

>>722275095
I don't know what that is.

>>722274826
The people that recklessly shit them out, with little remorse or consideration of how stupid breeding is at this point.

>>722273766
IM A WEIRDOOOO

>>722275222
Then we can agree that social services such as welfare should be trimmed greatly, with the goal of eliminating them entirely to remove the incentive for stupid people to thrive.

But, what exactly do you propose should be done in the entertainment industry? Who should it cater to?

>>722274932
maybe.
what i absolutely cannot stand is the ridiculously slick and pristine atmosphere. that completely kills the whole record for me. that also killed the last one for me.

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>>722275222
>Dont breed goyim
We get it.

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>>722275532
No No No because the lower lifeforms can be easily exploited.
Welfare is basically a tax siphon.

>>722276730
You're preaching to the choir with these /pol/ memes, man. For as much as I disagreed with Rand, she was also a Jew that established principles very contrary to Kalergi and his ilk's.

>>722275265
What the hell are you doing here.