Gavin is what I like to call a real person. No lies. Straight up. A great honest human being. If he ran for president I would vote for him. And he'd probably win. And he'd probably do a really good job and fix a lot of people's lives. Millennials should especially listen to him.
Hes a member of the "Alt-light", people who dont go full redpill but yet are pretty on board with the alt right. pretty much everything except for the Jewish Question. I dont think the Alt Light is the worst thing ever though. It brings people into the movement.
Plus him punching some guys outside of the deploraball was pretty cool
>>719993289 >go fuck yourself with this le alt le right meme bullshit, and stick with your own kind. >meme >Got a president elected OK Nigger. You wanna hold another vote recount for Hillary, would that make you feel better in your safe space? Maybe you wanna do another hashtag rally? Maybe tell people Trump isn't your president, hmm?
>>719991398 Of course not stupid. They're unabashedly gay. Having to go through this whole proud boys shit is just a knee jerk reaction to being buttflustered by the liberal douches. The real shitty sjw cunts don't deserve a platform - by creating this faggoty movement, you're validating their whingey cry baby shit, while at the same time having to constantly reaffirm your masculinity because it's somehow been brought under fire. It hasn't. It never was. Dickheads are dickheads, and they shouldn't be dignified with a response, let alone a boys club. I used to like some of his stuff, but a lot of he shit feels like just an angry response to the left. It just feels like overcompensation. I tend to lean more towards Ben Shapiro, even though some of the shit he says is questionable. At least he's a straight shooter, and for the most part just comes at you with facts - at least with the political shit anyway. Not this touchy feely male empowerment crap.
>>719989668 >I'm tough and manly >Kids these days have forgotten how to be tough and manly like me >I'm not afraid to tell it like it is >Women are pussifying everything and it's my job to show men how to be men coz I'm super manly >everyone look at how manly I am >Video games aren't manly >Here are some manly stuff, I know they're manly coz MEN used to do this stuff and they don't anymore except me coz I'm a real man: changing oil, riding motorbikes, boxing >So much testosterone >Please give me attention >Look at my manly tattoos >Fucking pussy liberals playing video games, buncha nerds >Please acknowledge my manliness >I wear manly suspenders and a beard and I like manly things guys really I'm super manly
>>719993940 I don't even play video games but that feels like more of an approximation of what he thinks a man should be like. He's just so obsessed with this whole western male chauvinism diarrhea that it's cringey. Who gives a shit what you do with your spare time.
>>719993994 Okay, no problem, but if someone punches you on the street, be sure he's gonna be punched right back And that's what he did, one on one, his posse tried to hold him BACK, dummie, not a backup against one weak leftie
>>719994141 This, pretty much. He's a try hard who appeals to pussy alt-righters because of his carefully crafted provocateur-persona where he tries to show himself as the 'cool uncle' who teaches men how to be men again.
He's tapped in to a goldmine of Millennial male insecurity.
A lot of what he says is spot on, but it's obvious stuff; he's not speaking any profound truths that haven't been pointed out ad nauseam. He's basically just: hurr durr feminism bad libtards bad check out my sick bantz.
There's a very particular kind of guy who worships guys like McInnes, and there's nothing 'manly' about them.
>>719993940 What a retarded thing to say; that he doesn't care if games are politically correct or sexist because they're for kids. If they're for kids, that's indoctrination. He's a fucking idiot hypocrite sometimes.
>>719994809 You're the sort of guy I was referring to with:
>There's a very particular kind of guy who worships guys like McInnes, and there's nothing 'manly' about them.
Being a man just means having convictions and a sense of honour, and looking after yourself and the people you care about. You don't need to be a loud arsehole with tattoos and a hipster beard who thinks he's the arbiter of everything manly. The only people who like him for that are just insecure and will listen to any guy who shouts loudly enough about his own machismo.
>>719995162 Plenty of millennial males have convictions, jobs, work hard and don't believe everything that's fed to them. Not everyone who doesn't subscribe to his mentality is some 'Carl the Cuck' tier loser or basement dweller. Get off YouTube for a bit and see the real world.
>>719995130 >Being a man just means being a submissive faggot who never hits back whenever someone threats you That's your take on what being a man means, mate.
Don't get your definitions and interpretations of what you think is right confused with your ideas of what the rest of the world may think.
If you believe being a man means that you should just play video games all day and be a faggot who cower whenever someone raises their voice, that's on you.
You are acting under the impression that you, somehow, owns "the truth" and your word is final when it comes to what masculinity means, but that's far from reality. If you ever take your head out of your ass, then maybe you'll see that others don't always agree with your idea of how adult men are supposed to behave.
>>719995316 >Or maybe it's the leftist garbage that was thrown around for so long it started to convince betas and young boys to act as weak as possible.
The worship of victimization and weakness can only affect people who feel victimized and weak. You can't teach someone how to be weak and submissive, but you CAN teach them how to suck it up and move on because life isn't fair for anyone.
>>719995784 >Being a man just means being a submissive faggot who never hits back whenever someone threats you >That's your take on what being a man means, mate.
More projection from the sort of insecure guy who worships guys like McInnes. I'm guessing you see yourself as 'alpha' because you think a loud mouth shouting obviousness is the best kind of male role model around. Really, you're likely just some guy in his early 20's who feels confused about his place in society.
Just be a decent guy and don't take shit. Play video games if you want to, just don't waste entire days doing so and don't let it ever interfere with more important things.
>>719996194 >More projection from the sort of insecure guy If you are using the "projection" meme as an argument, I can do the same, correct?
>I'm guessing you... because you think... you're likely just... How am I supposed to take anything you say seriously when half of your message is based on projection?
Again, if you want to act like a faggot, be a neet, and watch anime, or whatever the fuck you nu-males do all day, then that's on you. Just be aware that YOUR definition of what being a man really means will ONLY apply to yourself, and yourself only. Don't ever mistake your opinions as facts, especially when those opinions involve something extremely subjective like "what masculinity means".
I think men should act like men, and behave like proper adults. I agree with what this guy, Gavin, said and I do think he has a point, men should put their toys down once they become adults, so don't try to assume your definitions of masculinity, somehow, represent reality and everyone who disagrees with you is "insecure" and therefore wrong.
Always keep in mind that your opinions and reality are NOT the same thing.
>>719996960 >Always keep in mind that your opinions and reality are NOT the same thing.
Fair enough m8. I'd ask that you do the same.
I just think it's rich for anyone on /b/ to be going on about how to be a man, one needs to take up stereotypically manly activities and avoid 'toys' (e.g. video games). For what it's worth, I'm no NEET, I've never watched anime, and I'm not even sure what a 'nu-male' is. I just McInnes' views of what it means to be masculine appeal primarily to insecure guys who really have very little of their own ideas of what it means to be an upstanding man. I agree with him that it's important to learn basic skills that a lot of men these days--at least in the Western world--have forgotten. Stuff like changing your oil, or even just changing a tire. But only if that's a necessary part of being a functioning person in your particular situation. If you're Swiss accountant, you can be ' man' without needing to know how to change your cars oil, because it's likely you won't ever need to do that yourself. As a Rhodesian, that sort of thing was taught to me when I was about 7/8 y.o. because it was the sort of thing I NEEDED to know to get by; not because it was considered Macho.
Hey guys, we've all had a few laughs but let's get down to brass tacks. I'm gonna be livestreaming Naruto and I want you all to join me on my twitch account bakagaijin.
I think the moral of the story here is that you can't really define masculinity. Is it growing a beard? Playing Tomb Raider: 20 Year Anniversary Edition? Driving a car through a crowded mall? Who can say. One thing I can say is you're all gay and you should kill yourselves.
>>719997767 >Fair enough m8. I'd ask that you do the same. So far, so good.
>I just think You lost me here, buddy.
Remember, your opinions on what masculinity means are YOUR opinions. I, me, the person who is talking to you right now, think men should act like men, and they should not be playing with children's toys, unless they are, somehow, making a living out of it. That's it. You think grown men should play with toys, that's your opinion, I just think they shouldn't, and I happen to agree with Gavin. End of discussion.
>>719997631 Well, now I hate to be the one to tell you this but not only is my argument valid, but it is also correct. Water doesn't flow uphill, it takes the path of least resistance. When you beat a child or an animal, they will forever flinch at the slightest provocation. When you're injured or tortured badly enough, you will feel the pain forever. Victimhood is about generating an idea of being in pain, and no I'm not depressed at all so your 'projecting' theory is bullshit. In fact, I can't even fathom how you could possibly come to that conclusion unless you're deliberately trying to 'win'. The point that I'm making is that people more easily allow themselves to become victims and more seldom grow the fuck up and deal with their problems. And the liberal retard narrative encourages this, before it's initially conceived; i.e. people think "Yeah, come to think of it maybe I have been oppressed.." I'm amazed because I'm trying to consider you as a not-complete-retard, but I won't be surprised at all to find out that you are actually retarded.
>>719996062 the worship of victimization and weakness is worship of, by and for the weak. No strong person "worships" victimization. So... you don't make any sense. "and your life is "literally" worse than it should because nothing ever goes your way" >and your life is literally worse than it should
>>719998137 >I, me, the person who is talking to you right now, think men should act like men
Okay, that's fine, but you're on /b/ arguing about how your view of masculinity ("playing videogames is for children") is the right view. Is that more productive than a round of Counter Strike before bed time?
>>719998260 I couldn't make it through the second line of your rambling without cringing, but hey, if you love being a victim so much or if you get a hit from feeling helpless/weak, always keep in mind that you are 100% free to keep pretending to be those things.
>>719996062 It's quite simple, but I see that you need help so let me break it down for you. People that act judicially/legislatively to change laws for groups that display victimhood, consider themselves victims, and are only able to muster what they think of as "courage" when they form a group. Strong people don't even consider weak people unless they are able to empathize originating in a weakness that they see in themselves. It's easy to think of yourself as a victim, and it's difficult to get the fuck over it. Therefore, people are more prone to giving up and taking cues from the loud mouthed SJWs and feminazis that we see marching and screeching across our cities. When people see how much attention, and government assistance these groups get, they also play the victim. I feel like you are deliberately retarded or something not to notice this.
>the right view. No, I don't. I think that is MY view. Nothing more.
You are the one saying yours is the correct one, and mine is wrong because I'm "insecure".
Grown men should act like adults. That's MY point and the way I see it. You disagree with me, and that's your problem.
Why can't you just take your opinion and stick it? Why is there such need for you to try and convert people to your way of thinking? Why do you assume others MUST agree with you because YOUR ways are the only ways? You have issues, mate.
>>719999482 You want me to be a victim from your own projections, and that's too bad so sad for you. I'm sure you want betas and cucks like yourself to be encouraged to grow up so it will be easier for you to eventually do so. But no, you should die in a fire because you're the epitome of a total raging faggot with a cock for a pacifier.
>>720000622 When one has a view, one generally believes it to be the 'corret' view. They may acknowledge that the view technically has no 'right' or 'wrong' as it may be purely a matter of opinion/perspective. But they tacitly think of their own view as 'correct'. Otherwise, it wouldn't really be their view, would it? In my view, there's nothing wrong with a man enjoying video games to a moderate degree; so long as it does not interfere with responsibilities. To me, that's no less manly than enjoying a movie, watching a TV series, or shitposting on a Micronesian claymation forum, like you're doing.
>Why can't you just take your opinion and stick it?
I thought we were exchanging opinions here. Why the hostility?
>Why is there such need for you to try and convert people to your way of thinking?
There isn't. I care *very little* what you believe beyond expressing my opinion to a stranger on the internet in a very vague desire that they might see things from a different perspective. I imagine your expressing your opinion to a stranger on the internet is borne out of a similar vague desire.
>>720000916 it was really simple, utterly simple, and you're just as bad as a regressive leftist to deny any challenge to your ideas. "own the truth" and "condescending" -- look in the fucking mirror shit for brains. you are so empty-headed you could get carried away by a strong breeze.
>>720001303 >When one has a view, one generally believes it to be the 'corret' view.
That's your opinion.
I'll get back to you once you learn the difference between verifiable facts and subjective opinions. Meanwhile I'll just ignore the rest of your post because discussing "whether or not adults should be playing with children's toys, without being paid to do so" doesn't really sound like something worth the time.
>>720001639 I'm having a hard time trying to find an easy, and clearer, way to explain how adults playing with children's toys is something extremely ridiculous, but I guess some of you just refuse to grow up.
>>720002357 I think it'd help if you could explain A) How exactly *all* video games are equivalent to "children's toys" and then B) How shitposting on /b/ is a much more mature and manly way to spend your time. Are you getting paid to sound like an insecure retard on /b/?
>>720002467 >I think big boobs are attractive. That's a false equivalency. What you find attractive has absolutely nothing to do with what you think the correct way other people ought to behave should be.
>He says, while continuing to reply Good idea.
Go play with your toys, little boy. I'll find something productive to do here.
>>720002653 All video games are not for children. I mean fuck look in GTA5 when you unlock Trevor and he's fucking that drugged out whore on the 1st seance you meet that character.. that's not for anyone under the age.
>>720002653 I'm pretty sure video games are not toys, they are actually something mature adults use to play with their friends at sleepovers, between blowjobs and the usual "show me yours and i'll show you mine" sessions.
>>720002710 >i think people ought to say excuse me if they accidentally bump in to someone. But that's just my opinion, so it's not actually true in any way shape or form coz it's not a verifiable fact and therefore not worth discussing at all.
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