Hey /b/, I'm a young American looking to get a fun muscle

>>719945321

I really don't think that's possible, muscle cars now sell for 75k to 100k and if you get a run down one your gonna put about 50k into it.

Good luck with that. Fast cars are like dope speed costs money. Hope this helps.
BTW I'm into my Camaro for over 40,000.00
630 HP 695 FT LBS torque.

>>719945520
It just amazes me that cars once considered common and usually trashed or cheap have gone up so much

>>719945770
well they have become rare, and lots of older people want them so they can remember their youth, that means they are desired, it's just pure economics

>>719945321

just buy a camaroe or mustang that is a few years old

>>719946124
But then I'd be stuck getting a v6 most likely, and the styling isn't near as good as any older ones... Only exception being the challenger

>>719945321

Have you considered that you may be a FAG..?

>>719946124
for under 10k, you can find LSx swapped third gen camaro's (the iroc years). with the lsx, they're pretty damn potent and very typical muscle

>>719946357
Thanks for the tip

If you have to ask..It is not ment to be.

>>719945321
Most muscle cars dont sell for 75k to 100k these days.
You can find a hot rod/ rat rod junkie on craigslist.
They are not in it for the money I guarantee you.
You will be able to find a mild 400hp for under 10k on craigslist that doesnt need any repairs at all whatsoever.

go to craigslist.
go to cars by owner
put in the year minimum as 1900
put in max years at 1979 or 1981

have fun.
I was in the exact same situation you were in a few years ago and my options were endless. good luck!
also check out other areas to consider getting the car shipped all is possible including shipping under 10k

>>719945321

They are a black hole of money.

You can't drive them regularly, they just aren't like modern cars. They will need regular work to keep them running, and breaking down can and will happen.

the ONE thing that does work is getting a restomod. That's an old car where all new parts have been put into it. The problem with that is a good restomod will be at least $30k. And a truly legit restomod will be $40k to $50k.

ITT useless millennial cunts who shit their skinny jeans at the thought of a spanner

>>719947394
P.S.
checkout these.
roadrunner
cougar
firebird 60s
camaro 70-73
thunderbird
grand prix
gran torino
duster
nova
chevelle
impala
pontiac fury

>>719947667
>idiot who didnt realize that he just insulted himself with his own post

>>719947716
Thanks my man! Looking good so far!

>>719945321
japanese muscle>american muscle

>>719946357
who the fuck wants a third gen camaro

>>719947394
This guy knows what he's talking about. But don't buy one unless you know how to do maintenance and basic repairs yourself. Old cars are great, and simple to work on, but little stuff breaks all the time.

>>719947834
>idiot who doesn't understand the premise of ITT pertaining to seriously helpless, hapless BUT HOW DUZ I MAINTAIN CAR GAIZ fuckwits posting before

>>719948371
I know how to work on them, plus my dad used to work on cars so I can call him if I'm really in a jam. Problem now is barret jackson just finished in my town so prices are way hiked

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>>719945321
You can buy an early to mid 2000's mustang or camaro
>>719946293
Lol seriously you only have 10g's and you worrying about cylinders? You get what you pay for kid. Also you can just slap and ebay turbo on that bitch to give it more power on the cheap. Besides, at this point you should just worry about the car being stylish(and functional) So you can get some pussy out of it. (Trust me, bitches don't know cars and if its pretty and shinny, they'll put slop on that knob)

You should also try to buy a car from an old person because they(usually) take care of their cars. Not to mention that old men going through a midlife crisis are prone to impulse buy a muscle or sports car they cant handle to 're-live the wonder years' only to sell it a few years later for cheap.

Also NEVER EVER take a car with ANY transmission problem no matter how light they say it is.

>>719945321
quit being a beta and get a good job and earn some real money

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>>719948929
lol this guy

Camaros and Mustangs are girl cars, new or old but a resto'd stang is extremely cheap. You can usually nab a 66-69 for 10k but you get what you pay for as Ford power plants are junk. You could also just grab a 50's chevy coupe, tub it and drop a 350/400 engine hooked up to a 350 turbo/400 turbo tranny. Cheap with plenty of power as long as you up the compression/jam a heavy crank in there/aluminum intake/true duel exhaustcatilytic converters not needed unless you live in Cuckifornia). My 400 SB that I ripped out of a 76' Caprice classic and shoved into my 85' K10 produces 340 RWHP with 0 modifications to my compression other then a performance cam intake carb etc. GM is cheap, easy and a helluva lot more reliable then Ford. Monza's are also fun and cheap. Or you could get lucky and find a restorable early 70's Buick, Pontiac or Olds BB car off an old fart for cheap like I did with my 72' 442. Car cost 3500(numbers matching 455 car) and after roughly 3 years cost me 10k for total restoration since I did 90% of the labor other then the interior. Chryslers cars are powerful but very costly.

>>719949304
I'm genuinely impressed by annons like you. You make this board worth fighting for.
Thanks for all your tips, all of you.

>>719949304
No...older cars will break down OFTEN and WILL become black holes for money. This is prob a kid. So his main focus should be having a sexy yet reliable vehicle.The newer the car the better

>>719945321
G-Body GM products, mustangs, road runners, and probably darts can be found on CL for under 10k

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>>719949752
lol that anon is a retard and if you do what he says you'll be constantly pouring out cash for repairs & parts.
My option is much better>>719948776

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>>719945321
Find an Austin Healey V8 small car fun you can find one that needs restoration for cheap. Restored ones are expensive. It's like the poor man's Shelby AC Cobra

>>719945770
wait like 20 more years when all the old fucks who want these cars are dead, then they will either sell for nothing or just not be around anymore. Brand new these cars were only 4-5k.

>>719950238
Yours is the more sensible option for sure, I will give you that

>>719947716
1949 lincon continental. V12 hydrolic lifters. Slap on a throttle body fuel injection and be good to go. Talk about style, beautiful car suicode door and lot of room on back.

>>719949850
>>719950238
Nigga, I've had the MOST issues out of post 88' vehicles, mostly stemming from electrical issues. Olders vehicles can and will outlast most of the shit produced by the chinese quality junk that's been produced 1990's+ with proper care and maintenance only. The ONLY computerized vehicle that hasn't let me down is my 04' Access Cab 4WD 4.7L Tundra. I've been through a Blazer, Trailblazer, Camaro, a few Rams, Escort, Civic Del Sol, Camry, Jeep TJ and a couple others that I can't remember at the moment. All cared for and maintained, all ranging from 93-2005, all ended up with either 4wd going out, transmission issues(Trailblazer and the 98' Ram I had), injectors failing, fuel pumps and much much more. Mechanical > electrical.

>>719950446
What is inflation.

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>>719952386
lol keep telling yourself that sister...I suppose next your gonna tell me about the good days when polio made kids tougher unlike those pussy vaccines we have today .

>>719952983
That thing where uncle jerry filled his ball sack with compressed air then made me smack em around for 20 min's.

>>719945725
It's still just a Camaro though, trash will always be trash no matter how much you polish it. Come back when you get a real car.

>>719950446
>wait like 20 more years when all the old fucks

Implying just as many young people aren't after these cars. Besides the more of them that get wrecked or parted out the more valuable the rest become. I know a guy who exports hotrods and muscle cars over seas and gets 2-3 times as much as they sell for here. He sells a lot of cars to the Chinese they love that shit it's like a damn status symbol. Don't expect prices to drop

>>719953134
I wish I lived in simpler times, but I'm 24 m80.

Get a motorcycle instead, best bang for buck if you want something fun and under 10k

>>719945725
350 383 or bbc?

Pontiac Aztek

>>719953952
lol yeah I'm sure you do...Reminiscing about simpler times while you type on your mac and drink your star bucks.

>>719954382
What who would put a big black cock in their car

>Inb4 big block chevy

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>>719954635
>type on your mac and drink your star bucks.

>>719945725
What kind of a stupid fuck would spend that kind of money on a camero? What a waste of money. You could have spent that money on a new car and gotten a car that could turn.

>>719952386
That's why that mechanical fuel injection is so sought after today right? Stupid faggot, you obviously drive your cars like a moron. It's about taking care of it you stupid fuck. You are a moron, please kill yourself soon. The world will be better for it.

Buy an oldsmobile, they are cheap

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>>719945321
My first car was a 67 Impala SS. If my wife wasn't prego I was about to get another or similar. Prices are still bretty good. Mine looked like this.

>>719954635
You called it. That whole electronic mechanical shit is an old thread spun by old faggots who are averse to change. Just think, back in the day there was a guy saying buggy is better than cars because the horse won't break down likes those new fandangled machines.

>>719945770
Most muscle cars did not have very good rust proofing. So most of them have simply wasted away and become worthless. Only the ones that were actively preserved are still in good condition today.

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>>719954931
>This

>>719952386
Bullshit. Most cars today will go past 100,000 miles without needing anything more than oil changes, break pads, and tires.

That was absolutely unheard of in the "golden age" of muscle cars. 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty is pretty standard these days. A company would have gone bankrupt offering a warranty like that in the 60s and 70s.

>>719955504
>break pads

fuck, meant to say brake...

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>>719945725
Confirmed retard

>>719955504
True, on long trips a lot of car owners would travel with tool boxes and spare parts because cars were known for breaking down. This guy just heard his dad and grandpa say that old line and repeats it. Probably thinks he knows a lot about cars too, it's just a shame.

Buy a cutlass, rancharo or el camino

>>719945321
the best option is to look for a Plymouth fury II or a dodge dart maybe an some AMC out there for good price running just got to go looking.

best thing to do is go find a scrapyard look around at their older selection maybe just even a motor for a project

>>719945321
>superbird
> >$10K

You're 30 years too late, anon.

>>719945770
It's typically early gens that are like that. late 60's were fucking great. 16 years ago. You could pick up a good 69 Camaro for under 10k easy. Ever since cash for clunkers and economy tanked. Prices went astronomical even for a beater.

early gen C-10's are's slowly doing the same thing Camaro's and RoadRunners ect did.
Was a shop in Glassgow Ky in 2000. Old man had pristine Roadrunners Cuda's. everything. He was selling them for great prices. Not cheap but good prices. I imagine those cars today are worth much much more.

I'd look for a clean unmodified C10. Meaning no body mods. No conversions. motor and trans don't have to be original or stock. But the body. Needs to be pretty much untouched. Unhacked. ect. They are going up in price. Rockers and cab corners are biggest rust issue usually.

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Go buy a Dodge Dart for a couple grand and you can convert it into a Dodge Demon clone over time.

Firebird,Camaro,Nova,Chevelle.

>>719956776
Doubt he is going to find a early gen Camaro Firebird for 10k unless they are completely roached. Even then. Chevelles and Nova's both got up there.

>>719947986
Dreaming

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Keep looking, go to local car meets search ads, make connections, eventually you will find something. Some poor bastard will have to sell his car because of a divorce or a third DWI.
Otherwise look for a 2005 2006 Dodge R/T. They don't have towering prices, would need less repair, and go like a raped ape.

Go to svtperformane and v
Get an 01 cobra or 03 04 mach 1

youve been given some really good advice in this thread, im genuinely impressed.

my advice is to forget about the "muscle" label, go to ebay and search for all cars from the 60's (the best decade for cars). find a model that you like and search around for more of the same make/model. don't worry about if it's a v8 or how fast it can go, the coolest cars are the ones that look good, and driving fast in a classic car is for douchebags. buy an already restored one, it will cost you a lot less time, money, and stress. dont buy one with any rust, and don't just take the sellers word that there isn't any rust, people fucking lie. some cool cars to check out (IMO):
65 lincoln continental
50s-60s cadillacs
any kind of lead sled

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>>719957225
>Looks better
>Just as fast in a straight line
>100X better braking and cornering performance

>>719957263
Early Mustangs are a dime a dozen still. But meh Not really a mustang fan. Dad did have a true 429 boss. Many, Many years ago. Pretty much gave it away cause the transmission went out. That would have been an exception. Mom is still pissed about that 30 years later. lmao.

>>719957630
Funny, my mom flipped the fuck out when my dad bought a mustang without telling her and it was pretty much the final straw that caused them to get a divorce.

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>>719957487
>65 lincoln continental

Neo get in!!

>>719949304
Chev / Ford are the same regarding reliability and quality. Stop talking shit because you prefer one over the other because of your runaway OCD & autism

>>719957749
My parents divorced in my teens. But my god she still flips the fuck out over that. He up and gave it away cause the trans died. Can't say I haven't done anything stupid. But this was a pretty big deal. My mom isn't a car person and she knew even back then how special that car was.

>>719957815
i would never had thought to put those wheels on that car, but they look fucking amazing

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Look at gbodys. 1980 to 1988 monte carlo malibu cutlass u can get em under 3 gs if u know how to buy cars and then drop a crate motor in it and u got a fucking awesome car that will blow the doors off fagmaros and mustfags

>>719958034
I'll never forget my dad pulling in the driveway with the Mustang thinking it would be a fun surprise and my mom having a nuclear meltdown instead. He traded in his Ford Explorer for it.

I can understand her point of view though. We didn't really have a lot of money at the time and his Explorer was only like 5 years old meanwhile she was driving a 10+ year old Chrysler minivan and the driver's side power window didn't work and it ran like shit. And he comes home with a new Mustang...

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>>719957630
My neighbor growing up had a boss 302 that car was pristine. He was retired and that was his baby. His wife didn't like the car. He died and I went over about a month later to see if she would sell it to me. She had already sold it for $1000

>>719958205
Drop a crate motor in just about anything and you can blow away 90% of cars you normally see on the street.

>>719958205
I had an 88 SS MC. That thing floated on the road. Put a crate 400hp 350 in it. Traded it for a 69 gmc Jimmy. Clean. Fire Engine Red with a white topper. Don't even want to know what I sold that GMC for in 2003. That hurts. That dam thing was clean clean clean. First manual 4x4 I had ever owned. Had such a low 1st gear. I was stupid.

>>719958382
ouch. did you slap her?

>>719958312
Pretty much same boat I am in atm. I want to grab a clean c10 before they go astronomical in price. But I need something practical. I totally get that pov.

>>719958480
Yeah but drop a crate motor and keep it under 10 gs. The gm performace crates are drop right into gbody even an lt1 will fit after a few small mods. Gbody is cheap and the frame is race car handling worthy after a few very cheap upgrades

>>719957499
Quad turbo intercooled flux capacitors running liquid nitrogen inter... meh

Japs wind a 3 or 4 litre engine up so hard and tight that its right on the edge of collapsing in a mini black hole. 400kw in a ricer will give you 10,000km, if youre lucky.

On the other hand murican V8... puttz along so lazy and under stressed, twice the torque, half the effort. 400kw engine is good for a quarter million miles.

Not even a competition

>>719945321

Find a old AMC Javelin or AMX. They go for under 10 grand. One with a 390 will haul ass and they handle great.

>>719958382

...what a cunt, selling her husband's prized possession immediately after dying for a tiny fraction of what it was probably worth.

>>719958561
>Had such a low 1st gear. I was stupid.

My Cummins has a 6 speed and 1st Is so low i don't even use it if I'm not towing heavy. I'd never get through a damn stop light.

>>719958921
you have no idea what you're talking about.

It is the young cunts that get classics and fuck them up. You won't look after it properly and you won't have the money necessary to maintain it.

>>719959098
Yeah. It's not a take off gear or really relevant to wheeling. Just a detail I recall. I pulled a farm tractor up a 150ft drop off once with it idling in 1st. I mean it's not that big of a deal. But it's just a detail I recall.

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>>719958921
Why not both?

LS swapped S2000s are the shit. Front of the block is behind the front shocks so technically it is mid engine. I've seen pictures of a S2000 on corner scales in a forum with a LS swap that still had 50.5/49.5 weight distribution with the V8.

End up being like 400lbs lighter than a corvette. Plus all the ricer fanbois have a heart attack when they see an American V8 in a Honda.

>>719959143
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>>719959406

>>719947716
I love Cougars. coolest tail lights ever.

also

did you mean Plymouth Fury? My dad had one when I was a kid. He threw up in the back once after drinking too much at a party and the smell never went away.

>>719959150
Or keep them going until they are tired of them and sell. My 1979 international scout II with a 345 had like 5 different kinds of primer on it. That beast was mechanically sound and a mud demon. I was constantly buying new stuff for it from the IH place in Ohio. She looked rough. Had straight pipes. Gawd awful racket. There was nothing trash about that truck. There was no point in a good paint job. It would have been ruined in weeks.

That one was stolen from me. never got it back. That was my first vehicle. Put captains chairs in it out of one of those big vans. Comfy as fuck.

>>719959817
I like RX-7 V* swaps but if you look at the location of the block it's about midway over the front wheels on the RX-7. S2000 has much more weight on the rear wheels. That will make it put the power down better and also have more neutral handling.

>>719958936
was just going to say that. I loved those cars

>>719945321
is that pic the one that they found in a dealership with 600 miles on it? same color

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>>719960393
I like seeing motor swaps into stupid shit because when you rollin down the street and a chevette blows your doors off there just isn't any coming back from that. LoL

>>719961146
You mean like this? Nigger gonna need some flux capacitors

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>>719961395
Forgot pic

>>719961462
Don't think that's going to work man

>>719961462
>used to work at a 'yota dealership.
>faggy owner called them "mister 2"s.
Thanks for the flashbacks. (Not really.)