Choose wisely /b/

Knife, matches, raft, and toilet paper.

>>721908377
Pot, Saw, First Aid Kit, Knife

>>721908377
water purifier, first aid kit, knife, saw

>>721908377
Just a rope.

>>721908377
Tarp, purifier, weed, knife

>>721908830
You read my mind...

>>721909089
really only the logical choices. who wouldn't pick the water purifier?

>>721909308
The pot is more useful, imo. Can boil water and also use it to cook.

The water purifier will also eventually stop working as well.

> Knife, Pot, First Aid, Mirror (signalling and fire starting)

Knife, FAK, fishing rod, and pot.

>>721909308
water purifier won't get out the salt, boiling it will

>>721908377
Knife, rope, pot and hiking boots is the only correct answer

anybody who picks water purifier is a fucking aspie who would die in 2 hours

>>721908377
weed, ipod,volleyball,hammock
imma pretend im on a vacation

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>>721908947
kek

>>721908947
/thread

rope to hang myself

>>721908947
Zozzle

Pot, Weed (from a shitty dealer, so it has seeds), Knife, Mirror

>>721909666
You really are that retarded.

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4 rolls to toilet paper, make a raft from them, eat them, fish with them, purify water with them, make a tent out of them, the possibilities are endless...

>>721909666
Boiling it won't unless you can condense the steam into another receptacle

>>721908377
Flare gun, knife, tent, first-aid kit

Why would you ever pick hiking boots for an island? Just wear a pair of thongs or some shit

>>721908377
Weed, ipod, hammock and sunscreen. Time to chill until I die

Knife,filter,matches and the pot.

Hunting rifle is stupid, what are you gonna do? Shoot fish?

>>721908377
tent, pot, flare gun, matches

Knife. Tent.purifier. matches

>>721908377
Tarp, handsaw, water purifier, hiking boots.

Pot, mirror, hand saw, first aid kit.

The hand saw can take the knifes place in almost every way, just a little awkward.
Pot for water and food.
Mirror for fire and signalling
First aid kit for obvious reasons, and some have water purification tablets so who knows.

>>721908377
Knife
Pot and tarp- for desalination and clean water
Matches

5 oz of weed, matches, hammock and... 5 oz of weed.

First aid kit
Water purifier
Knife
Fishing rod

>Make a tent out of trees
>Make a hammock out of (fucking) leaves
>Dip branches in alcohol [fak] and make a little campfire with friction
>Domesticate all creatures possible, knife and fish the rest
>Use leaf-based hammock alcoho-based campfire at first distant sight of a boat (replacing the flare gun)

>>721908377
What is the climate? What is on the island?

Without knowing that:

>Pot

Useful for carrying things while gathering also usable for cooking and most importantly it gives you a way to clean any water by distilling using the lid.

>Tarp

Early shelter, useful for bundling and can be used to construct a pen or fish farm.

>knife

most tools can be fashioned with wood and rocks but without a good knife you can easily spoil food by rupturing their guts while flaying. It can also be very useful for delicate jointing

>?

Last one would be dependent on the area, if it was a large island with a lot of fast or dangerous fauna I would prefer the rifle. If there are few or no land animals I would choose the fishing rod. If neither option was particularly exploitable I would choose the vitamins so food gathering could be limited to caloric needs until a sustainable farm could be developed.

First aid kit gets an honorable mention but access to clean salt water and careful execution can negate the need.

Everything else is a luxury or can be made there.

>>721909666
It's not as great as distilling it, but given the hypothetical, boiling the water w/ the pot makes more sense in the long term. Of course the pot will corrode in due time, but it should last longer than the waterpurifier even being next to the ocean.

1. Mirror
2. Tarp
3. Flash light
4. Water purifier

I'd want to get off the island so I'd want to maximise my chances of getting seen. Plus shelter to keep the sun off.

>>721912507
The pot is clearly cast iron and will last centuries. You can distill the water by boiling it and catching the vapor with the lid.

Even with a freshwater source the pot is much better than a purifier because it purifies the water better and for longer and has other uses.

>>721913053
A good idea, self rescue is basically zero so you would want to signal but a better signal than a mirror or flashlight would be a smoke cloud that raises up so high it can be seen thousands of miles away in every direction. All you need is a big fire and wet things to burn on it.

So in this case you don't need any special tools to be seen.

>>721908377
pot, mirror,FAK, knife

OP here, you're 100 miles south of Chile.

>>721913776
Mirror is useless, better easier ways to make a fire or signal. Sharp brittle blades are also useless because you are taking the knife.

>>721914077
Nigger needs to look his best

>>721908377
Knife, compass, tarp, weed.

I don't trust the raft to get me across the ocean, but the tarp will be useful in the long term, shelter, storage, etc. on a wooden raft. Compass will guide me home, and the knife is necessary.

Weed is the backup plan. Just plant a ton of weed on the island, light a giant bonfire with it every night and some bros will cruise by eventually.

>>721914682
Make a small pool with dirt to block the waves and plant fronds around it to block the wind. Place the pool between you and the sun. Free Mirror.

Hammock, raft, boots and compass

>>721915212
Compass is useless. You can tell your direction by the way the sun moves across the sky. You can navigate by landmarks on the island and navigate by the stars at night.

Also if all of that was impossible somehow you could still make a compass with a pool of water sheltered from the wind, a leaf and either a small rock or dirt. When placed very carefully to not create surface movement, any magnetic particulate in the rock or dirt will be moved slightly by the earths magnetic pole showing you its direction. This method is incredibly slow because the pull is minute and there is a lot of room for error. You would need to do several test and use the aggregate data for your answer.

>>721915512
What are you going to drink?

>>721908377
Pot, knife, saw, matches

Saw will harvest trees like crazy, matches + pot = boiled crab, knife so I can kill myself.

>>721909778
No, just someone that knows how to use a hollowed out piece of wood and heated rocks to boil liquids/ cook with.

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Tarp and knife, for sure.
After reading the rest of the thread, I'm caught between the water purifier and the pot. This choice really depends on how much I can replenish the purifier, and how I can use it.
Come to think of it, the rope's pretty utilitarian. That's the third definite item I'm bringing.

>>721916031
I want to utilize the compass after building a raft. Also fuck navigating by the stars.

>>721916559
Boiled crab m8. Think about it.

>>721908377
First aid kit, tent, fishing rod, water purifier

>>721908377
5 oz weed. Ipod. Hammock. Flare gun.

Hiking boots, knife, tent and raft.

>>721916403
Why waste a spot on a saw when you can chop down trees with a stone and stick. Matches are a crutch. Many easy and reliable ways to start a fire and keep it going.

>>721916638
That raft isn't going to help you get across the ocean. Also if you can't navigate by the sun or the stars what makes you think you can read a compass?

>>721909778
>rope
>hiking boots

You can make rope, you also hiking boots are the definition of luxury in this scenario.

Easy, knife rod boots matches. As long as the island isn't completely shit then shelter, water collection and a bbq should be easy and fun to craft right off the bat. The other shit's just used sparingly while I work out how to use island resources to build better equipment.

>>721916967
>tent

What else can your tent do? The tarp can do everything the tent can do and more. The island provides all the things you need for shelter. Also that water purifier wont last a month with daily use and it wont desalinate ocean water.

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>>721908377
purifier, first aid, weed, flare gun

>>721918027
Never started a fire without matches? They are a solid pick for sure if you haven't but useless if you have. Also walking without shoes is pretty easy to do.

>>721918059
A tarp can get blown away, and do you really want to be out in the open on an island with poisonous spiders, snakes, etc? Also, I'd just dig until I get underground water and use it every 3 or 4 days, little faggot bitch cuck.

>>721909666
ok satan, call me when you are dead

>>721917632
Nigga I'm not a cave man, a saw will speed up harvest to the point to being able to build a raft. It's all about calorie management. Less time on stuff, the more you can do, with less. If the knife was a machete, I'd drop it for the rope.

>I've cut down a tree with just a hatchet and that shit took forever. Let alone getting it cut down into good parts.

weed, weed, weed, and ipod
watch me live this shit ez

>>721910226
newfag

>>721918369
Nah never so they're mostly to get me through while I master a new method. Would feel like a bit of a dickhead if rescue plane flew by first day and I didn't have a fire going.

As for the boots well a good pair should last years so they just seem like good value, but would work on building my own shoes as well

>>721918373
>Blown away

You tie it down and brace the center with a support rod.

>Poison animals

This is a trope that is blown out of proportion. If you have a tarp above you and a raised bed below you and a fire going nothing is going to bother you at night.

>Dig a well

On an island? Surrounded by salt water? There is no freshwater there. There is barely a chance for a spring. Your only reasonable chance at fresh water would be an in land pond that would be crawling with parasites.

Enjoy.

>>721918519
That saw is no good for cutting down a standing tree. As you cut the tree will press down on the blade. That is why axes are used to cut down trees before motorized saws were invented.

That saw is for cutting down through previously fallen wood. Get rekt.

>>721918714
Or no shoes.

>>721917794
Literally said not that raft.

>>721912169
Dead on

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>>721908377

Tarp for so many countless uses. Poll for food. First aid kit to use in conjunction with fishing poll. It will have what I need to make hooks and such. And the pot to poop in.

As a seasoned survivalist that does this shit for fun:

There is only one answer.

Fishing rod
Ipod
Weed
Vitamins

Relax, you own an island.

>>721911769

how are you gonna smoke the weed...

>>721918607
says the newfag kys

>>721919008
>water purifier

The pot is infinitely better for clean water and can do many other things.

>>721918978
No raft.

Are you a veteran sailor? There is no chance you are self rescuing off a deserted island in the ocean.

There is, however a tonne of ocean traffic. A constant smoke signal will get you rescued in less than a month.

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>>721919062
he literally has matches as the second pick wtf? and finding anything to smoke out of is not very hard.

>>721919360

like what

>>721908531
Knife
Pot
Weed
Flare gun

>>721919420
Not him but burn a flat part of a stick until its red hot. Pull it out and put it on the ground, put the weed on the ember. Smoke.

>>721918758
You know, you are really fucking autistic. Like really autistic. You have absolutely no chance in succeeding in this world, your dick is most likely microscopic (at best), and you have chins by the dozen. God created you only so you could get mocked. The next time you do your monthly exercise of going to the grocery store and buying frozen pizzas, consider buying a gun so you can do the world a favor and finish the abortion your mother couldn't do.

Enjoy.

>>721919645
Why the flare gun?

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>>721919691
You chose bad items and then get madder than anyone has ever been on the internet and then call me autistic. Classic anon.

Stay mad numale

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>>721919710

>>721919710
To light my weed

>>721908377
inflatable raft obviously cuz im getting the fk outta here, flare gun so that people will notice me faster, 5 ounces of weed but you dont mention if rolling papers comes with and if they dont ill just light up bigass buds using the matches and inhale the smoke . rescue team shouldnt take too long cuz im sure as hell gooing to lose track of time after smoking all that weed

>>721919827
And you choose to stay in your parents house and leaching their monetary value, classic virgin betamale.

>>721919895
Could you make a bomb ass pipe out of the gun?

>>721919306
I wouldn't trust ocean winds and storm conditions to allow a smoke signal to be visible far enough away for the random chance of a vessel to by passing close by enough to see it, let alone paying attention at that time, willing to seek it out, and able to locate the source readily.

I'd rather chance it.

>>721919985
So mad. kek.

>>721918968
Yeah no shoes will be fine down the beach, but when I'm in the jungle area it'll mainly be for work and I'll need to be able to get to what I need with a minimum of fuss.

See after the basics are set I'll begin to develop the island - a nice cabin with a couple bedrooms, marine traps to automate catching / stockpiling of food, a nice firepit and outdoor setting, that kind of stuff.

Once I'm comfortable I'll go on to build more cabins along the beach, get it looking like a nice place for family getaways, that way if I'm eventually rescued I'll have a resort / tour business ready to go.

So yeah I want the boots

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>>721908377
I'm assuming we're getting dropped off as we would be in every day attire, so I'd already have some good shoes and a knife, which is a start.

>Matches
Obvious choice. Good for heat, light, cooking, and makes water much safer to drink.

>First Aid Kit
Kind of mandatory, because you're fucked if you get hurt and don't have one, plus it's one of the few items on this list that I'm actually trained to use.

>Pot
Might be a mistake, but you kind of need something to boil water in, and it'll be useful to cook with.

>Tarp
A large, good tarp can help with shelter, but it'll also be a source of backup textiles if I need it. Also very useful for moving things, and could potentially be a sail or a rain catcher.

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>>721908377
saw, hiking boots, raft, fishing rod

fuck i forgot how to triforce
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>>721908377

Inflatable raft, water purifier, flash light, and flare gun.

I'm getting off this rock.

>>721908531
Toilet paper? That seems like kind of a wasted choice.

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Hammock, rope, matches, knife. Sleep cozy bb

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>>721920074
Don't you have a can of Pringles to down or something?

>>721909959
Then you're going to die.

>>721908377
Pot, Tarp, Knife, Raft

Raft, tarp and tent are interchangeable-ish, depending on what each is made of. But two of those plus the knife and pot or you made the wrong choice.

>>721908377
Pot, Raft, Saw, Rod.

>>721920375
Keep the (You)'s coming. What is this like 6 layers of mad deep?

>>721920470
>He thinks hes going to saw down a tree

>>721908947
lmao

>>721908377
Can i just take 20 ounces of weed?

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>>721908377
Lemme get, the weed the fishing rod knife and the tarp

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>>721920124
>>Matches
>Obvious choice. Good for heat, light, cooking, and makes water much safer to drink.

Learn to start a fire without matches. It's a bitch, but it's possible, and when you get it going, you can pretty much keep it going indefinitely. Waste of an item.

>>First Aid Kit
>Kind of mandatory, because you're fucked if you get hurt and don't have one, plus it's one of the few items on this list that I'm actually trained to use.

If you need to be trained on how to apply gauze and bandaids, then you are already going to die. If you get injured to the point that you would seriously need anything from the first aid kit, then you are already going to die.
>>Pot
>Might be a mistake, but you kind of need something to boil water in, and it'll be useful to cook with.

This is just idiotic. Carve a bowl out of wood.


>>Tarp
>A large, good tarp can help with shelter, but it'll also be a source of backup textiles if I need it. Also very useful for moving things, and could potentially be a sail or a rain catcher.

Probably your best item, but you could still do better. If you built a proper shelter a tarp would be unnecessary.


I rate 3/10. You will die, quickly.

My gear:
>raft
>fishing pole
>saw
>hiking boots

>>721920020
Hahaha

ITT: Millennials that have never held a tool or gone camping.

>>721919039
>And the pot to poop in.
The fuck? Dude, just shit in the bushes. You're on a deserted island and you're using your only pot to shit in?

>>721919645
This is the best combo

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Guys guys you gotta do it like this.
Knife
>okay I really shouldn't have to explain this one.
Rope
>tying shit. Like for a raft or a really shit way to become an hero.
Hunting rifle
>food or if you really need to kill yourself.
5 ounces of weed
> I'm sorry Wilson.

4 volley balls.

>>721920699
here we can see a retard in its natural habitat, shit talking and making no sense on 4chan

>>721908377
>pot
to boil water, make soup, stew etc

>first aid kit
for all the useful stuff inside

>tent
comfy sleep

>knife
to cut shit

fite me fgts

>>721921236
What are you going to eat?

>>721921014
volleyball raft
>get a few logs and use the volleyballs as floats to keep it up

volleyball bowl
>cut volleyball in half. enjoy two bowls or 1 bowl and a nice hat

volleyball companion
>draw a face on your volleyball

volleyball shelter
>place your volleyballs above you, and pack mud in between them for a makeshift shelter

volleyball chair
>pack your volleyballs into sand. sit on top

volleyball pillow
>rest head on volleyball

volleyball hunting weapon
>throw volleyball at squirrells/small game


brilliant

>>721908377
Weed, volley ball, matches, tp cause I'm retarded

>>721920699
>Learn to start a fire without matches.
No, because the odds of my being stranded somewhere that I'd need that skill are so tiny that it's not worth the time I'd need to put into mastering the skill.

>If you need to be trained on how to apply gauze and bandaids, then you are already going to die
I'm going to a jungle island. My concern is more about the antibiotics, antiseptics, and disinfectants.

>Carve a bowl out of wood
Which you can't use to boil water with, which was the point of taking it in the first place.

>Build a proper shelter and you won't need a tarp.
True, but you're assuming you'll have time to do that in the first few days, and that the weather will be great on the day you arrive. It's a lot easier to take some wire from the medkit and tie up a tarp than it is to build a shelter in a monsoon.

Though it's only fair I return your critique, so...
>raft
If that's intended as an escape method, you didn't think that through. If it's intended for fishing, just build a float dude. It's literally one of the easiest things in the world to build, you literally just need some trees.

>Fishing pole
All well and good, but line and hooks will be an issue.

>Saw
Seems a bit... Pointless? I mean, I can see how it would be useful, but I can't think of many ways it's actually going to make the process of surviving easier. The few examples I can think of where you'd use it have ways you could just get around it.

>Hiking boots.
Reasonably sensible, but it depends on the climate of the island. As someone who lived in Guatemala for 3 years, I can tell you, those are going to be uncomfortable as fuck in a tropical zone, and if you don't take real good care of your feet, you're going to get a fungal infection.

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>>721908377
fishing rod
water purifier
weed
flare gun

I considered raft but waves are probably too rough to make a decent fishing platform

considered tent but it's not much effort to build an adequate shelter out of twigs, branches, etc

shouldn't need a first aid kit, salt water is sufficient to clean a wound.

if you know how to build and use a tinder nest, you're good to go

>>721921552
>line and hooks

I selected the rod as well, but was assuming it wasn't completely shit and came with at least line, hooks, maybe couple swivles, if not it shouldn't even be on there

Knife, tarp, pot with lid, and vitamins.

>>721921464
thank you anon

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Here I just made the desiscion 10X fucking easier.

I pick water purifier (I know you hate me), Hunting rifle for food, Knife because I'm going to need that for actually need something to prepare the food. and matches, because it's pretty hard to start fire just with sticks and friction, Even if you use our shoelaces to make a bow thingy to spin the stick.

You don't need a tent, you can make shelter.

You don't need a tarp.

I was thinking about the fishing rod, that one is a good choice.

You don't need a compass... well maybe you do but there are other ways of telling north.

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Handsaw
Knife
Tent
water purif

Day 1
setup tent - temp shelter

use handsaw/knife to make long term wood house/tools/fire to live forever

water purif cuz why not, might need to purify some water until you find safe water to drink.

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>>721908377
Knife
Volleyball
Sunscreen

That's all I need

>>721922016
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I would take the mirror because it can start a fire infinite times given its a tropical island

Fishing rod because food.

tent for comfort

knife for cutting fish and small trees.

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>>721921720
>salt water is sufficient to clean a wound.
As a paramedic I can tell you that this false. It can help sanitize it to a certain extent, but it won't do shit for infection over time, and in a jungle climate infection is a huge issue.

Weed was also a terrible choice. That shit's not helping you stay alive.

>>721908377
4 Vollyballs. Then I could breed them for unlimited food, and shelter materials.

>>721921552
Not the other guy but salt water is a great disinfectant and the reality is an antibiotic from a FAK isn't going to help against anything other than a scratch.

Also you can boil water in a wooden bowl but carving a wooden bowl takes fucking forever and the pot is so fucking good.

Matches are a requirement for people who cant start a fire on their own. They open the door to fire usage which is what will keep you alive and signal your rescue. A fire is easy to keep going.

>>721908377
weed, purifier, knife, saw

>>721921552
>Though it's only fair I return your critique, so...
>>raft
>If that's intended as an escape method, you didn't think that through. If it's intended for fishing, just build a float dude. It's literally one of the easiest things in the world to build, you literally just need some trees.

A raft is great for traveling faster, especially if there is dense forest/jungle. My idea was primarily for fishing though... and when I'm not using it, I can make a temporary lean-to until I construct my primary shelter.

>>Fishing pole
>All well and good, but line and hooks will be an issue.

A figured a fishing pole means a functional fishing pole with at least some line. If that isn't the case, I could make something work either way.

>>Saw
>Seems a bit... Pointless? I mean, I can see how it would be useful, but I can't think of many ways it's actually going to make the process of surviving easier. The few examples I can think of where you'd use it have ways you could just get around it.

Have you ever been camping? A saw is perfect for SAWING wood. You can saw limbs/trees/bamboo for shelter construction. And it makes collecting fire wood so much easier. What are you gonna do? look for loose limbs on the ground? Come on /b/ro.

>>Hiking boots.
>Reasonably sensible, but it depends on the climate of the island. As someone who lived in Guatemala for 3 years, I can tell you, those are going to be uncomfortable as fuck in a tropical zone, and if you don't take real good care of your feet, you're going to get a fungal infection.

I'll give you that. I'd be more worried about getting cuts and such if I were wearing anything else. Also, boots are good for ankle support so you don't twist your ankle over rocky terrain. Obviously you gotta take them off and make sure you stay dry underneath... that goes without saying.

>>721922305
Dumb dumb, it will kill bacteria that have entered the wound during the laceration. It desiccates the cells and they die, you lose some skin cells. If you already have an infection it wont do shit but it is enough to stop an infection from starting.

Also you should know the antibiotics in a FAK aren't going to stop an established infection either.

>>721922370
This is me >>721922305

Read that.

Also,
>an antibiotic from a FAK isn't going to help against anything other than a scratch.
Depends on what kind of kit you're getting, but talking about the kind of EMT kit that I have, there's plenty there that would help you, and even some bacitracin or something would be absolutely invaluable considering how easy it is to get infections in the jungle. Plus the kit is going to have plenty of bandages and pins, which will both be very useful. Many of the emergency variety FAKs even come with matches and/or energy bars.

Inflatable Raft, knife, fishing pole, flare gun.

Raft out that bitch,will reinforce the raft in any way fit to make it good for the water.

Use fishing pole and knife to catch and prep the fish. Sushi is good in my book. Get out far enough to get a view of some boats, and signal off the flare gun and get rescued.

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>>721908377
ipod
weed
matches
hammock
problem?

>>721922570
Not him but:

>raft
The raft is an okay choice because it is versatile in that it can be used for shelter and as a sled for carrying many things but it has limited use as a vehicle especially when you consider the other uses will likely puncture it. Also fishing from an inflatable raft is not appealing at all.

>Fishing pole

Seems like a great idea but the reality is you can catch many fish with an inland channel trap.

Dig out an area into the beach and let water flow into it. Find a big stick and wait for a fish. Either try to spear the fish if you are good at that or just bash the water to stun the fish. Tear it apart and bait the trap. More will come in and not be able to get out. You can expand the trap to be an actual fish farm once you are not in danger of dying from starvation.

>Saw

This is a bait item. Most people have never used a saw or cut down a tree. You are not going to cut down a tree with a saw, it would take less time and energy to make a stone hatchet. Most trees on islands are no so much with the branches. Saws are great at cutting wood at precise points in a straight line. For felling a tree you want an axe.

>Boots

This is a funny one too but probably not bait. Walking without shoes is not nearly as dangerous or painful as most people think it is even on rocks. This is 10% a luxury item.

>>721923047
Nope, you good.

>>721922570
>(fishing pole) I could make something work either way.
Like what? Not saying that you can't, I just have no knowledge of survival fishing, and I'm curious. A hook would be easy enough, but line would seem more difficult. Making good rope is hard.

>look for loose limbs on the ground?
In the jungle? Fuck yeah. You just walk around a bit and you'll find something like what you need. Might work different if it's a more temperate island, but if that shit's near the equator, I'm good.

>>721923047
Die happy mate. I'll have a drink for you when I make it back.

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>>721920379
stop being a bitch. weed is edible.

>>721922576
see >>721922653

>>721908377
Water Purifier, tent, vitamins, first aid kit.

>>721922653
I did read it. You are dead wrong.

A FAK is not a trauma kit or a tactical medical kit. The picture is also clearly a store bought premade kit. The only antibotic is probably a topical one and you would be lucky if it was a cream tube instead of antibotic coated bandages.

Salt water will stop any infection from starting. If you already have an infection in progress you would still be fucked. The fact that you are arguing that makes me think you are not a paramedic.

>>721923272
Kek, at least you'll die happy, I guess.

>>721923247
In the jungle, wood on the floor will most likely be soaked. How do you not know this?

>>721923561
You can dry it out on the beach in a day assuming its not raining however island trees are almost all like coconut trees, very few branches and an almost unusable bark. Not much but leaves on the floor.

Water Purifier, tent, first aid kit and a knife.

Water self explanatory.
Tent avoid insects at night that a tarp shelter can not.
First aid self explanatory.
Knife - food/hunting

>>721909508
thought "pot" meant "weed" lol

>>721923468
>A FAK is not a trauma kit or a tactical medical kit. The picture is also clearly a store bought premade kit.
That's actually fair, I was thinking of a kit like my own backup kit, not the tacklebox they show up there.

>>721923689
What happens when your water purifier is used up in less than a month of daily use assuming you don't crack its delicate plastic case before then?

>>721922131
Mirrors not bad if you're confident in sun, but maybe consider rifle scope for the same purpose and also gets you rifle

>>721923212
>>Saw
>This is a bait item. Most people have never used a saw or cut down a tree. You are not going to cut down a tree with a saw, it would take less time and energy to make a stone hatchet. Most trees on islands are no so much with the branches. Saws are great at cutting wood at precise points in a straight line. For felling a tree you want an axe.

I have used both an axe and a saw many times over, and I agree with you. The axe would be better, but there are none on the list which is why I went with a saw. I'm not looking to fell humongous trees... just mostly stuff that is 6" or less in diameter for shelter and firewood. A saw does make it MUCH easier (and faster) to collect dry firewood and building materials... and whenever you do get yourself established, it has very advanced uses pertaining to woodworking.

>>721923687
>however island trees are almost all like coconut trees
You have no idea what you're talking about. This is like telling someone working for survival in canada that there's only maple trees.

>>721923561
Leave it on the beach for a couple days then. If you're in the jungle or on the coast of an island, EVERYTHING is going to be wet, or at least moist. Do you have any fucking idea how humid it is most of the time? Might be different elsewhere, but around here? If it's not in direct sunlight, it's going to be wet.

>>721923813
Mirror is actually not that great. It is flat so the magnification is minimal and it would be a crap shoot if you aim correctly to signal.

The mirror gives you nothing that matches don't and you can free up that spot entirely if you can make a fire on your own. If you can't, stick with the matches.

>>721923799
Yeah the purifier is fairly shit, but it does buy a little time to work something else out which could be critical

>>721923799
In this case the pot might be better, touche

>>721923959
You can make an axe with rocks and stick. They work really well too.

>>721924052
If you switch it out with the pot you can purify fresh and salt water as soon as you get a fire (which should be job one) and it has all the other uses like transporting, digging and cooking.

>>721923976
Deserted islands are isolated and relatively small. One species of tree will usually strangle out the others and often they are Arecaceae which include palm trees. Faggot.

>>721924535
Is the pot even needed? Is a desalination system very difficult to rig up out of island resources?

>>721918919
Not the guy you were talking to, but I'm assuming this island has palm trees. You can easily saw your way through those without any weight problems

>>721924121
You can, but it's really, REALLY hard to do. Seriously, go out and try it next time you're on a hike. You don't get tools, unless you chose the knife or saw. Now make a usable axe. Most people won't be able to.

>>721924535
>Deserted islands are isolated and relatively small.
Hmm. This is actually a fair point. I was actually thinking about this from the frame of reference of having to survive in a climate and jungle like what you see on Hawai'i, because I lived there for a couple years and was out in the boonies plenty of times.

I'll have to look into the conditions on smaller islands.

hunting rifle
>good for murdering natives for meat

handsaw
>dismemberment and amputations

ipod
>preloaded with queens of the stone age

weed
>gonna be in a very weird mental place, best to have a good mindset

>>721908377
I'll give my opinion on things. And this is under the assumption that you will get rescued.

Pot - Drinkable water is without question.
Knife - The most basic of all survival equipment.
FAK - Seawater does a good job of cleaning wounds, but there's some stuff in a FAK that will fight infection.
Hiking Boots - Take care of your fucking feet. They are so easy to fuck up and they carry your weight damn near 24 hours a day. If you can't walk, you're fucked. And I'd much rather be able to walk or run without a limp or some tree bark thongs breaking.

I was about to choose a compass, but the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Face the rising sun and left is north. I thought about Tarp or Tent, but you can make shelter out of some crazy shit. Tough choice between Rope and Hiking Boots, but you can make rope.

>>721924814
You need a way to boil the water. You can use a solar still but without a clear catch you will be fighting yourself. It would be so slow you would be better making rain water catches and storing the water.

Pot also has all the other uses. It is a solid pick.

I had a multiply-orgasmic GF, and once in the two years we were a couple, I made her pass out from orgasm. It was just a moment, but when she regained her senses we just had to stop for a while.

>>721925321
very cool

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>>721908377
pot, knife, tarp, first aid kit

>>721925321
Well *that* went to the wrong thread!

>>721924883
Saws are not meant to be used to cut horizontally to fell a tree. Every millimeter you cut into the tree adds serious weight and friction. The blade would be immovable without pushing mightily against the tree which is a massive calorie loss. Google a tree saw. They were two man tools and very long so that you could use your whole body to move the blade. A saw is a terrible tool for felling a tree.

>>721925057
>hunting rifle
>>good for murdering natives for meat
Deserted island, no natives. Note that natives and native wildlife are not the same thing.

>handsaw
>>dismemberment and amputations
Woodsaws are not good for cutting meat or raw bone.

>ipod
>>preloaded with queens of the stone age
So you'll have music. For 4-8 hours. Good job.

>weed
>>gonna be in a very weird mental place, best to have a good mindset
No significant nutritional content, psychoactive properties are of limited use in a survival situation.

I rate 2/10. Your bones will feed the local fauna.

4 pots

2 to wear as shoes
1 for urine (think bear grylls)
1 for a helmet

>>721925572
>>hunting rifle
>>>good for murdering natives for meat
>Deserted island, no natives. Note that natives and native wildlife are not the same thing.

if no one is there, how does anyone know that?

>>721924998
The thing is a stone axe is made properly by firing a whole through a nice weighty stick, lodging the stone into the hole and then compressing the wood with lashing. This makes an axe you can swing full bodied and fuck up trees with. and this is with a fairly blunt edge.

>>721925137
The antibiotics in a household FAK will not stop an infection from anything other than a surface scratch which salt water can also do.

Hiking boots are the choice of people who have never been outside anywhere other than a city. Your feet have evolved with a millennia of walking barefoot. The natural world isn't made of broken glass and used needles. You will build a callous and you will be fine. Worried about your health? Take vitamins instead because your diet will not be varied and you will feel the effects of your limited diet very quickly.

>>721924814
depends on island. if you have some big leaves you could always fashion something, but it might not be too waterproof.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA

This dude makes some shit. Worth the look.

>>721925763
If a tree falls in the forest but no one is around, does it make a sound? How could you ever know if you'd reached omnipotence? Nigger I don't know, I'm not a philosopher, I'm just telling you the rules.

>>721925796
Yes, and the following things are all skills you need to practice over time to get good with:
>picking the right stone
>picking the right type of wood
>firing a hole through a stick without damaging it
>fitting sections of a tool together
>making lashing
>felling trees

Some of those might be easier than others, but do you really want to risk your life on a number of skills you don't have time to practice? Every second you spend fucking around with making an axe is a second you aren't spending taking care of water, shelter, food, or anything else.

>>721925544
? Have you ever sawed down a tree? Cause I've done it multiple times. We're talking silly little palm trees here, they don't rest on their trunk like that and will balance just fine until you get quite a bit into it.

>>721908377
Tent, Knife, Purifier, Weed.

>>721926140
tropical trees usually have waxy leaves that are great for holding water. It is meant to keep water in them but it also helps keep them rigid enough to not tear when holding water and it makes them resistant to puncture.

>>721926384
i saw em down all the time just for fun, did one yesterday, took 2 minutes, glad it didnt hit the house

Pot(cooking, water purifier, other uses), hammock, (can become trap, Gill net, rope, twine, other things), knife cause then I don't have to make one, tent don't have to waste time building shelter.

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>>721926704
ma nigga

>>721926301
>picking the right stone
Nope. Any will do and when it breaks beyond recovery you can unlash it and stick a new one in.

>>picking the right type of wood

Nope, any will do. The handle will last years even with softer wood. Harder is better but takes longer to fire.

>firing a hole through a stick without damaging it

Nah. As long as you know the basic technique you are fine and there is always more wood. The basic technique is to chisel out a groove and then drop an ember into it and let it slowly burn through, you wil need many embers to do this. If it catches fire bury the head in the sand and start over.

>fitting sections of a tool together
What? You jam the rock in the hole. The lashing to tighten the wood around the rock head is optional but it helps

>making lashing
Jungle vines. Tearing leaves into strips. Again, it is a boon but not a requiement.

>Felling trees

That is what the axe is for. If you can't find a suitable handle that is already on the ground you can cut a tree down with just the head. It takes a lot longer but the caloric loss is low.

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>>721927497
>MUH SKILLS
>SURVIVAL IS EASY BRUH
>JUST MAKE THE TOOLS BRUH
Ok.

flint
hatchet
paracord
iodine

>>721908947
/thread

>>721926384
They are about a foot thick. The handsaw pictured is for cutting horizontal lumber with a vertical cut.

A horizontal cut on vertical wood would be a nightmare. Better to chisel or make an axe. Less time, less energy.

When I cut down trees while camping for the summer in the BC mountains I always use an axe. Once it is felled I use a debranching axe to clear the branches and then a small collapsible handsaw for length.

The only required tool for all three jobs is the first axe. In fact a hatchet could also do all three jobs. I would never use the clearing axe or the saw for any job it wasn't meant to do.

You're literally retarded if you don't pick
>Fishing rod
>Water purifier
>Raft
>Flare gun

>>721927756
Calm down Nu-male.

Consider this:

>making an axe is easy
>A saw is the wrong tool for the job
>The saw would take up a valuable spot for another tool you can't make

>>721928154
This is bait.

>>721908377
Boots, Water Purifier, Tent and Knife

>>721928288
Nigger I aint taking no saw, that shit is for pussies. I'm just going to knock down trees with my flaccid cock. Get on my level, scrub.

>>721928154
Hey, come on now. We wouldn't want to bait anyone with insincerity, now would we?

>>721908377
>Insect Repellent, I don't think I want to catch some unknown virus or some shit and nobody knows what the fuck is wrong with me when I get home
>Vitamins, probably as a just-in-case measure
>First Aid because on a deserted island there is no second aid bitch
>Handsaw, not for the saw itself but for the metal

>Axe can be made via large stick, large leaves, and a sharp rock
>Use a coconut or something to cook water so it's drinkable
>Handsaw metal can be used to light fires.
>Fishing rod can be made with stick and lots of leaves, or at least fibers
>Signal planes with three fires, that's basically the universal SOS signal

>>721929217
You can't cook with a coconut.

You can't effectively make an axe without practice.

You aren't going to be starting any fires on a deserted island using just metal from a saw, and good luck finding flint on a sand bar that has a few palm trees and nothing else.

>>721929398
Well, a fresh coconut can actually withstand fire pretty well.

We're going into this assuming that /b/ either knows absolutely nothing or something.

Island state never established. There could be a cave for all we know.

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>>721928088
I'm not saying it's the best tool for the job, I'm just saying it'd be no problem to get it done.
I don't need your murican qq blabber, trying to impress anyone with your tool knowledge is fucking futile when you're saying you wouldn't be able to saw this shit

>water filter
>fishing rod
>flare gun
>4 ounces of weed

>build shelter
>fish for food every day
>smoke throughout (I assume I get a bowl?)
>shoot flare every week until there's one left
>if no one rescues me, finish weed
>kill self with final flare when bored enough

>>721929720
>no problem to get it done
It would be a big problem. You would exhaust yourself on one tree. You would literally be better off chiseling with a rock.

>>721930540
I'm sure it'd be- for a murican

knife water purifier tarp weed

>>721929398
>You can't cook with a coconut.
Yes you can

>You can't effectively make an axe without practice

Yes you can

>You aren't going to be starting any fires on a deserted island using just metal from a saw

Massively time consuming method. Bow drill is still the best method for starting a fire from scratch. Best as in it is the most reliable and least intensive. Even if you don't have a bow you just rotate the spindle back and forth with your hands, takes longer but it is still the second best method.

If you have never started a fire before, though, matches are a good pick.

>>721931139
So I have tool knowledge that I am flaunting and at the same time I am a useless American that can't use tools.

That is a bizarre argument. Then again, you thought it would be easy to cut down a tree with a handsaw.

knife: for basic construction
water purifier: easier than boiling it
first aid kit: obvious
hunting rifle: would make hunting so much easier

>>721931563
>water purifier: easier than boiling it
For about 2 weeks until it is clogged. Also lets hope you have a freshwater supply because purifiers do not desalinate.

>>721930367
Kill yourself with a flare gun? i dont think thats easy, it would hurt like a bitch because they dont penetrate that much at all, they just bounce and fire stuff

>>721908377
ez: the tent, the first aid kit, the water purifier and the rifle

>>721908377
Water purifier
Fishing Rod
Pot
Saw

I will get the hand saw, fishing rod, mirror and first aid kit,
>use hand saw for cutting trees with coconuts
>plant and eat shitton of coconuts
>fish some fish for protein
>use mirror to burn coconut husk with the sun reflect and cook the fish
>first aid kit in case i fuck up

>>721916559
i think you can make a rope with coconut husk, it may take long but you can do it

>>721925618
kek

Official item list

>Troll tier
Sunscreen
Toilet paper
Ipod
Hiking boots
Handsaw
Flare gun
Flashlight
Insect repellent
Hammock
Compass
Mirror
Water purifier
Rope
Weed
Tent
Volleyball

>Good tier
Inflatable raft
Vitamins
Fishing rod
Hunting rifle
First aid kit
Knife
Matches

>Essential tier
Tarp
Pot

>>721932595
You wouldn't want to. If there were no vines you would be better tearing up leaves and spinning them together.

>>721931435
I called you a useless murican in the previous response too, you know. It's such a classic murican thing too, trying to impress the other useless muricans by going all over board with tools and equipment.

You're talking like you convinced me or something, I already know it's easy. The palm trees already grow at an angle, so it'd probably be even easier to get them down.

4 cans of insect repellent.
>1 for ears
>1 for mouth
>2 for asshole

>>721908947
My sides

>>721933104
Your argument is still that I know a lot about tools but at the same time I know nothing about tools.

Even if all the trees were at the extreme angle in your cherry picked picture, look how wide it is, you would have to climb halfway up the tree to even get a few teeth of movement and the tree would lurch violently back at you when the top separated.

You would be better finding a good stone and chiseling the bottom near the side that the tree extends out. It would fall under its own weight quickly and without much effort and then you could cut it as you like or just build a fire near it and let it begin to consume it after you harvested the fronds and bark.

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>>721908377
knife
tent
raft
rifle
weed

>>721910884
almost any island of any size has wild pigs, or rats or other rodents at least from long ago human visitors

why is anyone picking the tarp when you can get a tent, which is basically several tarps plus extra shit

>>721920846
Do you think that was not a joke?

>>721908377
Pot knife first aid water purifier

>>721908377
Once I am on it, it i no longer a deserted island. Am I imediately picked up and then transported to a new island, but then that one is not deserted any more, so then picked up again and again?

Why don't I just carjack the mofo that keep picking me up and dropping me off, and go home?

Knife, first aid kit, pot, and boots. These are the most logical choices. Anything else is wrong.

>>721934227
They both provide shelter. Tarps are much stronger than tents. Tarps can be used to bindle and carry things that would ruin a tent. Tarps are completely waterproof, tents are not. Tarps can be used as containing walls for fish farms or pens. etc.

The tarp has utility. The tent has to be destroyed to serve multiple functions.

>>721908377
if there is a dense canopy:

rope
knife
Tarp
fishing rod

if no canopy swap fishing rod with sunscreen because I will burn in less than an hour

hmm anon. is assuming that the deserted island is in the tropics. Lots of deserted islands in cold climates as well. In which case, better shelter becomes much more important, as does the boots. Walking around on island made boots, in the snow wouldn't be much fun........

>>721908377
Knife
Matches
Pot
Tarp

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>>721933555
I never said you knew a lot about tools, don't flatter yourself. You're suggesting chipping at a tree with a rock over using a saw, so you obviously don't.

>Extreme angle
I literally took the first pic I could find, here's a proper cherry you wouldn't need to saw horizontally at all.

Normal people would pick the tree that best fit their needs with minimal effort required, but if you wanna sit there for hours until your hands bleed, be my guest.

Water purifier, First aid kit, matches, and depending how much ammo i have then the hunting rifle. If less than 20 bullets than I'd choose the knife.

>>721908377
Insect repellent
First aid kit
Vitamins
Hand saw
I can just distill water naturally
Vitamins just in case there's little food
Hand saw for construction
Hammock and tent could be made
Insect repellent because fuck bugs

>>721935777
>I never said you knew a lot about tools
>I don't need your murican qq blabber, trying to impress anyone with your tool knowledge

Again a cherry picked image. Most grow straight up.

Even with all that aside it is still too thick to cut with a saw. You would have to score all the way around and there would still be uncut heart wood that could hold it together causing you to chisel.

OR

You could chisel it and let its own weight fell it

OR

you could make an axe in an afternoon and cut trees all day with the same energy it would take you to saw through one tree with a handsaw not to mention your blade is irreplaceable and would be too dull to cut after a few trees while the axe can be reworked and replaced.

Both options are exponentially better than the handsaw and free up a slot for something critical like vitamins to supplement your extremely limited diet or a first aid kit to treat all the wounds you would receive while fucking around with things you don't know about.

>>721935586
>>721914017

>>721935777
How the fuck do you think people cut down trees before they could smelt metals you fucking moron. You can chop down a tree with a sharpened rock.

Stoner here, why haven't you turned your flower into a vapeable liquid yet?

It's almost like you like losing money.

>>721908947
Beat me to it anon.
Well played sir. Well played.

>>721936429
posted early.

100 miles south of the southern point of chile would be closer to the arctic circle than the subtropic line. 100 miles south of the northern point of chile would still be in the tropics.

I think it was a troll.

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>>721908377
Assuming the fishing rod comes equipped with basic tackle.

> pot for cooking and water desalinization / purification.

> knife for obvious fucking reasons

> mirror for signaling and concentrating sunlight for fires.

> fishing rod for subsistence living.

Wait. Pic related

Knife and pot are a given. Only an idiot would pass those up.
I probably go with vitamins because you should be able to procure calories, but not necessarily balanced nutrition.
I'm assuming the rifle comes with a moderate supply of ammo so that would be #4. It makes starting a fire easy. And hunting, self defense, signalling, even fishing make it rather versatile.

Mirror, knife, first aid kit, tarp
Most of the other essentials you could make

>>721921552
You can easily boil water in a wooden bowl with hot rocks. https://youtu.be/jGd6YOE-_8c

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>>721908947

>>721908377
Hahahaha
Water
Rifle
5 ounces of weed..
And a pot.
I got this.

>>721936385
> trying to impress anyone with your tool knowledge is fucking futile when you're saying you wouldn't be able to saw this shit

I like how you left that last part out, or didn't you get it?
>Again a cherry picked image.
As stated in my fucking post, what's wrong with you?

>Even with all that aside it is still too thick to cut with a saw.
>Normal people would pick the tree that best fit their needs with minimal effort required
>Normal people

We've already been over the rest of your shit, what do you even want?

>>721936492
Ofc you can, I'm just questioning this retard's methods

>>721937865
Hahahahahahahahah
KYS

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