Yeah, but think deeper. He gives up his comfy ass rich as fuck life to go through all the trouble of running for president and have everyone trying to ruin his reputation and shit. He didn't have to do any of this. Everyone knows rich businessmen usually get whatever they want, they can just buy politicians. He ran for president because he wanted to actually change some shit for the better.
I believed his intentions were genuine because of what he left behind
Most politicians aren't at all the same, they come from a career of being a politician, or some shady lawyer.
>>720915717 He also has money that doesn't rely on political favors to stay stable.
Most politicians have to double check their every decision with about 5 interest groups and lobbyists before they can carry it out, while Trump doesn't. Unless he does something to piss off the Republican majority, the only people Trump is beholden to are himself and the judiciary.
>>720915717 >>720916073 >lied about funding his campaign all by himself >refuses to disconnect himself from his businesses around the world >filled his cabinet with nearly all yes-men instead of qualified individuals >believes tax cuts for the rich will improve the economy
>>720914351 I love how trump has to have these clips where he's signing shit with a bunch of people all standing around doing nothing. he's such a child. "see im doing pwesident stuff, im da pwesident."
Actually, that's generally what happens when a president signs a bill, you're just so used to never seeing president sign anything because they don't actually do anything. Trump has done more in less than 2 weeks, than the past 5 presidents did in their entire time in office.
>>720922038 he's not signing bills you retard he's signing executive orders. You know, the same stuff you called obama a dictator for doing even though every single republican congressman said loud and proud that they would obstruct anything he did no matter what, even to the point of fillibustering bills they themselves proposed.. he's so fucking retarded that he doesn't even realize he doesn't have to use executive orders, Not one single republican has the spine to stand up to him.
>Trump signs executive order [Autistic screeching from SJWs]
>Obama signs executive order [Autistic screeching from neocons]
>Bush signs executive order [Autistic screeching from Air America Radio and Cenk]
>Clinton signs executive order [Autistic screeching from talk radio 24/7]
>Bush Sr. signs executive order [Autistic screeching from emos]
Y'all need to calm the fuck down and not pretend the other side is a demon every time their figurehead sneezes. If you don't like the result of the election, go out and vote next time. It takes less time than finding a 7/11 that doesn't have koreans on the roof.
Hes pissing and moaning because he realized he cant do whatever he wants like his life before. He cant go to fancy restaurants and buy whatever he wants. He realized he has to shit in the white house all day and read bills and hes throwing tantrums everyday. Fuck off sympathizer
>>720915717 You;re the reason he got elected - he ran for president because his massive ego said he should. And he never expected to get anywhere, just some cheap PR time for brand Trump. Then he fucking won and he's shitting himself
Republicans haven't run a real candidate since Bush Jr in 2000. 2008 Bush shouldn't have happened but they're literally down to a celebrity who wasn't even Republican a decade ago and he's just using their party to promote his brand.
>>720925065 Well, he's only ignored half of UN human rights declaration, is extorting a neighbouring country for Lebensra- to pay for a wall, spouts more alternative facts than Heinrich Himmler, keeps saying the Je- immigrants are behind all of America's problems, and that he will make the country great again after their humiliations in the past two decades. I wonder why the comparison?
>>720917990 The atty general serves at the presidents pleasure asshat. Always has. Why do you suppose an incoming president can appoint a NEW atty general? Is that not the same as firing the previous one?
>>720925441 >I wonder why the comparison? Invalid. You're a liberal cuckold. Allow me to explain. >Hitler killed somewhere between 2 and 14 million people, depending on what you believe >Trump is keeping some people from entering a country, the SAME THING OBAMA DID *TWICE* during his first term in office
>one man killed millions >one man did disagreeable things
This is why you liberals are no longer taken seriously. This is why no one is listening to you, and even left-leaning idealists from other countries aren't listening to you anymore.
You're so fucking disconnected from reality, you try to liken disagreeable executive orders with the murder of 2-14 million people.
You're fucking fucked in the head. Get it to-fuck-gether.
>but THIS IS HOW NAZI GERMANY STARTED
No, it fucking isn't. Nazi Germany started because a corrupt and rotund Democratic Republic left its' people to mass starvation and unemployment and because an entire continent financially skullfucked Germany.
>>720926162 Because the ban, you fucking daft cunt, was temporary, just like Trump's is. In 2011 Obama halted travel and work visas from select (middle eastern) countries for 6 months. Then rescinded it.
It's a ban. It's temporary. Holy fucking nut-butter why are you fucking liberals taking so long to understand what the word temporary means.
>>720923112 Even if that is the case, anyone who voted for him actually did vote for HIM. Anyone that voted for Hillary did really vote for her at all, they just voted for every piece of shit that funded her campaign
>>720927267 Are you asking about the seven nations listed or the US? If a request from Us state dept goes to Sudan about an individual there is almost no chance the Sudanese govt can provide info on said refugee
>>720927532 Trump didn't ban Saudi Arabia... this is crucial. In the Middle East, the Sauds like to portray themselves as the rulers of the Muslim world. They work with countries like Iraq and Yemen as the power brokers. Yet at the same time, they've got money issues and they want closer ties with the US With his travel ban, Trump has put the Sauds in a really difficult position with their neighbours; it's really awkward for them and the Sauds are embarrassed. At some point Trump is going to talk to the Sauds. They're going to say, "we need to be seen as the negotiators who lifted the travel ban and we'd like to have good relations with the US." To this Trump will say, "I can help you do that, but what can you do for me?" Trump is going to get something for nothing. This is the basis of Trump's Art of the Deal philosophy and we're beginning to see it as a pattern of bahaviour. It's why he called Taiwan and put China on edge. It's why he talks of ending Nato and puts Europe on edge. It's why he talks of a wall with Mexico. They're opening gambits in a negotiation. "You want to keep Nato? No problem, but what can you do for me?"
>>720923028 Even if he provided the paperwork that showed he divested himself of his businesses, you wouldn't be able to make sense of them. Then you and your faggot friends would complain that he actually didn't because the properties still bear his name.
>>720928065 the fascists are the ones who keep trying to subvert democracy and impose their ideology on other people, the left have been the real fascists here, if you dont know that then you dont know what the definition of fascism even is
>>720928581 That exact thing was done after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. It is universally seen as a black eye on US integrity. Better to just say no you may not come here than to interrupt them until such time as they are deemed safe to integrate into American society. Really, that should be clear even to progressive cultured marxists.
The only problem is that American citizens are finding it hard to come back. Refugees and illegals are one thing, but people who work or live here shouldn't be barred or have to go through this arduous bullshit.
>>720928624 I'm from the country that MADE fascism - Italy. Don't you school me on what fascism is.
I can see it happening in USA right now - taking over positions, firing those who've sworn to protect the Constitution (even Pence admitted that what Trump did was un-Constitutional), supressing the press (except the ones that only speak well of him), etc.
Reminds me of the stories my grandfather told us about Mussolini.
Anyway, I feel sorry for the still-sane part of your population.
>>720914351 https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-isis-al-qaeda-jihadists.amp.html?client=ms-android-verizon >Doesn't ban Saudi Arabia >10 out of the 11 people who caused 911 were from Saudi This is how you know the republican party is full of shit. They put money above people
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/lobbyists-donald-trump-transition-ban-231562 All that ban does is prevent them from doing it publicly. They can still do so with brokers and funnling through other organisations
>>720914351 I dont really understand what a temporary ban is going to do in the long run. I cant get any real information from the news. they been talking about it all day but only about how tragic and sad this is. In fact its just reports about the protesting and nothing else. fuck I hate the news.
>>720933978 You aren't talking in circles, you are trying to make logic out of air. Saudis still have Isis and did 911 but didn't get banned since trump made 8 companies in said is Arabia during his campaign. That might have something to do with it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?client=ms-android-verizon
>>720933972 George washington ownd a plantation during his presidency does that mean he had a conflict of interest? No of course not. Now if he were to sign an exec order to build that pipeline it would be a conflict of interest. But he isnt, he simply gave the opinion that he suports its construction.
Stock is property thats like saying him owning a german car is a conflict of interest.
>>720934618 Are you seriously comparing the 1st president with the 45th? How retarded are you? Washington literally could have become a king, and there were plenty that pushed for it since that was what people were used to at the time. There's really no basis for your comparison.
btw, washington made lots of money in land speculation during a time when America was expanding its holdings. Conflict of interest? You bet your fucking ass, you historically illiterate piece of shit.
>>720934252 because we buy their oil retard, his business is American business, maybe if you leftist idiots get out of the way and let people who actually like to work and contribute build our pipelines on the road to become energy independent, we can help stop making desert dictators filthy rich when their culture is still 1000 years in the past.
>>720936782 what's your point because supporting people would mean not banning right? but your argument is that he's dumb for not banning, so maybe get on track a little, also, do some research about how many immigrants are from the regions he didn't ban and the ones from the banned regions, then look up where the most destabilized areas are, instead of reading clickbait from buzzfeed or Washington post for your bullshit.
>>720914694 Even though he's a politician, he's actually doing the things he told us he was going to do. You may notice that everyone is completely unused to this, and we should probably all think about what that means.
>>720920989 >funding his campaign all by himself When was that a thing? He was taking donations from citizens but not from PACs. Also his campaign was selling the official MAGA hats from his campaign website, as a fund-raiser. What made you think he claimed to be 100% self-funded?
>>720938507 >violate the constitution. Really? What part? If you've actually read it, then you should have no trouble citing the specific clause that was violated by a specific Executive Order, right? So go ahead: amaze me with your knowledge of the US Constitution.
>>720941456 Not only that, but the list of 7 countries that Trump put the temporary immigration ban on was actually compiled by the Obama administration. These are the countries that Obama's people declared "terror hot spots" but everyone is still acting like Trump hand picked these countries himself.
>>720914351 How do you guys feel about that religious nutjob Betsy DeVos? Serious replies please. Inb4 SHUT UP LIBTARD!!!! I just want to know if there are any other Trump supporters who see that DeVos is a bad decision.
second, if it were, I would see no problem with that, since it wasn't Christians who blew up the WTC, shot up the Orlando night club, shot up the San Bernardino office building, Blew up the bomb as the Boston Marathon, mowed people down with trucks, etc.
>>720941964 I wasn't even referring to the Iraq incident. I was referring to the fact that Trump put a block on the seven countries on a list that Obama's administration had identified as "hot spots". Let me repeat and rephrase that for you reading "comprehension": The list already existed, compiled by Obama's staff, and Trump followed that list when he issued his ban. He DID NOT PICK THOSE COUNTRIES HIMSELF. In other words: Obama's people said "these seven countries could be trouble". Later, Trump decided that it might be a good idea to temporarily halt immigration from those seven countries.
In short, Trump followed a list that was made by Obama's people. Which is to say that he did not select those countries himself, by which I mean that he just went with the already-existing list that Obama's people left behind.
>>720917990 8 US Code 1182 (f) >the Constitution gives him powers to bar immigration if he believes it will help the country >NUHHHH UHHHH ITS ILLLLLLEGAL AND RACIST What's illegal is the protesting (without a permit) and rioting/assaults/damage of property that leftists are doing.
>>720942760 HISTORY TIME: That clause in the Constitution's First Amendment that says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", is there specifically because of the Church Of England. It means that Congress cannot establish an official religion of the US, nor can congress outlaw a religion.
Here's where it gets tricky: 1. Laws passed by congress apply to citizens and nationals of the United States Of America. Not to Syrians, Iraqis, etc. 2. Congress has not (and will not) even attempt to pass a law banning muslims. This is a temporary halt on immigration from seven specific countries, not from one specific religion (90% of Muslim countries are unaffected by this order)
There is absolutely, positively, no First Amendment issue here. And the President *is* within his legal authority to exercise Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter 11, Section 11, clause 1182.
>>720944956 Honestly I think the very fact that people are shocked by a politician keeping his word is pretty scary. Not even in reference to the specific actions being taken, but just the fact that we're so accustomed to being lied to by politicians that a politician doing what he said he would has completely blindsided so many people.
>>720945414 history fail he didn't invade during the winter, he invaded during the warm part of the year but expected to quickly steamroll Russia the way he steamrolled western european countries and that didn't work out too well so they still hadn't made much headway by the time winter rolled in and kicked their unprepared asses.
>>720945413 It's refreshing to be honest, I mean I guess people can be scared about a politician actually doing their job but that seems pretty silly to me. Silly as in they shouldn't be shocked about it, this SHOULD be expected, I know it isn't but it should.
Maybe the hundreds of politicians before Trump shouldn't have betrayed the trust of the people time after time before we elected Trump just as a parting fuck you before the supposed break down of the country.
Way I see it IF America is going to fall make it quick because I have shit to do. Better than a slow death from Hilary eventually leading to nuclear war with Russia
>>720915717 Yeah, like he's all about making the world a better place. He's just an ego on legs. When you have fucked and spent til you're bored you start going for things a bit bigger. He's not a philanthropist he's a narcissist.
>>720946887 No man I'm not upset, I'm talking common sense. I'm sorry I have feelings and injustices can hurt them. I am a special person and have unique feelings and my feelings will stop Donald trump. Go feminists! Go black lives matter!
>>720943243 And you completely missed my point. You make it sound like Obama compiled a list of countries and left it on the desk in the Oval Office with a note saying "Todo: ban immigration from these countries" when that couldn't be further from the truth. Compiling a list of countries with shady/incomplete governments and a few terrorist cells IS NOT the same as compiling a list of countries to ban immigration from. How the fuck can your brain even make that connection? You're reaching.
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