I'm a software developer at Microsoft. AMA

How much do you get paid annually?

>>720991862
Salary is 106k. Also get ~15% bonus and ~17k in stock

>>720991727
How'd you get a job there

>>720992069
They went to my college's career fair. I talked to a recruiter, submitted my resume, and went through the interview process

>>720991727
when is IPAM not going to suck?

>>720992778
idk, not my job

What do you do for a living, where do you work, and can we ask you anything?

>>720991727
Why can't I name a folder "con"?

>>720992842
Software dev, pacific northwest, yea - wont answer personal stuff or stuff that i'll get fired for

>>720992909
tbh, I've never tried to do that - i use macOS at home for most things

>>720992921
Who do you design software for? Do you live near the ocean? Will certain questions' answers terminate your employment?

Do you make more than 100K a year?

>>720993020
Microsoft, no, yes

>>720991727
Do you prefer jam or jelly

>>720993060
yea, i make 106k salary + stock and bonus

What languages and/or frameworks do you use day to day?

>>720993076
jelly i guess fam

>>720991727
how brown is your skin?

>>720991727
peanut butter or jelly

>>720993114
Frontend I use TypeScript + React, backend is C# + ASP

>>720991727
is there any chance on a work visa for microsoft?, is it worth to get a job on microsoft on another country hoping to get a work visa?

>>720993121
I'm really white actually

>>720993140
peanut butter is more versatile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyaG4oUYtaA&t=6s

>>720993162
yea I work with a ton of people on work visas

>>720993222
thank you, i hope you die in a fire =)

>>720991727
Faggot

>>720993141
Where did you attend university? In my CS courses we haven't learned any of these but clearly they're important.

>>720991727
I just got out of uni with BS in comp sci.
Looking into web app development, or software development.
Anyways. Do you have any advice for me, while I apply for entry level jobs? I'm feeling inadequate, looking at all the qualifications.
Despite my slightly above average hard and soft, skills

>>720993250
cool

>>720993253
do you work for amazon?

>>720993266
A decent engineering school in the northeast. You don't learn those at college, you learn them in your free time. Focus on classes like algo and data structures

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Why don't Sharepoint workflows have a ROUND function?
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>720991727
Won't you actually get fired for this?

>>720991727
Why is windows not getting better since 7? Asking genuinely. Even simple things like why is there no swipe keyboard for win10 surfaces?

Are you Indian?

>>720993354
Start a side project with JS, make a GitHub and put a ton of stuff on it, start applying everywhere. Most qualifications they ask for are total BS.

>>720991727
When you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich do you spread the peanut butter first or the jelly first?

>>720993354
Same on so many levels

Why does Microsoft overcomplicate everything? And why does the UX for XBOX blow donkey dicks?

>>720993372
idk, I dont work on sharepoint

>>720993396
I don't like windows in general, but the search has gotten pretty bad in win10

>>720993411
no

>>720993382
idk probably not, im not on their network and havent posted anything identifying so i think im good

>>720993442
peanut butter both sides, jelly glob in the middle

>>720993507
bureaucracy, also i dont have an xbox

What would you say you do at microsoft?
What are you actually working on?

>>720993436
Thank's mate,
I hear Microsoft is cutthroat, do you agree?
To elaborate, my friends mom worked for microsoft as a SE and said she felt like they encouraged employees to act cut throat towards their other employees.

>>720993597
I work on a web app and mostly do frontend stuff. I dont want to go into too much detail though

Ever met Ballmer?

Why not work at Google with poole?

>>720993645
Do you like the Metro design? Why, why not?
Can you tell me anything about Win10Cloud?

>>720993101
noice

>>720993633
Hiring is rough and it's though to get in. Since I've been here everyone has been super nice and works as a team. I've never felt like anyone has been cut throat to me

>>720993687
I started after he left

>>720993717
Google wanted my transcript when i applied and I already had an offer from MSFT so i didnt follow up with the recruiter

>>720991727
Did they fire the guy who decided it was a good Idea to push win8s start/appscreen to Windows 2k12?

If no why not?

Also why cant you get webbased management interfaces (I.e. exchange ecp) to function normaly on Chrome?

Is this your first job? How long you been there?

>>720992909

con means console. it's for inputting data directly by typing into the console.

>>720993723
Metro is a cool concept, win8 executed it super poorly. I think it matured with win10 and newer versions of office though

I just learned about win10cloud today via twitter

Where do you live?

What's it like working for the new IBM?

>>720993771
>>720993717
That's a solid reply can't argue with that you went the easy route for an easy living.

>>720993791
idk if they fired the guy, i started after win10 was released.

A ton of the things made a while ago only work in IE because stuff like activeX, there's not a lot of return from rewriting things to work in chrome if they Just Work tm

>>720993798
First job out of college, internships before. been here a few months

>>720993906
seattle

>>720993909
its not. MSFT runs the largest SaaS (O365) and one the largest cloud providers. IBM made mainframes

Any bangable bitches there?

>>720993971
my friend works for google. from what he tells me id like seattle better anyway. Once your in the bug 4 though its pretty easy to move around

>>720994012
yea, not everyone is a software engineer

>>720993971

What the hell are you typing?

Do _you_ even know what you're typing?

Does anyone else?

>>720993830
thanks for the tip fam

What are some of the workplace perks?

>>720993986

>its not. MSFT runs the largest SaaS (O365) and one the largest cloud providers. IBM made mainframes.

Keep telling yourself that, buddy.

FYI: IBM did a whole lot more than simply sell mainframes in their time. You're exceedingly stupid for a whitecollar.

>>720993986
What are internships like? Do they give you tasks appropriate to your skills? Are they exhausting? DO they teach you new skills, or is another mark on your CV the only thing you walk out of there with?

Have you played the "Try Not to Cum" game below yet? Result?

>>720991727
How the fuck do i remove cortana?, and which cunt thought it was a good idea in the first place?

>>720994165
Free soda + tea + coffee
subsidized food
$150 on azure per month
free public transit in puget sound
free microsoft bus to work
everyone gets their own office
good dev set ups
good health benefits i guess

>>720994236
MSFT is a crazy diverse company

>>720994243
didnt intern at MSFT

>>720994252
no

>>720994260
https://www.ubuntu.com/

>>720994260

He doesn't know and wouldn't tell youif he did. This isn't so much "AMA" as "FMAW" (Feed My Attention-Whoring). I'm not even sure why the fuck he bothered making the thread at this point.

>>720993195
idk how i missed this, but yea I like the shark

>>720991727
I'm a struggling developer. Mostly web dev stuff so far, I love python and ColdFusion (shush).

Do you have any tips on how to get your name out there in the field? Can you give any tips or secrets of the industry? Like what to do and not do to better your chances of getting and keeping a good dev position?

Just any advice would be great. I'm really interested in how everything works with the big companies. The structure of developers positions etc. (bosses, fellow employees, etc.)

Also congrats on getting in there. Nice job.

>>720994352
Internships in general. You said that you have interned somewhere, have you not?

>>720994117
What the fuck are you autistic?

Do _you_ even know that you're autistic?

Is everyone autistic?

>>720994352
>>720994260 (You)

ha ha ha, good skills, very good skills.

Why does microsoft steal data from us?

post proof lying fagget. I'm BIll Gates and OP is lying fagget.

>>720991727
Are you on Satya's layoff list?

>>720994375
calm down guy. im not an expert on windows. i mostly do frontend web dev

>>720994433
make a github, have a JS side project, follow and talk to people on twitter. it can kind of difficult if you're cold applying, but you can safely reapply every 6 months.

Best tip I can have is have a good resume with links to open source projects.

I'm like 7 levels below Satya. I have a manager, he has a manager, etc. We all work together, not really bossing around. It's chill

>>720994375
Because people who work at Microsoft do it so that they can tell everyone they work at a company they've heard of while simultaneously not having to be an actually productive member of their department. Well, okay, that's only true of people who stay at Microsoft over three years; there are idealistic new graduates every year who think Microsoft's the shit and run to work for them only to realize that Microsoft actually is the shit and run away to another equally well-paid job.

>>720991727
so how long did it take you to escape from test?

Ever been arrested or molested?
How many of your Seattle friends killed themselves?

>>720994433
not him, but r/cscareerquestions is my go-to for stuff like that. One simple sentence couldn't cover the answer to your question.

>inb4 plebbit
just fucking go there.

>>720993854
Metro is for faggots with the eyesight of an elderly cataract sufferer. But keep shooting for the stars, trying to topple Google.

Smoke weed?
Does Seattle always smell like weed?
MSFT drug test?

>>720994439
Oh yea, my bad. I interned at smaller companies, so they were pretty relaxed for the most part. The biggest thing you can get out of an internship is how the engineering process works. You can learn data structures and algo from books, but not really the engineering process

>>720994510
tbh they dont. its just telemetry so we know what errors people have.

>>720994521
cool

>>720994573
no, it's part of the reorg layoff from when he started

>>720994636
I never worked in test, started as a SWE. I joined after the merge

>>720994681
No, none

>>720994687
r/cscareerquestions is a solid place for that stuff

>>720994698
I like material better

>>720994713
no
yes
no

WTF with SQL Server Management Studio?

Don't you think it is time to rethink the UX/UI, 17 years have gone since 2000, you know...

>>720994439
Going on this a little more...
The internship totally depends on the company. Some are super relaxed and let you pick some of your own work, others give you a strict goal for the summer. You usually get a mentor to guide you, but basically YMMV

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>>720994596
Thanks for the advice. My github is shit. I hate doing projects that don't make me money. Like just to build my references. You're right though. I need to get on that shit.

What do you mean following people on Twitter? Just to see if anyone's hiring? Or actually start talking and posting on other developers pages?

Thanks again for the advice. Very helpful. I recently turned down a job with Amazon because I hate java and I would've had to move across country. How did your interview go? Like a three panel driving session or easy going?

Have any openings there? Lol

Thoughts on linux and does it disrupt your co-workers mindset?

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>>720994687
Thanks bro. Tits for you

>>720994596
I heard Satya doesn't use the Microsoft corporate jet. He just flies everywhere on his magic carpet. True?

Is this your first job out of college? How does it feel to be in a cushy job meant to retire in? Do you work <40 hrs a week? Do you feel like you're actually learning anything? Do you think that once you go to a real company it will be tough to adjust?

What type of stuff do you work on (backend, web?)

>>720994887
I use it a decent amount. I don't like it. The whole thing is a rewrite provides very little return for a ton of work. See https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/

>>720994953
I learn a ton from following devs on twitter. Most JS people on twitter are super helpful and friendly. I recommend following the React page and just going from the recommendations there. Just follow and learn.

My interview had 3 stages: phone interview (30 min), college campus interview (30 min), on site (6 hours).

>>720995030
I love linux. I don't think anyone I work with is opposed to it, they just don't know it.

>>720995071
:+1:

>>720995152
Satya is a super awesome guy and is leading the company in the right direction. idk about the jet though

>>720995231
First job out of college
Feels weird. I put in a ton of effort but you can see some people are just riding it out.
I work about 50 hours a week between the office, home and commuting. Not because I have to, I'm just passionate about what I do.
I'm not learning much technically, and I'm by far the best frontend dev on my team. I'm learning how to work on a team and how to teach though.
Shouldn't be too hard to adjust. I like the hackathon scenario better anyway

I work on frontend web dev mostly (TypeScript + React and some Angular). Some backend too

>>720994927
thanks for the heads up!

>>720991727

u y no Amazon?

>>720995921
didnt even bother applying. i know a bunch of amazon guys though - one lives next door

How much is Microsoft paying the firm you actually work at to astroturf websites with significant web traffic, Pahjeet?

>>720995969

why not? You'd likely make more than what you do now, unless webdev is all you know.

>>720996067

Web development is all he knows. And most of that is very, very, very mediocre work.

>>720996015
I work at MSFT, as a software dev. If anyone was paying me to advertise MSFT ive been doing a pretty bad job

>>720996067
>>720996130
I like webdev and distributed systems. Nothing on my project works with distributed systems, so I don't do it.

If you are truly a M.S. employee... What used to be in bldg 25?

When does the next Age of Empires come out?

>>720996247
idk, i only started a few months ago. I pass 25 everyday getting off the connector though

>>720996289
idk

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>>720996212
>Nothing on my project works with distributed systems

> webdev
> not distributed systems

mfw when kids say the darnest things

>>720996567
It's a pretty simple CRUD app. SQL Server + ASP. Swarm/Kube/etc would overcomplicate system

should I upgrade to vista?

>>720996710
no

>>720991727
Why did you choose a dying company to work at?

Wow. New blood... Bldg 16, 1st floor network closet #1. Go Inside the door and look to the right. Under floor panel 4. I left some fun shit... Enjoy.

>>720996676

Right, and how many SQL boxes do you have? And how many for serving your ASP? And where do you serve your static assets from, do you even CDN? How many regions/AZs is your app deployed in?

Anyway, good luck at MSFT, I noped the fuck out of there after a couple of months at MSR and ended up at AWS. Pay's decent and I get to play with interesting problems. Not in Seattle though, I'd fucking kill myself.

So, in other words, you don't actually know shit about Microsoft, won't answer any but the blandest safe questions, and (as we can tell from your posts) you are not exactly the brightest crayon in the color box.

This thread is just a big fucking waste of everyone's time then, isn't it? Faggot.

>>720996902
> Record stock prices

>>720996941
:+1:

>>720996997
1 SQL box. 3 for ASP. No CDN. 1 AZ. It's an on-prem app for internal use.

>>720997036
What edgy question would you like to ask?
Sorry to break it to you, most software dev is boring work.

>>720996997

I've heard Bezos and anyone vaguely in the same orbit with him are some of the worst human beings on the planet to interact with.

>>720996902

Because he's too stupid to know it's dying. This asshole actually thinks people are going to pay for SaaS, remember?

Fuck, why can't >>720996997 take over? Amazon is much more interesting than Microsoft to hear about.

>>720997168

>he thinks the stock market reflects reality

It's all run on number-cloaked bullshit, fucko.

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>>720997168

ugh, well I hope you're not on-call for it then.

>>720997195
>>720997254

If you guys want to attack MSFT, go ahead. I don't have much of an impact on the big picture, they just pay me $$$

>>720997270
I am on call for it =/ I joined this team like 6 months ago. There's so much legacy infra. I had no part in designing any of it.

It's really annoying to work with

>>720997195

What would you like to know? OP is right, software dev is mostly boring.

>>720997437

You Amazon Anon?

>>720997372

Welcome to the real world. I joined an acquisition that still runs mostly on PHP. Almost all of the old devs have left either because we fired them or because they were unhappy about the changes. We have like two of these incompetent fuckers left, one of which is a huge asshole who will forever defend PHP and his shitty design choices.

Luckily none of his shit ever works and management is pretty much fed up with him. They only keep him around for his knowledge of the legacy systems, but most of the new hires have caught up by now so his usefulness is quickly running out.

In the meantime we're slowly rewriting everything in Java with proper tests, continuous deployment, and leveraging AWS where we can.

These assfucks built a rube-goldberg machine using crons and queues in database tables to do async work, so we're re-doing all that using workflow engines.

It's fun though, I get to live in New York and get paid enough to enjoy it. My gf and I go out to dinner several times a week, guzzle globs of wine and cocktails, and travel when we can. It's pretty sweet.

>>720997490

Yep. SDE2 code-slave number 1891231 checking in.

>>720997802

Does any of your work go into amazon.com itself?

>>720997973

Why do you want to know?

>>720998113

I shop there and I've always suspected what they tell their customers RE shipping dates, when shit will ship, how much of an item they have left in stock etc was all highly misleading.

I just wonder why you would even go through the trouble of coding that shit if it's just something your backend servers vomit up merely to _appear_ useful.

>>720998313

Well I'm not in retail, so I really wouldn't know. What I can tell you though is that Amazon has a shit ton of stuff in stock across many warehouses. They also sell a lot of stuff through third-party merchants whose inventory they don't control.

So I imagine it's a pretty damn hard problem to get an accurate, up-to-date estimate of how many jars of aloe-vera pina colada flavored lube you have left in stock, and how quickly you can get a Mexican person to stick it in a box.

As for shipping, Amazon relies on other companies to get your shit to you, and how quickly they can do that is out of Amazon's control.

Amazon is trying to do better here though. We already use robots in our warehouses to move racks full of products around the floor while the order pickers stay in one place. That way to fill an order, we can just move the item to the picker, have them grab it, and then move the rack back onto the floor. We can queue up racks at the picker to keep them busy and not have them waste time walking around.

There's some interesting math involved there on how many robots you need per picker, and how to distribute your products across racks. Turns out that you want to spread products across as many racks as possible instead of putting all jars of lube on the same rack. That way one order of lube doesn't block another one being fulfilled at the same time.

>>720993830
isn't con for comic con or convention?

>>720998976

It's con on dos/windows systems. Maybe comes from CP/M? Unix/linux uses 'term' or 'terminal'.

>>720998737

Well, I just find it....Highly convenient...That an item I'm after can go from having six of it in stock, to having one, to having four, all in the space of twenty-four hours. Surely you can see how that looks? Especially if it is perpetually "Only x left in stock, order soon!". It comes off as the system having been deliberately coded to have a pokerface when it comes to inventory availability. At that point your customers will inherently begin to mistrust it, and suddenly its usefulness (except in pissing people off) is absolutely nil, so you may as well have never coded it.

But I'm guessing you're far removed from all that shit, huh?

>>720991727
How much time do you spend each day discussing how much Apple software designers suck each other's dicks?

>>720999291

Well I'd say our inventory system being shitty is probably a more likely explanation than us trying to shaft you.

>>720991727

Do you guys decide how many blue screens we'll get per year?