Sickest fwd ever made: debate me yes i know fwd is gay

Nah

>>721407893
Did you come to /b/ cause /o/ shit on you for liking an fwd car.
Fucking fag. rwd a best.

>>721408008
I know, but as far as fwd go, this is the best.

>>721407893
Shitty interior for a "premium brand"
this was car was basically a slower, more retarded prelude

>>721407960

go on anon

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>>721407893
fastest RWD ever made

>>721408095
Fine, but Imma have to go with >>721408115 for best fwd.
Literally the only fwd I've ever actually wanted to buy.

>>721408115
lmao what, heaps better than a prelude in every way possible. Interior is actually really nice for a 90's era car.

>>721408211
fucking what, no, preludes are comfy cruisers

>>721408419
When it comes to fwd it's literally just looks for me.
Cause I'm gonna change the car so much performance doesn't matter. Only reason I'd get fwd.
Has to be 5th gen prelude btw. Preferably rhd.

>>721408641
If you ever get the chance to drive a stock dc2r or ek9 you will know what i'm talking about, preludes have nothing on these premium machines

>>721408758
What I'm saying is how it drives doesn't matter to be. Id make it drive the way I want to.
I'm not gonna drive a fwd for performance. Unless rally.

>>721408758
are you guys all like total jdm fanboys?
there are some very good euro fwd cars.
i suppose the euros arent as accessible to be fair

>>721408965
Seriously man, i'm not here trying to defend fwd, i know what they are and there place on the food chain, if you ever get the chance to drive a type r you wil>>721409729
l remember me and this thread

>>721409729
Euros are nice in terms of luxury

>>721409881
i've driven a ep3 type r which kinda sucked because it was turboed cos the owner is a dumb fuck.
the legit only fwd car i have liked is the renault 21 turbo, not an amazing car but it handles real well and accelerates hard for a fwd car from the 80s

Sentra specv?

>>721410180
ep3 is a nugget compared to a dc2r or ek9

>>721407893
Toyota Camry for reliability. All other FWD cars are gay.

>>721410413
theyre ugly af, rip my type r virginity

>>721410461
mostly true but not entirely

>>721410502
wgat, no way, although looks are quite subjective. but man, its a timeless classic

>>721410586
i personally dont like the look, but its far from classic

>>721409881
You know what, I forgot about Focus.
I did drive my friends and did some stupid shit, was fun.
Still wouldn't buy one tho.

>>721410542
What are you saying? I still have my 99' camry from highschool and barely do maintenance on it other than oil change every 5000 miles. Now it's my younger brothers car and we beat the hell out of it. Over 250k miles. No issues whatsoever.

>>721410854
i think he meant the other cars being gay part

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COROLLA SQUAD

>>721411138
shitty car. Too small.

>>721410854
nothing gay about a corolla, those cunts last forever even after an abusive life

>>721411536
last forever, but there are way too many young guys driving them who think theyre race drivers, with their clip on rim covers on their steelies and the shitty big muffler

>>721411749
lmao man fuckin whats wrong with those cunts

>>721411843
Right.
Literally best a-b car.
Had one, did several short road trips with friends.
Only thing I ever modded was the sound system.

>>721411843
prolly watched the FNF movies too much as kids and think they know how to drive fast, prolly the same cunts who try to drift their ff cars with the plates under the rear wheels

>>721408115
You ma'am, are retarded.

>>721408115
lmao I can't imagine acura ever being premium, since where I live, the acuras are just sold as hondas

>>721407893
Fwd is gay

>>721412004
lol man i agree, fuking ff franchise fucked it up for us jap car enthusiasts

>>721412248
/thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFt_zvgLVQ

The only FWD I'd consider is either a CRX or a mk2 GTI

Maybe if you're only comparing 90's cars, but I honestly don't think even then. I owned a '06 GTi fir three years and there's no way the integra was funner than that. And my GTi wasn't even at the top of the fwd totem pole, then or now.

Sold it for a 350z for that rwd

>>721412263
like jap cars are cool as hell, but theyre so blown out of proportion these days, like I saw a fucking pink GTR revving for some teens today and they were losing it. Like cool car and all but way overblown these days

>>721412474
Got no love for the mk1?

>>721412474
crx with a k24 kinsler 67mm itb asp hearder 4piston 156 head 6spd ppg box ect

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Best ride on here, hands down

>>721412715
nice man, how much power?

>>721412621
4piston, the k24 is a 4 pot, the fuck you mean?

>>721412814
lmao, a company called 4piston racing, they make some of the best heads in the industry for k series race motors, can't believe im even talking about this on /b/

>>721412925
ngl the lack of commas fucked me up there
but like the other guy said, how much do you reckon it makes?

>>721413070
what makes? a k27 making around 500hp NA atm full race prepped $20k drag motor reving to 11k rpm 106 stroke

>>721413238
okay since ya said k27 its definitely hella stroked, but does that have any effect on how high it can rev?

>>721413386
yeah piston speeds get crazy with 106 stroke at 11k rpm, but drag racers don't care, they just rebuild the motors frequently

Early 2000s srt4. Dodge also came out with a minivan in 91-92 that had a turbo 4 cylinder 5 speed.

>>721414033
not a bad bit of gear tbh, not on a dc2r level though

>>721412227
>"premium brand"
>not understanding quotes
is english your first language?

>>721414135
What can I say, I'm partial to mopar's. Never got into the JDM scene

>>721412767
1000 internets, but thats on premium fuel

>>721414533
nothing wrong with mopar, do you watch road kill on youtube cuzz?

>>721414544
probably on e85

>>721414654
Negative, worth a watch?

>>721412767
over 9000hp

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>>721407893
Fuck you and your 'tard shit. Awd, fwd, then rwd.

>>721414461
I think he meant acura was/is shit and shouldnt be considered "premium" in any sense

>>721414743
>721414743
Mate, if you are a car fan, def watch, its funny, informative and lot of it revolves around mopar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSB2_428P2w

random vid i pulled of YouTube, they got like 60 episodes, watch them bro, i dont even like use muscle that much but ive watched every single 60 episodes

>>721414765
I agree whole hardheartedly srs

>>721414765
awd is for faggots

>>721415052
awd drive is for faggots

>>721414718
>>721414544
Custom blend of memes, troll pix, and trap photos

>>721414763
thought so mate

>>721415061
and people who think it makes their car safer

>>721415105
maybe pure meth

>>721415006
Thanks for the heads up, got tagged for future viewing

>>721415130
thank you. jesus christ too much awd meme for one day

>>721415130
roll cage, 5 point harness and a helmet makes a car safer

>>721415236

serious man, if you like cars you will love these guys, motortrend channel in general

>>721415202
That goes in the driver

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>>721407893
The minivan versions are fucking sweet too.

>>721415243
plus all the companies who say awd when they really only mean 4wd, and they say that the car can go anywhere
>>721415270
roll cage meeting appropriate certifications, genuine 5 point and a decent helmet make the driver safer, but not necessarily the car

>>721415435
minivan versions of what?

>>721415431
hahahaheheheheheh yes
exactly

>>721415446
This

>>721415446
>claim ultimate grip
>have a fucking open diff on both axles

>>721415446
yes you are obviously a car guy, you are right

>>721415562
lmfaooo yes

>>721412557
Mk1 didn't come in GTI

>>721415634
never claimed it did, but if youre getting any old golf you arent getting one for its speed/acceleration

>>721415742
exacty, youre buying for the feel and the excitement

>>721415089
awd is fun. I'm not talking about the awd sticker on the shit for soccer moms.

>>721415825
awd subbie sti with 400hp is fun, you can't deny that

>>721415810
apparently the scirocco is even more of a "drivers" car

SRT4 BOIiiiiiii111

>>721416028
BRO I HAVE SEEN AN SRT4 RUN ONCE!!

>>721416086
yo where was it running?

>>721416259
autozone

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>>721411138
mah nigga
>pic related, not mine but I have one.

>>721416313
>721416313
sick

>>721416313
probably going to go buy an "exhaust"

>>721416086
>>721416259
>>721416313
And by run he means being pushed by 20 mexicans.

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>>721407893
Nice thumbnail OP.

And yes, FWD is terminally gay.

Here is the sickest FWD car ever made. 8 accidents, headers and exhaust fully rusted out, metal on metal brakes and a spray painted garbage can lid jammed into a rusted out quarter panel.

But it never failed to run.

>>721416426
evry1 knos open dump is only gud exhaust

>>721416455
come on man, it's not that powerful, its more like 10 mexicans

>>721416540
open headers is cheaper tho, an srt guy would just buy a big ass muffler tho

>>721416564
You're right.
I was underestimating the mexicans.

Pretty soon, you won't see any srt4's running

>>721416674
FIGHT THE WALL SAVE THE SRT4's!!!

>>721416788
Rip in peace, no one really cares about srt 4s

>>721416788
I wish /o/ was still like this.

Good thread.

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>>721407893

>>721417069
looks great, if it was only rwd (totally contradictory to the thread i know)

>>721417069
busso v6, hell yeah

>>721417142
>looks great, if it was only rwd
Yeah it sucks, could be said of 50% of the cars on the road now, shit like the Focus, especially the 5cyl version.

>>721417220 Yeah I know man, Alfas always have a soft spot in my heart

>>721417220
to be fair, rwd hatches dont seem to sell well

>>721417321
I'm keen af for the Giulia Quadrifoglio

>>721417334
This is true but the Focus handles like a motherfucker as a fwd, could be impressive as a rwd.

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>>721407893
posting my old cars 'cause I'm old and drunk

>>721407893
>>721408115

>Driving tin cans with shitty interiors

>>721417372
same, what a machine

>>721417439
those were front engine aye?

>>721417489
3l I4 T, front engine, rear drive, lot of car for the money these days if you can be bothered maintaining one.

>>721417424
to be fair, the new ones dont handle as bad as the old ones do, something about the front diff clears up the understeer and torque steer

>>721417615
seen a couple cheap ones online, but they dont seem to sell, good power for a 3l turbo?

>>721417618
Sorry I meant I like the way they handle, sure you can't feed it mid corner but such is the nature of FWD and horsepower, in terms of sheer cornering grip they were impressive as fuck.

>>721417717
Driving a solid fwd car fast is a nice feeling, better than driving a rwd because you can really feel the limit without driving like a dickhead

>>721417685
By todays standards, not really but that can be rectified.

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>>721407893
>>current year not driving one of these
get your shit togeather

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>>721407893
VW Corrado.

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>>721417615
>>721417489
>>721417685

You can get a decent 951 (944 Turbo) for ~$12-15K now. About as fast as the contemporary 911 of the day, but easily made faster with a $300 chip and shim. Handled way better too. 400HP on a 2,800 lb. car is fun.

Like all Porsches it was built like a tank and they rarely break. But when they do repair cost is insane.

>>721418082
up to 250hp for a a 3l turbo, thats not great, but its not horrible i guess

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>>721418300
>Pro-tip: young women have zero idea which Porsches are expensive. To them, a 924 is pretty much the same as a 911 Turbo.

>>721418300
I've seen like 2 for $8k Nz which is cheap af
dont know how reliable theyd be for that amount of money

>>721418687
Yeah afaik the 3l versions were a bit heavier too, like most Porsches the one to go for is the S model.

Srt4

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>>721407893
I've always preferred the US one front end. These things here are like unicorns
>>721412474
Nice m8
>>721415130
Damn marketing
>>721415435
What's its name? This made me curious
>>721416535
Some love for good ol' shitbox
>>721417069
>mio negro

>pic related
Always loved this thing and still is one of my favourite cars. Its setup wasn't exactly track oriented like Integra's one, it was mora a grand tourer.

>>721418978
Theres something about the way 5cylinders sound though, both the Fiat 20v and the Focus/Volvo turbo'd 5 have a nice warble.

>>721418978
It's a Dodge Omni GLH-S

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>>721418687
944 Turbos had 225 to 250 from the factory.

Getting 350+ HP out of these motors was/is trivial and fairly reliable. Which is why everyone did just that back - so most of these cars are tired now.

But the handling of these cars is truly epic.

>>721419219
I think I might have to sell my shitbox and get one now.

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>>721418761
If it is a 944 TURBO, then it has tons of potential. Fix up the motor to 400HP. Put in a 'vette motor (not all that hard and may be lighter).

But a cheap Porsche is going to be expensive unless you're a wrench wizard and have access to parts.

>tl;dr fantastic project car, no longer a viable daily driver at that price

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Fwd suck unless your doing togue runs

The new civic type r i saw at sema

>>721419545
getting a 'vette motor isn't gonna be worth it because theyre crazy expensive over here, not a wrench wizard but i've been a backyard mechanic for a solid 10 years so im sure i could make do
not planning on making it a daily, more like a weekend car to hoon in

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>>721419355
I sold this car 20 years ago and still miss it. The amount of pussy this machine gathered towards me filled a a Fort Knox spank bank.

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This is a bit of a weird one, the Alfasud Sprint.
>900kg
>1700cc boxer 4, twin carby 120hp
I've raced with two of these which compete regularly in my state, they comfortably stay with 240/260/280z's, Alfa GTV 6's, Alfa 105 1750/2000s, Escorts and 70's 911's and even some of the bigger V8 stuff. They're outclassed in grunt terms by all of these but the cornering speed they hold is incredible.

>>721419754
Where are ya?

>>721419977
id imagine that the low weight plus some sticky tyres helps

>>721420028
New Zealand, id probably be able to build a 600hp skyline and get the 944 turbo for cheaper than just buying a vette motor

>>721420112
Low weight and low centre of gravity but all the cars that compete are running R spec Yokos, they're all fairly highly developed, including the Sprints. I just find it interesting because people get excited about Coopers but these two Sprints leave all the Mini's for dead and run in a higher class.

>>721420194
LS1's are cheap as chips in Aus, there was a time when ACDelco were doing long motors for 4.5k, it's funny NZ being so close but car availability and use is so different between the two.

>>721420383
i saw a non ls7 454 being sold for 16k so i cant imagine id get a decent one for cheap

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>>721419754
Not sure where you are, but there are kits put pretty much any small block Chevy in a 944T (951 to Porsche people - it's the internal code number for the car).

It's the weird shit that will drive you bankrupt: replacing the torque tube; 2-pole air-conditioner switch that requires a complete dashboard PC board; that weird power window travel switch; that brittle radiator overflow tank.

All that said, a great project car. Elbow-grease equity potential is excellent.

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>>721417439
>>721418300
>>721419219
>>721419545
Nice car man, it's always good to see people appreciation for their things

>>721419142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBF7kVWZ--0

>>721419148
thanks man

>>721419977
they're good ones but those well taken care are increasingly less

>>721420688
overflow/expansion tanks legit suck balls, they break in like almost every euro car before the 90s

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>>721420837
>they break in like almost every car before the 90s
fixed

>>721421085
thanks

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SAAB 9-3 Viggen

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>>721419754
>>721420688
>>721420194

The best value in Porsches today is an early 997 911 Carrera (2005~2009). Relatively cheap at the moment and built like a Panther tank.

Porsche makes Mercedes build quality look pathetic - I've owned multiple examples of both makes.

>>721421324
sadly thats not the same in NZ dude

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>>721421250
Ohh good choice anon, I remember reading when they were released they were one of the quickest accelerating cars in gear, around.

Another oddball one.
>Mitsi Magna Ralliart
>180kw/245hp 333nm 3.5 v6
Ran on pump fuel and could match any sedan of it's price bracket pretty comfortably, seen plenty of stock ones run a 14.5s 1/4. Had LSD too which was uncommon in FWD at the time and wasn't too shabby in the twisties.

>>721421324
>Porsche makes Mercedes build quality look pathetic
Mercedes build quality is pretty pathetic these days, I work on the fucking things regularly, never had the luck to touch a Porsche though.

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>>721421324
>>721420837
>>721420702

My brother bought this SL550, a 2013 or 2014 I think. Nicely made and boring as fuck. I'd rather drive a Miata.

>>721421324
>>721421546
>Mercedes build quality is pretty pathetic these days
poor tier ones of course are

>>721421509
>the rice is strong with this one

>>721421942
Other than the wheels that car is stock externally.

>>721421942
Every GL/ML I've touched has been pretty rubbish anon, C class, I'm still trying to work out how they justify the price.

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>>721421546
>>721421942

I had this AMG C55 for a while and should have kept it; traded up for an E55 which was a disaster.

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>>721422175
I would argue this hatch would take the sickest fwd hatch bracket if we're talking early ones, fair bit quicker.

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>>721421942
>>721422390
>>721421324
>>721420702

911 is the best car. I've driven many of the contenders.

>>721422390
I've never worked on an AMG but I would hope like M cars that AMG worked their magic on most aspects of the car.

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what do you think of this car OP?

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>>721422498
AMG is mostly MOAR motor. But most Mercedes products are a definite cut above BMW.

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>>721408008

>rwd a best.

Like you stupid shit could explain the dynamics behind that. If you could you'd know that it's bullshit. Unless you drive a 400 PS race car on an actually racing track. And especially in 70 mph max 'murrica you can stick that RWD up your ass.

>>721422527
Heh, I've actually been in one of those when I was younger, it was a company car where my old man worked, guy gave it to them when he didn't want to repair it, it was generally called the skittle(Like an M&M)

Even with the turbo it wasn't exactly a fireball.

>>721421509
here in NZ those galant and legnums are "nigger cars". same with subaru forrester and honda odyssey. most are cheap and trashed, only driven by maori and polys.

>>721416407
i love my first gen 4 afe dove it for 4 years reguraly drive 90 - 100 mph shes still got 1st 2nd and 5th motor runs like the day i bought it

>>721422683
wtf is this abomination?

>>721422455
sure I prefer the golf for its build quality though. had one that ran like a clock in any temperature despite being 25 years old

>>721422390
Nice, 203 55s are hard to come by

>>721422694
It's not a Galant, it's a Magna, made in Aus and sold in Japan as a Diamante.

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>>721422498
>>721422618

I have this 335i 'vert at the moment. Very nicely made if not MB or Porsche quality. The retractable top is a marvel.

But the engine. Rated 300HP, probably closer to 350 in reality. Runs like a sewing machine. Smooth as fuck. ~5 second zero to 60. AND FUCKING THROTTLE TIP-IN LAG KILLS THE CAR.

Whoever designed the throttle on this car deserves a gruesome, painful and slow death. It truly is that bad.

>>721422683
what if i want to drift on the road? thats why rwd is best.

>>721423031
well you shouldn't be drifting on public roads anon

>>721423018
Any way to flash out the throttle delay?

>>721422952
>Diamante
yeah sorry forgot the name. most of the time i see them, half the letters are missing. vr4 is cool though.

>>721423071
at night when the roads are empty i see no issue.

>>721423149
>vr4 is cool though.
Not the same car though, the Magna is a fair bit bigger than the Galant, different engines etc and yes the Magna always was cheap, cheap to buy, cheap to run.

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>>721423018
My 911 is many orders of magnitude more fun than the 335. The 911 scalpel...the BMW is a dull butter knife that makes me want to vomit.

>>721423031
drifting is so easy with a fwd, you can do it without even trying

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>>721422042
about Mitsu:
i know, it's one of those riced out factory cars, same as trd celica. To me even the evo VI looks classier and clean compared to this: those front bumper and sideskirts...

about Merc:
Most of their sales are models quoted above
yeah, to get some good things you have to chosse top tier models. Nowadays merc are built and sold to wannabe parvenue. They only need a tri-star to show off, so merc don't have the need to make (and waste money on) good materials nor deal to much with build quality.

>>721422455
Dubs confirm. Nice taste

>>721422527

>>721422694
also altezzas and legacys are nigger cars
civics and pulsars are also pajeet cars

>>721423284
But at the end of the day, it's just a squashed VW beetle. No one cares.

>>721423293
ive done it. chuck burners in the rear and go hit up gravel roads. rip hand brake and pendulum it. Still not as fun as a proper car though.

>>721423425
I would buy an NA 911 over a 135/335 any day of the week tbh.

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>>721423089
I've tried everything, flashes, sprintboost, etc. Apparently it is considered normal for their fucked up e-wire butterfly valves.

BMW can suck my left nut. Buy a Porsche.

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>>721423425
You know nothing of cars. Fuck off pleb.

>>721423537
Well that sucks.

>>721423405
yep. I actually had an Altezza RS200 before they were nigger cars, makes me a little sad to see. Really nice balanced sedan. not fast, but quick and joyful to drive. Kinda like a Honda civic would have been if they made them rear wheel drive.

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>>721423637
Yeah it does.

My old MR2 was more fun tbh. Kinda pussy looking tho.

>>721423797
NA or Z?

>>721423476
I love the feel, one foot on the gas the other on the clutch,never having to touch the brake, hand moving qruickly from the gear shifter to the e-brake. I use to race an old 80s Z-24 on the back streets then at the local track, I miss that car.

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>>721423797
I had a Stealth for a while. A complete pile of junk. Ugh

>>721417069
I saw one of these yesterday, sounded awesome

Fwd is epic in a good chassis like the dc2 ek9 ch1 . I do track days in my ATR and it is miles faster than rwd with the same power . At the end of the day it really doesn't matter. The only people who make a fuss are wannabe drifters or forza fags

>>721423964
Yeah they have a spectacular note and a surprisingly deep idle, hate it when people rice the exhaust though.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BlhWcv_Rc

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>>721423836
NA.

I drove a supercharged MR2 for a while but it wheezed and popped so much that I was thankful to get back to a normally aspirated machine.

Come to think of it, NA is always better than blown. Unless you want to tune and have your car blow up in a year.

>>721424286
I've heard that the ZE is a bit of a cunt to work on in the mr2 also.

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>>721424251
>>721423964

Yeah, that italian motor is sure to operate correctly for many yards.

I agree that they sure do sound great.

>>721424509
>Yeah, that italian motor is sure to operate correctly for many yards.

>Believing car memes

The Bussone V6 was around for ~3 decades, if it was inherently fragile I'm damn sure it would have shown up in that time.

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ye

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>>721424334
I'm old and have owned a lot of fast cars and have driven a lot more fast cars that my buddies owned. Porches, Mercs, BMW M-cars, all manner of Jap cars, 700hp nitrous ricers, fast bikes and a few Ferraris (never owned a Ferrari though).

The absolute most fun car for the money is the Miata. Hands down. Not even close. Faggots who call them pussy cars don't know how to drive for fun.

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Toyota Sera

>>721424959
Driven one of the new MX5's or one of the BRZ/86's? Just wondering if they capture old sportscar fun or if they still feel like modern shopping trolleys.

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>>721424610
Of course, Alfa Romeo engines are noted for their robustness and longevity.

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>>721425139
If you'd seen inside just one, then you'd realise how uninformed you sound.

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>>721425115
I've driven the latest Miatas many times. It will be my next car purchase. Fucking excellent.

I've driven the subu / toyata sports things a couple of times. Quite nice - a serious contender if I was young and needed a coupe.

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>>721425243
Sure thing buddy. Everyone knows Fiat engines are robust.

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>>721425243
Do you prefer a Porsche motor or a Fiat motor for reliability?

Do tell.

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>>721425243
Please go on about how uninformed I am about the relative reliability of Italian engines.

>>721425478
Funny you mention FIAT, manufacturers of one of the strongest 4 cylinders around, if you get a chance have a look inside a FIAT twin cam, then compare it to something like a 4age or an EJ20.

>>721425579
That's clever isn't it, let's compare a swiss to a casio

>>721425743
Work on one, it's pretty clear you haven't.

>>721425765
So you're saying fiat makes a better engine than the 4age?

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>>721425765
Sounds like you work on a lot of Fiat engines.

>>721425853
The 4age is a copy of the Ford BDA and yes the FIAT twin cam is inherently stronger, I've worked on both and have raced with a FIAT twin cam and against 4age's(and numerous other 4cylinders) for years.

>>721425978
I work on engines for a living and a hobby.

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>>721425765
So Fiat is more reliable than Porsche.

Good job.

>>721426185
>Reading comprehension - the post

As I said earlier, I've never touched a Porsche, or operated one, although I have raced against a few 911's and 356's, so I wouldn't know what they were like for reliability. I just found the thought of comparing a budget manufacturer to a generally high end manufacturer pretty amusing.

>>721424959
What do you think about the MX-4?
I got kinda into cars with pop-up headlamps.
I would be glad if you could give me any advice about affordable cars, which arent junk nowadays.

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>>721407893
You lost me at "sickest"...........

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>>721426744

>>721426744
>into pop up headlamps
This is precisely why you're a faggot.

Normal people buy an MX5 for fun.