He's really fucking doing it. Who else is pumped?

The wall has to be the most retarded idea ever. Do you really think it's gonna stop the spicks? They're just gonna get better at digging tunnels and don't tell me that they're gonna pay for it too. Beaners can't even afford shampoo, how the fuck are they gonna pay for a 2000 mile wall?

>inb4 lib cuck

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>>720216658
me :3
>>720216924
The wall isn't the only thing he is doing.

>Beaners can't even afford shampoo, how the fuck are they gonna pay for a 2000 mile wall?
He is going to tax remittances and shit, anon.
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

>>720216658
>federal resources
I though Mexico was gonna pay for it?

>>720217106
They are going to pay for it.

>>720217179
>>federal resources
>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources>federal resources

I was for the wall.

We're going to pay for it now?

nope.

You see I believe in FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY and a SMALL GOVERNMENT.

Mexico won't pay for the goddam wall. You idiots were conned by a coastal liberal elitist.

>>720216658
Good thing I got the day off, I'm going to go protest.

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>>720217218
They are still going to pay for it, anon.
Just because they spend money on it first doesn't mean they aren't going to make mexico pay.

>>720217255
>>720217303

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>>720216658
Hell yeah I'm pumped

>>720217255
I don't mind paying for the wall. As long as it gets up is all I'm concerned with.

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>>720217255
THANK YOU

>>720217296
No your not. And more importantly no one cares.

>>720217303
Oh yeah? I'll just pick up a new Ferrari with my own money. And you're going to pay for it. Believe me!

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>>720217044
Am I the only one who got a little hard from reading that?

>>720216924
This. Ever heard of rope for climbing?

>>720217421
Did you even read the picture?

>>720217218
they are planning on reducing aid money going into mexico to use on the wall, so technically mexico is paying for it

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>>720216658
Fuck yeah, its about time

>>720217106
>>720217179
>>720217255
What the fuck did you expect? TransCanada is totally going to only use US steel and not export it's shit to china too right? Ya dangus's got played. Get your asses ready for all that foreign cock you'll be taking for the next four years.

>>720217179
No they are not. He already said you and i are paying for it and mexico will reamberse us later which is a crock of shit.

American beaner here, build wall on the northern border of the US also pls, dont want them muslims and Canadacucks here.

>>720217507
kek, no, we're just paying them less

not the same thing moron, it's still the American tax payer who pays for it

>>720217523
>Ya dangus's got played.
>implying I voted for Trump

>>720217303
>>720217044
That's a plan I can stand behind! Fuck Yes! It's happening

>>720217543
I don't mind paying for it. Take my taxes and build a wall. It will offset the amount of money we have to pay for them in prison.

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all in all you americucks are just another dick in the wall

>>720217528
>>720217543
Are you paid shills or actually retarded? Read the thread.

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Yes! Raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it!

>>720216658
>building the whole wall on wednesday

>>720217629
He said it himself you fucking retard. Like im gonna believe you idiots on here.

A wall isn't going to do shit, and I doubt trump could get it done within his term.

>>720216658
The great wall of dipshit is impossible. It'll make the big dig look like putting up a few traffic cones. I think after this hits 10 billion, with absolutely no plan to pay for it, republicans will get wise. But maybe not. We'll see.

>>720217697
What are your sources? I'd like to know.

Read these:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration/

>>720217543
yet we are paying no more than before the wall.. will we really notice it? no, but im sure mexico will

Tax breaks to keep jobs makes no fucking sense.

It just leads to higher taxes for those working the jobs. Making that money going to the "saved" jobs worthless to anyone but the rich.

>Easiest fix for the economy is getting rid of all tax breaks for large companies. And free college to allow people to get decent jobs rather than minimum wage robot work.

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>>720216658
Imagine the outrage that will follow.
Trump will be hated around the world.
I can't wait for the millions of mental breakdowns.
I will cum buckets if that happens.

>>720217535
Lol why would canadians want to illegally immigrate to the US?

>>720217523
8. it's going to be worse than you think.

>>720217824
Do you know what happens when you tax the rich too much? They cut down on jobs and benefits that their companies provide to keep their profit margin up.

>>720217824
>falling for the college meme

>>720217824
>free college
Yeah, cause paying for every adult to get bullshit degrees wouldn't be far worse than wall. Are you some kind of special stupid?

>>720217797
Yeah im sure it will work out that. You really have that much faith in the system?

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>>720217179

>>720217824
If you want socialism why don't you move, champ?

>>720217535
Fuck no, if we put up a wall then the liberal faggots will have a harder time fleeing to Canada.

>>720217824
>free college
>creating an ocean of edgy whiners with degrees
>internships becomes burger flipping for a dollar an hour more

>>720218019
We can install one-way cuck doors for them to crawl through.

How precisely does anyone think that Trump is going to force Mexico to pay half a trillion dollars on a wall they don't want and don't stand to benefit from?

>>720217629
>Are you paid shills or actually retarded?
I'm a paid shill, obviously.

>>720218104
Are you going to keep replying to this thread acting like you are a different person?
It's been posted more than once.
>>720217303
>>720217303
>>720217303

>>720218051
Shitposting aside, educated individuals have statistically high pay and consequently, pay more in taxes.

In other words, a more educated country means a better one.

>>720217981
You really think college really costs 50K? More like schools make boatloads hand over fist. It should be a meritocracy just like everything else. If you suck at it you get booted and someone smarter than you succeeds past you.

>>720218104
>half a trillion dollars
Oy vey one trillion shekels? Where are we going to get two trillion shekels?

>>720218142
this forever

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>>720217044
>Criminal aliens

>>720218140
Oh I read it. What I'm asking is how exactly you think that this is going to work out. It's easy enough to write it down on paper and hypothesize about the response, another altogether in reality.

>>720218142
ok. so statistically a worthless subhuman with a degree will most likely get a high paying job. educated, therefore better

>>720217303

A quick reverse image of that and nothing shows up. That "plan" is about as bullshit as the wall itself.

>>720218152
>You really think college really costs 50K?
I don't remember saying it did. It's like you're just trying to put words in my mouth like a faggot who can't properly construct an argument.
>If you suck at it you get booted and someone smarter than you succeeds past you.
If you're poor and you don't want to put in the effort than someone better will come along and succeeds past you. Get gud loser.

>>720218189
Are you telling me breaking laws and entering the united states of America is not a crime?
I think he also might be referring to the ones with criminal records but I'm not completely sure. Criminals either way.
>>720218203
Exactly like it's written down?
We'll see. I mean, is it not going to work like that? What is going to stop him? The democratic majority in the house and senate?

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>>720218093
Why build a door when we can build a trebuchet?

>>720218320
because it's a PDF
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

>>720218333
>entering the united states of America *illegally
fug

>>720218288
Would you rather have an idiocracy? I could see why you'd favor it, given your responses thus far.

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The hilarious part:

Trump contracted an Israeli company to design the wall. AND build the wall.

>>720218203
if i give you 10 bucks a day, and you owe me 50 bucks but refuse to give them back, i can just cut what i give you on a daily basis until i get back my 50 bucks(or even more i can add interest to that to give you incentive to give me the money willingly)

america supports many countries financialy and they are take a big portion of the market(especially mexico with which they share a border so transportation is cheapest) so they can also hurt trade which will impact the weaker mexico alot more than america

>>720216658
See, what he needs to do is build a giant electric fence that's been reinforced and dips down into the ground about 5 - 10 feet.

Or a wall that dips down 5 - 10 feet with self shooting guns.

>>720218348
Even better idea.
I sure hope Trump makes the second wall his priority for his next term.

>>720216658
>Most undocumented illegal immigrants came to America via plane
>Planes can fly over walls
>This makes it harder for them to come, work, and leave, so instead they stay
>We're already in debt, the next 5 generations will be paying for this pointless expense
>Good luck building this wall through towns, villages, and houses.
>I guess wildlife can go fuck it's self

>>720218421
Ah yes. I didn't realize stifling trade markets and swamping other countries economies has ~totally~ worked out well in the past.

I thought Trump was all for free market trade? Yet here he is, trying to strong arm someone already.

>>720218333
I just found it funny that they used the word "alien", nothing else. TBH, I don't give a shit about either north america or mexico.

Also, checked.

>>720216658
BUILD

>>720218378
i would. nothing wrong with a student having an understanding what their education costs, by actually coming up with the money themselves. idiocracy, if you seriously want to believe thats what it should be called, would be fair

>>720218349
Ah I see. My bad. Although this isn't a whole lot better. It's just an outline of his plan while he was on the campaign trail. There is nothing truly official about it.

>>720218497
>free market trade
They're free to go elsewhere and trade.

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>>720216658

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>>720218329
You implied it. College costs an exorbitant amount because it is a for profit model. If it were a service provided by the state it would be subsidized. It wouldn't be as cutting edge but it would still be a higher guaranteed baseline.
>If you wanted to go to college you shouldn't have been born into a poor family

>>720218435
Do you have any idea how heavy a 20m tall wall would be? It already will dip a few meters underground.

Doesn't matter though. You can dig deeper than you can build upwards, and planes exist. This wall is as pointless as aircraft carriers.

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>>720218051
Oh yeah, i forgot no one benifits from a college degree, and shit public education combined with unnafordable post secondary didn't create a nation full of ignorant peasants who think illegal immigrants and terrorists are the source of all there problems and that some elderly huckster hitler wannabe will fix everything by building a wall and pissing of the world.

Free college might be a long shot, but at least it would be a real attempt at fixing a broken system, rather than regressing to xenophobic policies.

>>720218484
You do realise there is already a fence stretching the entire border right? going though towns and villages etc
This wall is just a larger strong defence
Also please provide a source for most undocumented illegal immigrants come via planes... I'd love to read this, however I know for a fact it aint true.

>>720218545
>nothing wrong with a student having an understanding what their education costs, by actually coming up with the money themselves

So your issue with free education is you think students will take their education for granted since they aren't personally accountable for it, in the event that they drop out or fail a semester?

Then yes, that is a problem. But there are solutions to that you know.

>>720218591
That doesn't even make sense. Blocking or taxing trade between countries has historically been a terrible decision that benefits nobody.

>>720218399
not true at all.

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this is awesome

Israel designs/constructs

America pays for it

wall = prison for murkans

>>720218658
>You do realise there is already a fence stretching the entire border right? going though towns and villages etc
No.

>>720218658
My bad, it's about 40% of them that overstay their visa in such a manner. Go ahead and look it up.

Well, time to avoid paying taxes because I sure as hell ain't paying for that wall.

There is no way, NO FUCKING WAY, this plan will generate the revenue needed to pay for that wall. It's going to come out of our taxes, mark my words.

>>720218752
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.753331

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikDOM2k1jkw

Fucking. This. This perfectly explains how retarded this is.

We are not paying for the wall, at least not directly, the Mexican goverment already signed some shit that says that nobody can sign that type of deal, niggas here in Mexico are not paying for that shit, its money that the corrupt politicians are going to lose, of course they arent going to agree to that

>>720218399
False.
Go back to /pol/ where opinions considered facts

>>720218497
>I thought Trump was all for free market trade?
I can't find it but in the last day I watched him say "but we don't have free trade, do we?" or something along those lines.
He is playing by the rules of the current system, anon.

>>720218596
>You implied it
Nah, you just have to frame your argument because it can't even hold up under its own weight. It's a pathetic tactic that isn't fooling anyone.
>If it were a service provided by the state it would be subsidized.
So basically we should all pay out a shit ton more in taxes for a secondary public school system that will inevitably be just as bad as the public school systems that get shit on by superior private schools? No thanks.

Going to college isn't a right. If you aren't willing to put in the work to get scholarships, take on work to pay for bills, etc. then you don't deserve it. So basically, you are a crybaby loser who wants everyone else to pay for your useless degrees. Go fuck yourself.

>>720217044
Yeh. He's also gonna DEREGULATE markets, and add TAXES TO IMPORTS.

Do you MAGA retards not realize what that means? Remember trickle down? No company is going to move MFG home to avoid taxes. They pass that shit on and blame the president. See: Obamacare.

Gonna be real good for the economy to pay $300 more for cell phones and exponentially more for cars.

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it's weird, because illegals contribute billions to the US economy

and republicans have made tons of money off of illegals (so have dems)

I wonder if they'll tolerate this fuckery

>>720218828
Honestly I highly doubt the wall is going to happen. Trump has flip-flopped on it so much. And general estimates of the cost of the wall are absolutely crazy. I do not think congress will allow it.

>>720217528
>which is a crock of shit.
Like everything else that wrinkly boulder of a politician in a trench coat says

>>720218895
you're trying to communicate with, and educate retards.

>>720218926
executive order

it's done

he's already signed 600 executive orders.

:O

>>720218852
It doesn't matter how stupid, he made a campaign promise and he is going to deliver, faggot.

>>720218676
>But there are solutions to that you know
yea. im aware of one in particular

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>>720216658
Walls can't stop us pendejo

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>>720216658
It will keep the Americans out of Mexico!
Congratulations Mexico
Turn it to your advantage

>>720218930
Shill somewhere else, samefag.

>>720217584
L fucking OL. No it won't. You think the private sector with government roots is gonna just lose a shitload of money without taking out of our asses?

They will make diversify, offer Trump and his ilk a sweet deal to get on board, and you and I regardless of who we voted for are going to end up paying the exact fucking same amount of taxes if not more to subsidise some other bullshit. Like, IDK, expedited pipeline construction.

>>720218884
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/trade

I know I just said earlier in the thread that his campaign website isn't official. But he certainly was gunning for "free market trade". Although I'm not sure if that means "free market trade insofar it benefits the U.S." or something else.

>>720219007
BINGO

>>720218926
Congress will allow it if it means stealing money from the people and building jackshit.

>>720218809
Yeah, inwhich he said the new laws will evict thous a lot sooner than previously...
>>720218784
https://dabrownstein.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/41650176_mexico_boarders_3_map416.jpg
>>720218838
>The Israeli Firm That Investors Are Betting Will Build Trump's Wall
So where is the proof hes actually contacted them? Oh wait.. he has never approached them at all.
Stop just jumping at little articles like its fact kid.

>>720218893
Says they guy who cant form an argument without resorting to name calling and continues to purposefully miss the point. If we restructured the way we go to college it wouldn't be so expensive. Other countries have done it quite successfully.

I think I figured it out, you just like living in a around dumb people so you can feel smarter.

Trump Presidency: Day 1
Announced his intention to extort large international trade partners for boondoggle projects.
Anyone who thinks Trump is a savvy businessman is a fool. The worst thing a con man that intends to cheat people can do is to announce he's a con man and he intends to cheat you.
Believe it or not, the international community isn't made completely of Trumpian calibre fools.

>>720219080
>https://dabrownstein.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/41650176_mexico_boarders_3_map416.jpg
That literally does not show a wall accost the entire boarder. What are you trying to say?

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>>720217965
Duh-hur. Kinda like what Trump plans to do with border taxes on American companies?

>>720217633
implying there is a middle class in murica

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When he finds out how hard doing this will be he will half ass it if he does it at all.

>>720218989
Executive orders can be overturned. And from I've read, it looks like Trump is going to order the wall, not that he has yet.

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>>720219080
>durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i'm a white nationalist durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>I love Israel, Zionism and jews now durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>720218996
Meaning what, exactly? I'm all for having a discussion about it.

>>720219187
I make over 40k a year with no kids. I'm the new middle class. I can buy graphics cards and take my dog to the vet and pay $400/mo insurance and I'm not even 30.

>>720219108
>You called me a name! You big fucking asshole meany-face!
Cry about it faggot.

>other countries
Come to the US to get superior education. Why don't you go overseas and study their if they're so much better? I thought not.

>>720219063
He wants trade deals that aren't completely retarded.
He is going do negotiate individually.

>>720219257
You know, that would be really quite ironic, wouldn't it? If /pol/ all of a sudden started liking (((jews))) again because Trump does? I wonder what they would pick given conflicting beliefs.

It's a funny thought at least.

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Israel, China and Russia will benefit from Trump.

In that order.

lol "maga". what retards.

>the wall is not actually just a meme

You american are so retarded holy shit haha

>>720219257
They're the retarded sheep that people like Trump take advantage of and then they're told to blame minorities.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.

>>720219282
Wow you sure showed me, guess I'm voting democrat next time!

>>720219349
they've thoroughly embraced jews, Israel and Zionism since trump was elected

it's been interesting - but not surprising to watch

(we're dealing with retards, his supporters don't exactly have principles or dignity)

http://www.keklel.org/news/idiot-10000-matches-nsfw/

Tbh

Good! Get the fuck out, dirty fucking illegals.

Can we export the neon heads too?

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>>720219283
Yeah yeah wanker
be a good little consumer won't you
Pic related it's you :)

>>720219370
Yeah, even spencer called trump a jew, and a liar.

but trump's average retards are loyal.

>>720219309
>if yo dont like it you can leave the country!
>never mind trying to improve upon it
>IT CANT BE DONE
You are the very definition of narrow minded.

>>720219458
>being a butthurt nigger
kek

>>720219411
Have they? I actively ignore those kind of people because conversation is pointless with opinions as bizarre as theirs. If you can find me something about it, I'd pretty grateful.

>>720219411
That's what happens when the South takes a huge shit on education. You're left with a population of illiterate inbreds who can't even think for themselves.

>>720219309
>Come to the US to get superior education
Citation please, retard

>>720219531
BINGO

>>720219559
The U.S. has many of the worlds best engineering schools.

http://www.shanghairanking.com/FieldENG2015.html

There is good reason why many countries sent their students overseas to the U.S. as internationals.

>>720218774
Now tell us the one about the aliens and how they're mind controlling the jews to mind control everyone else

>>720216924
Top Kek, you do know that Mexico isn't going to pay shit right? And you do have a point about the tunnels, there's also other ways to get across.

>>720219559
there is nothing superior about our overrated and expensive colleges. this is mostly the reason people are mad about wasting resources to make them free

>>720219559
Oh child. You amuse me.
>Harvard
>Stanford
>MIT
>Berkley
>Princeton
>Caltech
>Columbia University
>University of Chicago

All in the top ten world wide. If you want a superior education you must go to the US. Stay mad though.

>>720218784
LOL the 'fence' often times only runs through major populated cities. Go 10 miles outside the city and there's nothing there. Which is fine the only people who like walls are commie faggots anyways. I thought Reagan got rid of all those faggots years ago.

>>720219224
Milhouse is not a meme.

>>720218874
>alternative facts
Thank you very much

>>720216658
Who cares about the wall, I got here via plane. Get mad 'muricans

Just so you guys know, America is the laughing stock of the entire world. Enjoy Sakoku-ing/east Germany-ing yourself you fuckwits.

>>720219918
You have to go back.

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>>720219859
Milhouse is more of a meme than you.

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>>720219648
BINGO

>>720219953
I can't, there's going to be a wall blocking the way out.

virtually all 'illegals get to the US via plane

and you dumb fucks want to build a wall.

are we seeing devolution in action, in America?

I'm just happy muds and libs are having the world time of their lives. These four years will be nothing but hell for them.

I love it :)

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>>720217523
If you still want to sell wood and buy products from the states you wont.

PS why would china buy your overpriced shit when they get it for building a little infrastructure in africa.

>>720219918
did you or someone else buy the plane ticket? are you an illegal?

>>720220091
We do not currently deport them and allow them to get jobs, driver's licenses and welfare.
We are going to stop that bullshit ASAP and deport all of them.
It doesn't matter how they get here.

Dude my ex graduated, is not finishing her master's, and still is an intern lol

>>720217850
Wtf euranon here, i love him. barack hussien obama started the rapugee crisis, fuck you leftist scumbag. RACE WARS NOW.

>>720220111
I lied about the plane, but I am illegal

>>720220155
Obama's deported more illegals than all US Presidents put together

Trump is on schedule to stay at-par with Obama's levels (ie deporting illegals who commit crimes).

>>720217523
In 2015 Republicans blocked a vote on an amendment that would have banned exports from the Keystone XL pipeline and require it be built with US steel.
Two years later Trump signs his executive order and says we will build it with our own steel and Republicans bust a nut over it.
Doesn't take a genius to see how much of a fucking joke this is.

>>720220097
Even in the art of Trump supporters, he still has tiny hands.

>>720220232
Didn't they always deport illegals that commit crimes? If so, he's doing nothing new

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>>720218378
Just stop the subhumans from breeding so damn much. if you put them in the schools with others the will disrupt shit. and the few stupid young women that get tainted by niggers will be detrimental to society. besides having niggers on the job isnt fun at all, if they even go to the job.

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>>720218378
Because what we do now isnt idocrazy.

>>720220337
>Didn't they always deport illegals that commit crimes?
nope

>>720220337
no. gw bush didn't deport anyone. are you a retard btw?

>>720218435
Lets just invade mexico and kill every one with less then 1550cc brain capacity.

>>720217255
>pretending to be a conservative

>not knowing the only ones who say "coastal liberal elitist" are liberals themselves

Way to go outting yourself, faggot.

>>720220337
How about execute?

>>720220402
Almost everyone at yale and harvard gets grandfathered in, I'm glad they get some minorities to fuck those chads up

>>720219950
the error here is that americans have no idea what Sakoku is.

If you voted for trump you are the scum of the earth

>>720220524
cry harder libcuck

>>720220447
wat?

conservatives coined the phrase "coastal liberal elitist" you retard.

god. damn. trump's retards are literally getting dumber everyday.

>>720219772
That's not superior at all when you realize that only considers 144,000 students between 8 schools. They may be highly sought after but realistically that isn't impressive.

You can find good tasting food in the ghetto but it's still shit.

>>720219282
An arab jew on top of that.

>>720220524

All i do is laugh while patting my massive erection

>>720219356
if trumps starts killing mussies hc then they wil indeed benefit.

>>720220427
Yeah because it's retarded to ask questions. Apparently.

>>720218142
>>720218188

you faggots must not have actually BEEN to college

When you make it free (literally no financial investment/barrier at all) for every single citizen, you end up with too many graduates and not even professional positions. Guess what that means? You get to sweep the street with a broom even though you've got a 6 year degree. Jobs don't just magically fall of the "job tree" for every person that graduates college, you fucking imbeciles.

>>720220570
I'm not even a liberal you dumb piece of shit, trump is a garbage fucking capitalist/republican in general

>>720219950
>>720220524

Do you guys honestly believe the U.S. is going to become totally isolated from the rest of the world by choice? What a bizarre idea.

>>720220570
No you Trump lump

>>720220097
they must do this, how the fuck did you americans accept this, if you poop out a kid yall get to stay.

>>720220596
they worked really hard for trump (those are Israelis btw).

and it worked.

>>720220232
Explain the pardons.

>>720220668
one can only hope

Last time America was this hard about a wall it was 1989.

>>720220594
>REEEEE someone called me out for my bullshit and my fake ass story didn't work WAAAAAA

>>720220699
the "anchor baby" policy. republicans passed it under gw bush.

>>720220659
>citation needed

>>720220497
christ sakes, you fucking traitor.

>>720220659
Again, there is solutions to that problem as well. I'm not going to disagree with you and say that that wouldn't be an issue. There will also be a need for a workforce of individuals doing more menial work. But free education and the aforementioned workforce are not mutually exclusive concepts.

>>720220108
China has already invested billions into the Alberta oil sands. Of course they are going to want to be involved. It's not US oil, it's Canadian. Just getting piped through the US.

>>720220609
Good to see you've got so much going for you in your life.

>>720220760
One day you'll realize it's class warfare not race

It'll probably be too late by then though

>>720220751
If you wouldnt ripped bush so hard he didnt had to look nice and shit. btw considering the crisis , bush did great and he won the shit out of wars.

fyi bush did not cause the crisis.

>>720220727
Who is "one"? Because literally nobody stands to benefit the U.S. isolating themselves. And no, your personal grievances of "Muricans are fat" or whatever is not a justifiable reason.

>>720217255
Oh, they are still paying. By not receiving billions in funds that they are now. Sort of indirect, but still at their expense. In essence, it will be taken from them, this paying for it all. For a long time. Lolololololol

>>720220824
this

The wall is kinda dumb (assuming it will begin development around population centers) because not many illegals cross into cities due to the heavy concentration of the Border Patrol, fencing, and other shit that makes it difficult to cross. Most illegals that do cross the border (not from expired visas) go through miles of inhospitable terrain with the help coyotes that would most likely end up using them a drug mules or just straight up robbing and killing them.

Overall, a dumb idea and waste of money since the number of illegals crossing have dropped drastically as well as the overall number of illegals living the US.

Oh well, at least I have front row seats of the creation of the wall because I live in a border city.

>>720220796
Yeah and you dont think that canada needs american infrastructure to refine that oil. :D you stupid fucks voted for that muslim loving cunt because of muh weed, i cant take you serious cnada cuck as the states has you by the balls.

>>720220497
Harvard is actually a really useless school if you look at how they graduate and the grading scale they use.

>>720220824
Its not though. it is just that you are in the lower tier of the race. aka poor ppl.
you can work your way out of poverty if you have the mind and discipline, you might have neither.

To anons talking about free college. It would work if you make entrance exams. Theres a limited number of spots in each program in a college. By making kids take the entrance exams you only get the best and brigtest. Not some dipshit who goes to school to smoke weed and finger fuck fat chicks, then drops out in he second semester. Its doable. You also greatly reduce he number of seats in nigger studies, gender studies and other useless bullshit.

>>720220885
The estimated cost of the wall vs. what Mexico receives in funds would take nearly two decades to pay off.

>>720216924
As Trump has made clear, he's going to cut or abolish aid to Mexico which will inturn pay for the wall.

>>720220771
They are NOT mutually exclusive, which was the exact point I just made in my post. They are very nearly entirely related. Stop trying with the pseudo-armchair socialist bullshit when you don't even know the definitions of the words you're using, clown. There will ALWAYS be a need for menial laborers. Why the fuck you think a society would benefit by wasting time and resources on someone to obtain a degree they will never use in that line of work doesn't even begin to make sense. Just reach into some rich guy's pocket to pay for whatever you want, right? Go fuck yourself.

>>720220840
Russian I don't understand your horrible grasp of English

have a translator write that again please. And what crisis are you referring to.

>>720220742
>rekt

>>720220851
the states being more self sufficient is the best thing that can happen.

>>720220957
>poor people are a race

>>720218652
Not the anon you replied to. A degree means nothing when everyone has one. That's the problem right now. College meant something when 95% of high school grads went to work for GM or Chrysler and make $20/hr right out the gate. This was when a new car was $6k mind you. Not only has inflation out ran the market compared to the past, but now the majority of kids are $25k or more in debt, have a worthless degree (not because they aren't educated, but because there are 3000 educated kids for 500 jobs), and the majority wind up working for barely more than minimum wage, with nothing more than crippling debt and lost time to show for it.

We need all the work we can get. In addition, the only way to make education better will be to either reduce the number of people being educated, or vastly increase the work available for them. Having decent entry level jobs for diploma level workers is a huge part of that. Fixing the public school system so kids aren't brainwashed into thinking they have to get at least a bachelor's or they'll die. Hell, they're probably just as likely to wind up on welfare with a degree as they are without. They best way to work the system right now is a trade school. By far. After that, the military if you're smart enough to get a technical job. At least then you'll have steady work and a free education, vs waiting tables and depending on credit to live.

>>720220966
Take your communist faggotry elsewhere, nigger. This is America, not Venezuela.

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>>720220966

>>720218895
carrier deal

>>720220977
BS, that wal makes money with in a quarter.

The wall is fucken nuts, I love it, but are there really that many mexicunts just strolling across? Are the tunnels and container methods the first class route or something?

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>>720220824
what if classes are based on race?

>>720220989
My point was having over-educated individuals performing menial work.

As for the rest, I guess the "conversation" is over. I didn't realize someone could get so out of control over such a trivial conversation.

>>720217421
To be a mental midget like you. Yesss.. complete moron, with little understanding of economics.

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>>720221016
Hates bush, cant read.

>>720221027
That leaves the blue ones.

What do we do about the red ones? Build walls around them?

>>720221094
Mexico receives ~24 billion USD each year. The wall is an estimated half a trillion.

I'm sure you can perform basic math.

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>>720221039
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BMXVZzvLXz8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>720220885
Really billions? Do any sort of research into that at all? Well here you go.
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/much-foreign-aid-united-states-give-mexico-d1238a7e5dd87a09#

It is no where near the billions needed for the wall.

>>720221039
Also i said of the race, you dumb fuck.

>>720221154
Not that anon but, but what 20 years? That supposed to be a long time?

>>720221120
I'm not "out of control." You're just a clown who's not half as smart as you think you are. Stay in school, kid, and don't get so bent out of shape when someone points out your stupidity in the future.

>>720218497
When those countries swamp you with illegal migrants, and only that country stands to benefit, then yes, swamp their shit until it's a fair trade.. on top of that, free trade means you are open to negotiate different deals with different countries. Very easy to understand

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>>720220897
the wall isn't just about illegal bean aliens slithering across the border, jessica. Chicago has an obscene number of murders each year because of their gang problem. the gangs get their drugs from mexico. if drugs weren't flowing across the border our ghettos would look...?

>>720221118
They're not, there's plenty of asian, white, indian, black, etc slums

Generally you're born into wealth, it's exceedingly rare for someone to go from being born poor into being rich and even more rare for someone born rich to become poor.

>>720217922
Exactly Canada is like America but but not fucked up

>>720221118
The south is dumb because they have admixture with niggers. one drop rule , just try and find the negroid feature next time you meet a dumb person.
or at least eye ball the size of the skull and you will find that being stupid is a genetic thing. being rich is a intelligence thing+ discipline.

>>720221237
Uh huh, whatever you say, my dude. You sure showed me by sperging out online. Political buzzwords, needless rhetoric and a false sense of superiority certainly is impressive, or not.

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>>720221314

>>720218926
It's happening.. #maga

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>>720221276
Papa trump is going to fix that problem too :3

>>720216924
Lol. Have you heard of bit coin or cash. People will also send via other countries like Canada or in the eu. Also even that famous liberal bill o Reilly says it will be impossible to enforce. Shouldn't you guys be going after Chicago gangster's or feminists. I'm British and 95%of Hispanic people I know want to work. Making a wall for a few ms13 gangsters is a waste of $$

>>720221219
Well considering the problem of illegal is a huge problem currently, yeah. 20 years is in fact a long time. Not to mention the wall could be very well overturned by the next president or Supreme Court long before hand.

>>720221354
>The south is dumb

what?

>>720221276
So? The cartels will get their drugs across the border with or without the wall, as they have the resources and the means to do so. If you want the gang problem to end, the war of drugs must end as well.

>>720221375
The fact that there's a place like that in a city is disgusting

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>>720221314
>it's exceedingly rare for someone to go from being born poor into being rich
What is learning c++ for 600 alex

Maybe it is just because there are exceedingly more dumb ppl around.

>>720216658
Why would anyone be pumped about building a wall? I mean short of papa trump finally shooting his yummy wad in your mouth.

Why would this get anyone genuinely excited?

>>720221354
So you are mostly nigger?

>>720221390
It isn't happening. There has been no official confirmation on the wall yet. And even when there is, you would be wise to wait for Congress' and the Supreme Court's response before passing final judgement.

>>720217584

>free health care for everyone

REEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WOULD I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE TREATED WHEN I HAVE TO PAY A DOLLAR EXTRA FOR IT

>hey let's build a wall that is totally useless, sure take my money for it, i love following blind orders and live in my little bubble of conservative backwards thinking

the toppest kek

>>720221392
exactly. those 228 shootings were all mexican drug related.

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>>720221522
Why would you deduct that from the information provided?

>>720221470
mexico needs a real government. the cartels run the show and that's what needs to end.

>>720221524
It's not like Trump voters or Trump himself know how things work.

>>720218652
Holy fuck. You can't even put together a semi-readable sentence supporting your belief, yet you want free college. Why don't you work on an elementary level education first.

>>720221538
Hahaha. Could you imagine Trump arguing that the "alternative facts" about Chicago is that all the ghettos are overrun with hostile black people hired by Mexican drug cartels to move drugs and kill the other cartel's pushers?

It's preposterous but I'm sure the extreme Trump cocksuckers will eat it up.

>>720221397
60% of legal immigrants from Mexico live below the poverty line. It's great that they want to work. They should stay in Mexico and fulfill this ambition, finally helping this benighted country shake its reputation for shiftless laziness.
Also
>bitcoin
Mexicans are still trying to work out the physics of showers and the chemistry of soap and you think they will use BC to get around regulations?
I'm skeptical, but even if that's true, the US is getting ready to crack down on BC due to its high potential for money laundering

Alright, I really have low expectations on this "wall" he wants. What will this "wall" be like? Some piece of shit that basically would render useless because money is an issue.

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>>720221484
You should see south africa, whites got uprooted out of their homes, places of work are now the homes of immigrant blacks. no western state even acknowledges them as refugees.

So what if we have to pay for it? It would be a fraction of our "Defense budget" It's a long term investment, Compounded with more border patrol funding we can significantly reduce illegals and incoming drugs to the US. Will this eliminate it 100%? of course fucking not, but at least he's making an effort.
You fucking morons
>hurrr durr I'm gonna have to pay this I'm a taxpayer
>once taxes rise with inflation ill have to pay an extra 30 cents a week, how am i supposed to survive

>>720221675
you act like the DEA doesn't already have evidence they are. you think niggers are growing cocoa and cooking meth? they get all their drugs from mexico.

>>720221371
I didn't use any buzzwords and I'm 100% sure you don't know the definition of rhetoric. Stop trying so hard to look like someone who has a position in this convo when all you're doing is copy/pasting a few phrases you saw someone else say and thought was cool. You're as desperate as someone's little 6 year old brother trying to hang around but completely oblivious the entire time.

>>720221631
I agree. Mexico is a complete shitshow, especially if you keep up with the news down there.

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>>720221530
Wall saves you money in the end.
Keeping niggers alive costs you more in the future.

How is that kid doing that got harambe killed, is he getting good grades?

>>720216658
thats my boy

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>>720216658

> MFW trump tards think a wall will be a solution

How can anyone be so dense? Any retard can take of a plane with a tourist visa and overstay it. It is estimated that between 27 and 40% illegal immigrants got in USA this way.

>>720221614
Because you are stupid

>>720218658
defence? Do you mean defense, you uneducated fuck?

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>>720221530
I actually don't mind spics. I just want the wall because I want to see the sad, healthcare-deprived faces of liberals when they see that their sex-change and contraception money went towards erecting a 2000 mile slab of concrete.

Free El Chapo!

>>720221154
You must also factor in the money we get back from infrastructure, defunding sanctuary cities, increasing green card fees, increasing tarrifs on imports from Mexico. Could be the cost of a wall in 2 years.

Good idea, Trump. The Chinese Wall sure kept those pesky Mongolians out. I'm sure this will work too.

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>>720221735
Eum are you fucking retarded, the biggest expense america has is caring for the nigger population.

>>720221749
Yeah nah. Don't get me wrong. Many of those deaths can be associated with drug use, presumably distributed somewhere along the lines by the drug cartels. But if you honestly believe that that's all it boils down to, then you're kidding yourself.

I was joking before. But I guess since you're serious, you should probably go back to sucking pappy Trump's orange cock.

>>720221732

he didnt doo nuffin

>>720221839
>anchor baby detected

>>720221397
>matters that dont concern me
>money is too difficult to track
who the fuck let you out of the kitchen?

those dumb americunts having a debt of over 20 trillions dollars and being on the verge of another economic collapse yet doing dumb shit like this, Mexico said many times they wont pay for it, lmao you dumb idiots will just waste more money on it plus will be losing money from Mexicans that work there

>>720221839
Thats why they added the biometric scanning part. you didnt read it or are a dumb idot with very low readinglevels.

>>720221839
And the other 60%-73% didn't, you stupid nigger. Which means THE MAJORITY cross the border on the ground.

Do you have a fucking head injury or what? You just made a point for the side you're trying to argue against, idiot.

This is what happens when kids just listen to their favorite pop star's opinion on politics and don't actually read anything themselves. Fucking tools.

>>720221869
Auto-correct mixed the two, nice comeback.

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>>720221863
OEi that hurts.

>>720221977

This. Keep the 3rd world in the 3rd world.

>>720221977
Well, explain how biometric scanning will keep someone to come legally in USA and overstay their visa.

>>720216658
Mexico won't pay for it, but I'm sure we can bring in enough illegals to build it.

By the way, shit like this increases the illegal immigrant population. Have fun with that.

>>720221898
Well certainly I would include them if there was any good estimates to how much money that would actually garner.

What is most interesting about things like taxing Mexico trades, increasing green card fees and that sort of thing, is that there is a glaring hole in your guy's plans. Something to do with economical well-being of a country and its rate of emigration (hint hint)

>>720221910
what are you babbling about? i didn't say anything about drug use. the gangs sell drugs. the violence is related to their drug dealing, and their drugs come from mexico because our border is a joke. why are you even sassing me? you're obviously out of your depth here. you're telling me to suck a dick like you don't already have three in your mouth. ridiculous.

Most immigrants come illegal on planes from Mexico soooo. Last time I checked the wall isn't gonna be 10,000 feet high. Fucking idiots

>>720220293
None of this is a joke.

>>720221839
8 month pregnant women won't be allowed on flights and I doubt adding a wall to the Sonora desert obstacles will make life easier or them.
The wall is a hardening of existing measures. Take a look at the refugee numbers in Hungary before and after they put up a fence.

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>>720221970
giving ppl money for work that neets should do so they can take that money back and out of us cash circulation is a bad thing, makay

>>720221988
Yeah right. I think you are the one who need to read a little more. Do you know anything about circular flow between borders? Increasing border enforcement actually prevent illegal aliens to leave, not to go in.

>>720222050
You scan the fucker and kick it out.

>>720220664
>I'm not a liberal

>crys and whines exactly like a betamale liberal

>>720217044
>He is going to tax remittances and shit, anon.


soo essentially he is going to steal? that's some nigger ass logic to get behind of son

>>720222131
they'll leave when they get deported.

>>720216658
I'm just shocked that for once a president is actually following through on campaign promises. I don't really care about the wall, I'm just glad he shut the TPP down.

>>720221524
Keep dreaming buddy. This new admin really handles it's shit

>>720222112

Because when border enforcement is reinforced, it tend to make border crossing workers to stay in the country they work. A wall seems an intuitive solution, but it actually has opposite results.

>>720222131
Good... good... that way I won't get out.

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>>720222103
Yeah and when they overstay you look in to their files and revoke all american bank access. see how long they will stay.

They cant move the cash true the border as they get scanned and pulled out, cash gets taken off them. nor can they hop the border, because of ....

>>720222172
>soo essentially he is going to steal? that's some nigger ass logic to get behind of son
Completely right, anon. I don't pay taxes either. What kind of nigger shit is that?
What kind of government taxes anything?

>>720222172
>I don't understand it
>must be theft

Liberal logic.

>>720222131
I can tell from your flim-flam butchery of English that you're clearly a hispanic. We know you're scared of the wall, but it's time for you to go back. If you need help leaving we can have ICE escort you across the wall. That's what they're there for. :^)

>>720222221
Damn off by Juan
>>720222222

>>720222250
>I don't pay taxes

I'm sure you like to think that.

>>720222193
Except he's not doing anything historically significant. Obama did the exact same thing the first days in office. Ignored some of his promises and immediately put into effect others through executive orders.

Obama was criticized quite heavily for the number of executive orders he's put through in his early days of office.

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>>720222002

>>720222190
They could just leave after their day of work for shitty jobs that nobody wants, but no, republicans want to spend money on walls and military for the exact same result. That doesn't seems smart.

>>720222172
no no no. he pledged blanket amnesty so essentially nobody will pay the toll and white america pays for the wall.

>>720222282
You pay taxes? Why do you let them steal from you?

>>720222164
Go job finding yourself

>>720222172
They earned the money illegally, whats next we are going to give bernie madoff all the money back that he scammed ???

>>720222078
We will just get quality migrants and push out the shiit

>>720222217
There is no "keep dreaming". There has been no official announcement confirming the existence of the wall. This is objectively true. It might change in the future, presumably tomorrow at the Homeland Security meeting but until then it would be wrong to assume anything else.

>>720222221
off by one

>>720222222

>>720222295
>shitty jobs that nobody wants,
shut the fuck up.

>>720216924
Lol retard u don't understand the purpose of the wall, its to reduce illegal border crossing

U think immigrant will be allowed to access the drug dealer tunnels? Nope

>>720222268
WRONG. English is indeed not my native langage, but i'm not Hispanic. Also, ad hominem attacks are the easy way for people with nothing to say to still exist in a conversation. So go on, i'll be happy to make you exist.

>>720222359
Except "quality migrants" are also being punished by this supposed plan to make Mexico pay for the wall. So your solution doesn't exactly make sense.

>>720222219
border crossers just go true the border gates, as mexico doesnt checks their borders.

>>720217106

Tax on exports to mexico = then end up paying for it

how simple do you fucks need me to get

>>720221711
There is other crypto. Currencies. Those poor Mexican families have some educated members that can teach the others how to remit cash. The wall is a waste of cash. Improving border patrols resources. And working with the non corrupt Mexican police against the cartels would be cheaper for USA tax payers.

>>720222446
I should've said Mexican "quality migrants".

>>720222456
That's how I got in, tbh

>>720220232
Obama changed how they are processed and counted, Bush was just packing them off in busses and dumping them across the border without doing any paperwork.

>>720222382
except drug dealers make people pay to cross the border, so you really don't know what you are talking about.

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>>720222446
It will hurt mexico more than us, paco.

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>>720222446
>Mexico produces quality migrants.

>>720222274
KEK

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Nothing else to say but good.

>>720222524
Why are you bragging about getting in to mexico you dumb spic?

>>720222537
I wasn't discussing how much it would "hurt". The whole plan of bringing in people from Mexico to build the wall doesn't make sense because the supposed strategy of getting Mexico['s money involves heavily taxing said migrants.

You want workers but you also want to shoot those workers in the feet. It doesn't add up nicely.

>>720222545
I wasn't the one to bring it up, mon ami.

>>720222442
Nigger, you can't even speak half-way proper English don't even try to be some nerdy armchair-faggot like you've made some kind of point because you copy pasted "ad hominem" after seeing it for the 1,000 time on different threads and think you're cool. You stick out like a sore fucking thumb kid. Luckily that's just what immigration officers are looking for and will spot you without any trouble and put you back where you're supposed to be.

>>720222630
Getting drugs there are good to bring back.

>>720217733
You're so smart

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>>720217512
dats so cute.

fuckin saved

>>720222001
How does it auto-correct to defence? There is no such word. Nice try lying nigger.

>>720222649
No

>>720222778
"Defence" is the proper spelling of defense in British-English.

>>720222805
Yes

if tunnels are going to happen are any of you faggots going to try use them in the name of science?

>>720222778
Kek, I'm just trolling I'm not the same poster as the one you originally replied to. But honestly that word is on auto-correct(atleast on my keyboard).

>>720221732
why do people have sympathy for niggers?

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If anyone thinks the wall wont stop beaners then you should have a look at recent history.

>>720222870
No because said illegal migrants dont fucking pay taxes.
NO.

>>720222979
Trump would never use illegal migrants. That would be hypocritical to his campaign statements. Remember, the illegal migrants are taking jobs away from Americans.

>>720222846
It's from the southern States.

>"See defence dere? We's gonna take it up and build uh wall"