Hey /b/, I'm a young American looking to get a fun muscle car to cruise in on the weekends, and am having trouble finding a working one that is under 10 grand and doesn't need another 10 k in repairs. Any advice? Car recommendations? Listings? (Pic somewhat related, dream car)
>>719945321 Most muscle cars dont sell for 75k to 100k these days. You can find a hot rod/ rat rod junkie on craigslist. They are not in it for the money I guarantee you. You will be able to find a mild 400hp for under 10k on craigslist that doesnt need any repairs at all whatsoever.
go to craigslist. go to cars by owner put in the year minimum as 1900 put in max years at 1979 or 1981
have fun. I was in the exact same situation you were in a few years ago and my options were endless. good luck! also check out other areas to consider getting the car shipped all is possible including shipping under 10k
You can't drive them regularly, they just aren't like modern cars. They will need regular work to keep them running, and breaking down can and will happen.
the ONE thing that does work is getting a restomod. That's an old car where all new parts have been put into it. The problem with that is a good restomod will be at least $30k. And a truly legit restomod will be $40k to $50k.
>>719947394 This guy knows what he's talking about. But don't buy one unless you know how to do maintenance and basic repairs yourself. Old cars are great, and simple to work on, but little stuff breaks all the time.
>>719945321 You can buy an early to mid 2000's mustang or camaro >>719946293 Lol seriously you only have 10g's and you worrying about cylinders? You get what you pay for kid. Also you can just slap and ebay turbo on that bitch to give it more power on the cheap. Besides, at this point you should just worry about the car being stylish(and functional) So you can get some pussy out of it. (Trust me, bitches don't know cars and if its pretty and shinny, they'll put slop on that knob)
You should also try to buy a car from an old person because they(usually) take care of their cars. Not to mention that old men going through a midlife crisis are prone to impulse buy a muscle or sports car they cant handle to 're-live the wonder years' only to sell it a few years later for cheap.
Also NEVER EVER take a car with ANY transmission problem no matter how light they say it is.
Camaros and Mustangs are girl cars, new or old but a resto'd stang is extremely cheap. You can usually nab a 66-69 for 10k but you get what you pay for as Ford power plants are junk. You could also just grab a 50's chevy coupe, tub it and drop a 350/400 engine hooked up to a 350 turbo/400 turbo tranny. Cheap with plenty of power as long as you up the compression/jam a heavy crank in there/aluminum intake/true duel exhaustcatilytic converters not needed unless you live in Cuckifornia). My 400 SB that I ripped out of a 76' Caprice classic and shoved into my 85' K10 produces 340 RWHP with 0 modifications to my compression other then a performance cam intake carb etc. GM is cheap, easy and a helluva lot more reliable then Ford. Monza's are also fun and cheap. Or you could get lucky and find a restorable early 70's Buick, Pontiac or Olds BB car off an old fart for cheap like I did with my 72' 442. Car cost 3500(numbers matching 455 car) and after roughly 3 years cost me 10k for total restoration since I did 90% of the labor other then the interior. Chryslers cars are powerful but very costly.
>>719949850 >>719950238 Nigga, I've had the MOST issues out of post 88' vehicles, mostly stemming from electrical issues. Olders vehicles can and will outlast most of the shit produced by the chinese quality junk that's been produced 1990's+ with proper care and maintenance only. The ONLY computerized vehicle that hasn't let me down is my 04' Access Cab 4WD 4.7L Tundra. I've been through a Blazer, Trailblazer, Camaro, a few Rams, Escort, Civic Del Sol, Camry, Jeep TJ and a couple others that I can't remember at the moment. All cared for and maintained, all ranging from 93-2005, all ended up with either 4wd going out, transmission issues(Trailblazer and the 98' Ram I had), injectors failing, fuel pumps and much much more. Mechanical > electrical.
>>719950446 >wait like 20 more years when all the old fucks
Implying just as many young people aren't after these cars. Besides the more of them that get wrecked or parted out the more valuable the rest become. I know a guy who exports hotrods and muscle cars over seas and gets 2-3 times as much as they sell for here. He sells a lot of cars to the Chinese they love that shit it's like a damn status symbol. Don't expect prices to drop
>>719952386 That's why that mechanical fuel injection is so sought after today right? Stupid faggot, you obviously drive your cars like a moron. It's about taking care of it you stupid fuck. You are a moron, please kill yourself soon. The world will be better for it.
>>719954635 You called it. That whole electronic mechanical shit is an old thread spun by old faggots who are averse to change. Just think, back in the day there was a guy saying buggy is better than cars because the horse won't break down likes those new fandangled machines.
>>719945770 Most muscle cars did not have very good rust proofing. So most of them have simply wasted away and become worthless. Only the ones that were actively preserved are still in good condition today.
>>719952386 Bullshit. Most cars today will go past 100,000 miles without needing anything more than oil changes, break pads, and tires.
That was absolutely unheard of in the "golden age" of muscle cars. 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty is pretty standard these days. A company would have gone bankrupt offering a warranty like that in the 60s and 70s.
>>719955504 True, on long trips a lot of car owners would travel with tool boxes and spare parts because cars were known for breaking down. This guy just heard his dad and grandpa say that old line and repeats it. Probably thinks he knows a lot about cars too, it's just a shame.
>>719945770 It's typically early gens that are like that. late 60's were fucking great. 16 years ago. You could pick up a good 69 Camaro for under 10k easy. Ever since cash for clunkers and economy tanked. Prices went astronomical even for a beater.
early gen C-10's are's slowly doing the same thing Camaro's and RoadRunners ect did. Was a shop in Glassgow Ky in 2000. Old man had pristine Roadrunners Cuda's. everything. He was selling them for great prices. Not cheap but good prices. I imagine those cars today are worth much much more.
I'd look for a clean unmodified C10. Meaning no body mods. No conversions. motor and trans don't have to be original or stock. But the body. Needs to be pretty much untouched. Unhacked. ect. They are going up in price. Rockers and cab corners are biggest rust issue usually.
Keep looking, go to local car meets search ads, make connections, eventually you will find something. Some poor bastard will have to sell his car because of a divorce or a third DWI. Otherwise look for a 2005 2006 Dodge R/T. They don't have towering prices, would need less repair, and go like a raped ape.
youve been given some really good advice in this thread, im genuinely impressed.
my advice is to forget about the "muscle" label, go to ebay and search for all cars from the 60's (the best decade for cars). find a model that you like and search around for more of the same make/model. don't worry about if it's a v8 or how fast it can go, the coolest cars are the ones that look good, and driving fast in a classic car is for douchebags. buy an already restored one, it will cost you a lot less time, money, and stress. dont buy one with any rust, and don't just take the sellers word that there isn't any rust, people fucking lie. some cool cars to check out (IMO): 65 lincoln continental 50s-60s cadillacs any kind of lead sled
>>719957263 Early Mustangs are a dime a dozen still. But meh Not really a mustang fan. Dad did have a true 429 boss. Many, Many years ago. Pretty much gave it away cause the transmission went out. That would have been an exception. Mom is still pissed about that 30 years later. lmao.
>>719957749 My parents divorced in my teens. But my god she still flips the fuck out over that. He up and gave it away cause the trans died. Can't say I haven't done anything stupid. But this was a pretty big deal. My mom isn't a car person and she knew even back then how special that car was.
Look at gbodys. 1980 to 1988 monte carlo malibu cutlass u can get em under 3 gs if u know how to buy cars and then drop a crate motor in it and u got a fucking awesome car that will blow the doors off fagmaros and mustfags
>>719958034 I'll never forget my dad pulling in the driveway with the Mustang thinking it would be a fun surprise and my mom having a nuclear meltdown instead. He traded in his Ford Explorer for it.
I can understand her point of view though. We didn't really have a lot of money at the time and his Explorer was only like 5 years old meanwhile she was driving a 10+ year old Chrysler minivan and the driver's side power window didn't work and it ran like shit. And he comes home with a new Mustang...
>>719957630 My neighbor growing up had a boss 302 that car was pristine. He was retired and that was his baby. His wife didn't like the car. He died and I went over about a month later to see if she would sell it to me. She had already sold it for $1000
>>719958205 I had an 88 SS MC. That thing floated on the road. Put a crate 400hp 350 in it. Traded it for a 69 gmc Jimmy. Clean. Fire Engine Red with a white topper. Don't even want to know what I sold that GMC for in 2003. That hurts. That dam thing was clean clean clean. First manual 4x4 I had ever owned. Had such a low 1st gear. I was stupid.
>>719958480 Yeah but drop a crate motor and keep it under 10 gs. The gm performace crates are drop right into gbody even an lt1 will fit after a few small mods. Gbody is cheap and the frame is race car handling worthy after a few very cheap upgrades
>>719959098 Yeah. It's not a take off gear or really relevant to wheeling. Just a detail I recall. I pulled a farm tractor up a 150ft drop off once with it idling in 1st. I mean it's not that big of a deal. But it's just a detail I recall.
LS swapped S2000s are the shit. Front of the block is behind the front shocks so technically it is mid engine. I've seen pictures of a S2000 on corner scales in a forum with a LS swap that still had 50.5/49.5 weight distribution with the V8.
End up being like 400lbs lighter than a corvette. Plus all the ricer fanbois have a heart attack when they see an American V8 in a Honda.
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>>719959150 Or keep them going until they are tired of them and sell. My 1979 international scout II with a 345 had like 5 different kinds of primer on it. That beast was mechanically sound and a mud demon. I was constantly buying new stuff for it from the IH place in Ohio. She looked rough. Had straight pipes. Gawd awful racket. There was nothing trash about that truck. There was no point in a good paint job. It would have been ruined in weeks.
That one was stolen from me. never got it back. That was my first vehicle. Put captains chairs in it out of one of those big vans. Comfy as fuck.
>>719959817 I like RX-7 V* swaps but if you look at the location of the block it's about midway over the front wheels on the RX-7. S2000 has much more weight on the rear wheels. That will make it put the power down better and also have more neutral handling.
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