Attractiveness is irrelevant.

>>721433546
There is none.

>>721433546
Christians rape little boys.
Muslims rape little girls.

>>721433546
Attractiveness is never irrelevant.

>>721433546
Their ideals+values differ from one another and to top it off, the ones of the muzzie do no represent/cohere with the nation ( ie. the nation of the US)

>>721433546
The western standards of living are way more comfortable than whatever hijab Jane is offering so Bible Brittany wins every time for me even though I hate religion. Came down to cultural values really.

>>721433735
your mom is irrelevant

I don't like either one. Given a choice, I would not allow either of them to immigrate into my country. People born here are born here, it's their country, too.

>>721433679
Well that's just not true, it's very common in Muslim culture to participate in "boy play"

One is a poser, other might not be.

>>721433546

the one on the left probably won't kill you if you make a religious joke.

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just to name a few

One represents a terrorist ideology that attempts to control everything which it cannot dominate through subversion, infiltration and cultural bombing, as well as media manipulation at home and abroad. They believe they are righteous to the very end and a great rewards awaits them for spreading their vile nonsense.

The other is a Muslim.

>>721433546
One is posing for Facebook the other wants to kill people for allah

right is right. left is wrong. /pol/ in a nutshell

One of them lives in a region of the world where it is understandable for them to be religious. The other has no excuse.

>>721433546

The mudslime will actually kill in the name of her god

>>721433546

The one on the left wants to defend her territory.

The one on the right wants to destroy everyone else's territory.

>>721433664
/thread

>>721433903
That sentence just described almost every political group in existence. Republicans, Democrats, Muslims, Christians, and pretty much everything else in the world.

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>>721433546
Easy. The girl on the left is posing for a satiric picture to respond to Obama's "bittler clingers" snark at Middle America, and the one on the right is an Islamist terrorist.

>>721433974
By defend her territory, do you mean get rid of all of gays, hispanics and whatnot?

Because she probably votes for politicians that bomb the shit out of the middle east for no reason.

>>721433899
Why would someone spend so much Tim making a chart that's largely simplistic bullshit? Could have better spent his time actually studying and learning about the contents and history of the Bible.

>>721433546
one has no idea what she is doing

>>721433860
I thought Homosexuality was punishable by death in the shitskin's religion. Or do they just kill the little boy for being a raped faggot?

>>721434096
The Quran never says that. Bible does though.

>>721433546
one is possibly a terrorist and the other is definitely a stupid cunt.

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one wont go to war and blow herself up in the name of her god.

>>721433679
That means Christians are gay

>>721433936
>/pol/
>bible-thumping conservatives

just no

>>721433679
Kek

>>721434058
It's actually pretty accurate though, unlike the cancerous faggotry that says Christians and Muslims worship the same God. Protip: if your God isn't a trinity, it's not the same as the Christian God.

>>721433903
This

>>721434226
Protip: If you worship any god you're an idiot.

>>721433664

muslims want to kill other people who dont believe in their bullshit

christians like the bitch on the left will just kill someone that fucks with them. they dont go out and hunt people down who are muslims.

big difference

>>721434166
What would happen if Mecca were to be bombed?

As a Catholic, I wouldn't care if Vatican burned.

>>721434058
Because it's entirely accurate and includes sources? Fuck off

>>721433963
This statistic is just wrong. Alone all the first world Muslims dont think sharia should rule

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>>721434058
It was compiled by a Christian scholar on islam, and ee has written quite a lot.
The point is there are enormous differences between the two faiths that you aren't willing to accept because your leftist, aethiest indoctrination blinds you.

You have to understand also that there is an alliance between organizations like CAIR, so called"moderate islam", and leftist/socialist organizations to attack what is broadly known as White/Christian America. Simply because they are in fact White, Christian, and American. It's very obvious to anyone who has been paying attention.

>>721434226
Yeah but Allah shares the same root etymologically as El, another name for Yahweh. And Christians think they worship the same God as the Jews, and the Jewish conception of God isn't trinitarian. Also that list is full of inaccuracies.

Do you not understand Offense and Defense?

>>721434270
In my experience, atheists are, as a rule, simpletons. I have a PhD and work in academia, so I encounter a lot of them.
Protip: keep self-pleasuring out of debates.

religion is cancer

>>721434166
>make mistake with explosives while EOD technician in a foreign land
>blow self up
Still not seeing a difference.
Even the intent doesn't matter:
>intentionally calling in a danger-close strike with the hope that God will protect her
Still not seeing a difference.

>>721434270
you need to watch more Morgan Freeman movies.

God is out there, in Charleston, Mississippi

>>721434367
>The point is there are enormous differences between the two faith
No shit.
>that you aren't willing to accept because your leftist, aethiest indoctrination blinds you.
Oh ok

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>>721433903

ohohohoooooo

>>721434274
Wut? In every religion are fanatic idiots

>>721433899

Lel Keks. Such Bullshit. Many biases.

>>721434348
stop living under a rock, plenty of those sharia fuckers in England alone.

>>721434371
so Americans are invaders, mujaheddin are freedom fighres?

>>721434348
Many of the first world Muslims are against Sharia Law, true.
But the majority of muslims lives in thirld world countries and a big chunk of them are pro-Sharia.

>>721434402
So you're saying out of all the academics you know, all these intelligent people with phd's you are the odd one out. Who's the simpleton again?

>>721434348
because sharia is a personal moral code and a term misunderstood in the west to mean imposed tyrannical religious rule of law.

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>>721434453

>>721433546
You're implying that they're both terrorists. Neither one is doing anything wrong in this picture.

>>721434486
read
>>721434367

>>721434465
so what do you have against White Christian America that you have in favor of in islam? what brings you to one side instead of the other?

>>721433903
The left one is a Christian, not a Jew

Towel over hair (oppressive)
Left one claims to 'protect the country (kill extremists)', right one claims 'attack infadels (kill innocents)'
Book on the right has more straightfoward rules and has more people actually following them.
Book on the left has 2 parts, most followers don't read to deep into part one and cherry pick the good parts in part 2.

>>721434540
"personal" codes are not enforced by threat of beheading or lashings.

ITT; Taqiyya shilling, /pol/, and general trolling.

>>721434370
I'm not interested in etymology, or rather, I am but think it's irrelevant here (I mean, the etymology of Lord is from Old English for Loaf Guardian) and I would respectfully submit that If someone says Jesus is God and someone else says he is not, they do not worship the same God, whatever else they say.

>>721434568
not him, but while one is on average less violent than the other, both try to shove their backwards version of morality on everyone, while also being deluded that they are morally superior.

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>>721434402
>I have a PhD
>Muh appeal to my own authority

>>721434540
Oh I'm sure the jizya tax on non Muslims is just "misunderstood" and the stoning of adulterers is just "misunderstood"

Kek. You have a mental disorder

>>721434330
It's cherry picked as fuck and anyone who has studied the bible even a little bit knows this.

>>721433546
one blows up
the other doesn't

>>721434657
so which one in that picture presents themselves as more extreme, to you?

>>721434274
Middle East has never been fucked with, the Muzzles are all rabid animals and Americans are very exceptional and awesome

>>721434523
Not at all. I know many PhDs who are religious. I encounter many atheists who are 19 and decided that they understood the ultimate meaning of the cosmos around age 12.

>>721434671
Sharia is interpreted personally, do you think all Muslims want to stone people? Jews and Christians are ordered to stone people in their holy book but it doesn't mean shit. Same for Muslims we allow to integrate, and I know plenty of boring American Muslims so let's not pretend integration is impossible

>>721434475
yeah, cus Hinduism and Buddhism is crawling with religious fanatics

>>721434664
You're not entirely bright, though. I know many, many atheist PhDs. I am not an atheist. Ergo, I don't think having a PhD means one has authority on religion.

>>721434651
And if a Jew says god the father is god?

>>721433546
The one on the left will use the gun to defend you from the one one the right.

>>721434805
>hi I've never been to rural Asia

>>721434753
I was raised Catholic and turned to apatheism somewhere during age 13.

Why would this be a bad thing, doctor man?

>>721433546
the one on the left wants to defend herself.

the one on the right wants to kill anyone that disagrees with her.

Kind of a big difference.

>>721434804
integrating muslims in christian countries won't be easy. quran literally says not to ally yourselfs with the goddamn Christians. -- https://quran.com/5/51
https://quran.com/5/51

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Can God create a rock so.heavy he can't lift it?

>>721433546
The hot American girl is showing of her various rights in America such as the 1st and 2nd amendments to the constitution which are clearly shown here in her bible and gun. The image on the right is likely a fighter in some country that is torn apart with religious in fighting.

>>721434733
well on the first glance probably the one on the right, but the fact she's a woman soldier makes me think she might be a Kurdish fighter, not an ISIS member, so who actually knows.

>>721434855
/thread

>>721434939
Bible says to kill pagans but if you live in a civilized society you learn not to be a religious fanatic who takes that shit seriously

>>721434805

yes, this is true. Hindus killed muslims and Buddhists killed christians

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islam has a long and sordid history of attempted colonizing in the name of Muhammadanism. Todays world is simply a reflection of a long standing tradition of attempting to usurp a host culture, pit the host society against itself while attempting to out breed them at the same time. Hijra is a real thing and many young muslim males are very much aware how easy the left is to prey upon, using it's own weakness to virtue signal against their shared opponent(that last part is important- there is a shared opponent between these two groups -the house of the west) and this is the unholy alliance demonstrated here.
>>721434367

>>721433974
>her territory

>>721434753
All you're saying here is you talked to a teenager and everyone already knows they're idiots.

>>721434753
That comment fundamentally doesn't even make sense. You are the theist arguing a god created the cosmos, you are the one claiming to understand the ultimate meaning of the cosmos.

>>721435028
except if you're a medieval pagan or performed abortions.

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>>721434964
this. the difference is literally the Constitution and American citizens rights, versus what is either a radical and underground group such as ISIS, or an overt, authoritarian group like HAMAS. I'm fairly sure the muslima is wearing Hamas rags.

>>721434841
>Ergo

Damn you so edumacated

>>721435255
Ali G, that you bruv?

>>721434850
He's right. And if he says Jesus or the Holy Spirit is not, he's wrong.
>>721434888
checked...
I's not a bad thing, but no one who is in his twenties or thirties looks back on himself at 13 and thinks he was anything but a retard then.
>>721435102
No, I'm saying most atheists become atheists at an age where everyone is an idiot, so it's no measure of great intellect to be an atheist.

>>721435139
medieval era was 500 years ago you retarded fuck

and you just have to make a state law that allows abortions and those backwards retards cant do shit about it, half of them arent even against it because of religious beliefs, but because its "a living being"

One promotes terrorism
One promotes patriotism

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>>721435030
Hindus and Buddhists are still killing and expelling muslims and for good reason. we in the West have been infected with ultra liberal bleeding heart types that can see no wrong in what they do, because they are told their entire lives that their and only their position is the morally superior one.

Even when it means attempting to elect someone who openly bragged about orchestrating the collapse of countries (like Libya) and having its leader murdered in the street.

>>721435315
>so it's no measure of great intellect to be an atheist.
no, but it should be a measure of at least average intellect. As arrogant as it does sound to religious people, we do actually look down upon you, well most of us do as we do feel and know that you are deluded. Annoying, sure, but we both annoy the fuck out of each other anyway.

>>721435106
Yes, and I came to those conclusions in my late twenties after reading everyone from Foucault and Derrida and Russell and Baudrillard to Aquinas and Chesterton and Augustine and Boethius. I don't for a second think that everyone who read deeply in the various traditions on the meaning (or meaninglessness) of the cosmos would draw the same conclusions I have. I only say that every atheist I've known concluded his search in middle school.

>>721433974

So Iraq, Palenstine/Israel, Syria and Afghanistan became american soil then?

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I kind of find it ironic that the peoples who invented modern math and astronomy; whose numbers we use to this day, have reverted into a tribe of hivemind savages.

>>721433546

The girl on the left is posing for a photo to show off on social media

The girl on the right has & will kill people

>>721435315
atheists just have one less imaginary friend

>>721435451
>As arrogant as it does sound to religious people, we do actually look down upon you
I assume that is largely why middle schoolers become atheists.

>>721433903
Yer making me cum

>>721435315
Sage they worship 1/3 of the same God? 33.33% ?

>>721435546
what is circular reasoning?

>>721435563
What happens to the 0.01%?
O.o

>>721435348
>medieval era was 500 years ago you retarded fuck
still showed how loving and peaceful Christianity was, especially when it had to be forcefully spread across mostly pagan Europe.

>>721435477
Well in that case you're probably just ignorant.

Moreover even if that were true, atheists don't claim to understand anything about the cosmos to begin with. Your previous comment still fundamentally makes no sense whatsoever.

>>721435563
It's not the same God, though. Here's a metaphor: Jews and Muslims think God is single and happy on his own. Christians think God is a threesome.

>>721435676
it's a moot point because unlike muslims, christians have changed along with the times.

>>721435549
>I assume that is largely why middle schoolers become atheists.
I see no connection there, it's perfectly understandable to feel above someone you think is deluded.

>>721435684
You're unable to argue. You're not NOT proving me right.

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>being born on a random part on the surface of planet 'earth'
>be ready to protect this piece of earth with your life

Only retards care about collective affection to something made up by egocentric kings and dictators. You are problem why 10 billion people died for no reason

>>721435744
And it's perfectly natural to adopt a stance that tells you it makes you better than others.

>>721433546
One won't be stoned to death for speaking out against her male leaders.

>>721433546
The difference is that the left one won't really kill anyone, just posing.

The right one might kill people based on retarded reasons.

They indifferent in one thing, they believe in bullshit.

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>>721435720
as a Serb, I think I can argue it didn't change that much. Yugoslavian civil war was more of a free for all war between Orthodox Christianity, Catholicism and Islam than anything else. Religious extremism from both 3 sides still left unhealed scars all over the peninsula.

The only difference is the mussy is better eqquiped

>>721435796
>And it's perfectly natural to adopt a stance that tells you it makes you better than others.
if that stance happens to make the most logical sense, yes

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>>721435781
This.

Patriotism, or any kind of nationalistic pride is a fool's game.

Why be proud of something you haven't achieved yourself?

>>721435888
>both 3 sides
ooops

>>721435888
Nobody likes Serbs or Bosnians anyways.

>>721435989
thank you, you are a man after my own heart. Nothing makes my blood boil faster than people taking pride in shit they had nothing to do with, people taking pride for other peoples accomplishments, disgusting.

>>721435531
>impling the "golden age" of islam isn't revisionist as fuck
good goy, next you'll tell me the blacks built the pyramids

>>721435960
It doesn't though. And 13 year olds aren't becoming atheists because they're logicians.

>>721435989
Collectivity is human nature. A man dooms himself to death if he declares himself an "individual" while his enemies group against him.

>>721435989
this is a post made by a European who has never known exceptionalism in xir life. you would rather see the society that nurtured you and gave you life burned to the ground than ever stand up for it. which is a sad, nihilistic view of the world.

>>721433546
>muh bible and quran are equal

One on the right would get acid in the face if she dressed like the white chick.

>>721436118
no, no it's not, they actually had something akin to a cultural and technological renaissance during Europe's Dark Ages. It's super ironic compared to today.

Ever wondered where stars got their names? Why do we call our numbers "Arabic"?

>>721436204
Well they aren't logicians, but obviously have more foresight and reasoning than the flock listening to the pastor's trite.

>>721436113
>>721435989
Pride in one's nation is merely pride in one's culture. We all participate in culture. Your view merely leads to relativism, which is laziness blended with apathy and a dash of self-loathing. You cannot defend a cultural value like pluralism even because you won't accept the idea that your culture got it right where others did not.

>>721436204
maybe some are, I think you can become an atheist with nothing more but introspective logic. Either that or actually read a bible.

>>721433546
It's more logical to believe in a god

the values taught by the book obviously make all the difference anon, tell me one thing jesus did morally wrong, where as mohoman chopped a hundred heads in a day and thats not just myth in a book thats historical fact.
mohoman slaughtered over a hundred prisoners himself in a day.
vs
a carpenter whos comparable to an anceint julian assange.

>>721435888
if anything it shows that religious multiculturalism doesnt work. but christianity still isnt even close to islam when it comes to incorporating religion into law and fucking up your neighbors over those retarded things, especially in modern times.

>>721434058
Yeah fuck Tim

>>721436322
That's some fine circular reasoning. Yes, if we treat your conclusion that atheism is right as if it is a premise, you will end up with the conclusion that atheism is right.
This is why I think it's a shame atheists stop thinking at 13 in any serious way about these matters.

>>721436271
>>721436274
Oh no, my square miles and imaginary lines on a map.

The world is a place bigger than your homeland, which serves no purpose but to nurture you into adulthood.
Be it Pakistan, or US, you are the product of your nation.
One will drive a pick up and throw grenades in their backyard for fun, while the other will grenade pickups as a child because an elder told them to.
Both make me equally sick.

>>721433546
>>721433664
>>721433664
>Being this retarded

There is a huge fucking difference.

The left equates to bullshit. No average American is gonna go out blowing shit up. And look at her, if that girl hasn't done something to piss off god, then I'm the Queen of England.

There is a huge fucking difference between the West's blase endorsement of religion which in modern society is nothing more than a social club everyone wishes they didn't have to go to....

There is a huge fucking difference here and if you can't see it, you're fucking blind and just as bad as religious tards

>>721436324
the culture was already made before your birth, you are expected to just go along with it, questioning it or doing things against it is considered either blasphemous and offensive or just spiteful and immature.

Being proud in your culture shows you are not individualist enough, you want to belong in a team, you want something bigger than yourself, so you imprinted on the first thing you saw.

I am not some ubermensch, I'm a quite insecure person, but I can easily see that culture is just memetics.

>>721436310
*Hindu numeric system, which was invented by Indo-Aryans hilariously enough.

And are you seriously implying "Orion" is fucking Arabic? Are you in elementary school?

>>721436354
I would be interested to know how introspective logic could make one an atheist. Obviously it's imbecilic to claim one could become an atheist from reading the Bible. The Bible could be 100% horseshit and it would have no bearing at all on whether there was a supernatural being or not.

>>721433546
the left doesnt blow up herself and wont let her kids blow up

>>721436516
>implying that these matters are worth mulling over

>>721434170
no. that means theyre straight with "cheat days". also you can be straight and still like traps

>>721436659
>wah I lost I wanna stop playing now

>>721436544
>all humans are equal
>human tribal groupings are just social constructs
>nation states are just imaginary lines

Holy fuck you're retarded

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>>721436645
>The one on the right will suicide bomb a school.
>The one on the left will shoot up the school then suicide by gunshot afterward.

Different strokes for different folks.
Same result.

>>721436734
>arguing with a religious person
>winning an argument
That statement is about as paradoxical as is belief in a deity

>>721436645
American girls are known for blowing up when they age though.

In the US there's 2.9 mobility scooters per person!

>>721436595
That radically oversimplifies matters, though. For one, it posits the individual as a competent measurer of truth, while denying that any earlier individuals might have had truth insights, and while denying that a culture consists of those ideas that have seemed best to the majority of truth seekers. Too, it envisions a position outside culture from which you can judge culture, but of course no such position exists.

>>721436613
Akkadian yo, Romans took the word from Mesopotamia.

>>721434096
Actually yes. I've seen some documentaries and more importantly talked to some ex soldiers of the wars.
Dudes will rape a boy and then blame the kid. It's some fucked up shit. Doesn't always result in death but more often than not.

>>721436577
So you are imagining that left is an average American and right is an average Muslim but you cite no sources to prove your assertion.

Opinion discarded

>>721436805
just asserting your superiority is not an argument

>>721435781
this. most humans arent good statisticians or logicians.

>>721436744
Found the nazi

>>721433546
The one on the left will try to kill you if you try to changer *her* religion.
The one on the right will try to kill you if you don't change *your* religion.

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>>721436922
>if you dont agree with me you're a nazi

>>721436922
nice ad hominem

>>721436324

As if you chose this culture. You've been programmed your whole life to hold the values 'your' country or 'your' religion. If you were born in inda, you'd be a hindu, If you were born in Iran, you'd be a muslim. Same person, different programming. Fighting for the protection of any culture is fucking gay

>>721435756
Lol, you said atheists think they understand the cosmos, I don't have to p[rove you wrong to begin with. That statement is already self-refuting.

>>721435035
>islam has a long and sordid history of attempted colonizing in the name of Muhammadanism.
No shit son, in name of who do you think europeans colonized the americas?

>>721436920
I didn't assert jack.
All I'm saying is if I chose to not follow a religious path, that's my choice alone.
I don't advocate atheism, nor denounce a deity unless you ask my honest opinion.

I can't prove nor disprove a God, therefore he makes no emotional or situational impact in my life whatsoever.

What I don't understand is people following millenia old rules and visions written down by opium chewing rapist hermits.

>>721436615
>Obviously it's imbecilic to claim one could become an atheist from reading the Bible
Well I did

so did this fat fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3rGev6OZ3w

The amount of psychopathic behavior God shows in the old testament especially is what made me doubt the existence of him. I won't lie, I don't remember majority of it, it was like 20 years ago, but the story of Abraham and Isaac, the story about that dude being punished to eat bread prepared over a fire made from human shit, then shit about mixing fabrics is sinful... it just has too much stupid shit for anyone to swallow.

I'm tired of these threads. I'm tired of sympathizers that support terrorists. Im tired of people thinking we should bend our knee for their culture. Im tired of the world pretending west culture is the issue, that they haven't been jihading Each other for centuries.
All trolling aside I long for the day that the rest of the world grows just as sick of it as me. I want you to feel the fear. I want you to look at your son as you feel the rumble of tanks and know you took your country from your children. I want you to smell burning flesh and to know it will never end. I want you to know you can't run, I want you to know that you had your chance to join civilization and instead you chose sand and blood.

>>721436922
Further proving my point, you're fucking retarded

>>721435684
Except they do. Atheist claim to know the grandest secret of all. If there is a God or not. And they claim there isn't it. As opposed to many Theists who just believe in a God. It's the entire concept of faith. Atheists are for the most part dunces in my experience and I agree whole heartedly with the PHD dude.

>>721437183
freedom to believe whatever the fuck they wanted and a better life than they had back in europe

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>>721437183
actually America was founded by people escaping religious persecution. but you clearly wouldn't know that since English isn't your first language, either

>>721433546
The girl on the left won't actively seek out people of other faiths to murder.

>>721437006
>what is a nationalist

Arguing that borders matter, and roping in tribal flocking during the age of global language and communication is retarded.

>>721437122
Your argument has some rather large holes in it.
I didn't choose to be born in my family, but I would protect my own mother before I would protect yours. You would call that, what? Parochialism? Fucking gay?
No one denies that if we were born in a different culture, we'd have a different culture? Does that necessarily mean that 1) we should only feel indifferent to our culture, or 2) that all cultures are equal?

>>721437318
>borders don't matter maaaaaan
>we're all just citizens of earth bro

Are you trolling right now?

>>721437135
Nope, never said that.

>>721436490
in this war particularly, the majority of war crimes such as civilian executions were done by the Christians, granted there were more of them in the war than muslims and muslims did some of their own war crimes, but nothing of the same volume.

Also Holland is pretty peaceful yo, spent loads of times there and I can't imagine a more multicultural country.

No difference.
Both retarded.

>>721437318
you should look up the definition of the words you're trying to use

>>721437183
In the name of the Queen/King of England/Spain/France. Tard.

>>721437382
even if it sounds naive, he is right. Countries only exist because enough people believe in them, something like Warhammer 40k Orks.

>>721437382
No. Borders should not matter. What should matter is a fair justice system that shakes away dead weight.

>>721436781
This

>>721437461
I'm not gonna whip thesaurus to seem smarter to ejits I'll never meet.

>>721437328
>1) we should only feel indifferent to our culture,
yes please, I would appreciate that very much.

>>721437196
You now just sound mad. No one is trying to take "muh choice" away, so stop sounding like some abortion-addicted feminist.
I'm submitting that your ideas of proof or disproof are flawed, and that your tendentious way of characterizing believers is both histrionic and self-servingly narcissistic.
So consider, for example, this millenia old rule: we should care for the poor. How is its age relevant to whether we do so or not?

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There may be differences, but both are inferior.

>>721437385
Yes, you quite literally said that, its in the comments, just follow the thread back lol

>>721437328
protecting anyone is fucking retarded
life is a pitch black purposeless nothingness in which people keep looking for purpose and use violent in their desperate attempts to find any fulfillment as they struggle their way through hell

>>721437481
>>721437479
Tribal groupings exist for a reason, this is basic human nature. Nations are a manifestation of a people's (tribe's) will to survive. The idea that we are all equal is an entirely post-modernist idea. No basis in nature.

>>721433546

There is no difference. They're both tribal.

What I mean by that is right-wing accept those who are in their tribe but reject others outside of their tribe.

Tribesmen tend to be warriors.

>>721437403
yeah people can be ruthless, but i'm pretty sure those christians in balkans did it "because our god says so", they just did it because "we hate you fucking muslim bastards"

the muslims tend to always use their god and their holy book as reasons to fuck people up, and their book allows this and even encourage it. the bible does not.

that's the main difference im trying to point out

>>721437205
But again, you could believe in a god called Zeus or the god of the theists and draw the same conclusions about the Bible. You did not become atheist from that.

>>721433546
Left is an idiot who likes guns, the bible, the American flag.

Right wants to murder people horrifically for the sake if Islam, establish a theocratic dictatorship.

Of course I don't know either of the individuals involved, but if you can't see that there's a moral difference between, say, ISIS and the average American gunfag, you're stupid/blind.

>>721437641
>but i'm pretty sure those christians in balkans did it "because our god says so"
DIDN*T do it because of the bible

>>721433546
Girl on the left won't get legally gang raped

The American one is not shooting anyone and not forced to dress in a particular way

>>721437561
We shouldn't. They should starve and die out.

You don't see much empathy in other animals.

>>721433546
the one on the left puts the picture on instagram and goes to starbucks after, the one on the right puts the camera down and goes to shoot infidels

>>721437662
I was a christian so I decided to read "my holy book" as I thought it was only proper to do so. I read it, thought it was awful, started questioning everything, became an atheist.

Not that difficult anon.

>>721433546
One will stone raped women to death, the other will post about raped women on Facebook.

>>721437465
>>721437280
>>721437309
Of course it was in name of their kings/queens, so did muslims, but at the end of the day all of that was justified by saying they were doing all of that in the name of god.
Seriously wouldn't kill you to read a history book or two, but i guess it's my fault for seeing where this thread is going and expect rationality.

>>721437559
Fine, but when you tell people to feel indifferent to their culture, and the next guy to come along is a jihadist who says his culture is Truth, most people will be drawn to the confident guy and away from the self-loathing NEET.

>>721434226
Trinity is never mentioned in bible. It was invented a couple hundred years after the new testament was finished

>>721433546
one of them is going to go to Starbucks and buy a latte
the other is going to go to an embassy and buy a one way ticket to boom town

>>721437604
You can't quote me saying it, because I never said it. Fight me.

>>721437614
And here's another reason I am not an atheist.

>>721437839
>Of course it was in name of their kings/queens
irrelevant moot point, we're not talking about the past. modern christianity has evolved along with the times.

The difference is:

KILL BOTH. Finally the world would look better.

>>721437906
lol

>>721437627
are atheists tribal, or are they more accepting of, say, fundamentalists than I am?

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>>721437957
fking sheep get redpilled fgt

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>>721437839
You can pot about being wrong all you want, but your language betrays you. This refugee crisis is exactly what it's been called, an enormous trojan horse - aided and abetted by the destruction of whole nations because of globalist policies, which so many in this thread seem to fawn over (muh open borders, muh one world)

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>>721437800
It may not be difficult, but it is certainly dumb.

>>721437845
And?

>>721437623
But we are far removed from tribal groupings as is.
What people seek in their peers is value. If I rip my pants, I'd rather seek a Chinese person who can sow instead of my countryman who can't, for example.
Being born under the same flag bears little meaning in modern life. People can do amazing things when they apply themselves regardless of social status.

>>721437973
I never said the contrary, i was just arguing with all of those who say islam is bad because centuries ago they were conquering land to expand it while ignoring that europeand kingdoms did the same.

>>721437957
>implying you need religion to be a nice person and help others

>>721438154
and we're telling you you're wrong about america because it was actually about escaping persectution back in europe you retarded fuck, how about you read a god damn history book yourself

>>721438073
>You couldn't digest the bible, ergo you are dumb for doing so

Jesus

to the no border fags:

We feel proud about the achievements of other, national brothers & sisters, because we profit from them. Their success improves our society. Their inventions make our lives easier. Their business success pumps money into our system. Their sport-victories demonstrate the potential of our people.
We love our countries, and our countries the most, because we grew up in them, grew familiar to the landscape and culture, and connect many lovely memories with them, as well as learned how to handle life from our cultural perspective. We honor the values that we grew up with, because they unite and strengthen us.
We celebrate victories in research, sports, business and politics as collective achievements, because it was our cultural heritage that allowed them to be achieved, and many of them will improve our own lives. We as a culture build our nation, and is our right to defend it against unwelcome intruders.

A "man without roots", i.e. a person that denies their cultural alignment, is nothing but a twig in a river. Afloat on the plain surface on the water, disconnected from his tree, and doomed to be washed into any direction of outside motions.

>>721433679
Budistfag here , they are both mold of this planet fyi

>>721438261
But in the end, everything you cherish is subjective.

As is to the rootless man.

>>721438123
The funny thing is, only whites are removed from their tribal groupings. Ever wonder why Europe and North America are SO insistent on becoming multicultural, while Japan remains 98% Japanese? Hong Kong 96% Chinese, despite being a "beacon" of mutliculturalism.

The ideas you're writing to me right now have no scientific basis. People don't fight for "ideas". If you had the choice to fight for your mother or to fight for "democracy" which would you choose?

Blood, soil, and family. That is what humans fight for.

And, I would like to reiterate, we are not all equal. Nobody is better than anyone else, but we aren't all capable of the same things. There are anecdotes and outliers, but history is on my side in this.

>>721433835
Why does your make frings

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>>721437641
also debatable as the, one of the slogans for the serbian paramilitary units was " With Faith in God, Freedom or Death" or "For King and Fatherland, with Faith in God"

Pic related

>>721433679
muslims also rape little boys because the quran doesnt say its wrong so they do that until they can fuck the girls

>>721438166
>implying the people who are saying we shouldn't help the poor but let them die aren't atheists
>>721438226
>you think it's reasonable to reject theism across the board because you reject one version's book, and you think this is not retarded

Im suprised no one stated the only obvious reason. Because the one on the right is ready to kill someone the one on left isnt

>>721438367
Blood and property, yes.

Flag and nation? No.

>>721438389
there will always be extremists, the difference is modern christianity has far less of it compared to islam.

>>721433546
One is wearing a vest with nades.

Left : they may kill me
Right : they kill me

>>721438484
You're unwillingness to fight for your nation is a symptom of the destruction of our identity as nations.

Today our nations stand as nothing but a market for foreigners to have a better life. We used to stand for values, principles, our people. Now? "Borders are just imaginary lines man..."

>>721437841
Such macho fantasies, reminds me of the time when I dreamed of being a WWE wrestler.

>>721438343
Being the greatest export nation, having worlds greatest engineers, and worlds entrepreneurship-friendliest economy are not objective titles.

>>721438443
pretty sure there was a study that showed religiousfags were less charitable than the rest

also, if you're implying you need religion to be ethical and have morals you're pretty fucking deluded and should stop posting cus that's a fairly huge fucking fallacy which instantly refutes everything you say

>>721433546
One is civilized, one is a fucking sand monkey

>>721438605
Why am I not surprised?

>>721438632
Not everyone cares for these things, you know.

>>721438584
>symptom of the destruction of our identity as nations.
good on him

>>721438632
Deutschfag?
Not everyone cares for these things, you know.

>>721438018

Reincarnation progress...

Caveman -> Barbarians -> Fundamentalist -> Conservatives -> Centrist -> Democrats -> Liberals -> Godlike

Those on the right of the graph above tend to be very rigid and unchanging. They're very obstinate.

Those left of Centrist have dealt with many changes and are better at adopting to change. They know that change is always present.

>>721438584
Well, duh. If bombs were to drop on my country, I'd grab all my shit and loved ones, and nope the fuck out.

>>721438584
Nationalism isn't a good thing, it's what caused the third reich.

>>721433899
This cherry picks the Bible REALLY hard.

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>>721438698
>as my enemies unite around one flag, I have naught to fear, for I am an individual. surely they will realize I remove myself from petty tribal groupings

>>721438810
Correction: Right and Left mixed up.

Caveman - rigid
Godlike : easily adapt to change.

>>721438670
There wasn't.
"About 75 percent of people who frequently attend religious services gave to congregations, and 60 percent gave to religious charities or nonreligious ones. By comparison, fewer than half of people who said they didn’t attend faith services regularly supported any charity, even a even secular one."
I would not say that one needs religion to espouse moral views, but rather that one needs atheism to reject traditional moral claims such as care for the poor, love of neighbor, the golden rule, etc.
I would add this caveat: one reason atheists aren't worse than they are is because of hangover morality from religion.

>>721433903
4chans constant contrarianism is finally swinging back in the right direction after people realize how actually stupid trump is

>>721435531
head like a fucking orange

>>721438688
And this is the problem. Honor your nations achivements. Ask yourself where you can bring yourself in to further its glory while making a living for you and your family.
My very own solution: Being a small Business owner with a architecture office and construction company
>>721438731
>Deutschfag?
Yes.

>>721438879
Nationalism existed in every nation until the post-modern period. Suck a cock with your "muh nazi" bullshit.

>>721438865
When a nation actually has an identity, like Japan for example, the entire country is a family. It's as America, Canada, and Europe used to be.

When you are bound together with your countrymen through blood and values, you will fight for them.

>>721438942
>gave to congregations
>their own church
they made a study about how much they gave to other charities and beggars that showed religiousfags were cheapskates

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>>721438810
this is why progressivism is so hilarious, they are so far up their own ass with moral superiority it's almost laughable. You can't tell a man he's digging a hole when he believes he is building a ladder with a shovel.

>>721438942
>one needs atheism to reject traditional moral claims such as care for the poor, love of neighbor, the golden rule, etc
nope. fundamental fallacy. you can stop trying to argue now

>>721438942
>Giving money to your their own church overlords
>morals
Yeah, sure, keep paying for the father's mercedez.

>>721433546
Clearly the Islamic woman is devout in her faith and would be willing to fight and die for it. The americunt most likely picks and chooses the parts of her faith that she wants to practice and believe in

>>721438914
you are weaker as a individual than you would be in a group, but that doesn't make you any less right to chose individualism. For all it's hardships it's the only path worth taking.

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>>721439063
Alright you pass, yuroman.

Almost thought you were a deluded merricunt.

>>721436490
Are you sure that's is because of christianity or because of the political climate where christianity is largely found? No matter your religion if you live in a fucked up place with no rule of law, functional government or hope of a better life you end up like these degenerates. It's no different than gang culture in the US.

>>721439083
Nope. Only people for whom i fight for is my immediate family.

The rest can burn for all I care.

>>721439257
good point, balkans were fucked up in many ways, it was a mix of a lot of stuff that caused it.

>>721433546
The one of the left is defending her Freedoms

The one on the right is planning to spread her twisted ideology of slavery and submission to the whole world.

The hijab says it all faggots

Secular revolution.

Atheists, deists and secular protestants dragged Christianity in to the Enlightenment, whether it liked it or not.

On the other hand, no such revolution has happened in Islam.

As for the fundamentalists? One difference, Pedophilia is a mortal sin in Christianity, in Islam it's encouraged.

>>721434096
Only two adult males
They don't care if you diddle a little boy

>>721439225
My very own nationality doesn't matter in this argument.
Even IF I were american, these statements would still be true.

>>721439086
It says right in the quote that they gave to other organizations at around 60%. It's literally right in the quote.
>>721439172
It's not a fallacy, though. A fallacy would require a claim and reason. I only made the claim. Learn to logic.
>>721439195
Right in the quote: 60% give to other charities.

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Islam is a cancer and this is the result.

>>721439418
The best engineers and biggest export bits wouldn't.

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kek MIDF came flooding in this thread

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>>721439479
>learn to logic
>thinks you need religion to have morals and ethics

>>721439692
What stops you to rape and kill if you don't fear God's judgement

>>721433546
One of them won't be killed by member of their religion for showing her hair.

>>721439692
I said the opposite, though - that you need atheism to reject the traditional moral claims made by all the world's religions.

>>721439769
morals, ethics and the law.

>>721439836
That's the joke

>>721434963
why would he need to? What purpose would it serve?

>>721433546
one kills unarmed civilians, one doesn't

>>721439592
Correct, but the fact that national achievements, whatever they may be, are not subjective is.
They are part of our objective identity and as such give us more than enough valid reasons to cheerish our nations and defend them.

And yes, if you look into the 3rd world, some nations ARE better than others, so if they want to esxapte theirs, they better bring something to offer, along the lines of education, determination or at least economical wealth.

Nobody needs social leeches, regardless how many we "could" feed trough. These social programms are reserved for our less fortunate brothers and sisters, not for less fortunate strangers that came for the very reason to feed off of them.

And because we are better, we protect our achievements, our culture and our land with borders.
National sovereignty is not only our right, but our duty.
Else: Sweden.

One is tolerated by liberals, the other is not

>>721439928
thanks captain obvious

>>721439836
And you derive these from being a member of a society, and that society's morals, ethics and laws were derived from the traditional moral claims made by religion.
Thus, atheists tend to be good because of the very religions they reject.

>>721440037
>esxapte
escape

>>721440020
The one on the left, shooting in a school

>>721440037
Sweden is just a few paces ahead of Germany though.

And it's all thanks to your shit PM.