https://www.politicalcompass.org/ let's see where /b/ stands.

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>>721066788

ITT: people who are mad about the /r/altright ban.

>>721066961
my bro

>>721066788
>implying i'm taking that test again
>bottom left corner
anyone not in the green is a colossal piece of shit and a failure as a human being.

>>721067972
thank you comrade

>>721067972
if you're in the green, you're probably a teen.

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>>721066788
Übermensch and atheist agnostic here, can anyone stereotype/analyze pic related? All positive and negative descriptions welcomed.

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>>721068322
Nope, 23 yr old Engineer.

If you aren't deep in the purple you are violating the NAP by supporting the immorality of the state

>>721068473
You're a centrist piece of shit

>>721068600
Damn lol. Well thanks

>>721067972
Once you start paying taxes, you will swing out of green in a hurry.
also
>Implying anon's one liner has any sway on my ideology.

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I Call It Islamic Nationalism. Im White and Canadian

>>721068694
I exaggerated with the piece of shit comment obviously, but you're a centrist according to political compass.

You might have conflicting beliefs that weigh against each other, skewing your results. Political compass is actually a pretty shitty way to accurately measure where you stand.

If you're pro-marijuana legalization but anti-gay marriage or anti-abortion, you're virtually guaranteed to be portrayed as a centrist by this website.

>>721068792
lol, green is best color, and red is worst color.

Congrats on being even more shit than the nazis.

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pretty close to being neutral

rip

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>>721066788

more of a libfag than ghandi, i guess.

>>721068520
No way you're 23 and a full fledge engineer you fuck libtard. You're in training at best.

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Mid green reporting for duty.

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>>721068315
Friend!

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What is up my dudes. A fucking leaf reporting in

>>721070337
smart guy

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>>721066788
A socialist and proud of it

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Rate me guys.

>>721069723
Nope, I practice HVAC although i did graduate less than a year ago. I got a job in less than a month in the "horrible economy" of 2016. I just think corporations are shit and people should be free, is that so bad?

>>721071065
thx bb
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>>721067709
prepare to get thrown out of a helicopter

>>721071281
Prepare for the socialist democrat revolution of 2020, where we take our country back and get out of this god awful mess of fake news, alternative facts, and the Donald safe spaces.

>>721071090
you're retarded.

>>721071546
kek

you think amercians are really that dumb, dont you?

I took this test already and if you pretend the origin is where the two bolded lines meet my coordinates are (6, 2.5)

>>721071712
i know Americans are dumb, look the situation we are in now. At least the majority knows whats up and our current political climate is due to gerrymandering and the antiquated electoral college.

>>721071546
>Fake news
What are your plans on Huffpo, Buzzfeed, and the Young Turks. Are you aware of the "Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act" or does your home websites not talk about it?

>>721071546
if socialism was better than capitalism, you would see co-ops running shit.

capitalism > socialism.

>>721071916
>antiquated

only cuz your bitch lost.

>>721072028
Uh, how about the fact that the founder of the Brietbart propaganda machine has an elite position as chief strategist.

>>721072065
I like how you assume that since I wouldn't buy a used car from the Donald that I'd support that corporate leashed bitch. Shes nearly as bad as the cheeto

>>721072058
Until you realize that modern day feudalism snuffed out cooperation through war and propaganda.

>>721072431
this is my friends btw

>>721072461
>implying right wingers understand either

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>>721072507
forgot pic

>>721072461
We just recognize that labor, not capitalism, creates value

>>721072461
If you think an elitist billionaire gives one squirt of bronzer about the everyday worker, than you don't understand human nature.

>>721072572
so go start a co-op, dummy. captalism gives you the freedom to do that in the first place. in socialism its forced, and it clearly doesn't work better or else co-ops would run the business world.

learn to economics.

>>721072431
welcome (friend of) comrade

>>721068701
i'm probably twice your age. i don't cry about paying taxes. it's the cost of civilization.

>>721072706
they don't have to give a shit. the free market always wins. the problem is we don't have a free market now. the solution isn't socialism, its capitalism.

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Am I cancer?

>>721072747
I think you fundamentally misunderstand what socialism is. It doesn't perclude capitalism, only dampens the effects of accumulation of capital and provides for the worker. Communism isnt socialism.

Also, newsflash, we have socialized emergency services, socialized schools, socialized roads, socialized parks, socialized utilities. Try going a single day without socialism.

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18 years old; student.

>>721072797
I'm 36, you?

>72?

>>721072962
if you are cancer so am I (>>721072431)

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>>721072240
>Dogging the question
You're right though, The guy has said he founded his conservative news outlet to counteract the liberal dominated journalist scene. When any normal person would make an unbiased one instead. It should be noted however that Obama has connections to cnn through David Axlrod, who served in the same position Bannon is in now.

>>721069427
Fucking commie piece of shit

Serious question, as capitalism progresses we will have sweeping automation. First transportation, then manufacturing. All automated. Once there are no jobs, and people can't earn money to purchase goods, will capitalism implode? What happens when labor is no longer necessary to produce goods?

>>721073056
84
get off my lawn

>>721070250
WHY WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE AN ICE PICK IN MEXICO, HUH?

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Fuck commies

>>721073217
Hey look I'm not saying that Democrats are holier than thou, I honestly think Dems and Reps are both on the corporate payroll and are capitalist scum.

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>All this wrongthink on my cuckchan

>>721073397
I guess can I can agree with you on the first part, comrade. But I do ask you to form an opinion of the Countering Disinformation And Propaganda Act now that I know where somewhat on the same page. Snopes was the only somewhat big name website other than Zero Hedge to talk about it. But I think they took it down the last time I checked.

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re

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>>721066788
Little farther right than I thought, but yeah I definitely identify as a libertarian.

>>721073355
we're almost indentical anon

>>721073018
socialism is the democratic ownership of the means of production.

therefore a co-op is socialist. stop bitching about wanting socialism when its available in capitalism already.

i'm fine with the state controlling certain things like police, fire, emergency, etc. but the rest of that shit you listed would be better off in the free market.

>>721073614
From my 5 minuets of research it appears to be another government measure to influence public opinion. Seems like every government is going all in on the propaganda game. I lost all faith in Obama after the Snowden leaks. We've been at the mercy of the political/financial elite since humanity became sentient

>>721071362
Dumbass.

>>721073230
people have been saying we wont have jobs because of technological advances since the 1800s. well, guess what? its 2017 and there are more jobs than ever.

capitalism > socialism. history and statistics proves this. now stop bitching and start a co-op.

>>721073355
based anon

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>>721071546
god you're a fucking retard. Don't even say that socialism works in the EU because those fuckers have been piggybacking off the success of US capitalism. The second we adopt those policies is when this whole world goes into crazy recession.

>>721074024
Capitalism is powerful, and is probably the best economic system to date. However it is shit and leaves millions, billions of people in the dust. It cannot be our final form.

>>721074270
Unchecked Capitalism caused the recession and the great depression. FDR and the new deal saved us until ww2 hit and capitalism got the momentum that led us into perpetual war that we are still in today.
95% of all human suffering is due to capitalism.

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oh would you look at that

>>721074365
Are you fucking retarded? Capitalism has done more to alleviate poverty than anything else in the history of the world. It's just an inconvenient truth that some people will always be left behind.

>>721072655
checked and kek'd

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>>721074544
>implying it wasn't corporatism before the GD
>implying there were no heavy taxes BEFORE the GD

>>721074196
While history does lean on your side, we are at the cusp of a industrial revolution orders of magnitude more powerful than the last. Even if things balance out afterwards, we are looking at 100 years of poverty and turmoil for 99% of humanity

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>>721073670
We have to team up and end the state

>>721074365
the further you stray from free market capitalism, the worse things get.

if america became a country with a free market and a limited government, nobody would be left in the dust. it would become the greatest, most successful country in history almost immediately.

>>721074544
>95% of all human suffering is due to capitalism
Can I get some sources fag? That is not even remotely true. Capitalism has created more wealth for everyone and even the poor of today are much better off than the poor of many years ago. That is all thanks to capitalism.

>FDR and the new deal saved us until ww2 hit and capitalism got the momentum that led us into perpetual war that we are still in today.

FDR prolonged the depression by depression by 7 years. The new deal was a disaster and FDR's policies have led to most of the waste in our government today.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409

How you have made it this far in life is beyond me.

>>721074747
The fact that the GD was caused by the growing capitalisthe state is suppressed by corporate propaganda. They own everything

>>721074958
this guy gets it. Kudos anon

>>721074544
is this bait?

america was absolutely incredible in the 20s thanks to the work of warren g harding and calvin coolidge. they both believed and implemented a very free market, and a very limited government, compared to today. ever heard of the roaring 20s?

hoover caused the great depression, and fdr prolonged it. the END of the second world war is what got america out of the depression.

learn your history.

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>>721066788
yay a third compass thread

>red is cuck
sjw using authoritarian measures for control

>green is autistic screeching
sovereign citizens lel

>purple is pretty chill
low gov, let me be me, police each other

>blue is all over the place
totalitarian to conservative to socialism, nationalism fits in most locations


thats how you understand the political compass. I am in the lower blue if i recall.

>>721075035
You can't use an editorial as a source.

What are the sources of human suffering? Illness? Too bad, if you arent rich you can't have access. No job? Work harder it's your fault lazy scum. Can't afford rent? Get a second job. Kids aren't getting educated? Too bad they cut funding to balance the budget after massive tax hikes. Cant afford college? Too bad your family is poor. It's not rocket science.

Also I am a slave to capitalsim, I have a technical degree and make more money than my parents did at my age. I'm no lazy, welfare fag. Just a socialist who thinks there's enough wealth to go around

>>721074825
america will be fine under trump, if he's smart. he's trying to cut taxes, de-regulate the market, and temporarily limit immigration. all of those things are fantastic, but if he doesn't cut spending along with it, he will end up being ronald reagan v2, which wouldn't be good.

>>721075272
The roaring 20s is what causedo the great depression. Unchecked capitalism created a bubble in the stock market because of overspeculation

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am I a degenerate?

>>721072557
are you one of those people with the 30+ trump memes shit posting and crying about trump and how hes gonna fail as you link vox articles?

>>721075594
I will be fine, but my children will live in a warming, polluted enviornment while mankind is thrilled about the paper in their pocket

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>>721075471
>Just a socialist who thinks there's enough wealth to go around

And why is it your decision to take the wealth of others?

>>721075471
you are proof that most socialists have good intentions, but are clueless on economics and government.

>>721075594
All I hear is that the rich will get richer, the poor will become more poor, and us in the middle will be squeezed harder

>>721074849
or save a foreign diplomat's daughter

>>721075677
yes, you need to accept that authoritarian leadership needs to be prevalent in larger countries simple because humans cant manage to obey basic laws and boundaries.

you also need to stop wasting money on weed and create a savings account.

>>721072240
The founder of Breitbart is dead.

>>721075900
Because no man becomes rich on his own. Others contributed to his wealth, possibly through more work and effort than the man himself.

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Ron Paul's pube head

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>>721075900
Tell me, do you believe someone should die of a curable illness simply because they were born into a poor family?

>>721076176
You mean others wanted to jobs that he/she could provide and others wanted services that her/she could provide.

kys faggot.

>>721076176
>through voluntary work they helped.

>>721075672
wrong. hoover caused the great depression by intervening on the market.

coolidge actually dodged a recession in the 20s by lowering taxes and cutting spending. the market worked itself out very quickly. if hoover was president then, he would've caused another depression.

>>721076288
With the broken promise of a fair wage. Until the man realized that the workers were dependent, so he schemed to become more wealthy than any one man deserves to be

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>>721066788
>://www.politicalcompass.org/

>>721076444
a "fair wage" is whatever an individual agrees to work for... if they dont like it, no one is making them stay.

>>721072240
>he founder of the Brietbart propaganda machine has an elite position as chief strategist
I'm pretty far in the green square but this is incorrect. He ran the site after the original guy, Andrew Breitbart, died.

>>721076444
>deserve - one of those emotionally loaded words that is entirely selfish on the users part.

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>>721076281
No, I don't believe that. Why do you believe that the government has to provide those services? The market can easily provide it. People weren't curling over in the streets dying in the 50's before we subsidized healthcare to the levels of today. Have you ever heard of the catholic hospitals?

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>>721066788
Obligatory

>>721076543
A society with an inadequate social welfare system makes them stay, millions of people accept unfair wages simply because the alternative could be homelessness.

>>721076176
Even in the scenario you are describing, surely the able-bodied person collecting social security wouldn't be entitled to that money though. I realize that taxes are inevitable (at least for today and the immediate future), but we should be moving to a fair or flat tax in an effort to be equitable.

>>721076604
Tell me, why should one man hold the wealth generated by the entire lifetimes of a million men? Did he really create that much value in his labors? No, he took advantage of those less fortunate and built his empire on the backs of the worker

>>721076608
Because I believe in an even playing field. People born into poor families should have the same rights and opportunities as someone born into a rich family. That includes the right to healthcare, college, and basic needs. I also don't believe in inheritance.

>>721076879
tell me, is that any of your business? what skin is it off your back? all i hear is thinly veiled greed and envy.

>>721075790
alternative energy would explode in a free market, because there would be a balance.

non-renewable energy would explode because less regulations, but alternative energy would also explode, because they compete against each other. also, cost of living would be at an all time low.

so not only would everyone be better off today, but everyone would be better off 20 years from now because alternative energy would be cheap and effective.

there is no balance right now. we are damaging the environment, but the regulations in place aren't allowing companies to grow at a balanced rate. understand what i'm saying?

>>721076527
commie scum

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>>721075052
Lmao taxes were up the ass and they subsidized all the companies and shit. That's not capitalism

>>721075948
everyone will become richer. cost of living will go down. people are happy again. only if he cuts spending, though.

>>721076953
Because the hoarding of cash causes the suffering of millions. It's unhealthy for .1% of the population to hold 50% of the wealth. It's just not right and doesn't reflect what people have actually provided in value.

>>721076880
>I also don't believe in inheritance.
Ok you lost me, incentives are extremely important for the advancement of human society and the economy.
Why can't people just be moderate socialists which acknowledge the economic inefficiency's whilst still promoting overall human well-being.

>>721076880
>People born into poor families should have the same rights and opportunities as someone born into a rich family.

They already do! The things you're describing are well within reach. Having the right to something though doesn't mean that you're given those things for free.

>I also don't believe in inheritance.
You are seriously fucking retarded. People might think "taxation is theft" is a litter idiotic, but what you're purposing is literally theft. You don't get to take what someone has worked there life for. I set out with a goal to ensure that my children and their children and beyond don't have to worry about finances. If I want to leave my money to them I think it is a no brainer that I given that right to give it to them.

>>721076281
health care in the american free market would be the cheapest and most effective health care there has or will ever be.

you have good intentions, but you need to learn economics. it will do you so much good.

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>>721077124
>hoarding cash

you really have no idea how business works, do you? you just see the success and you do your best to demonize it, and deep down you want that too.

>>721076975
I don't follow. Solar JUST became more economically viable than fossil, however oil lobbiests prop up the dying industry for reasons of self preservation. Not to mention all the trillions of dollars worth of fossil infrastructure. We need to declare a war on oil today and invest 100% in alternatives

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>>721068520
25 year old physics teacher

>>721077104
I'm sure the Wall and increased Military spending will be sure to balance the budget, unless Trump is playing 18D Chinese backgammon and somehow wins a trade war with China (which is certainly possible) then most likely the average american will be worse off, especially in the long run with lower investment in future science and technology's.

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>>721068811
The fuck?

Mine

>>721076817
welfare shouldn't exist. regulations and most taxes also shouldn't exist. those are things that keep people poor.

>>721077363
I understand how business is supposed to work. A man takes a risk and invests capital into a money making machine. Others contribute to the machine and recieve a fair cut of the earnings, and the owner earns a fair larger amount for his risk and initial investment.

That's not how it works today. We have CEOS breaking the law and running companies into the ground, while walking away with millions in bonuses. Don't psychoanalyze me, I get that business owners owners should be compensated more. I just firmly believe that mega billionaires who own more capital than most nations is an unhealthy concentration of power and is incompatable with a true democracy of the people

>>721077670
No, the rich keep people poor.

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>>721066788

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>>721077446
Who the fuck let you people teach and work?

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27 year old manchild

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>>721077670

>>721077839
Is this bait or are you actually fucking retarded?

>>721077858
My nigga>>721077463

>>721077670
>Welfare keeps people poor
This is some quality mental gymnastics, not surprising coming from a taxation is theft kind of guy, taxes and regulations don't exist solely to drain your pay check, they are needed to maintain the civilized modern society and minimize the exploitation of the Proletariat and the environment.

>>721077670
yes.

>>721077234
So you do want people in wealthier families to just have everything handed to them even though they didn't earn it.

>>721077423
oil lobbiests wouldn't exist if the government was limited and the market wasn't regulated. lobbying wouldn't exist period.

declaring war on oil would be one of the dumbest things you could do. you realize oil is in almost everything, right? the cost of living would skyrocket and the middle and lower class would be FUCKED. F U C K E D.

whereas if you let the free market go to work, you would have things balanced out, and nobody would be suffering. we'd have alternative energy in everyones households for cheap in under 15 years.

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>>721078071
also this is me. Im an software eng. student

>>721078001
Since when has /b gotten upset about unpopular truths? The rich/poor dichotomy has been the principle form of human organization for thousands of years. Money=power, and no one should have the power of millions

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>>721077288
ayyy

>>721078097
I think that's the families decision how they would like to raise their children. The family did earn the money though, so I don't know why you're trying to take that away from them.

>>721077791
i think your argument is with corporatism and not capitalism.

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>>721078141
>Literally Hitler

>>721078023
almost my fashy brother

>>721078116
We have the tech today. If $.50 of every dollar we spend on oil today went into clean energy infrastructure, jobs would explode and we could lead the world in an energy revolution

>>721077459
not disagreeing with you there, however a lot of fat can be cut out of the government right now. fingers are crossed he cuts spending, outside of the wall and other shit he wants to do. it can be done.

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>>721077839
not falling for the bait.

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>>721066788
master race

>>721078335
At that point we are arguing semantics. Capitalism has led to corporatism, an ideal free market would serve mankind if he was incapable of experiencing greed

>>721078295
What I don't care how they raise their kid, just as long as they work like everyone else and don't just wait to inherit their parents money.

>>721078295
Wealth is supposed to be a product of value in the economy. What value has an heir provided? Zero. Leeches

>>721078398
>If $.50 of every dollar we spend on oil today
>How to destroy and economy in 1 easy step.
I'm all for Renewable investment but this is retarded, how about cut Military spending by say 10% and over double the government spending on scientific research instead of trying to cripple the consumers and industry.

>>721078555
>an ideal free market would serve mankind if he was incapable of experiencing greed
wut?

The basis of capitalism is literally that people ARE greedy. That's why it works.

I'll leave you with a quote explaining this:
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith

>>721078398
we might have the tech today, but we don't have the market to support it. we need a free market.

if you cut oil drilling by even 20%, cost of living would go way up, and everyone gets poorer. want to see real riots and chaos in the street? not this yuppy liberal bullshit people are doing right now. real riots.

>>721078555
wrong, government has led to corporatism.

>>721078733
>>721072720
Yes, and their parents created that wealth. If you take away all incentive to leave money to your heirs innovation would be severely thwarted. Your economic knowledge is severely lacking.

>>721078555
>Greed and Humanity are inextricably linked.
It is why capitalism works so well wherever it is tried.

Leftist systems try to deny the drive of greed and individualism that makes capitalism a success and you just have evenly distributed mediocrity wherever you go, and at worst a failed state.

>>721078001
>>721078470
It's not fucking complicated. There's one pie to go around. One man eats half the pie, and ten eat the second half. Whose fault is It that the ten are starving. The pie maker? The other nine starving men? Come on guys put your thinking caps on!

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>>721079039
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GETS IT

>>721079039
>>721078555
Yeah, there argument sounds a lot more like one about Cronyism

>>721079159
my nigga

>>721079075
How would making people work for what they have and be more inovative, cripple innovation? All it would do is give everyone starting off an even playing field and make people work harder.

>>721079112
But in this situation the one man who gets half the pie IS the baker and if he didn't bake the fucking pie nobody would have any pie at all,

>>721079112
whose fault? the government.

blame the government, and try to limit it. that's the solution, along with a free market.

>>721078895
Yes. Capitalism funnels human greed which is natural, into a form of trade and cooperation, rather than pretending humans are all Reddit nice guys

>>721079292

because that's not what you're doing. all it would do is remove even more incentive to work and innovative than there already is, thanks to welfare, taxes, and regulation.

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Huh.

>>721079373
Perhaps with our government today. But not because of any intrinsic feature of government but because of the corrupting power of money. Government is supposed to be the voice of the people, it's representative. It's supposed to be the good guy. Then money got involved and now it serves the elite

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
freedom over oppression

>>721079372
But he doesn't need half to be satisfied, a healthy slice would suffice. But to serve his ego he must eat half simply to know he gets more than everyone else

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>>721079733
>yeah but if you don't give me your tax money I'm gonna dome you

>>721068701
you may swing into it when you realize most of the green is opposed to taxes and the government.

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>>721079852
What gave the man half the pie in the first place? A government force has to step in and give him an advantage.

Anything other than green and red and you're an edgy fuck

>>721079432
Interesting argument for capitalism. Although I have to believe that humanity must have a more powerful, constructive feature than greed

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Interesting. I'm an anarchist, BTW.

>>721079616
I wish people would drop this meme off socialism being the same as communism in regards to work incentive, there is enough fucking incentive to work in our capitalist society, increasing regulation or tax a little bit isn't going to make people go "Oh hey I'm just not gonna work harder to earn more money because my marginal benefit is slightly lower, never underestimate human greed.

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my mother is a communist, sister is a socialist, father is an ancap

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>>721079733
>>721079856
btfo

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>>721075682

>>721079852
I agree with you in theory but those who generate the most wealth have to get the greatest share, otherwise next time when you take away some of the pie that he made for the other couple dudes he might make 1/2 a pie next time and now the economy and by proxy everybody is worse off.

>>721080051
You can believe what you want, but at the root of it all is greed. This is something that people have realized for hundreds of years and is the basis for capitalism.

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>>721080139
Ancom or ancap? This one was mine btw
>>721073670

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road debate master race

>>721080388
If we let greed run rampant, it will consume all

>>721079650
wrong. the government causes all of these issues by intervening in the market, and increasing taxes, spending, and creating shit like welfare.

everything would get better if the government was limited, and we had a free market.

>>721080206
Im sorry your mother and sister are economically illiterate.

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>>721080051
You can't depend on humans to be kind. But you can depend on them to be greedy

>>721080570
You sound like some first year Economic major, the Free market isn't the perfect solution that god gave to the world to solve all our problems with resource allocation, whilst it can create the most economic efficiency whats the fucking point if its at the expense of the people and environment,

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the patrician side

>>721080542
You're barely a fucking libertarian you fag

Guys what does the purple mean

>>721080144
socialism is the democratic ownership of the means of production. the cool thing about capitalism is that you can start a co-op, which is the exact definition of socialism!

so stop bitching and start a co-op. stop trying to get the government to expand and fuck everyone over even further.

>>721080570
Ah, the naive libertarian. Where do you get your faith in humanity ?

>>721080470
Anarcho-individualist.

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>>721080928
>putting your faith in humanity to maintain a leftist system

If we can't manage money without being 'porkies' what makes you think it's better when we're in a collective!?

>>721080923
How dare we demand equal access to education and Healthcare. Capitalists deserve their private jets !

>>721080793
it isn't at the expense of the people, retard. the cost of living would be at an all time low in a free market. the environment would be harmed temporarily, but alternative energy would explode and we'd have it cheap and in every household. the free market balances everything out.

>>721081018
Cool. Where do most individualists mark anyways?

>>721081074
Because of true co-dependence and cooperation. Cooperation>competition

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>>721071712
>you think amercians are really that dumb, dont you?

>>721078240
>>721077288
>>721075682
>>721073028
>>721066788
we are one in the same my brothers. check last purple post, it wont let me duplicate the image

obvs don't know shit about growing up po' ass

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>>721081252
>people shouldn't be able to manage their own gains
>they should be able to help the mob rule system take others' stuff though!

>>721080923
-all- companies should be co-op, full stop.

>>721080844
what are you?

>>721071712
You let a guy retarded enough to think that climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese run your country. Yes we think you're absolutely fucking retarded.

>>721081526
>>721073670

>>721081104
yes, how dare you demand shit that has proven to not work and keeps everyone worse off.

literally everyone would be better off in a free market with limited government. cost of living would be low. health care would be incredibly cheap and incredibly effective. we would be making strides that we haven't seen since the industrial revolution. its a shame the socialists/communists/marxists/leninists have no understanding of economics or government, and end up keeping everyone worse off.

>>721081422
>not including me >>721073670

Fuck you cunt

>>721081151
>the cost of living would be at an all time low in a free market
True, it would be $0, because everyone ITT would be dead.

>alternative energy would explode
Maybe if hydrogen power became more popular. Otherwise, the fossil fuel industry would continue to lobby against and force out all alternative energies markets.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNL24zJADxk

This is the only political views I nee

>>721081151
Jesus Christ, even your god Milton Friedman recognized the problems inherent in a truly free market, things may be cheaper overall but wealth inequality would be greater as well.
>the environment would be harmed temporarily
A majority of the environmental damage done is very very permanent.
>alternative energy would explode
a yes a industry still reliant on government subsidy's with little to no infrastructure in place, if only we had more taxes and regulations to allow such an industry to flourish, oh wait you want less tax and regulation.

>>721080844
I am, and its because im very centered. i'm traditionally raised christian so i dont support liberal bullshit, but i also hate aspects of government tracking and extremely close monitoring

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>I'm a leaf as well

>>721081604
Top kek. It was shitty right wing policies that lead to the great depression, the great recession and the subprime mortgage crisis. You create a bubble where everything is great for a while and then it pops turning everything to shit.

>>721081637
>>not including me >>721073670
>Fuck you cunt
i meant specific quadrant. but sure, you are welcome to be included