It genuinely fascinates me how Americans are convinced they live in the best country in the world. I have lived in Oklahoma for 8 months now and these people live their country to the point that they do not have passports. A majority of the country has never been international they have no idea how the rest of the world lives. It's pretty shocking considering the lack of culture. What is your culture America? Is it Beyonce having twins and five guys? what do you offer to the world except for an army?
>>721244379 >a majority of the country has never been international
>OP "goes international", comes to America and visits Oklahoma of all states
>What do you offer the world except an Army?
Great job implying you would even have a culture still if not for our Army.
We export our culture all the time in music, TV shows, movies, fashion, food. I can guarantee you can name at least 10 American movies, 5 TV shows, probably 10 of our musicians. You know how many foreign TV shows most Americans can probably name? Maybe 1. This has nothing to do with "not traveling" and has everything to do with you and whatever "culture" you think you have being inconsequential and having no influence whatsoever.
Tell us, champ, what "great country" do you hail from? Our military has likely done something in the past 50 years to prevent your entire population from being genocided. :^)
Still the Greatest. Still the only Superpower in the world. Stay jealous. :^)
>>721244817 they want to come to america because they can hide there. "visit" your uncle in new york and settle in nevada, no questions asked. So came 10 millions and never left. how is that a good thing. trumps new cabinet thinks its a bad one!
>>721244379 Am American. Americans thinking they live in the best country in the world is a meme. The truth is we are too busy with our pleasantries to give a shit. Sure we blow fire into the sky once a year in the name of America, but if you don't want your mom to die then you have to reply to this post.
Jazz, Rock, and all kinds of great music come from America. Hollywood, while mostly shitty for most of it's history, comes from American and is pretty important to world culture. That's just off the top of my head. The fk kind of question is "What is American culture?"
the other day I was talking to a trump supporter. the only trump supporter I've ever talked to.
the topic of Mexico came up and this guy literally told me that he thought that Mexico was still a colony owned by the royal Spanish family, you know, the guys that went there hundreds of years ago and killed the aztec empire. he also said that, apparently, the royal family goes around beheading mexicans that dont convert to catholicism.
this is the type of person that voted for trump. the type of person that refers to america as the greatest contry of the world.
>>721244817 Italy has some of the most beautiful places on the planet to live and a lot of people love to move there same goes for Norway. Norway is a country with a higher standard of living than America
>>721244379 I don't agree with OP, because i think america does have a culture. The big problem is that the impression we get from almost everywhere (including /b/) is taht most americans are uncultured. That´sdifferent than saying "america doesn't have A culture". It has. it´s just that people in general are uncultured.
>>721244379 "I hate America and its lack of culture so much I moved there."
Sorry you chose Oklahoma. In the meantime, like the rest of the world- enjoy our Movies, Shows, Music, Video Games, Literature... if you want culture I'm sure you can round up a faggot and have him take you to some historic homes, the theater, or an art museum or something like that.
In case you missed, it, fag, the whole point of America is individualism, so we don't have some mass imposed "culture". We have individualism. And since Americans don't have some mass bullshit culture to hide behind, the plebs all look like the fools they are, but nobody ever gave a shit about beyonce, and the fact that you bring her up shows how disconnected you are with how shit works.
America is about whatever the fuck you want to do. It's every culture all together. It's 300 million independent little cultures working together or pissing in each others cornflakes.
>>721244379 soooo....where you from again, OP? It always makes me laugh when europoors make these threads then are literally too ashamed to name their home country on an anonymous fillipino trout-fishing forum kek
>>721246984 No, I noticed he said "music". But when he says "you can name 10 american movies, 5 american tv shows, 10 of our musicians", it seems pretty clear that he is making a reference to the mass appeal and diffusion of the american shitstorm that envelops the world. I think he could've pointed some other american things, more representative of he american culture than the rfeaking 5 tv shows and 10 musicians and 10 movies, that is all.
>>721246799 That's not the point. If you understood the core idea of what I was trying to convey, you wouldn't be attacking me. I'm merely explaining that there can be more retards than smarter individuals and still average out to 100 IQ. This was claimed to be impossible here: >>721246179 Nowhere did I make any claim about the quality or usefulness of IQ testing. Learn to differentiate between writing styles and read the entire chain to avoid this in the future.
>>721247240 It's weird that there's Brittish kids faking American accents. They also have to fake accents to sound like they're from other parts of the UK to increase their chances of being hired. I get sounded like a hick is frowned on, but having to change your accent to get a job seems pretty sad.
>>721244379 Freedom is our culture. everybody is different and everybody gets to do what they want.
Instead of everybody just doing the same thing as each other. We all do what we want to how we want to. religion, politics, business, fashion, entertainment, art, food, it's all parts from every culture in the world and the freedom to mux and match is the American way.
That being said. This country is a heaping pile of shit right now because of all the retards (alt-righters and pc liberals) and a pile of shit president.
I get that it's easy to hate america because our government and military loves raping random countries for nothing. but the people here are just living day to day like everyone else, and most of us have enough to do. Americans don't concern themselves with other countries politics because: >1. We can't do anything about it >2. We have our own business to take care of
I watch Japanese cartoons, eat Mexican Italian food, Listen to Swedish music, use electronics made in China, drive a car engineered in the U.S.A , and watch porn made in Germany. It's a "melting pot" dude or like a tossed up salad.
>>721244379 To be fair most Americans don't have passports because anywhere in middle America that people would go is far away enough that it becomes expensive to travel. It isn't an hour drive to another country for most people.
Also, much of Canada is like America, and Mexico isn't the most desirable place to go. i'm not speaking for myself, since I live in Indy, but have family in Sweden that we visit every other year, and have had an internship in Korea.
Realistically, the drive to visit another country just ins't there. Most people don;t have a reason to leave, or don't have the monetary sustenance to do as such.
This isn't Europe. In many parts of Africa or even Asia, and few parts in Europe it is much the same demeanor as it is here, that the distance is just too far, and many people never venture out. I don't think this is a good reason to not like Americans.
>>721247453 You're full of fucking shit, in some places outside of America if you don't conform to their local Sharia Law or whatever isolated bullshit culture they have you're a pariah and socially exiled if not outright physically removed or harassed.
Imposing culture is the norm around the world, which is why you conformist plebs find America so difficult. It's because you chart your own course here. If you just go with the flow in America you're just another pleb, which is fine, too.
>>721247445 And you're still missing the point that IQ is a completely inconsequential metric of distinguishing "smarter individuals" from "retards." You clearly fall far to the left of the bell curve and didn't even bother to read the actual material. Kek.
>>721247722 >Imposing culture is the norm around the world you seriously think that, dont you? you seriously think that most places (expect the US) make you form part of their culture by force? through sheer violence?
its not just sharia, right? nono, most places in the world will force you to take part in their culture through violence, right?
Americans have no idea what it is to go to a completely different country they come out with shit like going from france to UK is like going from texas to calafornia if they knew how retarded that comment was they get themselves a passport and travel >travelling from texas to Cuba or Ecuador >is more like from France to UK gf fucking ameritards
>>721247524 >our government and military loves raping random countries for nothing
>we can't do anything about other countries politics
Pick one, faggot. I don't think half you idiots even know what you believe you're just betas on some self-hate schitck. Get fucking real. The US doesn't think it's superior, we ARE superior. We import goods from other countries and sign trade deals just so other countries don't starve to death or immigrate here. These are just facts.
>>721244379 well the internet you are communicating over is a product of our bloated military industrial complex so i guess what I'm saying is our army is pretty great. oh and we gave the world trump. You are welcome.
>>721247785 I already knew that. You've missed that point twice, now. Notice this is the first time I've made an assessment about IQ testing as a concept? You missing this is what leads you to believe I'm missing some irrelevant point about IQ testing being unreliable (which was not the subject I was discussing, again, I've said this already). I literally don't care what you think; I just hope no one else is making this mistake, too. Best of luck to your dumb ass.
>>721244379 ignorance is bliss i was raised like that even though i am german i feel like an american idiot my parents sufferd from the third reich they did not want us to have to deal with it therefore it was television entertainment all the way for us kids and chart music all had to be squeaky clean
>>721248246 >sources for arguments that only you think relevant For the third and final time: I was making a point about simple mathematics. You're making a mistake. I don't care about IQ nor was I making a claim about IQ. I made a claim about averages. That's it. I don't know why you think it's relevant to bring up the effectiveness of IQ testing at all. These are me: >>721246470 >>721247014 >>721247445 >>721247772 >>721248195 Hope this helps
For example; France has some of the most beautiful architecture, is renowned for its food, has picturesque landscapes.
The UK has the NHS, A language learnt the world over, a history of fighting on despite the odds, architecture etc.
Italy has its love of food, Art, structures and cultures involved in the development of the modern world.
Nippon has Anime and Samurai, the Bushaido Code, unique architecture.
Aus has a harsh landscape, where everything tries to kill you, where they get no water but still manage to live on, all while drinking tinnies of piss water and getting bitten by crocs.
You get the picture? All these countries, most countries, whilst being dumbly nationalistic all have things that they are proud to reveal to the rest of the world, all of which have some benefit, they all have character beyond skin deep.
I think the anons are questioning america's character. Character and culture go hand in hand. When more americans know the name Kim Kardashian than Citizen Kane.
You are home to many cultures but have little.
>>721247137 and the reason why we care about american politics is because the world is like a bed thats getting smaller, we're all in it, but when someone starts thrashing about taking up more room, or stealing the covers, ofc we care.
Just as you care about Europe or you wouldnt keep making threads about Eurocucks letting in too many muslims and immigrants.
>>721249399 >internet is an American invention Jesus Christ almighty DARPA would have it solely for the military if it weren't for the UK and France, you dirty, uneducated, and fucking retarded instance of pure idiocy. I'm an American and I'm fucking ashamed of you.
>>721249380 >99.6% of our country are just civilians. Except for the police, sherrifs and deputies, forest rangers, FBI, NSA, DHS, CIA and so on. Nett it all out and you're at the 1 in 10 that most despots like to be. Do you still have Air Marshalls?
>>721249900 >In the 1980s, research at CERN in Switzerland by British computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee resulted in the World Wide Web Did you even try? >interconnected computers, in general, were invented by the US government, yes The internet as you and I know it, however, was due to a collaborative effort between several countries; the educational and commercial networks originated in the countries I've mentioned.
I don't get this meme that Americans have no culture, are you telling me all the music, literature, arts, science, laws, history, etc... don't count for anything? What culture do we have then?
You know, old castles and funny clothes don't equal culture... also it's a huge country, with good and bad people.
They're allowed to think they live in the best country, I think my country is one of the best to live in as well, although I hate the ignorant dumbass politicians in Europe but really admire Americans love and willing to fight for freedom.
>>721244379 well... OP. why you are so surprised, to the point of faggotry? they are conservative country. more conservative than the Arab Emirates at some points. the most proper question you may ask yourself is why the fuck you care about? yes, they are faggots but you are a bigger faggot. why do you care? to show them that they are conservative hypocritical morons? they don't give a fuck about your opinion. do as they do. don't listen to their opinion, ether.
>>721246799 Anything to make niggers seem human whites and Asians have the highest IQs. They have the oldest most advance and stable civilizations. Nigs have mud and shit huts have sex with animals and eat each other. They have IQs of 70 we have IQs between 100 and 120 IQs matter. The whole of history modern and ancient prove these studies false.
>>721244817 True that, I'll drink to the great American landscape. You guys have everything in terms of geography. How many of the Americans truly know their country? In France, many of us have travelled the length and breadth of our country (again, it is Texas-sized, so rather easy), but what percentage of Americans travel cross-country?
I'm not talking about anything here, but the lack of passport having.
that's more likely due to the fact that the US is such a large territory that a passport isn't required for most people, because when we travel, it's between states.
how many Europeans have been out of Europe? the ratio as compared to how many Americans have been out of the states would probably be similar. Trade between nations in the EU is much more common and a necessity. there's plenty of international trade for the US, but that typically requires flights or lengthy boat rides. If I could hop on a train and be two or three nations over in less than half a day, I would be more likely to get a passport. when I live in Florida, and the average price of me escaping the country is near 1000$ or even more depending on the adventure, I'm less likely to need a passport, because I can't afford to leave the fucking country.
get some perspective. your initial assumption of why anybody does anything is not usually correct.
>>721244817 >emigrate to America and not to Italy or Norway.
emigrate means to leave one's country.
you can't emigrate to anything. you immigrate to a country. you emigrate from a country. I know it's a simple mistake, like the difference between effect and affect but come on.... everything else you said was spot on.
>>721252946 look, my dear derp pony. Europe is not a country. It's a continent. The administrative union was officially sign about 15 years before. So the "Europeans" are traveling on this continent countries and to the other continents countries including the New world from centuries. and the cost of this travels are with the same expensive price inside and outside the continent. so your excuse is a shit. Americans are just conservative people. They believe in god. And they go outside their country only to spread the god's will and freedom.
>>721246802 Everyone that says America is a 3rd world shithole, is basically crying about healthcare. That means they're probably weak genetic specimens that wouldn't have survived long enough to breed 100 years ago. And they are proud of this! They can't even exist without sponging off another. So sad. I guess all the foreign men died in WWII before reproducing.
also, you shouldn't speak in absolutes. they're easily disproven.
I can't speak towards who believes in god or not, because America has no majority. I suppose christianity is the prominent religion (even though it is full of little sects, which if gauged individually they would no longer be the prominent religion), but there are tons of atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Buddhists, etc because America is a country full of immigrants.
the only people that spread "god's will" any more are Jehovas witnesses and Mormons.
>>721254342 >And the fact Americans dont think of other countries surely goes to show how egocentric/uneducated/selfish they can be?
I think it's funny how many people bring this up. you know... I'm pretty sure most Europeans couldn't name more than 10 African nations, or any of the Islands that make up the Indonesian. why? because it's not a necessity in every day life. we love to cherry pick the worst examples for this shit, regardless.
>>721244379 We offer ideas and innovations. Most of the tech that comes out of China and Japan began in the US as ideas and plans that where sold to the Chinese and Japanese where they could be developed and made at much lower cost.
Why the Hell do people do this? It is so ridiculous to come to America, generalize everything about it, and publicly complain. My ancestors emigrated to America two generations ago and integrated with this culture that we supposedly don't have. They learned English and bled in our wars for an opportunity to be "part" of this culture and country. Not anyone else's opinion on my own thoughts matter, but I really don't like hearing some ass-head assert that some self-righteous, idiot-filled, culture-less land is what my family was willing to die for...and more importantly, to build a life for.
Americans don't generally know very much about the current state of other countries and it's mostly because it doesn't feel relevant to us. But at least ignoring things we don't understand isn't as obnoxious as making ignorant statements about a place and people you don't comprehend?
If anyone wants to understand America or Americans, why don't you try to ask sincerely and politely and try to have a conversation instead of making sweeping generalizations and trying to compare this place to places it can't be compared to? A good neighbor meets his neighbor at the front door and introduces himself. Within that allegory: starting a thread like this is the equivalent of claiming to know that same neighbor by judging his lawn from your window.
You can't go to one part of America and generalize this country is almost as big as the entire continent of europe. We don't need passports bc skip five states and you have a new culture and way of life already
America is still young. You guys sure had culture. Except you murdered them all out and acted like it was nothing. Your legacy dates back to pilgrims and vagrants. Who all came from european countries. You fought yourself free from their grasp, true you really fought for you freedom. But France did it first so who cares. You prance about boasting with your military strength which you guys sure have. But i have not seen a city as decrepit as detroit in my whole life. You boast with american history while you haven't even earned the right to call it history. You guys are still learning and it shows. You now have an orange running for president. Good luck with world war 3 hope you guys learn something from it.
Are you American? Because everyone else in the USA just calls this place America. Probably because between the continents of North and South America, only one country has "America" in its name. That would be...(wait for it) The United States of America. Nobody refers to anything in South America as just "America", it's just the way we have come to describe this place and is no different than any shortened version of a country's proper name being used for the sake of convenience. I have yet to hear a Brazilian refer to themselves as American when asked where they are from. I've heard foreigners bring this up before and I'm perplexed by how fucking stupid that argument is.
>>721255766 >Doesn't feel relevant to us We live with billions on this planet. And you say that one continental slab of earth deserves it all because you just don't feel the need to get involved with international affairs? How shallow are you people? If you want to really show me the true american values and culture then show me another lawn for once.
I legitimately don't understand what you're getting at. What do you mean? If this is going to be some attempt to point out how hypocritical or terrible Americans are because of Native American genocide, then that opens up a huge game of "Let's hold every citizen of their current nation accountable for everything that the various incarnations of their nation has done in its entire history until we realize that everyone has been someone else's bully at some point". That's a great game, but the indigenous people of America were mostly wiped out centuries before my family ever came here. It happened, but future generations could either choose to turn that bloody soil into a cemetery or a garden--I think it's pretty obvious which one was picked.
Did you miss that part where it's more obnoxious to judge people from afar and asserting your values onto them than trying to start a conversation? It's a lot worse to be smug and ignorant about something you don't understand than to admit that you don't understand it and therefore don't feel like you have the authority to judge it.
>>721244379 Oklahoma isn't exactly a hotbed of cultured individuals. The same can be said about any country really, small percentages of the population are able to experience travelling enough to see how the rest of the world lives.
I didn't say anything implying America's entitlement to the whole world and its billions of people. If you took that away from me talking about the how offensive and hypocritical it is to generalize a culture and people you don't understand then you have already made up your mind about something that you never really wanted to understand in the first place. You want to judge and belittle but not learn.
If an American tries to explain why we are proud, then we're selfish and egotistical right? If we don't explain, then we are idiots, right?
If an American says that we prefer to keep out of other people's business then we're ignorant and shallow right? But if we try to intervene in global politics we are still just idiots who feel entitled to do what we want in other countries, right?
Any person who is as dismissive and narrow as you are about America and its people is guilty of their own accusations.
>>721259823 How can you start a conversation when you just said that everyone outside america is irrelevant. That doesn't really show alot of respect towards us don't you think. Really weird when you claim to be wanting a normal conversation with your neighbour. And the authority to judge something is not with me. Well not only with me. The reason you guys are getting flack from other country's is because we collectively believe in what you guys show us. You're not gonna tell me that philadelphia is heaven on earth. We have footage, we have seen the slums of detroit. We know how shit your infrastructure is, broken roads across the continent. You can't deny what everyone can see. These things shape the outer image of a country but the moment we say something about it. we need to check if we have the authority to judge. Isn't that a little bit shallow?
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