>>720685458 >why does it matter who the successor was Because there were many issues that did not arise during the time of the prophet or were not brought up by him, so there needed to be people to continue giving advice. I don't hold anything against sunnis, and neither do most of the shia that I have met at least. The rationale behind the thing on the prayer mat is that people always used to pray with their heads on the ground, or something natural. Why do you guys cross your arms in prayer? There are small differences but they aren't very significant.
>>720685787 He's the 12th one, and I sort of believe it. There are lots of things that make sense to me about the religion, but there are also many things that don't. I'm not very religious at all, since I'm confused about many things right now.
>>720686253 I'll list one specific thing. So according to the Quran, you are supposed to pray to Allah and ask for help when you need it. It also says that Allah will give you assistance. That being said, there are still so many religious Muslims around the world living in terrible conditions. If our god really was supposed to help when asked to, why is that the case? What annoys me more is that if someone prays for something to happen, and it doesn't, they immediately this k that "it wasn't meant to be" or something like "Allah knows best." In my mind, this reasoning is a complete contradiction of what I said before, where Allah is supposed to help when you ask.
So there are a few logical points that don't make sense to me.
Are homosexuals this dumb, that you can actually be made to act this way. You're convinced Muslims are this and that by your Jewish media and then as soon as you see one, you ask him about what you saw on Jewish media. Like here, I'll show you what a normal person would do. If you were interested, you would research the topic.
Homosexuals actually believe that everything they hear from Jewish media is sacred and they should teach others to join the human centipede.
>>720687112 >why is your religion so extreme It really isn't that extreme. There are some differences between it and modern culture (things like hijab), but I wouldn't say there are incompatibilities. The extreme you are thinking of comes from a subsect of sunnis called wahabis. These guys are the ones controlling a majority of the Muslim countries, and their faith very extreme and harsh. They also happen to be the richest group of Muslims, which has allowed them to dump tons of money into spreading their version of the religion.
>>720687253 People on both sides have the idea that their way is the only correct way and everyone else is a heretic.
>>720687320 My parents are from Pakistan. My dad moved here when he was 16 (his dad was a banker and got relocated to New York), and my mother moved here when she was 18 after marrying my dad.
>>720687310 Yeah, I agree. It's just something that has been drilled into me since birth that it's very difficult for me to just let go. Like I said, there are some things I agree with, which is why I haven't dismissed the religion entirely. I usually don't talk about this topic to other people though. My faith is a personal thing and I don't need to bring it up unnecessarily.
The homosexual brain simply doesnt thirst for knowledge, you thirst for dick, so to cope with the fact that everybody around you has a considerably large world view you resign yourself to pretending they dont
>>720687326 no no no. I didn't ask why you hate the Jews. I know why you hate Jews. Thats not even the right reason. The Jews were opposed and tried to overthrow Muhammad and the new Muslims that came to Medina, which led to a long and rich history of hate. Ah don't you just love Islam. So full of hate.
>>720687567 >The extreme you are thinking of comes from a subsect of sunnis called wahabis Bullshit
I've read the Qur'an and the Hadiths, it's full of violence and hate towards non-believers and the life of Mohammad was disgustingly horrible.
Peaceful Muslims are not real Muslims, according to Islam, anyone who has done their homework on the subject would know this. I know for a fact though that most Muslims are completely ignorant of their own faith.
Just go read Sahih Al Bukhari and Sahih Muslim and what have you, Mohammad was a suicidal, violent, and diseased pedophile with massive self-esteem issues.
>>720687975 The sahih books are sunni literature, not show. This was exactly my point. I have also read the entire Quran, and I agree that parts seem a bit violent, but if you go through a timeline of Islam at the same time as the Quranic verses were revealed it becomes obvious that those verses are in reference to specific events or situations.
>>720688271 I mentioned in one of my posts that my religion is something personal, and not something that has an effect on anyone else. I'm perfectly fine with people disliking religion, but why do you want me to denounce it if the way I'm practicing it already doesn't impact you at all?
The things you are disagreeing with is civilization, whites, Muslims, society, having a career, leaving people alone, letting people live their lives, your comments are retarded and serve no purpose besides being in people's faces.
I've talked to hundreds of thousands of people on the internet and your speech pattern is identical to queer.
>>720688195 They are the most authoritative sources on the life of Mohammad, beside them none exist, if you want to deny their authenticity then you're going against the oldest most mainstream sources.
Second of all, don't give me the context bullcrap, the context of the violent verses in the Qur'an are clear and obvious. The Qur'an itself says that it is very clear.
There is no confusion when the Qur'an says "Not to take Christians and Jews as friends, because they are friends of each other"
I have no problem with Muslims, most are Muslims because their parents are, and to even doubt Islam for a second would alienate them from society, but Islam itself as a religion and ideology is extremely dangerous for any civilized person.
I won't even mention the historical mistakes and clear contradictions that Allah makes (Then even saying, oh, if you find a contradiction, just take the later verses. So much for being all knowing.)
>>720687975 >The extreme you are thinking of comes from a subsect of Christians called West Boroughs Bullshit
I've read the Old and New Testaments, it's full of violence and hate towards non-believers and the life of Jesus Christ was disgustingly horrible.
Peaceful Christians are not real Christians, according to Christianity, anyone who has done their homework on the subject would know this. I know for a fact though that most Christians are completely ignorant of their own faith.
Just go watch the news and the accounts of the Cardinals and what have you, the Pope was a suicidal, violent, and diseased pedophile with massive self-esteem issues.
Second of all, they are not full of violence and hate, the only "violence" you will find is in the Old Testament, and those commandments were only meant for the children of Israel of that time, nobody else then, and nobody now.
If you have "read the Old and New Testaments" as you said, you would know this, but because you're a moron who only wants to attack people who criticize you, you end up looking like an idiot.
Peaceful Christians ARE real Christians, because they do not contradict the teachings of Christ.
Peaceful Muslims, on the other hand, are acting in contradiction to what Mohammad taught and how he lived, so they are not real Muslims.
Don't waste my time if you have nothing useful to say, moron.
>>720688613 Why are you telling me about my religion? Please read a bit more. Shia Muslims do not follow the sahih books. I'm not sure why you think you're the expert on this subject. As someone who has been raised Muslim, I'm just going to say the rest of your post is bullshit. Yes, there are things I disagree with or don't understand, but it isn't a dangerous religion. You are thinking of the skewed version of Islam followed by wahabis. Please mention some of the historical mistakes. I'm curious about that, since I've never heard of anything like that.
>>720688721 After the death of the prophet, sunnis chose to follow one of the companions of the prophet and those guys were called khalifas. Shia followed the lineage of the prophet. This has led to some differences, but shia and sunni do get along in America, because most of us are open minded.
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