fastest RWD ever made
When it comes to fwd it's literally just looks for me.
Cause I'm gonna change the car so much performance doesn't matter. Only reason I'd get fwd.
Has to be 5th gen prelude btw. Preferably rhd.
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i've driven a ep3 type r which kinda sucked because it was turboed cos the owner is a dumb fuck.
the legit only fwd car i have liked is the renault 21 turbo, not an amazing car but it handles real well and accelerates hard for a fwd car from the 80s
What are you saying? I still have my 99' camry from highschool and barely do maintenance on it other than oil change every 5000 miles. Now it's my younger brothers car and we beat the hell out of it. Over 250k miles. No issues whatsoever.
prolly watched the FNF movies too much as kids and think they know how to drive fast, prolly the same cunts who try to drift their ff cars with the plates under the rear wheels
Maybe if you're only comparing 90's cars, but I honestly don't think even then. I owned a '06 GTi fir three years and there's no way the integra was funner than that. And my GTi wasn't even at the top of the fwd totem pole, then or now.
Sold it for a 350z for that rwd
like jap cars are cool as hell, but theyre so blown out of proportion these days, like I saw a fucking pink GTR revving for some teens today and they were losing it. Like cool car and all but way overblown these days
Fuck you and your 'tard shit. Awd, fwd, then rwd.
Mate, if you are a car fan, def watch, its funny, informative and lot of it revolves around mopar:
random vid i pulled of YouTube, they got like 60 episodes, watch them bro, i dont even like use muscle that much but ive watched every single 60 episodes
The minivan versions are fucking sweet too.
plus all the companies who say awd when they really only mean 4wd, and they say that the car can go anywhere
roll cage meeting appropriate certifications, genuine 5 point and a decent helmet make the driver safer, but not necessarily the car
>pic related, not mine but I have one.
Nice thumbnail OP.
And yes, FWD is terminally gay.
Here is the sickest FWD car ever made. 8 accidents, headers and exhaust fully rusted out, metal on metal brakes and a spray painted garbage can lid jammed into a rusted out quarter panel.
But it never failed to run.
posting my old cars 'cause I'm old and drunk
Sorry I meant I like the way they handle, sure you can't feed it mid corner but such is the nature of FWD and horsepower, in terms of sheer cornering grip they were impressive as fuck.
>>current year not driving one of these
get your shit togeather
You can get a decent 951 (944 Turbo) for ~$12-15K now. About as fast as the contemporary 911 of the day, but easily made faster with a $300 chip and shim. Handled way better too. 400HP on a 2,800 lb. car is fun.
Like all Porsches it was built like a tank and they rarely break. But when they do repair cost is insane.
>Pro-tip: young women have zero idea which Porsches are expensive. To them, a 924 is pretty much the same as a 911 Turbo.
I've always preferred the US one front end. These things here are like unicorns
What's its name? This made me curious
Some love for good ol' shitbox
Always loved this thing and still is one of my favourite cars. Its setup wasn't exactly track oriented like Integra's one, it was mora a grand tourer.
944 Turbos had 225 to 250 from the factory.
Getting 350+ HP out of these motors was/is trivial and fairly reliable. Which is why everyone did just that back - so most of these cars are tired now.
But the handling of these cars is truly epic.
If it is a 944 TURBO, then it has tons of potential. Fix up the motor to 400HP. Put in a 'vette motor (not all that hard and may be lighter).
But a cheap Porsche is going to be expensive unless you're a wrench wizard and have access to parts.
>tl;dr fantastic project car, no longer a viable daily driver at that price
Fwd suck unless your doing togue runs
The new civic type r i saw at sema
getting a 'vette motor isn't gonna be worth it because theyre crazy expensive over here, not a wrench wizard but i've been a backyard mechanic for a solid 10 years so im sure i could make do
not planning on making it a daily, more like a weekend car to hoon in
I sold this car 20 years ago and still miss it. The amount of pussy this machine gathered towards me filled a a Fort Knox spank bank.
This is a bit of a weird one, the Alfasud Sprint.
>1700cc boxer 4, twin carby 120hp
I've raced with two of these which compete regularly in my state, they comfortably stay with 240/260/280z's, Alfa GTV 6's, Alfa 105 1750/2000s, Escorts and 70's 911's and even some of the bigger V8 stuff. They're outclassed in grunt terms by all of these but the cornering speed they hold is incredible.
Low weight and low centre of gravity but all the cars that compete are running R spec Yokos, they're all fairly highly developed, including the Sprints. I just find it interesting because people get excited about Coopers but these two Sprints leave all the Mini's for dead and run in a higher class.
LS1's are cheap as chips in Aus, there was a time when ACDelco were doing long motors for 4.5k, it's funny NZ being so close but car availability and use is so different between the two.
Not sure where you are, but there are kits put pretty much any small block Chevy in a 944T (951 to Porsche people - it's the internal code number for the car).
It's the weird shit that will drive you bankrupt: replacing the torque tube; 2-pole air-conditioner switch that requires a complete dashboard PC board; that weird power window travel switch; that brittle radiator overflow tank.
All that said, a great project car. Elbow-grease equity potential is excellent.
Nice car man, it's always good to see people appreciation for their things
they're good ones but those well taken care are increasingly less
>they break in like almost every car before the 90s
The best value in Porsches today is an early 997 911 Carrera (2005~2009). Relatively cheap at the moment and built like a Panther tank.
Porsche makes Mercedes build quality look pathetic - I've owned multiple examples of both makes.
Ohh good choice anon, I remember reading when they were released they were one of the quickest accelerating cars in gear, around.
Another oddball one.
>Mitsi Magna Ralliart
>180kw/245hp 333nm 3.5 v6
Ran on pump fuel and could match any sedan of it's price bracket pretty comfortably, seen plenty of stock ones run a 14.5s 1/4. Had LSD too which was uncommon in FWD at the time and wasn't too shabby in the twisties.
>Porsche makes Mercedes build quality look pathetic
Mercedes build quality is pretty pathetic these days, I work on the fucking things regularly, never had the luck to touch a Porsche though.
My brother bought this SL550, a 2013 or 2014 I think. Nicely made and boring as fuck. I'd rather drive a Miata.
Other than the wheels that car is stock externally.
Every GL/ML I've touched has been pretty rubbish anon, C class, I'm still trying to work out how they justify the price.
I had this AMG C55 for a while and should have kept it; traded up for an E55 which was a disaster.
I would argue this hatch would take the sickest fwd hatch bracket if we're talking early ones, fair bit quicker.
911 is the best car. I've driven many of the contenders.
what do you think of this car OP?
AMG is mostly MOAR motor. But most Mercedes products are a definite cut above BMW.
>rwd a best.
Like you stupid shit could explain the dynamics behind that. If you could you'd know that it's bullshit. Unless you drive a 400 PS race car on an actually racing track. And especially in 70 mph max 'murrica you can stick that RWD up your ass.
Heh, I've actually been in one of those when I was younger, it was a company car where my old man worked, guy gave it to them when he didn't want to repair it, it was generally called the skittle(Like an M&M)
Even with the turbo it wasn't exactly a fireball.
I have this 335i 'vert at the moment. Very nicely made if not MB or Porsche quality. The retractable top is a marvel.
But the engine. Rated 300HP, probably closer to 350 in reality. Runs like a sewing machine. Smooth as fuck. ~5 second zero to 60. AND FUCKING THROTTLE TIP-IN LAG KILLS THE CAR.
Whoever designed the throttle on this car deserves a gruesome, painful and slow death. It truly is that bad.
>vr4 is cool though.
Not the same car though, the Magna is a fair bit bigger than the Galant, different engines etc and yes the Magna always was cheap, cheap to buy, cheap to run.
My 911 is many orders of magnitude more fun than the 335. The 911 scalpel...the BMW is a dull butter knife that makes me want to vomit.
i know, it's one of those riced out factory cars, same as trd celica. To me even the evo VI looks classier and clean compared to this: those front bumper and sideskirts...
Most of their sales are models quoted above
yeah, to get some good things you have to chosse top tier models. Nowadays merc are built and sold to wannabe parvenue. They only need a tri-star to show off, so merc don't have the need to make (and waste money on) good materials nor deal to much with build quality.
Dubs confirm. Nice taste
I've tried everything, flashes, sprintboost, etc. Apparently it is considered normal for their fucked up e-wire butterfly valves.
BMW can suck my left nut. Buy a Porsche.
yep. I actually had an Altezza RS200 before they were nigger cars, makes me a little sad to see. Really nice balanced sedan. not fast, but quick and joyful to drive. Kinda like a Honda civic would have been if they made them rear wheel drive.
Yeah it does.
My old MR2 was more fun tbh. Kinda pussy looking tho.
I love the feel, one foot on the gas the other on the clutch,never having to touch the brake, hand moving qruickly from the gear shifter to the e-brake. I use to race an old 80s Z-24 on the back streets then at the local track, I miss that car.
I had a Stealth for a while. A complete pile of junk. Ugh
Fwd is epic in a good chassis like the dc2 ek9 ch1 . I do track days in my ATR and it is miles faster than rwd with the same power . At the end of the day it really doesn't matter. The only people who make a fuss are wannabe drifters or forza fags
I drove a supercharged MR2 for a while but it wheezed and popped so much that I was thankful to get back to a normally aspirated machine.
Come to think of it, NA is always better than blown. Unless you want to tune and have your car blow up in a year.
Yeah, that italian motor is sure to operate correctly for many yards.
I agree that they sure do sound great.
>Yeah, that italian motor is sure to operate correctly for many yards.
>Believing car memes
The Bussone V6 was around for ~3 decades, if it was inherently fragile I'm damn sure it would have shown up in that time.
I'm old and have owned a lot of fast cars and have driven a lot more fast cars that my buddies owned. Porches, Mercs, BMW M-cars, all manner of Jap cars, 700hp nitrous ricers, fast bikes and a few Ferraris (never owned a Ferrari though).
The absolute most fun car for the money is the Miata. Hands down. Not even close. Faggots who call them pussy cars don't know how to drive for fun.
Of course, Alfa Romeo engines are noted for their robustness and longevity.
I've driven the latest Miatas many times. It will be my next car purchase. Fucking excellent.
I've driven the subu / toyata sports things a couple of times. Quite nice - a serious contender if I was young and needed a coupe.
Sure thing buddy. Everyone knows Fiat engines are robust.
Do you prefer a Porsche motor or a Fiat motor for reliability?
Please go on about how uninformed I am about the relative reliability of Italian engines.
Funny you mention FIAT, manufacturers of one of the strongest 4 cylinders around, if you get a chance have a look inside a FIAT twin cam, then compare it to something like a 4age or an EJ20.
That's clever isn't it, let's compare a swiss to a casio
Work on one, it's pretty clear you haven't.
Sounds like you work on a lot of Fiat engines.
The 4age is a copy of the Ford BDA and yes the FIAT twin cam is inherently stronger, I've worked on both and have raced with a FIAT twin cam and against 4age's(and numerous other 4cylinders) for years.
So Fiat is more reliable than Porsche.
>Reading comprehension - the post
As I said earlier, I've never touched a Porsche, or operated one, although I have raced against a few 911's and 356's, so I wouldn't know what they were like for reliability. I just found the thought of comparing a budget manufacturer to a generally high end manufacturer pretty amusing.
What do you think about the MX-4?
I got kinda into cars with pop-up headlamps.
I would be glad if you could give me any advice about affordable cars, which arent junk nowadays.