Wicca/Pegan thread I want to learn more about this religion

Stupid religion like any other religion.

Celtic Pagan here. What would you like to know?

>>721736912
Kys

Its considered evil because Christians/Catholics deem it so. Otherwise its not, just like occult.

>>721737027
OP Here

Everything there is to know about it. Perhaps you can recommend some books?

My problem is I cannot wrap my head around religion since I'm very the 'Can't see, can't believe type of guy' but this Pegan religion has caught my attention. It is an exciting religion both practical and spiritually.

It'll be wrong for me to say this but I want to be convinced why this is the way to go

>>721736912
Don't be a faggot. Join a gang, sell drugs fuck bitches.

No God exists

>>721736912
Imaginative is the key world because most of it is made up bullshit and is just as stupid and fake as any other religion

>>721737027
Is there a difference between pegan and wiccan?

>>721737492
Don't forget to pray

>>721737279
google com/search?q=crowley+filetype%3Apdf+blavatsky+magick&oq=crowley+filetype%3Apdf+blavatsky+magick&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=filetype:pdf+paganism
>>721736912

>Pegan
google com/search?q=crowley+filetype%3Apdf+blavatsky+magick&oq=crowley+filetype%3Apdf+blavatsky+magick&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=filetype:pdf+paganism

Well its a pretty flexible religion and there are many different paths and generally we are quite accepting. Personally I dont go in for the Magik thing. to me its more about respecting our world and the values it instills. To me spells are more like prayers. Its a verbalization of your needs and desires and ritual can be comforting. You should check your local area and see if there is a teaching coven near by. http://www.witchvox.com/xgroups.html is good for finding like minded people.

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>>721736994
It's not considered evil, it's considered pure faggotry.
You could
A. Actually study the occult.
B. Get together with the gurls and talk about that new episode of american horror story, which you watch because you're different from all the other girls and "normal people scare me xD double tap if you agree" while drawing pentacles on each other's English lit 2's textbooks while scribbling "SMIB" like some kind of fag version of a freemason.

>>721736912
back in high school, this was the religion of angsty goth edgelords. i've never met a grown adult wiccan/pagan.

it's only evil because christfags don't like it. otherwise its probably harmless.

>>721737764
I reside in a very small town, everyone Christians. And I'm not kidding, everyone is

>>721738007
if you think everyone in your town is insufferable now, wait until they find out you're different

>>721737834
True

Christians did dig a massive hole in every religion though

>>721738094
all religions are cancer.

Wicca/paganism is like an irregularly sized mole on your skin. It's probably cancer, but its low on the priority list.

Islam and Christianity are like lung cancer and pancreatic cancer by comparison.

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>>721737698

>>721738084
I once was open about it to my mom.

She freaked out and cried and informed the priest that I was becoming satanist.

I'm 27 btw.

>>721738217
Religion really is an epidemic.

We need to start a religion that bashes against religion.

Oh wait. Those are all other religions

>>721736912
OP 10/10 Fluff Bunny confirmed.
No one is really Wiccan/Pagan. Stop lying to yourself

>>721738314
so much for unconditional love.

i understand her confusion. wicca/paganism and satanism are both high school edgelord faggot religions. that may be why she's confused.

not sure why she had to cry about it and bother your local child abuser. could have just called you a faggot and gone on with her day.

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>>721737027
how much of what you know about your spirituality is historical? By that i mean how much of what you believe is what people would have believed like 1500 years ago? is it even the same religion(ik it was wuite regional)?

>>721738386
or just not bother with any of it at all.

>>721738565
I know right.

The big problem is, we are entitled to believe in whatever we want without having others to crush us for it.
Not being able to have that freedom makes me feel like I live in a prison cell.

>>721738589
Most Pegans still practice the ways the people executed the religion in the middle ages. According to history of the religion, I suppose. But what do I know, I'm just a bird

>>721738648
so fuck off and move on with your life

if your mother can't accept you being an edgelord without calling up a pedophile in robes and crying about it, it sounds like her problem.

she'll grow up, or she won't

in the mean time, find some other edgy goth girls to fuck. they're usually carrying all sorts of self esteem problems and are an easy bang.

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>>721738648
stop being a pussy and stand up for your beliefs. even if youre a faggot, you faggot.

>>721736994
Its an insult to religion to call it one.

>>721738861
Thanks for the advice man.

>>721738943
I will stand up big and tall, also nailed to a cross with some bitch who is about to set me on fire.

Not as easy man

>>721738861
>>721738861
where are you from? i ask coz i live in new zealand and im pretty sure there are 0 pagans ova here

>>721739102
Maybe not pegans but very similar believes. You guys have mostly forest monkeys and fatasses

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>>721739044
pussy

>>721739162
Beliefs* (Belief systems)

>>721739044
Massive pussy

>>721738969
Religion is an insult to science

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>>721739420
Oh god please don't pull the Science card

>>721738845
>most pegans

As someone interested and well read into comparative religion and 19th century folklore I can tell that you are talking utter bullshit lies.
A pagan remnant in northern germany for example was to hang the cut out vagina and womb of a butchered sow on a tree for the crows as this would please the "wold/wod " (probably wodan.) Who would give back in some way, or to leave the last patch of a field standing in order to make an animal figure from it/leave it as such to allow the cornspirit to have a house.

Wiccan urbanite fags who prance around fires while drumming and hookimg up with each other over discussing how their chakras are one with nature and the alleged pagan symbolism on their vegan starbucks drink logo have jackshit to do with the beliefs and rites of medieval and victorian times which were closely interwoven in the backwoods hillybilly rural, hard and conservative lifestyle of people whose world wasnt bigger then their valley.

>>721739420
It doesnt has to be hostile to science as it usually finds a gap or blanc space to insert itself into and science alone does not make the people happy or provides morals some favela dweller is willing to accept.

>>721739697
Jesus Christ. You people pop out everywhere.

Thanks for the information though

>>721739814
I read your sentence like 20 times and still have no fucking clue what you said m8

>>721739697
OP here.

Thanks that is some useful information.

ALL RELIGIONS ARE GAY!

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>>721739366
Christians are truly aggressive towards people who protest their religion. I've witnessed it and undergone the pain myself. Christians are real assholes

OP believe in what you want if it feels right for you

>>721740323
Overrated show

>>721739941
What I am saying is that some kinds of dogmatic people of faith (muhammed split the moon! Have "Science" as a proof!) Indeed "insult" science by twisting it for their bullshit or deliberatly misunderstanding it but there are just as many if not more religious people whose claims or beliefs simply fill in the void where science hasnt made much progress yet. We cant scientifically disprove the idea of a sentient thing kicking of the big bang, or a parallel dimension where gods and demons life interacting with ours in a very inticrate way so the things which cannot be proven or disproven are the rightful claim of both our imagination and also faith.

Also the post I replied to gave radiated a dismissive vibe towards "nonscientific" stuff like believing in an absolute source of morality an afterlife or deities judging your actions. In the end such beliefs often have a value and are not just made up for the heck of it but part of a sociological construct that leads to many people acting much nicer then they normally would.

Or in easier words, science doesnt prevent you from getting shanked in an indian slum because the robber calculated the odds of getting catched but religion might do so as the robber just takes your wallet and not your life because he was raised to believe that basic compassion has a higher value sanctified by a greater authority then society(god).

Try reading the Kybalion and see if it resonates with you.

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I am Mexican, and in the northern-center region of the country, there are a native group that still exists and are preserved, called the Huicholes, which venerate the Peyote in a spiritual way, and they have a philosophic view similar to Taoism, where there are basically two opposed cosmic forces in this world, and the most important thing is trying to find a balance of them both. They also have rituals where they interact with the primal ancestor spirits of fire, deer, and other elements of the natural world, which was really common in North American indigenous folk.

Trying peyote in the desert was the best spiritual experience I've had and it really helped me find the balance in my life and really helped me understand the transition of realms. I've tried other hallucinogens too.

When I was little, I've always had this feeling that some spirit was stalking me, and it was really noticeable when I was left alone, especially when I was 3 - 5 years old. All these flashbacks recently came to me, because somehow I managed to block them, but It came to a point where I couldn't move at all when I felt the presence, I was completely petrified and I couldn't even raise my voice or scream. Then one of my favorite uncles passed away and I felt his presence the night he died, and the presence stopped.

I even have something a condition, that I never could explain it myself, called a "witch's streak" which is basically a single white streak of hair in the forehead, kinda like the one Sweeney Todd has. I got it from my mother. I always thought that I was different in terms of the connection of the other realm,

when I was living in Montreal and sharing experiences with different cultures, there was this place of relaxation and peace where I always found myself in the "in-between" if I can so call it, a kind of trance between realms. People considered me a Shaman there and usually wanted me to guide them for their psychedelic trips.

Pic related, Huichol art.

>>721739993
K
Just my opinion but if you truly want to practize something more archaic then it matters a lot where you life.
If you are american or one of those "worldcitizen" types you either accept that wiccanism is something completely seperate from the beliefs of westpfahlian flax farmers 300 years ago and an own set of loose new age ideas befitting the tastes of young westeners and embrace it without the pretentiousness of building on something older (muh 3000 year old cauldron spell) or you make friends with the indian diaspora in your area and get introduced to the southeast asian equivalent to what would have happened if european paganism survived both christianity and urbanisation. The latter will mean that you have to accept some quiet conservative dogmas though, so dont just do it as a kneejerk reaction to what you didnt like from your christian upbringing.

If you are european, you could spend a lot of time getting into your local folklore and history, its amazing how persistent some cultural patterns and small beliefs which are too subtle to be called out directly managed to survive up to the generation of our grandparents.
Maybe you find something genuinly old which you can believe in and is still somewhat compatible with modern life.
Genius loci come my mind.

>>721736994
So edgy

>>721741827
Interesting.
Read about them and they get currently fucked by a combination of missionarys, alkohol and road projects which open their village communes to globalisation.
As their beliefs are tied to what they plant and the soil they life off, their beliefs might be eradicated the same way the last holdouts of european syncretism died with industrialisation a culture nor dependent on the ecosystem you lived in or the community you grew up with.

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>>721736912
hey fam, practising solitary since 2008.

i stumbled on to it by total chance, and tbh reading about it was kind of like a sense of 'coming home' - the whole overarching concepts aligned with my own deeply held worldviews

an important part of wicca is the worship of nature and of the seasons. there are 8 major festivals which align with the harvest and the cycles of the sun.

i'm a very lax wiccan. i follow it more in a figurative sense because that is what makes sense to me.

in my belief, there is an overarching energy to the universe. there is no name to this and no way that we as humans can comprehend it. it is what pre-dates the big bang and matter and everything.
religions have sought to find a way to explain this, and in doing so worship deities. in wicca we worship a goddess and a god, which provide an embodiment of the greater everything/nothingness of the universe. they are not literal, but are rather archetypal and allow for the telling of stories and appreciation of humans and nature.

it is generally considered evil because it is a (neo)pagan religion. pagan religions pre-date monotheistic religions, and there was a large move to eradicate them, in part by demonising them. a lot of deities from pagan religions were absorbed into christianity as saints, for example.
pagan festivals are also celebrated in christian culture

magic and spellcasting is interesting. it isn't an inherently supernatural paranormal entity. it's about placing yourself into a mindset where you are open to the thing that you want to manifest. for example, if you cast a spell that you want a promotion at work, you are inadvertently placing yourself into a mindset where you will be looking for a confirmation bias. you'll find opportunities and positives which will hopefully fulfill this

cont.

>>721742616

Those problems have always been around, but they don't actually live where the mining and road problems are happening.

They live in the Pacific side, mainly in Nayarit. Every year they walk about 300 miles to Wirikuta so they can do their offerings to their God and consume Peyote.

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>>721736912
>>721742759


i also believe there is a delicate web in the world that links all beings, trees, rocks, stones.

at an anatomical level this is supported by the constant flux of atoms between objects and in quantum physics. the quantum activities of neurons is an expanding field also and worth looking into if you're interested in the airy fairy but like hard science too

i have a tattoo of the triple goddess (the three phases of the moon) on my wrist. i suffer from severe anxiety and i find it really reassuring to touch. it's like any religious symbol i suppose

the other important thing is the pentacle. it's an ancient symbol that is really misunderstood.
in wicca, it represents the perfect human - in perfect balance with the elements (aire, fire, water, earth and spirit)

it is as much an evil symbol as is a crucifix - a large thing in the rise of satanism was the bastardisation of religious symbology, using inverted religious icons. christians remember the pentacle as evil but neglect to admit that an inverted crucifix has the same meaning

pic related it's my tat

>>721742759
>in my belief
>harvestfestivals for people who dont harvest
>nonliteral embodiment of incomprehemsivness

You are basically just playing make belief at home in order to fill the void and know it well dont you?

Open Wiccan here.

For me, Wicca is more of a spiritual than religious practice.

It's about my connection to nature, energy, and life in general. About being at peace with my existence, and my role on this life/world. About connecting with others on a personal level.

Spells to me aren't really about "I'm gonna do some voodoo black magic chanting and shit with some sage and rose oil and get everything I want in life."

They, for me, tend to be more about the positive affirmations that come with verbalizing my desires and aspirations. Believing they can happen etc etc.

The process of burning incense/combining herbs with scents or personal meaning can also be very calming, and seen as a sort of form of relaxation and meditation for ones mind.

>>721737279
cunningham's wicca for the solitary practitioner was the first book i read and it's fantastic. an excellent introduction that covers the basics really well

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>>721743199
you just described practicing yoga, it's not as simple as that

it's about the connection with the other realm, the great wave of consciousness with the help of hallucinogens

>>721739102
defect to aus there's a huge community :D

>>721743107
>quantum physics=magic shit I cant explain but sounds like an authority
>airy fairy
>look at muh brandtatoo
>aristotels 4 element pseudoscience but also quantum physics

>>721743199
What is the difference between spirituality and religion?

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>>721739697
>As someone interested and well read into comparative religion and 19th century folklore

pic related it's you

>>721743107
Tits or gtfo

>>721743445
really mate? you seem angry.
also you can't spell.

>>721743445
not the same guy, but for me, spirituality is knowing that spirit exist and that we are bound to this earth merely by our material flesh and when we die it returns to the cosmic energy

religion uses this idea to control the population, for they have the same basics but they promote separation and intolerance

all religions are based on the premise that there exists a "humanoid" god, which we were made in its shape, which is extremely arrogant for human kind, and this premise is simply wrong

>>721743546
You cuck. Leave the poor retard alone.

>>721743117

1. religions are highly subjects. wicca isn't strictly doctrine-based, most people celebrate their own interpretations. it might surprise you that this happens in most mainstream religions too.
2. if you eat food and live on a planet you benefit from the harvest. you're an idiot if you don't realise that. it's about respecting nature
3. wat.


it's called a bricolage smacktard.

no idea why you're all so butthurt. you sound like a fucking catholic. i'm just trying to answer anon's questions.

>>721743107
Tits, you sea-cow.

>>721743781
lol

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>>721743107
I also have tattoos on my wrists.

One represents the simplicity of energy, a sine wave. How energy travels in the void.

The other represents the opening of perception to the spirit realm, the in-between. A representation of the third eye.

Holding protection tokens, a Chichén Itzá sculpture made of obsidian and a Peyote.

Which represents my two favorite cultures in Mesoamerica, the Mayans and the Huicholes. Both venerated the sun and its energy, for the sun is our true God and the only reason we're all alive and evolving.

You can roast me, I don't really care :D

>>721743107
Dammit you manatee, I demand the titty.

>>721743781
>sea-cow
>>721743937
>manatee

kek

>>721743925
Tits or gtfo

>>721743937
>>721743479
>>721743479

you seem to have misunderstood the basic concept of tits or gtfo

also you're the one derailing the topic and trying to get attention because of my gender (:

>>721743990
this tho

>>721743990
I'm a dude. Can't you see my hairy arms? lol

>>721743107
Also, I don't want to be an asshole, but you know the rules.

Be prepared to dance around the May pole nekkid with a bunch of 2's and 3's
With the occasional 6

>>721744068
i have not once even brought up my gender. i could be a really fat dude with epic gynaecomastia for all you know

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>>721736912
>been into it for some time
>cult or religion or whatever
>mfw

>>721736912
Yeah, it's easy, but you have to suck my balls dry first.

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The most important thing to learn about wicca is that the girls are easy as fuck but also hairy as fuck.

>>721744115
Nah, you can't fool us. Those are some perky tits and that's a girl's tank top.

>>721743979
I can tell it is a marine mammal by the propeller scars near the flipper. We must educate the public about these mystical creatures before they leave this earth like so many other floppy-titted beasts through the ages.

>>721742759
>>721743107
>>721743199

OP Here

I appreciate the information. To me it is also all about building a healthy spirit and being connected with nature in particular.
I will read more books on the subject to better help me understand which direction I'm moving into.
Like I said, it truly is a magical place for me (psychologically) and after I started practicing it, it felt like I was home. It is almost as if my being has been improving ever since.

>>721744292
Sssshhhh, OP. We're still waiting for the water cow's tits.

how the fuck is this thread still alive?

so much bullshit and cringe...

>>721736912
You can't even spell Pagan right you colossal retard. Maybe stop dreaming about spells and shit and do some reading first. Like actual reading from books.

>>721744292
that's something that pretty much everyone i know has said - it's a sense of 'coming home'

it's not for everyone but for those of us for whom it works it's wonderful.

best of luck op, i hope your journey is rewarding and brings you lots of joy

feel free to ask anything else :)

>>721744068
Sorry, /b/rah. I just assumed you were a lady because only a bitch would get tattoos like that...

>>721743461
I dont give a fuck but spending a lot of time reading what 20th century academics had to say about the stuff the rurals believed in gives me enough confidence to call out wewuzwitches bullshit when I see it and claims of continuity in general where they dont exist. Just be humble enough to admit that you made up something new instead of lying to give your cobbled together spiritism more depht.

>>721743656

So basically you want to do the exact same religious people do but call it spiriruality because you dont like laws and consequences.
>all religions beliefe in a humanoid god
Its extremely arrogant to make such sweeping generalisations.

>>721744365
And that's not the way to convince her, you virgin.

She's not even fat wtf? Do you really think by insulting her, she magically will say "ohh this guy knows how to make a girl feel special! I'm going to show them my tits!"

I bet they're magnificent tits. But there's just one way to be sure...

>>721744371
Then leave, friend.

>>721744398
Goddammit, sea hag... Your opinion is useless... Unless you can persuade us otherwise... If not tits, sharpie=pooper

>>721744398
Thank you so much :)

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>>721743925
represents tits. something you know nothing of

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Can to please some one help 2 identify the Raptor in this pic please.

>>721743925
Did your grandma tattoo you or something?

>>721744488
The whiteknight strikes again to defend pussy he will never rail.

>>721744452
>I dont give a fuck
yes very convincing. it's not like you get into heated arguments with strangers on the internet

>>721744214
I'm cool with hairy girls. Kinda makes you feel like you're boning a baboon in prehistoric times.

>>721743656
Holy shit the amount of sheer retardation in this post alone.
>all religions are based on the premise that there exists a "humanoid" god
You still have time to make it for 3rd period and stop embarrassing yourself

>>721744389
Well my bad for the mistake you rusty nigga.

>>721744422
Oh, I fell right into that one didn't I.

>>721744452
What? Laws and consequences? It's not a moral thing friend. The spirit is pure cosmic energy, it might filter depending on your actions during life but sure as fuck not in a Heaven/Hell way.
>Its extremely arrogant to make such sweeping generalisations.
It's not a generalization if it's true. Every god (or at least, the majority) has an actual physical form, could be a combination human with animal, but it's still a humanoid form. But in reality, it's more like a core of energy. Like a place in the cosmos where stars are being born, or dying. Like he Mayan's underworld, Shibalba, a dying star.

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Been a pagan for over 14 years. Follow the old Norse traditions.
We see it as a way of keeping the history alive while being in contact with nature/forces long forgotten.

>>721744488
Checked
/b/rah, you are soooo wrong. Open up your 3rd eye. She is obviously using glamour magic to disguise the disgusting visage of the maneating siren that she is. Anyone who knows anything about manatees knows they are masters of glamour magic. Ever hear of a mermaid? Manatee hungry for sailor dick. Fucking new kid.

>>721744609
Ok friend, keep telling her she's fat and demand her tits. Stay virgin lol

>>721744488
they are magnificent i assure you and i appreciate the white knighting despite the fact that it was totally white knighting.


besides, my tits have been already plastered over this place enough.
when it's called for my tits are out like neil patrick harris at mardi gras. but i did not deserve tits or gtfo this time so no tittehs boizz

>>721744805
no one gives a fuck about your disgusting milk bags

>>721744788
call me circe bitch

>>721744782
That looks amazing wish I could gang up with my homos and circle jerk like that

>>721743107
Kim?

>>721744762
>The spirit is pure cosmic energy
do you just put words together

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>>721744701
You don't even understand religion do you? Maybe you're not familiar with the term "humanoid"?
>humanoid: having an appearance or character resembling that of a human.
now get the fuck out and read a fucking book.

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Stop bashing our precious religans

>>721743107
this is all babble. nothing here makes any sense

>>721744805
it's not white knighting bitch, I was luring you to post tits

whatever, just get the fuck out

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I am Wicca.
It's considered evil because it involved a lot of sacrificed back in the day.
No, spells do no exist you singular brain celled pleb.

>>721744805
Typical female entitlement. You don't understand how tits or gtfo works, do you? Tits, or gtfo. Simple as that. They look like floppy ol' manatee tits anyway. Your magic doesn't fool me, feminazi sea sow.

>>721744926
Are those Egyptian catholic satanists?

>>721744897
you don't belong in this thread

>>721744980
uh oh did i see through it? oh shieeeeeet man you were so smart though!

>>721744879
Kek

>>721744980
You get the fuck out you old unsatisfied horny bag
Leave the girls and go fuck your porn vids

>>721745070
how can someone fuck a porn vid

>>721745008
that doesn't even make sense you cuck
see? you don't understand shit.

>>721743773
1.
If religion is a highly subject, wiccaism is a lowly subject I guess..
Personal faith allows for some individual stuff but it is still confined to certain borders ( there aint no polytheist muzzies) and is often derived from the overarching beliefs instead of the rule of cool.
2.
Fine I guess.
3.
>bricolage
>solving a problem by the ressources avaible
You didnt solve shit but used conflicting terminology without any sense to it. No solution came from it but just confusion at what the fuck you threw together there

>>721744981
Uhm I disagree tard.

Affirmation manifestation = Spells

>>721745044
Listen to the men and just go. No one wants to see your calloused, grey manatee titties anyway, Kim.

>>721745123
You don't seem to understand my point either you humorless cuntnigger

dumbest thread i've seen on /b all night

>>721745044
what? i was just stating the obvious, you aren't really fat

what do i know, maybe you are.

still, tits or gtfo

>>721739102
I'm a new Zealand pagan .there is actually a pagan priest here that presided over the first officially recognised pagan wedding in Norway in 1000 years. He doesn't like me though because I use the swastika rune and he is a lefty shill lol

>>721744996
>sea sow
ahahahahahahah

>>721745176
because your point is retarded

>>721745227
Be a lot better if that manatee would show some nip, amiright?

What the fuck this thread is so fucking confusing.

"Hey kids, all enter the hall for nonsensical bullshit and you'll all get a lolipop for contributing"

>>721745124
i think you don't understand the terminology if you think they're conflicting.
need a dictionary?

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fuck this thread

>>721745241
LOLOLOLO

>>721745293
rollin

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if you follow G-ddess Kaisa Hanna and you serve her she might grant you your wishes

>>721745334
Let's show the bitch some firepower, in the form of dubs.

>>721744981
Wicca was never an old religion it was made up in the 1900s by some cult nutcase that wanted some free love from the hippy girls. He didn't even get Manson style with it the fukn bitch.

Rollin for manatee titties!

>>721745338
Wow. Instant boner

Wish granted

>>721745338
>
is that a guy?

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>>721736912
Asatru here
>Don't practice magick unless you absolutely can't accomplish your goal on your own.
>Praise and recognize the Gods, don't be one of those faggots that worships nature and the earth. Nobody likes those bitches
>Be the best you can in life to try to impress the Gods.
>Scrying and divination are okay
>Don't even look at the Wiccans, they are disgusting and most of the don't shower or wear 50 pounds of make up
>Fuck with literally any other woman, I dated catholics for years until I finally met my Santerian hispanic qt 3.14
>Also science is real, the old stories about the Gods are mostly fabrications, we created the Gods not the other way around, the Gods are simply a personifications of a people's culture
>This doesn't make them not real because just like culture it's all in your head. I understand that this part is hard to understand. Just try taking acid or some shit and think about it for a while.

>>721745401
Reroll!

>>721744981
Hahaha yea wiccans never sacrificed anything except the respect of their parents

>>721745434
>the gods

mkay pumpkin

>>721745450
Holy fuck that was too funny. You've been acknowledged

>>721745338
ugly wishes

>>721745450
Retard alert

>>721745434
lol ur so badass

>>721744762
>pure cosmic enurgshi
You dont actually know what you are talking about dont you?
Transdimensional Godheadlove confirms my feelings!
Ive read de natura deorum, even the romans who portrayed their gods very human got into arguments about how they would actually be like.
The idea of a nonhumanoid god is as old as dirt.

>>721745533
Nice dubs. If trips, op dies in a housefire.

>>721745434
Which Gods?

>>721745434
"we created the gods"
"but that doesn't mean they're not real"
"um, instead of looking for logic, take drugs"
k

>>721745575
Reroll, quads it's tonight.

>>721745562
Let's all praise dirt then

>>721745529
Atheism is the main cause of degeneracy in modern Western liberal democracies

>>721745598
Reroll, marking quints as 200 years of misery on some sort of horrible experimental medical machine.

can anyone offer me scientific empirical evidence of "spells" or "magic"?

>>721745557
Your a wiccan with parents that don't respect you right? Have fun hiding those cats under the house and cutting your feet while your still not in an institution edgy teen

>>721745631
OK, my assessment is over, op. You are plenty magical already. Though, I would like to point out, your defenses could be penetrated, were one to request the aid of great powers such as Kek.

>>721745579
witch gods

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>>721745410
amen
>>721745421
don't disrespect g-ddess
>>721745541
you can wish something ugly. doesn't matter

>>721745279
>No U!
Tell me more about those quantum elements girl.

>>721745562
let me get this straight, you don't believe that the soul, is energy?

Just want to understand your retardation on the premise that you may not know what you're talking about.

>>721745616
>assuming i'm atheist

>>721745672
Everything is somehow evident and clarified through science. Waiting for that person to show us.

>>721745703
wtf is that thing?

>>721745579
For me personally? The white ones of course, and not those shitty faggoty southern euro Gods. The proper norse Gods and a few from Brittania.
I don't deny the existence of other cultures Gods. Their Gods just aren't my Gods.

>>721745707
>let me get this straight, you don't believe that the soul, is energy?
let me get this straight... you still believe in souls? are you 8?

Holy fuck... Manatee tits are in their armpits... They truly are magical creatures.

>>721745585
Well, you don't have to take drugs to figure it out. Personally I don't take drugs because I'm not a degenerate atheist.

>>721745707
What makes energy cosmic?

>>721738239
TopKek you fucking said before me

>>721745791
kek

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>>721745741

>>721745734
That's even worse. You worship a middle eastern goat fucking God.

>>721736912
I find it amusing Wiccans are unaware of numerology. Why is that? They're fat slobbish Women's Studies christfucks who can't into math can't into logic?

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>>721736912
Wicca: Made up in the 1950's by a guy that liked talking women into taking off their clothes. Mainly stuff from the Freemasons (i.e., like the Knights of Columbus but more cringeworthy and *less* supernatural) mixed with stuff he read in the pulps. Makes scientology look reasonable.
Pagan: You mean 'contemporary pagan' or 'shit made up by high schoolers after reading Thor comic books'. Total bullshit (like Wicca) just more modern.

THIS THREAD IS RIDICULOUS

Should be about OP's questions on the subject

Now only a bar fight between lonetards

>>721737027
How tough is it to not giggle when you tell people you're a "Celtic pagan"?

is anyone in this thread serious, or are people just trolling each other at this point. . no one actually believes this shit.... right?

>>721736912
Norse Pagan here. I think the old tales and gods were possibly real when they were first told and passed down ,but most likely early kings and their family's and/or their way of explaining the world around them. I have been fluent in the runes for decades and have never used them in a "spell" but if the day of the rope comes while I am alive there will be many Christians/Jews/Muslims sacrificed to the old gods just in case. Also just because I hate the Jewish religions haha hail Odin hail Thor ,bring it on now ,race war

>>721745749
The only real "Gods" that were close to being non-mythological, where the extra dimensional beings Kukulkan, Quetzalcoatl and Shenlong. The three of them visited those civilization at the same time, without them even knowing about each other. Represented as a "serpent with wings" or a dragon, and had the pyramids mainly as a location for their descent. So all three of them were probably the same being.

And I'm not talking bullshit, there are codecs about it, not to mention the pyramids as proof. Look it up.

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>>721745793
only drug you need is Kaisa Hanna
>>721745816
Kaisa Hanna's energy is cosmic

>>721745789
I see, now I understand.
That is the whole point of this thread, newfriend.

Just get out.

>>721745816
>Asatru guy here
Nothing, Wiccans like to use buzzwords that make them sound like they know what they're talking about when in fact their just one shit tier away from being jews

>>721745939
the fuck did i just read

>>721745894
personally i'm eating popcorn and this is all pretty great

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>>721745932
Very serious. Manatees are on the verge of extinction due to sexual predation. Read a book, nigger.

>>721745949
final fantasy fan here

>>721745889
This

>>721745939
Thor and Odin

Topkek

>>721745816
Belonging.. to the cosmos? Outer s

You do know that there exist energy outside this earth, don't you?

Holy shit you fuckers just like to look really deep into meanings don't you? It's not as hard as you think.

>>721745434
>The gods are real in my Mind

Dont be such a fucking cuck and see them as actual beings that you invite to notice you under the name and rite you prepared and was prepared for them from priour generations.

Christians have the balls to believe in angels and have plenty of theology to explain them a bit better.
Take from that if you must but dont go the "My choice to believe something makes it real!" Route as this obviously cant work out ina world were different people chose ro believe conflicting things.
Except of course you believe in democratic meme magic, in that case you burn in christo-islamic hell as they are the majority to make it real in their minds.

>>721746040
they're so cute though

>>721745970
Those toes look like cola cans

>>721736912
Use google, fuckwit.

>>721745939
Good to see I'm not alone in this thread.

>>721745862
What? Holy shit just stop. I was raised a Catholic.

>>721746103
>
kek

how has this thread got some much attention? magic or what ever is not a real thing.

>>721745749
Guess why I know that you are a newworlder.

>>721746041
I've never played Final Fantasy in my life.

You're just blinded by whatever the fuck you believe is right. But there are actual proof in this world.

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Worship your new gods... Before their treasure vanishes from our world.

>>721746181
It is very real my fellow human

>>721746199
if you can't explain it, you don't know it well enough. what's the proof hotshot

>>721746199
*GASPS* You never played Final Fantasy????

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>>721746181
Some sea cow refused tits or gtfo. Did you know manatees have massive, public orgies?

>>721745939
whats this "day of the rope"?

>>721746088
I do, do that. I'm sorry that your God needs to reside in a alternative dimension or shit. Literally the world around you is perceived through your brain. If a God did exist why would it live anywhere but within us? Not to mention the fact that your after life is nothing but a really good DMT trip.

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>>721746129
hey catholic scum
im wiccan and my so is agnostic but we were both raised catholic. it's weird how much of an impact it has had culturally on both of us without either of us realising

just when you think you're out, catholicism pulls you back in

>>721746071
Stars work by thermonuclear processes which is pretty much energy. So yes there is energy outside of our earthball, but it usually can be categorized and observed. "cosmic" it is not.

I'm so glad I went to college. you are all colossal faggots.

anyone an adult here?

>>721746309
Something to do with a lot of dicks, I dunno mate

>>721746206
WORSHIP THE MANATEE


THE MANATEE IS YOUR GOD NOW

>>721746129
Why is it that all catholics know nothing about their religion? Mate Jesus was a goat fucker from the middle east that had some David Blaine skills to help him put food on the table.

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>>721746393
I am, good sir. I'm also a manatee specialist. Ama

>>721746362
>just when you think you're out, catholicism pulls you back in
.... what the fuck are you talking about?

>>721746393
>>721746389

medico lol :)

>>721746417
Yeah this guy pretty much nailed it.

>>721746190
Because I'm in a relationship with a hispanic Santerian?

>>721746417
In other words, Jesus was your typical con-artist

>>721746481
will i go to heaven if i suk a manatees dick?

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>>721746414
Welcome to the inner folds of the manatee, my brotheren. All worship!

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This is true religion my gay fwends

>>721746362
You're nothing but a bitter raging excommunicated Catholic that wants to disappointed mommy and daddy in the best way you can.

>>721746545
No, your name is definitely not written in the book of life.

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>>721746262
Did you even read my original post you retard? Those 3 beings had the same characteristics, visited those civilizations around the same time, without them knowing about each other, and provided changes in the weather. Also had the pyramids (you do acknowledge the existence of the pyramids right?) as some sort of pin point location for their descendant, every solstice of the year.

I mean, these are facts. You can just google them I'm not going to post links.

>>721746594
why don't you look at what you wrote a re-read it back to yourself

>>721746578
ALL GLORY TO THE MANATEE

>>721744782
I like the asatru rituals for the summer and winter solstices. Hanging around a fire with a bunch of my friends has always been a good time for me, so having two set dates in the summer and the winter is nice.

>>721746545
Yes, brother. Yes, brother! Praise Manatee!

>>721746309
Day of the rope is the day old whitey gets sick of working to feed the scum that leech and rape and goes into the streets and starts clearing the world of the scum that are clogging it up. Semi mythological

HOW CAN RELIGION BE REAL IF OUR EYES AREN'T REAL

>>721746362
I don't mind. I'm actually glad being raised a Catholic than any other religion.

But yeah, I follow more Taoism.

>>721746594
nah i'm long since out of the broom cupboard and my parents aren't remotely religious, just my extended family. went to a catholic primary before moving to non-denominational.

>>721746541
Yes, it's basically the equivalent of Vikings coming home telling tales of dragons to their kids and wife's to explain why they didn't come back with food and riches.

>>721746317
Decartes-tier stuff is too lofty for me and reducing everything around you to being a reflection of your brain seems offputting. We cant control reality as much as we liked after all and there being many factions at war with each other in your brain to create a flawed world for you to enjoy and suffer in is not only funky but would devalue all people who are not you as theoretically nonexisting products of a foreign imagination which prods you through this lifetrip. This kind of thinking is mostly just a philosophical exercise.

I'm pretty fucking sure everyone on this thread is high

>>721746627
so changes in the weather and a landmark of where they landed is proof of 3 final fantasy summons coming down from the sky?

>>721746658
Fire,mead and hot pagan chicks without christian moral shame is a winning combination!

>>721746630
My dude I was raised Asatru. The only contact I've had with the Catholic Church is the 5 Catholic girls I've fucked in my days

>>721746685
this

>>721746386
The Mayans pinpointed a spot in the sky, one which was an actual dying star, and they turned into their Underworld, Shibalba.

Out of the healthy points in the sky, how did they find one that was dying? They believed that when one died, their soul traveled to that dying star to be reborn.

The film The Fountain is based on this, great movie.

>>721746758
This sounds like the religious course for me! Where do I sign up? Do I need to first suck Odin's dick?

>>721746666
satanic quads manatee confirmed

>>721746667
thats never going to happen. if it were it would of happen by now.

>>721746417
I said I was raised as one. Stop believing that crap when I was 7.

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>>721746666
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis manatee.

i think there are no wiccafags left to defend it

>>721746736
Again, I haven't played Final Fantasy and I assume there are similar beings in that game.

You do understand that a lot of forms of entertainment, such as video games and film, are based on actual proven veridical events and/or beings?

Silence for once. Okay we continue with the Wicca subject?

>>721746866
So you're a degenerate atheist

>>721746881
That's because it's indefensible

>>721746809
In most kindred homosexuality is verboten but you might find some watered down old hippies that will let you suck dick and worship Odin at the same time, but its obviously not for you ,what with the hot pagan girls and all but I guess more for me. Your more likely to find a gardener/carpenter named Jesus that will let you suck their dick

>>721746627
Another anon here.
You know, people who actually want other people to learn, broadcast citations in the hope that someone takes them up on it and read about what they are trying to teach.
I find the connection you're talking about interesting, but you haven't even shared a single link to start my research.

>>721746809
No. We now worship the manatee.

>>721746696
sorry i didn't mean it to be anti-catholic!
my comment was supposed to be factitious

i'm glad i got to have that influence early in life - the focus on social service and stuff is really positive. plus the whole ritual of catholic services are actually very reminiscent of pagan celebrations - swinging incense over the congregation, flicking water, candles, the transubstantiation of the eucharist etc

i feel like it influences the development of my own beliefs. i don't hold any negativity towards it as a religion (hey, the bulk of all the nastiness happened in the 70s! the issue these days is more to do with historic cover-up)

>>721746866
what made you lose your faith? did you do any research on your religion?

>>721746725
well i am drunk and also on valium so that's a yes from me

>>721746976
Yes. So, as I said, manatee.

>>721746967
I guess independance day and alien moves are based on "proven" evidence too huh?

>>721746967
ONCE AND FOR ALL, FINAL FANTASY IS NOT REAL

>>721736912
Religion summed up:
Skip to 1:00 for tldr;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0z-TppUC48

>>721746992
Personally for me I'm okay with the faggots as long as they don't try to fuck me or bend over backwards in a attempt to justify their gayness by pointing out shit that happened in ancient myths about the Gods that have been watered down to the point we're the only real truth about them was that there are Gods

>>721747012
not factitious, facetious, sorry autocorrect

>>721747103
You do know that apprenticeship and learning in general is basically bluemagic and proves its existance!?
Jeeeez read a book lol xD11>>721747103

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>>721747053
You don't need drugs to get high, /b/rah. I'm high on manatee. Every heard of it? See, manatee died for your sins. Doesn't that make you feel good?

>>721747076
ALL HAIL THE MAJESTIC MANATEE

>>721746822
Well I never said the whites win but if an event happened which made as many proud whites take to the streets as blacks do when dequan gets shot for robbing a liquor store shit might start rolling. Also most nukes on earth have White guys controlling the button. One can only hope

>>721736912
Honestly just read any book you think might be interesting on the subject and take what you can from it.About half the books I have ended up being new age psycho babble, but they usually have one tidbit that will resonate. Find your own path and do your own thing at first, there is no one way of doing it when it comes to pagan beliefs and worship, I think this is what throws off most people. It's also not a mutually exclusive belief structure, you can worship Christ and Honor him through pagan practises.

>>721747188

i give myself up to the higher power of manatee! cleanse me oh wet mammally one!
cleanse me of my sins with your blubbery love

>>721745939
You do know that Vikings travelled all over the world and that one of the things they pillaged were men and women of different races. Then they brought them home as slaves, who later on had the chance to gain their freedom and join the community. Basically Vikings ended up being more genetically diverse than other people of that time, because they liked fucking outside their race.

>>721747135
You can't use Christianity as an example because it's one of the most autistic religions in history
> they literally went ape shit because OG David Blaine walked on water

>>721747222
>About half the books I have ended up being new age psycho babble, but they usually have one tidbit that will resonate.
what does that say about what resonates...

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>>721747208
PRAISE MANATEE! OH, GENTLE AND FORGIVING SEA COW, SHOW MERCY TO THE NONBELIEVERS

>>721736912
Odin promised an en to ice giants. I don't see any around. Is that not proof enough? :-)

>>721747146
>the only real truth about them was that there are Gods
how is that in any way a truth?

>>721747274
Autistic or not the catholic branch of christanity alone has over 1 billion members.

>>721747322
ba dum, tiss...

>>721747327
how did anything come in to existence?

>>721747001
What the fuck do you want me to cite? Chinese hieroglyphics or Mayan codex? It's hard to even find them in English, because the Mayan culture was lost, most of them are in Spanish.

But ok, let's see.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mistic/religionsplanetearth51.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenlong

If you're genuinely interested, you would look it up more as I have with any other opinion I take in skepticism.

>>721746978
Taoist, with several other philosophies intertwined.

>>721747146
Yea the old Loki turning himself into a mare to seduce a giants stallion tale isn't a glowing endorsement that the old Norse advocated homosexuality in my book

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>>721747271
Your sins are forgiven, my brother. Blessed be the manatee.

>>721747082

Holy shit you're a retard.

>>721747397
we don't know. and neither do you.

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>>721743479
>>721743781
>>721743937

Children, settle down and let the adults talk

>>721747453
something had to create it. you can't deny that

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>>721747397

This thread is literally the same as a bunch of kids fighting over what flavor yogurt is the best... Banana is though

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>>721747432
i am healed

ALL PRAISE THE MANATEE!
PRECIOUS DEITY OF THE SEA
THOUGH YOUR FOLLOWERS BE BUT WEE
TEMPLES SHALL BE BUILT TO THEE

>>721747478
Is that you, oh manatee? Praise thee, manatee! Blessed be!

>>721747566
and here you are posting in it. feel good about your self?

>>721747508
OUR INTELLECT DOES NOT MATCH WHAT IS BEYOND SPACE AND TIME.

>>721747103
I wouldn't know, like I said a fucking thousands times before, I've never fucking played it you bigot scum. So what the fuck is your point? I don't know their characters nor do I care. My point was not based on that game.

>>721747020
Didn't lose faith, after trying peyote and hallucinogens, and actually had a glimpse of the the spiritual realm, I understood how things worked and I'm living my life giving in order to receive.

That's why this thread got my attention, but then it started flooding with angsty kids who do not understand about the subject.

Also what the fuck with the catpcha, have to fill like 5 different shit.

>>721747272
Nowhere in the Edda's and sagas does it reflect that they took non white slaves. The only time they fought non whites ,the moors and american Indians they lost due to numerical inferiority so where is your information from?

the most sane sounding person in this thread is the manatee guy

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>>721747405
Well some studies of said Hieroglyphics and Mayan codex would've been cool. But the links you've provided looks like a good start for me. Thanks anon.

>>721747566
no it's not you cuck, strawberry is god tier

>>721747651
His manatee collection is massive. I wonder if religious reasons are the only thing he uses it for

you all are a bunch of colossal faggots. good day

>>721747729
No Chocolate is you cuntrag

>>721747638
hope you will reconsider release because i think that all the bible prophecies are coming to a head. next on the list are RFID chips being forced in to our hands/head and one world government. feel free to bash me but im just trying to save a few people.

>>721747710
No problem, the Mayans were truely a fascinating culture.

If you ever have a chance, go visit Chichen Itzá, you would really feel the energy of the place and they'll explain their beliefs firsthandedly.

>>721747797
>colossal

Somebody learned a big word today

>>721747566


Vanilla, you cancerfag

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>>721747579
PRAISE, OH PRAISE UNTO THEE, MANATEE. WE WILL WALK THIS EARTH TO SPREAD YOUR GLORY. WE MUST TELL ALL OF THE MANATEE. SAVE THE SOULS OF THE WICKED. THE MANATEE PASSIVELY DEMANDS IT. BRING THEM BACK TO THE HERD!

>>721747508

Prove it

>>721747898
ok. here we are. next question?

>>721747842
Caramel you fecesfag

>>721747651
Thank you. Blessed be the manatee

>>721747644
I remember some mentions of it from my history class, where other cultures mentioned the vikings and told about the Vikings behavior seen from their first hand accounts with them.
One Khalif even hired a bunch of Viking to protect him until he died a natural death, on the promise of letting them pillage all the values they could and enslave as many people they wanted to on the day of his death. On the promise that they would go home after that.

>>721747933
How long is this thread still going to fucking exist?

>>721747834
only thing i learned today was that manatee dick suckers are less obnoxious that wiccans and pagans

>>721747933

Prove that something created it, you uneducated cretinous nonce

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>>721747732
;)

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Some distractions for the butthurt homos

>>721748000
you cant just create matter out of nothing dumb ass. it couldn't have possibly always excised

>>721747817
I've wanted so visit Middle and South America for a while now, I'd definitely go see it if I got the chance.
I've been to a bunch of places in Northern America though, and seen many old villages and holy sites, shit was cool.

>>721747970
And those morally impaired of the topic, right?

>>721748087
SO the answer is Matter. We should all praise Matter

>>721748147
you can't really be this stupid.

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>>721747970

>>721747816
>tinfoil intensifies

I'm surprised the Sciguys haven't populated this thread yet.

>>721748147
Goddammit, you are stupid. We all praise manatee.

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>>721748264
Eat my asshole!

ALL PRAISE MATTER

Anyone have more manatee pics? For religious purposes only.

>>721748318
Dude, you're stupid. Manatee made matter, duh derpa derr dooo

>>721748318
trying to look smart is just making you look like a retard. YES matter changes its state but matter cant be created or destroyed.

>>721748260
Paganism doesn't seem as intimidating as christianity and islam. The minority that identify as pagan are seen as old hippies who threaten no one in most peoples minds. To use an analogy another anon used earlier in thread, paganism is seen as a minor suspect mole compared to the cancers of Christianity and Islam.
The Sciguys would probably go for what they perceive as the bigger threat to scientific progress.

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>>721748478

>>721748333
>>721748040
>>721747854

>>>721748421

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>>721748537
For science

>>721748566
Omg I love you

>>721748602
>drrrrr what is google?