>>721530300 They will try to impeach, they will fail, he will continue to destroy the evil that you and your kind have built, and they will kill him.
Screencap, remember, save. They don't care about you, and it isn't just the left, the establishment is two sides of the same fucked up exploitative coin, and neither wing gives a fuck about you, your family, or your country. JFK and possibly Reagan were the last ones to care, one was killed, there was an attempt on the other.
>>721531235 The problem is that he's not bettering america he's attempting to destroy what the Founding Fathers built, there's a reason we have a powerful Federal Government you fucking idiot, (little secret here) it was always that way.
1. Secret service is top tier 2. Most individuals value their own lives 3. Perimeter cordoned off for presidential venues is larger than you think 4. Training has gotten damn good, I'm a scrub and I can spot people concealed carrying a mile away. 5. You are not as good a shot as Call of Duty has led you to believe, there's a lot to it but I'm not qualified to talk down to anyone about it as I'm an above average marksman, at the very best, someone else can opine on that if they wish
>>721531667 >chastising him for saying that amidst Soros-backed vote counting machines being embroiled in fraud allegations >he wins >start riots and run literal 24/7 media hitjobs on him... well actually just continue the hits you've been running
>>721531680 >which is all he's done Nigga it's been like 2 weeks, the fuck you expect?
Republicans will try to use and lose him, but that didn't work well when they said he couldn't get the nomination, didn't work when they said he wouldn't/couldn't run, couldn't beat hillary (98% odds against), they said he wouldn't build the wall, they said he wouldn't break TPP, they said the Falcons had a 98% chance of winning...
>>721531939 It's funny you call me a shill, because nothing I said was shilling for anyone. Also, nice bit of hypocrisy, by the way. Some people aren't the type that can be won over by someone repeating slogans and saying that their chosen candidate is doing was best suits America. >tl;dr stop shilling
>>721528905 In 4 years this could be changed,It's a bit hard but could be done.
First they have to kick the aristocracy out of their party, then stop with all the obviously racist with a sugar coat bullshit that the aristocracy secretly implanted on their party, and finally learn how to have a smart candidate instead of a corrupt piece of shit that thinks that anything can be solved with war.
>>721532160 Repeating slogans is a tool to ensnare the stupid. It's far more common among the left, but the right damn sure uses it, and so did/does/will Trump. Doesn't discredit his presidency in the slightest.
>>721532228 Prove it. I'll concede that the podesta hack was likely Russian in origin looking at what professional apolitical pentesters and IT people said about it, implying it was Russian government or any kind of coordinated attack? Horseshit. Pedosta literally used "p4ssw0rd" as his password, and got phished, the only indication it's Russian was the particular phishing methodology and the domains he put his credentials into. Other DNC emails weren't hacked, they were leaked from within. Your claim is horseshit, just like the WMDs in Iraq.
>>721532630 See that's bollocks. If there is some kind of attack it'll be perpetrated by someone who has already been in the country for a long time anyway. The hold against prior with existing valid visas and travel documents was fucking retarded. All that's going to do is give the extreme groups not fodder for recruiting people. If you can't see that then you're stupid. Put all the "extreme vetting" controls in place you want, but don't stop people who were already legally allowed in because you didn't already think out what the fuck your "extreme vetting" controls would entail.
Well you can in four years and it changes by default in 8.
But not just now.
I do wonder how the college votes would have gone if colleges were based upon industrial production rather than just geological placement. Obviously going with simple popular vote is a bad idea. But it does seem the current lines aren't really reflective of all the states receiving decent attention and oversight.
If anything, United States seems more like collection of countries.
Just some food for thought. Not saying any particular idea is a better one.
>>721532839 You are wrong in that it won't stop things. You are correct in that it pissed off extremists, and may lead to action.
Regardless, the president is entitled to make those calls on who we let into the country, and Muslim countries are high on terror participation - I think it didn't go far enough. Saudis and Pakistan need to be reigned in as well, but oil money, and they weren't on the list that they used, which is *literally* the list of high risk countries put out by Obama.
>>721532988 Everyone played the game of the electoral college. Parties, electors, candidates. Nobody gave a shit to the popular vote, and several people didn't went to vote because their states didn't mattered much.
The result would be wildly different if was by popular vote.
>>721532988 Because the U.S. Is so varied. The needs of its mass population centres don't reflect the needs of its rural centres. In fact, popular vote gives far too much power to the media to sway voters.
For instance, what would a person from New York know about the needs of the food bowl farmers, or even understand the drought affecting people on the west coast? But they command a massive chunk of the popular vote.
>>721533081 Except the population in the cities and in all of rural america is balanced out. >>721533091 I'm aware. i asked why it was a bad idea, not for an explanation of what's obvious to anyone with a working brain.
>>721533209 The rural areas are a lot more land (remember: you used to have to own land to vote, why? Because you have a stake in the fucking country), and generally have more industry and production to population ratio.
I don't wanna live in The United States of Los Angeles and New York, personally.
>>721533431 But if the population between rural areas and Cities is roughly equal where would the disparity be in a vote for PRESIDENT, senate and House of reps would still fucking be there and they are voted in on mob rule.
>>721533011 You ought to give your intelligence services a little more credit. They already track a fuck load of people who would never be let into the country anyway. This course of action by Trump is endangering shared intelligence with other countries. The UK already said if he brings back torture they'll stop sharing intelligence with the US. To my mind he's making the US a target. That means he can justify his actions because, "look, they attacked us like I said".
>>721533813 Tell me please, how would removing the Electoral College make us a Direct Democracy? it wouldn't you fucking tard, to do that we would need to remove the entirety of The Senate and The House, and that will never happen.
>>721533728 The UK is bluffing, how about you have some respect for our intelligence agencies?
This cycle has been repeating since he first gained momentum.
1. Make outrageous sounding claim 2. Let leftists and media shit the bed and be apoplectic for a while, generating hundreds of millions in free coverage 3. Explain reasonable policy, which makes the media, which is dishonest, look even more dishonest than they are, further enraging them, and causing them to knee-jerk over-cover every single thing he does. 4. Maga by uncucking shit.
Literally every step of the way, for more than a year now, everything he's done has been called impossible, and we've been told it won't work, yet at every single turn, it has worked.
>>721534113 So you are an idiot. Removing the EC wold make it so more people would vote, Why? because now suddenly their votes actually matter rather than just being a guideline for some fucking random asshole that was picked by the government.
>>721534257 Literally what? You're invalidating the votes of all the "flyover states" by relying on raw numbers.
Huge cities should not wield disproportionate influence. However, I invite you to try to change it.
Be prepared for a Welfare state, which is not a good thing if you aren't extremely, externally rich (which we are for now, but we will lose the petrodollar/ reserve currency advantage within a few decades, as such that's unsustainable, and inefficient from the get go).
>>721534013 I'm failing to see any evidence of anything that's purportedly impossible having yet been achieved. I myself have called nothing impossible for that matter, but genuinely misguided or just plain stupid yes. That wall? Mexico isn't paying for it. You'll pay for it under the suggested import tax plans. And let's face it, it's still going to be a fence. Note no, it's not impossible to build an actual wall, but it's fiscally irresponsible. It isn't going to solve the alleged problem, and it's a huge waste of money. But hey, if that's going to "make America great again" (bearing in mind America has never actually been that great), then yeah, why not do meaningless shit to placate people you riled up yourself in the first place.
>>721534358 The house... the Senate... the presidency... the rights to salt mining and extraction from liberal tears for at least 4 years... who do you think I am?
>>721534476 Reminder, Mexico has a wall along their southern border and strictly forbids illegal immigration, and are far, far less humane about deportation.
What will the wall not do, exactly?
About Mexico paying for it, yeah, not directly, at least not at first. We'll see how that plays out.
Re: what's impossible that he's done, almost every proposition he's made and his entire candidacy was called impossible by media, pundits, and anons. If you've made no such claim, you aren't responsible for the claim, but they've been made. A lot.
>>721534469 RAW NUMBERS PLACES POPULATION IN CITIES AS EQUAL TO RURAL AREAS! What does this mean anon? IT MEANS THEY BOTH HAVE EQUAL STRENGTH WHEN IT COMES TO A VOTE! how fucking stupid can you be? If both side have equal population they have equal power, At worst it would somewhat devalue the less populous states but their votes haven't ever really mattered anyway.
>>721534476 And how is illegal immigration not an issue, and something nobody cared about before Trump? How is Islamic terrorism something that nobody cared about? How is cuckoldry of the highest degree in trade agreements not something we should care about? How is allowing the rich to not pay taxes and giving the lazy a free ride something we shouldn't be concerned about?
Were you honestly happy 2008-2016? Were you? Is Germany happy about the endless tide of rapefugees? Do you want to become the next Sweden?
What would you have done better? Referencing any recent presidents, actually.
>people, people that should know better, often call us a democracy, we are not, never have been, and aren't intended to be. It's a silly thing that I sincerely cannot explain, but people attach that word to us, when it does not and never has applied
>>721534981 I don't want to get into the sociology of why it happens, but big cities vote *overwhelmingly* left, so things like this can be true, while still giving the popular vote for Shillary.
This is *literally* why we have the electoral college.
>>721535082 the people attaching it were americans themselves. being a federation does not necessarily mean to make up nonsense electoral college there is a difference between local and state politics. no need not to use popular vote for presidency
>>721535082 Yet thats exactly what the SENATE and HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES is for, they are the ones who create the laws, not the President also the reason we have the electoral college According to Thomas Jefferson at least is to prevent someone unqualified from becoming president, Donald Trump is not qualified it failed.
>>721535223 So we should disregard the will of the overwhelming majority of land and industry because inner city welfare vampires will vote for the guy that promises them more free shit? Noooope.
You don't get to impose your will on the entire republic homie. You can totally do that locally though, enjoy your statist shitholes, which you gave every right to have, and continue to make worse.
>>721535298 Hillary was corrupt as fuck, Trump was underqualified. Next time don't stab Bernie in the back and cheat to get your dying crime family grandmother the nomination, and maybe next time you won't have a Trump?
I don't know what to say, you made your bed, lie in it.
>>721535438 trump is just as currupt as hillary was, and you act like I or anybosy else who voted had any part in what the DNC did to get hillary into the Nomination, i certainly didn't >>721535510 It's literally in his writings, look it the fuck up.
>>721535605 We have proof she's corrupt as fuck, nothing on him, I invite you to provide any evidence to the contrary. Also English is clearly not your mother tongue, why are you even discussing American politics?
Also, nice cop out, "I don't have to provide facts, just dismiss you and say look it up", yeah, whatever.
Mob rule isn't an upgrade. EC ain't perfect, but it's better than that and it's what we have. Deal with it.
>>721536029 >>721536083 Wrong. It's even false for the establishment. >>721536038 >Extension of Dunning-Kruger? I don't think so. It's a function of their primary moral value- if you're against them, you just must not care. >And I imagine they encompass a lot of well-meaning ignorant people too. This is also a factor. Progressivism is the default position- if you're too dumb or too ignorant to learn about other politics, you stay there.
>>721535585 >you won't have to worry though because Obama took all my guns away, right?
Veiled threat? If you physically attack the government you and your associates will be summarily gunned down in the street. If you stop paying your taxes you will be put in a cage. If you steal from or harm your betters (Trump voting patriots) you will be beaten and incarcerated by our mercenaries (police) paid for with your tax dollars.
We don't feel threatened because you simply don't threaten us.
>>721536820 The Sturmabteilung was initially created to protect Germans from Communist violence. They're not fascists, they're just the same vermin they were 80 years ago, and they'll meet the same end.
>>721537215 >why are urban men so... unwilling to stand up to these little shitnozzles By and large they're complicit or scared of any confrontation. The ones that are willing typically do. Urbanites are soft.
I live in Texas, so the chance of pinko scum rioting here is basically zero. Almost a shame, because I'd enjoy seeing some limp-wristed fucks try to bash the fash and then get their skulls caved in.
>>721537215 Because anyone living in the city has shot to do. If we didn't have good/important jobs, we wouldn't be in the city. There are only 4 types of people in the city; people who work, people who did work and retired, trust fund baby's who like to complain, and the homeless.
>>721540369 You're saying these people risked their jobs and possible jailtime for 25 and 35k?
Fuck, I make 45k and I wouldn't risk my job or jailtime for that measly amount of money. It would have to be at least $300k, and that's on the cheap end to buy off a poor piece of shit like me. These motherfuckers make 6 figures, I really doubt they could be bought for the price of a Honda Civic.
>Donald Trump won the election umm, no sweetie. Hillary WON the popular vote by 3 million votes. So, as a democratic nation, we should respect the results that Drumpfy lost by 4 million votes. we can't let the 5 million votes against Zlompf go to waste. if you're perfectly fine with a candidate being president even though he lost by 6 million votes, then honestly you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, islamaphobic, rapist, child molesting, misogynist inbred piece of shit >hillary won the election by 10 million votes >stumpf only won because of russian hacking and fake news >badumpf is the most unpopular president of all time >hillary is running again in 2020 SAY IT WITH ME /pol/, MADAME PRESIDENT
>>721542569 Considering the seven countries upon which he has imposed a ban have not been the most directly responsible for any terror attacks on U.S. soil in the last decade and a half. We've lost, five, maybe six total U.S. citizens in Afghanistan, Iran and the surrounding countries.
Yet Saudi Arabia, where the main brunt of the terror cells are, namely Al Quaeda, have claimed over four-thousand on U.S. soil? As well as Egypt where many known cells exist within sheltering and hiding these groups in a supposedly neutral/allied country?
>>721542994 That picture about sums up his way of thinking. Though it's not entirely his fault. While he put the full ban into effect, those particular seven countries have been flagged since the Bush era. All presidents since have let Saudi Arabia and Egypt slip. If we lose one, we lose the very infrastructure that holds up this country; Oil.
And if a few thousand U.S. citizens die in the process? There's still 1.6 billion more.
>>721540041 What is it you people don't understand about the Mexico thing? We send them hundreds of millions in foreign aid every year. We stop, there's millions.
We tax shit they send here, they depend on us economically, they're still going to trade with us.
>durr hurr but if you pay $7 for a $5 orange from Paco's Fuckbag Farm you pay the extra $2, not Paco Yeah no shit retard, we won't buy their shit, buying domestic will then be cheaper, or the Mexican people will adapt.
The wall is going up, illegals can fuck right off out of the country and stay the living fuck out.
Mexicans here legally, especially those that assimilate to American culture? We love you. You're welcome here. I know you're feeling targeted. You aren't, and, if the administration flips on that and comes after you, I'll be right by your side. Here illegally? Get the fuck out. And do it now.
Until the Supreme Court vacancies filled, One added now to fill Scalia seat, then the Second when Ginsberg goes.. then Third when <insert retired justice.> Then the winning and the whining will get tedious.
>>721543586 This disproves or counters nothing. The wall will have doors and gates, you unbelievable fucking moron.
If disaster strikes Mexico, we will be there. If it hits us, Mexico is there. As is Canada. Still need a wall, because it's a fucking massive border and manning it 24/7 is insane.
And, we fuck over Mexico by allowing unfettered mass illegal immigration. Why? Dude. Mexico fucking SUCKS. I've been to the not-poorest but not tourist areas, I've been to the poorest areas... they are riddled with poverty, corruption, and cartel violence. Their government needs to be replaced with one that actually works for the people, guess what happens when we take everyone who can make it over the border? Anyone who would otherwise affect political change, start a revolution, whatever, just comes over here, works under the table, doesn't pay taxes, and still benefits from the taxpayer funded system.
On an individual level I get it, these are, by and large, not bad people, but we are hurting our nation, and the nation of Mexico by not enforcing our own rules. You come here, you're an American first, or you go back. You benefit us, or you go back.
We simply do not have the resources to care for the whole world. Maybe one day, with sufficient automation and materials advancement we will, but that is not this decade, maybe not this century.
Build the wall. Remain allies. They should pay for half of it, and get to staff their side how they see fit, if they don't wanna play ball, we punish them on trade. I don't see what's so hard about this concept, we can't be global Welfare and world police and still be a decent place to live.
>>721544109 It is, so far as I know, more about the instability of the region, more likelihood of jihadi influx from the places we stuck our dicks in the hornet's nest.
Rich ass Saudis may be conservative Muslim as fuck, but they don't wanna aloha snackbar, they'll work within the system to overthrow rules they don't like, not by bombs, because luxuries are nice, hiring Instagram models to piss on is more fun than dying.
>>721545959 Can we talk about how David Brock always looks like his pupils are trying to escape his face so they don't have to see one more small child brutally raped and beaten by that cartoonish looking freak fuck?
>>721546193 Please, tell us where the alt-right (note: that isn't a group, just fyi, not formally, anyway) is wrong? Go on.
Oh, it's almost like there isn't a party line, because it's not a party. It's a coalition of people who were sick of your shit, sick of communist, socialist, SJW attitudes taking over universities, jobs, shaming and shouting down any opposition, regarding feelings above facts, convincing everyone that the world owes them something and that it's all the evil white man's fault!
Fuck you. We don't owe you shit. Nobody does. Game doesn't end here. If Trump is impeached, killed, or cucks out, the movement will go on without him.
>>721546438 >2 weeks in, give it a minute, comprehensive tax code reform is not easy >every cabinet appointment being stonewalled >baseless accusations >I actually think the twitter call outs were poorly thought out, but that they were also overblown
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