It sure is
Why do you want to kill the cow ?
Rofl, Nty. Kys vegan libcuck
you did not get my point, sir.
But stil, have some ribs
Ya know, I might actually try veganism one day. I recognize that the methods we raise our livestock are ultimately unsustainable and it could be better if the meat industry shrank some. There's just two things that keep me from doing it.
I love the taste and texture of meat and they can't widespread recreate that with plants yet.
Out agriculture systems are just as unsustainable.
No, maybe a couple hundred thousand years ago, but since the very beginning of man we've been hunter-gatherers. We eat meat and vegetables. Our bodies are adapted to getting the best nutrients out of both meat and veg.
I don't keep much but gif at the link. file size is too large.
it's clearly worse when i get drunk with these
you don't know how the milk is produced, do you?
I will make a tip. it involve cows and milking them.
then boil on 100'C the milk to sterilize it. then packet it in bags. hahaha, fagot.
because they eat live beings.
the meat lovers eat death creatures.
the vegans devour live tissue- the plant is still alive. you can still put a carrot in the ground and start growing.
you are a hypocritical faggot.
You want me to give traps a try too faggot? Ill stick to tearing mutilated animals flesh apart with my teeth thank you.
Water the cow also pisses out, it's not like cows are water destroying fusion factories. There is absolutely nothing wrong with cows making milk out of the water they drink. It's like bitching at how much water whales drink.
This is bullshit.
All but one vegan I know (so 4 vegans out of 5) are incapable of eating 90% of vegetables and don't like fruit. They eat spaghetti with tomato sauce, fried rice and french fries all day. Every once in a while they eat a fucking salad but heaven forbid they get some actual nutrition. They're all overweight. One even became anemic at one point (while dozens of pounds heavier than she should be) and her doctor said that either she goes back to eating steak, or she eats some fucking spinach. She "looked online" and is now taking dietary supplements. They're all surviving right now but I can assure you these people will hit diabetes well before most omnivores do.
The poison is in the fucking dosage. Water becomes toxic if you eat too much of it. The chances of meat consumption at moderate, recommended levels (people usually eat way too much, however) is an incredibly tiny risk to your health.
I didn't know Gandhi disliked Trivial Pursuit. SO we agree on that, at least.
They can do some pretty good meat substitutes. Just come back from Vietnam where there are whole menus of very tasty and realistic 'fake meat' products for the (mainly) Buddhist vegetarians.
so you want the cows to die by dehydration.
this is hypocritical. you want the production of milk to stop but this will kill all of the cows. and you can't make a cow to stop to give milk. that's its main purpose. and if you make a cow to stop give milk it still will want water. sooooooo....
you the animal lover will be responsible for killing an animal.!?!?!?!?!?!
still faggot. X/
Omg look at these poor vegetables getting slaughtered.
Fuck you talking about queer? You obviously never had a steak before huh? Fuck dude a good steak is worth more than that.
If slaughterhouses had glass walls then they'd all be out of business yes, but not because of ethics or anything because glass walls break easily. And there'd still be the lucky few who could get meat.
The "naturalness" of antibiotics is irrelevant. People use them to kill other living things, wherever they come from. The poster who would not eat meat because killing any living thing is wrong can't then say "But if I use natural means to do it, it is OK."
Well, I guess they can, people can say any fool thing they want to say. But it invalidates the argument against eating meat.
Good one man you assume im from a country thats far superior to yours in anyway but you dont know where im from and it shows how sad you are. Fuck dude id kill a man to live in america. Europe is fucking disgusting.
I enjoy stake just as much as the man. But I do disagree with the way animals are farmed. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't cut meat out of your diet completely. Buy free ranged eggs and grass fed stake. If everyone did that there wouldn't be a fucking problem. Grow the fuck up you fucking sissies and grow a pair. Humans are atop of the food chain and recognize the right of other humans. Animals don't recognize the rights of others or themselves so why should they be given rights to life?
so you want to be a stupid 'merican like Beavis and Butt-Head and to be a traitor to europe.
it speaks too much about you.
btw I'm from east europe and we have milk in bags, too.
but this doesn't change the fact that you are a faggot.
This sort of thing interests me. Anybody who crew up on a farm knows where meat comes from, and what has to b done to get it. City folk grow up thinking meat magically appears in the refrigerated bins at the back of the grocery store, and are shocked when they learn that there is blood and icky stuff involved.
Vegans, in modern industrial societies, are silly children who got a huge shock when they realized how retarded they had been for years.
Anybody who ever helped butcher a hog knows a ground truth about meat that these idiots never learned -- and knows what a hog is for, and how to convert it into delicious and wholesome food.
>so you want to be a stupid 'merican like Beavis and Butt-Head and to be a traitor to europe.
oh.. sorry my bad. I thought that you are from europe. the continental one not the islands.
the brits never thought about themselves that they are from europe.
anyway you are still faggot a hypocritical one.
you will know why.
>City folk grow up thinking meat magically appears in the refrigerated bins at the back of the grocery store, and are shocked when they learn that there is blood and icky stuff involved.
Grew up in the city still went hunting every year. Still field dressed and butchered our meat. Don't think everyone is naive
>Buy free ranged eggs and grass fed stake. If everyone did that there wouldn't be a fucking problem.
There would be a sustainability problem -- trendy "back to nature" approaches to agriculture produce less food, raising food prices and increasing the prevalence of malnutrition.
Fair enough, I was about to add a bit about hunters, but the comment was getting too long.
Point is, naive vegans think their shock images of "OMG, animals died to make my meat" will shock us all into giving up delicious and healthy food. Many of us, who grew up knowing where meat comes from and having helped convert animals into it, we look at those and shrug and think the vegans are insane. OF COURSE that's where meat comes from. Please pass the chicken...
how many gallons of wate do you thinkr were wasted in creating a house, computer, or phone for an ass-backwards person like you. kys
oh boy a hipster. eat organic food, blaaah,blaaah,blaaah,blaaah!
so to kill more wild creatures just to satisfy your faggotry. oh wait.....
if I start to kill wild cratures just to eat you will start to complain about killing them because they are wild.
dude you are fucking hypocritical.
You know what man, I'll go Vegan for a week if you can post me some meal recipes that aren't 200% disgusting
That is stupid then. Nobody is going to keep millions of worthless cows alive in cow retirement homes after the value of said caws drops to zero from lack of demand. And either way, your condemning the species to extinction.
We did Blue Apron for awhile -- one in three meals was vegetarian, if not vegan. About 1 in 3 of those was pretty tasty, the rest were disappointing.
Prepare to eat lots of pasta.
>The idea would be to stop breeding the animals and let them die off naturally. no starvation, no dehydration
they can't stop giving milk. you moron. they were and still are selected with this purpose -FOOD.
and if you want to make all other people to hunt wild animals for living read my previous reply>>720010432
Bloody Mary's and sangria are meals now?
>Moving water is expensive and not profitable except in places where it's already plentiful for some reason.
One reason the "eat locally produced food" people are morons. Eat food from places where it can be grown more economically. It may cost maore, and do more environmental damage, to eat a tomato grown in your area if it is not suited for tomatoes, than to let somebody else grow it where less fuel needs to be used transporting fertilizer or pumping water, even when you consider the fuel used to bring you the finished tomato.
>you can't make a cow to stop to give milk
>And I'm willing to bet people would keep some alive for the very reason of preserving a species.
Like orangs in a zoo. So the extinction of them in the wild is not a problem anymore, cool.
Methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. Cow eradication would do more good to combat "climate change," if you think it needs combating, than anything you can do with CO2 reduction. Of course, things like bacteria and wild termites are even bigger methane (and similar) emitters than cows...
I can tell you farms in places like NM waste a whole lot of water growing vegetables. It's so dry they have berms around the fields and they flood the fields with a foot of water and let it soak in other wise nothing will grow. Then they water the vegetables every other day because the evaporation rate is so high. Miss watering everything dies and you get to start over
theres about 5 or 6 wild cow types, more if you include bison and wisent.
seriously though, try ostrich if you can find any. britfags can buy it at lidl or iceland
Stop shoving your beliefs down everyone's throat please. You make all of us fucking vegans look like moronic and arrogant faggots. Trust me, there are plenty of other ways to promote veganism, and this isn't one of them.
like I said I'm from east europe and I like in a farm village.
but a well educated hypster like you probably know that if a cow is not milked she.. sorry you know this animal by IT.. will get a "tits obstruction". I don't know how this is translated properly on english. but simple to say their tits-glands start to "milk-calcite"- the milk is drying inside and block the tits-holes. then the cow may get tumors. but for a hypster like you this is irrelevant.
like I said before they the cows are created ONLY for food and labor.
and you are still a faggot.
You're really keen on everyone eating ostriches.
We ausfags are still salty at the emu's in the great Emu war. So we will eat them instead when the new world order comes under the supreme ruler trump.
im not vegan but milk is disgusting. No mammal drinks milk after they have been weaned. Thats why we become lactose intollarant after not drinking milk.
I think the only time I've heard convincing argument for veganism is from people who just say they hate the taste and texture of meat for being all bloody and spongey and stuff
My justification for eating meat is that I tend to just get a lot of migraines when I don't eat red meat or fish. I'd seriously change the world to stop the eating of animals if I could, or I'd have us all cloning up cow muscle in a vat and stimulating it with electricity to make it less fatty, but things as they are I'm sure not gonna stop doing what keeps me strong with my own personal evolutionary biology.
>hard to really measure how much more or less water goes into a meal of meat compared to that of an equal salad
No it's not. Here are a few
Tofu at 302 gal./lb.
Lentils 705 gal/lb
Chickpeas 501 gal./lb.
Pasta at 222 gal./lb.
Barley 237 gal./lb.
walnuts 1,260 gal./lb.
almonds and cashews 1,929 gal./lb. and 1,704
pistachios 1362 gal/lb
Asparagus 258/gal /lb
lettuce 98 gal./lb
Corn 309 gal./lb.,
soybean 502 gal./lb
You're right. They should have used the Head too. Tongue is delicious!
Awman I fucking love roo. The hardest part is aiming at the cunts when fuckin jezza is driving like a mad man and dazza can't hold the fucking spot light sit the poofta. And if you don't get em in the right spot they just keep on hopping and when they finally drop after 5 solid shots you gotta pick the metal out. Real fucking cunts to actual kill and eat. But so fucking worth it when ya cook that sucker up on the barby and sit back with a beautiful kanga stake and VB.
look moron they milk. not like a full grown up cow -between 10-14 liters per day. much less 1-2 liters but still milk. so the choice for a farmer is to kill the animal because is too expensive to maintain she must to be milked daily even for 2-liters very sour and bad milk because she will die by "cystitis"- the local name for this ill. or to give birth and produce milk.
not much of a choice!?!?!?!
collodial silver is complete bull! you're not vegan, you're voodoo.
LoL man I have this friend that fucker will go in eat two double woppers, fries and a shake every time and he's skinny as fuck. Been doing that shit for years. I'm waiting for that shit to catch up with him. It's been a long wait
WHY do you think vegans eat without hurting or "killing" anything?
Food plants (vegetables, fruits) are usually having multiple cells, while each cell got its very own specialization.
Such as the human and the animal body do have too.
We cant for sure say that plant/fruit/crop/vegetable doesnt have feeling but we expect it to not have any kind of feelings and emotions, neither consciousness.
How do we know? Just because it doesnt talk and show reactions?
Well the reactions im not this sure about. many plants, bushes, trees, ect. do actually show different reactions to threatening actions.
It should be known very well. we live in the 21st century.
All in all its very hard to say that veggies are better than meaters.
MAybe a plant does experience as much as a pain as a cow or some pig or chicken does. Maybe not.
Going emotional here, on this topic, is very wrong.
Any of you meat eaters used a. 338 winchester?
Man watching possums, rabbits, foxes, dingos, and kangaroos drop after a well place.shot is just awesome. Once after getting fucking smashed we tried and failed at road killing a kangaroo. Fucking dazza fell out the back of the Ute and broke his arm the fried cunt.
I've eaten Brain. And I'm not mad. Not even at you. It's all about how the Animals are raised. Healthy Cows don't have BSE.
The thing about hippies like vegans is that they are the same kind of people that talks to their plants to make them grow better. But it the plant responds to a talk doesn't it means it's cruel to kill it for sustenance?
Not true, you will eat all the plants they need for survival. By not eating animals they will run amok and starve, or possibly cease to exist as they are no longer needed as a food source. That's evolution baby.
Nope, you'll wipe out vast supplies of water trying to grow more plants.
Nope, Ethiopia, how's their grow rate doing?
not even going to bother with this idiotic idea
How the fuck is eating plants going to make the world more compassionate? You'd be better served trying to abolish religion.
again, you are eating their food source if they are herbivores, or overcrowding/overrunning their species if they are prey. Too many will cause them to starve.
Humans are, by design, omnivores. Teach them to eat properly, not remove a necessary component of their diet.
sure thing hippy
You've eaten all the plants and taxed resources by trying to overproduce what should be a normally renewable resource.
Better idea would be to put you in a space ship and you can grow your plants on your way to colonize another planet before you fuck up mine.
>It's all about how the Animals are raised.
Has nothing to do with how they are raised it's an infectious agent. diseases can arise in three different ways: acquired, familial, or sporadic. primary method of infection in animals is through ingestion. prions may be deposited in the environment through the remains of dead animals and via urine, saliva, and other body fluids. They may then linger in the soil by binding to clay and other minerals.
the hyptrers may use the ORGANIC METHOD.
they used this back in Victorian England or Britain, don't care when but before the antibiotic discovery.
if you have syphilis. you must to be infected with malaria. then when you get high body temperature about 39,2'C you must to hold it for 3-4 days with Quinine. the Schweppes can't help you. and then to cure the malaria with the Quinine. if you can. IT'S SO HYPSTER!!!!
I have no problem with anyone who is vegan, but holy shit are the arguments here sanctimonious. Do you vegans like it when people pester you to change your beliefs and adopt their worldview? Because that is what you are doing.
I'm guessing the water is how much said cow needs to grow into adulthood, since pasteurization requires little water. Are you suggesting it's better for cows to not live to save water?
>Probably sucking dick.
Obviously you were sucking dick instead of paying attention. Bacteria (singular: bacterium) are a major group of living organisms.
Let's post vegan propaganda pictures & quotes that aren't remotely true.
Don't get me wrong, I love veggies but it's one part of a diet. There is a reason most vegans and vegetarians look emaciated.