How to unite humanity under a common banner?

>>720903569
Space invaders

>>720903569
You dont, that would be utter cancer.

>>720903569
If every department manager carried a submachine gun this place would be a paradise

>>720903628
Why?
If we assume that killing people and ripping each other off is bad then we should find a way to make it stop.

>>720903569
A common enemy? All I can think of

>>720903698
How is that gonna help? Prevent robberies?
It's not like robberies are a big problem - at least where i live.

>>720903698
if every person had a nuke there would be no violence

>>720903787
This

Kill everyone but one banner, enjoy your 5 minutes of peace then choose one of the new banners.

Kill all humans

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>>720903787
Or a common goal! Space exploration and the advancement of science in the hopes of finding something that gives are for now shallow lives some meaning/purpose.
Oh wait religious people and short term goals/"profits" are more important to people.

>>720903830
TERRORISM

>>720904072
yeah but there's still competition there. Except among scientists, sometimes.

>>720904072
CAPITALISM

BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON IT'S BETTER THAN SOCIALISM

>>720904171
Competition can be healthy.

>>720904233
Or it can kill your species. Like the neanderthals.

>>720903787
The common enemy is death. Space exploration is too slow and boring. What we need to unite us is a race to develop life extension and mind uploading before we all die.

>>720904378
Neanderthals interned with homo sapiens sapiens, they were just a different subspecies, like black people.

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>>720904072
>their primitive superstition
>backwards savages

most people in the 1500s were Christians

that image is so inaccurate its sad

whenever someone was called barbarous or primitive they were legit lower than themselves

there are clear levels of societies

>>720903953
>>720904042
The "just kill x" angle is retarded. Noone would allow to be killed "for the greater good" and noone would want to live with such a history for a long period of time.
According to some theory (it might have been the "two factor theory" by Herzberg) a good company must eleminate aspects of it which prevents their workers to be proud of their work. Now if we wanna fix the world like a company, killing the people don't like is off the table because it prevents them to be proud of it rendering it incapable to exist for a long period of time. It will decay like the roman empire.

>>720903620
100% this. It's already planned.

"just think how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries and we would find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on this earth together"

>>720904492
Most people in the 1500s were not Christians.

>>720903620
Sadly this, and at we most likely end up exterminated

>>720903569
It's called the New World Order and it is already happening. Piece by piece. UN is world government but needs to be truly worldwide so we have the starting blocks in the Unions. Meaning the European union, the African union, the Asian union. It looks like the American union might be placed on hold with Trump in office but a deal is in place for one currency in the union.

>>720904607
Are you retarded? Look at any time Europeans or Arabs invaded a place and took it over. Did the people unify along racial lines or did some of them ally with the invaders while some of the invaders turned around and allied with the natives?

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>>720904744
I'm not talking about geopolitics, for all i care everyone may govern their own spot the way the respective people see it. I'm talking about stopping international and national conflicts, making the hate above borders a thing of the past because people realize that their neighbor is also a human beeing.

>>720904643
in europe they were

and in that picture the castles are european

>>720904795
>implying countries invading other countries is the same as fucking aliens
>"are you retarded"

Pretty sure when the ayy lmaos come to kill all humans, they won't want any of us joining their side, Captain Autimso.

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>>720904403
Why cling to life? you would be missing out on an aspect of life if you do. After death could be better than "life". Plus the fact that we will all be dead soon frees you from having to give a fuck so you can enjoy yourself! Not taking everything super seriously and trying to control people all the time.

>>720904934
But we just developed VRs and are about to make fuckable robots!

>>720904915
Thanks I forgot about the part where I was supposed to read your mind and know you were talking about Europe as "everyone".

>>720904934
Aliens can make it all the way here and they just want to exterminate us? Think about what we would do if we found and went to an alien planet more primitive than us. We would have lots of sick fun with them but we would not just mass exterminate them.

>>720905151
>aliens are exactly like us and would make the exact same decisions that we do

Shiggy.

>>720905151
Plus: Why not let them live and mine whatever shit for us with the constant reminder: "if you act up we'll nuke a city from orbit, so don't get any funny ideas"

>>720904959
I don't know what you mean about taking things seriously and trying to control people, but if you think that something great awaits you in death then I invite you to kill yourself.

>>720903756
maybe if everyone just mind their own business then there would be peace.

especially US. what a greedy piece of shit of a country

>>720905233
But why would they make that one particular decision that people are afraid of for no reason? The whole point is they could do anything.

>>720905346
>aliens realize they need water
>hey, earthling fags have a ton of water
>we don't give them water
>fuck it let's just blast them and take it

>>720905405
Whuts dat?

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>>720905256
I don't think that... but who knows... I don't and neither do you. But that's no reasons to be afraid of it and try to hold onto life.

>>720904072
This is the only right answer.
Sad that humanity will never reach this state :(

>>720905434
>implying all aliens have bodies.

>>720905681
You wouldn't understand because you lack the critical drive living things need to go on. There is nothing after death, and I want to go on doing things. Please die and do not reproduce, you are a disgrace to those of us who want to see humanity attain godhood.

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>>720905794
Never said they have bodies.


>good-byeeeee moon men

>>720905434
>can travel light years
>immortal or FTL or master colony shipbuilders
>can't obtain fucking water

>>720905959
>there is no God wahhh wahhh
>I want humanity to reach godhood so kill yourself plus


Not even on no baiting bullshit, you're just a fucking moron.

>>720906073
>implying water isn't the rarest thing in the fucking universe
>can't into third grade science

>>720906073
With water and energy you can beautifully synthesize rocket fuel which is a useful thing for spacetravel.

>>720906079
I never said there was no god, but god and the afterlife are unfalsifiable and I have better things to base my actions on that some shit no one can prove or disprove. Again, some of us would like our species to live and grow.

>>720903620
Damn, that fast.

Ronald Reagan, of all people, said this.

I'd say Trump might agree, but then again I think he already has one laying on his head.

>>720906217
>better things to do

Like be a little bitch on /b/?

>>720906132
>>720906200
Liquid water is rare but water is easy to make from common materials if you control enough energy for space flight. No one is crossing interstellar space without being able to transmute elements, and hydrogen and oxygen are easy to obtain from heavier ones.

Present humanity with an enemy so powerful, so evil, so terrrifying, so alien, that humanity will unite under the very first person who has a plan to fight said enemy, even if the person was fucking Hitler.

>>720906287
You know it bby ;)

>>720905959
>there is nothing after death
Prove it.

>>720904910
You are a mental-midget. Simple as that. Good day to you.

simple answer, Prussia 135% discipline

>>720906366
>I know everything that extraterrestrials are capable of, and exactly how they would/wouldnt do it

>>720906366
May be true, but still - let it be something else like "aliens find iron to be super rare, and HOLY SHIT earth has so much iron". The reason why they want resources isn't really the issue, but that they will get it and there's nothing we can do about it.

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>>720906485
i wonder where you are on this pyramid...

>>720903569
im a white middle aged man , wtf have i got to do with any other culture , politics or society , its fuck all to do with me , what right would i create to justify forcing my will on strangers or vice versa

you dont , it dont work is the answer

>>720906366
>ignoring my point completely

The resources used as examples are irrelevant. If not water, then something else.

>>720903569
conflict always comes from 2 sources.
competition for space
competition for resources

if space travel where mastered, there could be infinite space and infinite resources available to whoever wants it.

there would be no reason to fight. but only to work together towards one common goal.

that goal is discovery.

>>720903569
step one, elect utter douchebag to Pres of USA
step 2... working on that...

>>720906602
If you don't care why get in this thread?

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>>720903569
Written upon said common banner should be written :-
"Walking talking hairless apes that for some reason think they are special"

>>720906717
>b-b-but muh popular vote!

We get it. It's been over a month, stop being crybabies already. You lost. Deal with it.

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>>720906702
Then why are there space pirates in Mass Effect?

But on a more serious note: Space travel will become normal for people and they're back to their old habits including conflicts. It's just that i'd try to keep those conflicts as small as possible.

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>>720906285
Trump is too busy fisting Gene Simmons to worry about space

>>720905309
>USA, PLEASE HELP US AND GIVE US DAT FORIEGN AID
>USA JUST MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS GAH
rest of world confirmed nigger women

>>720906996
what would there be conflict over in space?

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>>720903569
Alien invasion
Mass world-wide plague
WWII-esque nation-state similar to Germany starts throwing nukes around indiscriminately

Literally the only way this happens. It's just human nature. We would need an "us vs. them" conflict that transcended nations in order to band together under a common banner.

>>720903787
you mean jews?

>>720903569
Its called project bluebeam. A fake alien invasion to unite a one world government

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There are only two instances where humanity would unite:

1. End of world event
2. Alien visitors that want to kill everyone

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>>720904072
We could band under a common goal, but only if it represented an existential threat, such as a meteor that was projected to strike the earth "x" number of years from now, and we would need to collaborate with other nations to figure out a deterrent strategy.

>>720907204
Resources obviously. Think of early colonial time where governments rushed to aftrica and later america, and claimed as much land as possible in order to prevent others from getting it. Later on they extracted these resources which is the same what will happen to rocks in space. And for the same reasons there were pirates who just wanted the resources for themselves without all the hard work.

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>>720907045
Jokes on you, I have contributed to the thread and now I'm having a laugh therefore contributing even more!

>>720906583
so the very foundation of a solid argument is insults? faggot?

>>720907413
Those are both one thing, genius.

There is no way
https://youtu.be/NS8FeMcasjU

>>720907487
zohan is a pretty awesome movie

Trump invades Mexico

>>720904492

Don't take the image literally. Think about the way the media talks and the way the country seems to think when you look at it.

>>720907425
Fake news, a meteor has never destroyed humankind before, so why would it start now? Liberal NASA agenda to bring in the NWO and take our guns and herd us in FEMA camps fuck that Nig DeGrassi Tyson nigger.

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good ol fashion conventional war

>>720907679
>implying countries would risk taking on the only legitimate superpower remaining in the world to protect Mexico

>>720904492
You dumb fucking retard.
Nothing in that image suggested a time period.
It was solely one side vs other according to perspective history.

You hopeless faggot couldn't miss an opportunity to bring religion into it could you.

>>720906534

Alternatively, if they actually decide to ask for it first, we could probably make out a deal, provided they didn't do something stupid like land in the Middle East or North Korea.

>>720907455
u forget space will be unlimited in real life. everyone gets as much asteroid as they want.

>>720904558
Lead piping?

>>720904558
try using that logic with trailer trash bob who is ready to kill mexicans, gays, muslims and blacks

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>>720907868
>aliens have sent espionage troops to check us out
>they find out primitive communication network
>log in and google "glorious leader"
yup, that must be the boss of them: HQ, land there.

No more niggers or muslims. Or maybe if Jesus cane back to prove everyone else wrong. That might do it.

>>720904910
i agree

unfortunately the timeline is beyond our lifetimes

if it fails it will fail within the next 100 years

if it succeeds it wont happen until well after a century

in the meantime we will stick to our automatics, missiles, drones and dirty bombs

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>>720907884
And you forget that space is fucking HUGE. The next possibly habitable planet is 40lightyears away - if we make it to 1/10 of light speed while flying there, we'll also have to slow down because we don't want to run into it, which lead us to 800 years flight time. One direction. Therefore these planets haver very different monetary value including but not limited to their range thowards earth.

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>>720907145
I Kekd

>>720908313
i mean thatd be the case. but im sure if the world worked together to perfect space flight then distance and directions wouldnt be a problem.

the point of the thread is how we unite. and im just saying thats how. focus on space flight.

>>720905434
>space aliens need water
>find earth water planet
>rescan the galaxy
>find this

http://www.space.com/12400-universe-biggest-oldest-cloud-water.html

>detour to water cloud instead
>earth never knows aliens wanted to kill them for water

>>720908487
>harboring 140 trillion times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined
let me write that down:
140.000.000.000.000.000.000
that's 140*10^18
holy shit man

>>720904492

> most people in the 1500s were christian

you do realise that the middle east and asia existed back then right?

>>720906453
Are you going to have a problem if I say there is no teapot orbiting the planet somewhere in open space too?

>>720908313
Jupiter's moons are 40 lightyears away?

>>720906534
it is a general fallacy to think that we or our planet would be in any way important to space travellers that have figured out how to travel vast distances across space

water is abundant enough on other planets - as a liquid or as hard as rock

all other minerals or resources in either gas, solid or liquid form can be obtained from asteroid, comets, planets, planetoids ... and if they are advanced enough, can harvest any resource or energy they please from an entire star

if they are capable of even just travelling over great distances - if you were an intelligent being that wanted to use its time and energy efficiently - what would you do? - fly to a tiny little planet, fight off some alien race of primitive beings - or fly to the next star system with uninhabited bodies where you could get all the things you wanted

>>720908654
And that's why Muslims always say the Quran said this 1400 years ago

Silly Muslim propagandists don't even know when their book was written.

Or you don't, which seems much more likely

>>720906534
You can make any material through transmutation if you have enough power or time to cross open space, and the cost is going to be comparable at worst because crossing space takes a ton of power or time or both. Like there is literally no non-information resource we could have that would make aliens decide to take it from us rather than just manufacture it at home.

>>720908789
They're not classified as Earth-like.

>>720908789
Moons =/= planets.
Outside of our solar system - anyways.

>>720909087
Do you have the code that does this?

>>720909015
Well maybe they're slavers and collect all of humanity as cool exotic pets to aliens - but after all, it doesn't really matter why they come. The only aspect so far is how it unites humanity.

People will unite under the Ai and 3d printing designs rest of all will be destroyed by them selves include government

>>720903620
>>720903787
This, but then we don't deserve to survive.

>>720905959
Ye the first million years will be amazing, but after a trillion years, or how about after 10^37485 years?
You will be bored, everything that can be done, WILL BE DONE.
And you will do the same things over and over again and thats just the start,
you have an entire eternity of doing the same shit again and again and again.

>>720909428
Well worst case you gain immortality and the big bounce gets you: The universe currently expands, at some point it will reverse and crush everything.

>>720909428
There are literally an infinite number of things to do friend. Write an endless story, or study math and just keep building forever. Make a million copies of yourself and become a civilization. Go nuts. Become a completely alien thing a million times over.

>>720909428
>implying you with your comparatively limited mental capacity can comprehend right now what can still be done many, many years into the future
Creative pursuits exist, and there are so many connections to be made, how could humanity possibly find, discover and deduce them all, let alone -know- that a limit of understanding or creation exists and that they have reached that limit? There is certainly no way to know for sure right now. There may always be another idea, another way to spin something, and to say that for absolutely certain is not only pessimistic, but highly flawed reasoning with any iota of self-awareness.

>>720908042
>No more niggers or muslims

I genuinely hope one day you will find love in your life anon.

>>720909861
I can prove there are an infinite number of things to do right now.

1. List all the things you can think of that are special about the number 1 until you get bored.
2. List all the things you can think of that are special about the number 2 until you get bored.
3. List all the things you can think of that are special about the number 3 until you get bored.
.
.
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n. List all the things you can think of that are special about the number n until you get bored.
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>>720908042
Small communities can barely function without fighting in mayoral settings among themselves, if you think removing a few demographics is going to magically solve world conflict, I've got bad news for you, son.

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Create a sort of verbal parasite. Use it to get rid of ever last language in the world excluding English. Yes, and have a huge bipedal nuke to destroy anyone who dare oposes you. The world will all be one.

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Let's get back to the topic at hand, our discussion seems to have drifted away:

Right now we have the following solutions:

a) Aliens invade and humanity needs to defend

b) Spacetravel as a unifying idea

c) Exterminate X

What about a global fashist government + Brainwashing? I know this is the position of the bad guy, but couldn't something like this permanently eliminate conflicts? Well of course there would always be the obligatory resistance groups and so on which itself would ahhh.... I'm starting to sound like stalin...

>>720903569
It could actually be feasible to unite humanity under a common banner if you were powerful enough to do so, just don't expect it to be perfect or anywhere near. You could go from Orwell's 1984 to Brave New World or even beyond, something no one has even fathomed yet. What will always remain the same as long as humans retain humanity is conflict, don't be disillusioned.

>>720910398
>not including ceating death

This attitude is why we are all going to die.

>>720910398
>>720910527
Whooops, you're right, i forgot about one possibility:
a) Aliens invade and humanity needs to defend

b) Spacetravel as a unifying idea

c) Exterminate X

d) fight against death

>>720903569
Dick unity

Seems this thread is pretty much over. Well, it was fun while it lasted.