Anybody else trying really fucking hard not to drink?

>>720056533

Yeah. My longest streak was two weeks back in 2015.

Current streak: 48 minutes.

Hold on, OP! Have some delicious iced tea instead, or some chocolate milk.

>>720056533
its easy when you're broke

>>720056931
can confirm

>>720056685
I've still got time to stop this. Just wish this feeling in the pit of my stomach would leave. And this agitation, fuck

I never think

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>>720057593
clearly

>>720056931
easier*

>>720056533
Just turn muslim

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>>720058603
I'd rather jump off a bridge

>>720058759
kek, i mean it helps against drinking right ? muslims arent allowed to drink

No because drinking is gross. All it really gets you is fucking dizzy. Getting dizzy isn't work the negative effects of alcohol. If you wanna forget shit, just buy a strong Indica strain of weed a smoke it. No downside, just a good night sleep. Maybe some cotton mouth but that's it.

>>720058929
Not being jaded helps more

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Just stop. I'm on my fifth year with only a few slips.

>>720056533
Made it about 20 days on this new years resolution. At this current rate I'll be sober around age 50.

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>>720056533
Do you mean "Is anyone else a crippling alcoholic?"

Nope.

>>720056533
every fucking day, i restrict myself to a pint of whiskey a week, drink half on friday when i buy it, the other half on saturday, stay dry all week

>>720059219
I'm a stoner before I'm an alcoholic /b/ro

Herb bandaids much better. Much much better

Herb on the other hand does not help my repressed feelings

>>720056533
Piss off Rob

>>720059406
I wouldn't use the word crippling. More like functioning.

>>720059612
That's my father's name faggot. Not mine

>>720059473
You're still under 13 units a week which is where cardiomyopathy risk greatly increases

You're doin fuckin good dude.

>>720059544
You need help then. Weed and vidya or movie always cheers me up.

>>720056533
When I drink I drink. When I don't I don't. Inbetween I try not to dwell on it anymore. Spent most of my 20s as an alcoholic. Spent 2016 making the proclamation that I am an alcoholic and fighting it, and it was like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Had 3 months of perfect righteous purity and the pendulum swung so hard the other direction I spent 6 months drunk. Now I choose not to let it rule me. I have some alcohol when I feel like it, and I don't when I don't feel like it. I still go overboard if I let myself but I don't spend days dwelling on it. Focus on each day.

>>720060331
distracts us*

>>720060773
No. I don't stay sad. I get depressed, lonely, etc. I'm still human. I just let those feelings fester, because that's pointless. Just have to find your little moments of happiness every day.

>>720061548
Believe me homie it doesn't fester voluntarily. Traumatic events don't just go away though.

>>720062200
Well of course not. Just need to find someone to talk to. Learn from them tho. How you can be better for having experienced it. Don't let past storms ruin future sunny days.

>>720062799
It's really hard for me to reply to this without sounding like a whiny attention seeking faggot but

What would you say if those events affect your future? Such as false charges affecting job availability?

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>>720056533
>>720057566
>>720062200
>>720063311

>>720056931
it's easy when you're not an alcoholic.

>>720063311
I'd say fuck dude, you got screwed over by an imperfect system. However, don't let it stop you, sure it gonna be harder now, but not impossible. Can't find a job is you're sitting around drinking. Remember that drinking and getting high is a privilege of having spending money. No job=no spending money.

i currently possess no alcohol to drink, so i'm not trying very hard, lol

most times, though...

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>>720063800
And today I learned not every /b/tard is a faggot

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>finally stopped drinking
>Started smoking weed again
I honestly don't know which one makes me more degenerate/lonely.
I mean at least with the drink I could tolerate my alcoholic friends. But I've yet to meet any stoners I don't want to hit, even the dispensary guys are cringe as fuck.

>>720064135
>And today I learned not every /b/tard is a faggot
No worries /b/ro. Everyone needs some help sometimes. Try not to let life get you down.

>>720064575
Herb makes it easier to be lonely than booze

Look at it like I look at /b/. I don't associate myself with what most of these cucks do, but still enjoy the benefits.

>>720056533
Keep at it anon. Not drank or smoked in 10 days now.

>>720059219
>just gets you dizzy
Underage b&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWoNBiL4c6M

Have some good ass trap for your time anons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCx4qdvby94

shiiieeet love that middle eastern sound

>>720065199
22 actually, drinking sucks. Alcohol in general is gross. People have tried telling me "oh you just drink cheap shit." but I've tried stolichnya, I've tried titos, I've tried patron, both silver and rospado. I just don't like it. Beer is too bitter for my taste, and girly drinks are OK but the negatives outweigh the positives for me.

Drinking sucks.

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first off..
Bump.
Second, i think my best is 6 days in a row over the last 5 years.
I feel so different, at different times when drinking, i cant get a firm hold on it.
Some days, ill drink, and its nothing.
Others, im tipsy, and loving how im an a drinker.
Rarely do i feel good though, in an emotional way.
There's times when im actually out socially drinking, and just cant help but know, ive drank 5-10x this much by myself, over X period.
I wanna stop, but \i cant really smoke the weeds, cause of various things.
i feel calmer smoking.
i dont smoke as often as i drink, at all..
But i guess thats why its illegal, right?
But the problem is that i cant stop thinking about X or Y topics.
They bring me down to a leve where i can help but seek out a substance to alleviate the pain/issues.
It just a manner of the legal ones vs the unwanted ones, in society.

>>720056533
Yeah
Hardest part is the social part, honestly forgot how to be around people sober and almost everyone I know smokes and drinks regularly
Last 2 times i drank socially i ended up blacking out. First time i called my friend a cunt I guess, 2nd time i was dancing with a friend of a friend at a club and guess i moved her hand onto my boner, ended the night quick, feel like real scum etc, haven't talked to her since. Have to quit.

>>720066319
Almost al booze tastes like shit anon. It's like coffee, drink enough and you enjoy it or at least drink it for the effect eventually

I drink cabernet sauvingnons for the taste sometimes.

>>720066600
Fuckin a' bro. It's like having to learn everything all over again isn't it?

I'm still not there, if I'm not stoned or drunk I just don't have the same charisma. People just aren't interested in talking or hanging out.

>>720056533
Nope!

Rum, rum, in my tum
Works real quick when up my bum

>>720064953
>Herb makes it easier to be lonely than booze

Agreed. It's so easy to find entertainment in solo activities when you're high that necessity for social interaction decreases. But alcohol can enable you to "let go" in a way that weed just can't. Being drunk is like wrapping yourself in a warm blanket, and even if it's a depressed drunk the warmth is still there, it's difficult to prescribe. You feel the sadness more strongly but at the same time you're more comfortable with it. Weed, especially when smoked repeatedly and frequently, just puts my mind in a haze that dulls out emotions and thoughts and the days just sort of pass in this foggy nothingness. It can also be sad but in a different way, less potently apparent

>>720066841
Wines are ok, gives the Shittiest hangovers tho so again, I'm out unless it some super nice crap.

>>720066319
Beer's fucking delicious once you get an affinity to it

>>720056533
Drink 2 beers a day. Nice and relaxing after a long day's work.

>>720067506
I really like this strategy but the problem with me is that once I start drinking I don't wanna stop. I have no problem abstaining from drinking altogether but keeping a few beers from turning into a wastoid binge is harder. There's just something so grating about having to stop after I've just started to get those good feels

>>720067040
Yeah, man, it's tough
I think the main reason i started drinking often was the liquid courage/charisma aspect of it, never really learned how to be comfortable around people
Booze just makes it harder in the long run though

>>720067887
Same
Then the hangover hair/hare/whatever of the dog cycle is more likely to start and then ur fucked

>>720067333
You know this struggle as well as I do unfortunately... I'm sorry for that man

It's too easy not to talk to people when you smoke every day. You get that excitement, that enjoyment you normally only get from social interaction and going out. Fucked up part is when you stop enjoying things unless you're stoned.

As dumb as it sounds when it comes to drinking the sadness is desirable for me. Apathy does things to your brain.

>>720067929
I can tell you the main reason and it's not what you think

It's just too hard to open up around people, show them that side of us. We're too guarded and don't know how to put that wall down.

And we're both really fucking good at utilizing substance.

more good ass trap for you anons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdPw1gvblGA

>>720068888
Checked u alcoholic fuck

>>720068888
Seems kinda optimistic, but might be on to something there
I think drinkers are more likely to have a realistic sense of how feel chemicals work mechanically vs. how they make the world seem, dunno, that make any sense? Natural self-medicators instead of brooders. Then again there's a lot of brooding old man drunks it seems, dunno.

>>720070092
Nah man. That side is in the both of us or it wouldn't come out when we're intoxicated. Now.. I'll be a little optimistic and say we'll both find a way around it.

Drinkers have to follow the rule of emotion. Tokers don't. I completely agree.

You sound just like me lmao.

>>720070686
There's an alcoholic brotherhood man
Wonder if that's the main reason AA apparently works, it's not the giving up to a higher power part, it's more you're around a bunch of like-minded people in person, can help eachother out more easily

>>720071505
It's the reason I posted this thread... Misery loves company.

Everyone I know who's gone to AA or NA turned into a fucking jesus freak though. Maybe it's easier for them to find solace in religion than company?

>>720072181
I never liked the AA/NA philosophy. I don't like the idea of an addict being helpless to his "disease" and therefore having to give over his free will to God so that God can save him because he is incapable. Fuck that, addicts should except that they made the decisions and that they also have the full power to overcome their urges. I don't know, that seems much more fulfilling to me. Actually getting to say you beat it completely on your own and that you accept responsibility for your choices instead of playing the victim.

By the way I say this as someone who has had trouble with excessive drinking before so it's not like I'm a judgemental asshole, I feel that way about my self to. Nobody is responsible for my drinking except my own lack of self control, certainly no "disease" or whatever.

more good ass trap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqfr6IiEBgE

>>720072607
I'm gonna use my late friend Trevor as an example

When you feel like you have nothing left (keyword feel), it doesn't matter how you come out on top. What life has to give just isn't enough anymore. Submitting is important since you don't feel like you can do it on your own any more.

RIP Trevor. Miss you man.

>>720072181
Probably, yeah. You go from a designated liquid happy place to a designated inner happy spiritual place, my bet is something like meditation could definitely help people speed up quitting

There's something about people who meditate a lot though, not sure if it's all the meditation or just the type of people who gravitate toward it, but it seems like it's almost a kind of drug. Same with people who lift all the time. Or like Sam harris for instance, he's pretty much full blown monotone euphoric all the time it seems, weirds me out a bit
Seems like if you start meditating or lifting or praying constantly you're just swapping addictions
Dont know what I'm talking abt though, obviously there's a difference, dunno what i'm getting at

can't say i've tried really hard not to drink

started drinking two years ago and was getting close to cutting down but life seems to be a complete prick and knocks me down when i get to kneeling on my way back up

>>720073319
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against help groups and if you think you'll have a better shot at doing it with some help then I would encourage you to do that. But I think there is something fundamentally different between getting the help you need to build your own strength and just saying god save me and then even after you've beat it still insisting it was jesus and that without his magic hand in the sky you couldn't have done it.

Because you know what that means? Unless you're actually religious and believe there really is a god helping you, it means all you had to do was THINK that somebody was helping you to actually beat it when in reality you beat it all by yourself. Well, with the help of the group, yes, but the god thing is just a silly delusion. So forget the Jesus up my asshole nonsense, just realize it's the encouragement and advice of real people in the room with you that helps you beat, not some ethereal fucker in the sky.

Anyway, just my personal opinion. Sorry to hear about your friend man, may he rest in peace

>>720059956
hmm...
what about 18 350ml beers (5% alc. vol.)??

>>720074649
per week

>>720060610
my problem is i always feel like drinking

people ask me why i drink and i always tell them because i like it.

alcohol seems to make things comfy and enjoyable, but weed makes me just be in a weird fog unless i get the amount just right

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>>720056533

Nope

>>720068193
tbh i'v found the best hangover cures are just aspirin, water, and not moving at all.

or just puking and getting it over with, evey time i've been hung over to the point of puking i've hurled a couple times and felt 75% better (albeit still in a grog) the rest of the day

>>720057566
I actually know… you're not alone

>>720074429
There is a fundamental difference.. But those who truly give a shit about that don't end up in AA/NA. It's anything and everything that can help them at that point, be it a poorly constructed house or not. They're gonna live in it.

Like I was saying it's a combination of submitting (feeling like you're taking the control out of your own hands) and having other miserable motherfuckers around you.

Religion pisses me off too anon, but this is one example where it actually helps people

>>720066319
this. i spent years looking for a brand of booze that didn't make me want to vomit. i sort of settled on apple schnapps, which gets you fucked up really quick without much fucked up aftertaste, but after that it's all downhill. it's sort of like going on a scenic holiday in a formula one racing car. you don't have time to enjoy it.

also booze is supposed to be a social lubricant. if you're drinking alone, you are circling the drain.

I'm not an alcoholic and I've never been an alcoholic.

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>>720075939
>if you're drinking alone you're circling the drain
>i only like to drink alone

fug

>>720056533

i'm actually highly considering taking up heavy drinking. Depression is just getting deeper and deeper every year and i think i need to find a way to numb it a bit.

Yep. Gave landlord/roommate notice a week ago that we're moving out. His response?

> Pulled the fuse on the washer, dryer, dishwasher, and furnace.
>Disabled wifi
> Emptied the fridge and freezer
> Put half my wife's shit out on the lawn

His reasoning is "we won't be paying utilities next month so we can't use them".

Fuck that guy.

>>720076674
All that bullshit is illegal. Landlords cannot make a unit uninhabitable on purpose.

Call your city's code enforcement office. Depending on where you live your landlord may be financially liable to you now.

Source: I'm a landlord.

>>720076628
drinking while you feel like shit is only going to leave you a mess tbh. last time i got drunk in a bad mood i ended up crying because of one time i accidentally hit my dog with a rock (didn't hurt him at all)

>>720077353
this
every time i drink when Im sad I message everyone i know and say stupid shit

>>720077040
I'm not even worried about it. We have a 10x16 storage unit to chuck everything in, and we can stay with friends for a couple of weeks. It's not worth it. This is the kind of guy who'd set your car on fire and pretend he was at a funeral, tears and all.

I may leave raw chicken in the air vents, though. Definite possibility.

>>720077859
I once messaged an ex who I knew was married and asked her for a meatball recipe.

>>720075939
Agreed, I'll still drink with friends, but I'm drinking shit like screwdrivers or hard ciders. They all call me a chick but as long as I enjoy the idc what I'm called.

>>720056533
Oddly no, bought a 24 from the weekend for the free shirt had about 7 that night fri havent touched it again. The funny thing is i keep saying i should get drunk

>>720077859
i learned to not message certain people when i'm drunk

>>720058603
You drink?
REMOVE HIS HEAD FOR ULLAH,

>>720077901
do fish instead of herring, the smell never goes away

>>720078263
do fish like herring instead of the chicken

dammit the withdrawal is fucking with my head

>>720056533
I don't have a drinking problem 'cept when i can't get a drink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tPymxhwaEE

>>720057566

going through the same thing man, I feel you. Harder for me to keep my mind off of it knowing that my roommate has been in the fridge. Shit's taunting me.

>>720078368
I'll figure something out. He's also left the dryer vent in cleaned for years so it's almost completely clogged with lint. I have half a mind to set a spark to it while I'm "at work" one night and leave a few useless items of mine inside to pretend I have no idea what happened.

Then again, I'm not that much of an asshole. I just want out of the place is all.