I'm not even liberal, I just know that internet service providers charging more money for sites that can pay more and take more traffic, like Netflix will adversely affect high traffic, low income sites like 4chan, as well as anyone who is independent.
>>719888022 The govt. being bought by big business is the problem......trump acts like Washington is the problem, when the problem is a combo of huge corporations putting profit over people AND paying off Washington......so trump makes things worse.
its internet censorship,funny how foreign goverments can try to seize control of america's internet and everything loses there minds.but when their own goverment does the same thing,they do nothing against it
trump can say all he wants but hes still a lying corrupt politician like the rest of them.he doesnt care about you,he doesnt care about washington,he only cares about himself.but this wouldnt change with any other republican or democrat its just how things work
>>719888297 the ironic thing is that when Obama appointed a former telecom executive to run the FCC, people thought that guy would be a sellout and kill net neutrality, but he actually did the opposite, asserting the importance of net neutrality.....he pissed off all his former colleagues.....but trump is going to do whatever Big business wants him to do.
>>719887774 It won't just kill 4chan it'll allow governments to control every aspect of software that comes through their domains
Straight from wiki
A widely cited example of a violation of net neutrality principles was when the Internet service provider Comcast was secretly slowing (colloquially called "throttling") uploads from peer-to-peer file sharing (P2P) applications using forged packets. Research suggests that a combination of policy instruments will help realize the range of valued political and economic objectives central to the network neutrality debate
People will start going crazy. If there aren't mass protests overturning any decisions made on met neutrality, I've lost all hope in the human sheep race.
This'll be the biggest thing in our life times. We were raised on the Internet. It's about to change greatly. The whole idea of "Internet freedom" will be lost.
You anons saying "oh big deal 4chan will be shut down how will we live?" you'll see a whole lot more changing. Or you won't. You probably won't be able to tell the difference. Nevermind.
You should all be upset about this. This is about the only governmental change that REALLY effects you all.
>a homeschooled kid who joined the us goverment already exposed the goverments control over the internet and america didnt do anything but go back to watching reality tv shows and sucking down hamburgers all day
americans dont have internet freedom,you have your goverment looking over your shoulder and your to lazy and ignorant to do anything about it
people were more pissed off at this guy for being a so called "traitor"then being pissed off at there goverment for spying on them in the first place.this is how screwed up and shitty america has become
>>719889368 Communists everywhere.. You may not belive it but America is becoming a comunist state. The whole republican policy has been shifted by the jews.They have you by the balls, can't you see? Whoever considers itsealth Republican will be for the freedom (from taxation and regulation).
>>719889423 Time Warner, or whatever the fuck they call themselves now, will have say on what can and cannot go through their lines. Net neutrality being overturned, means corporations have say on what can be viewed.
In metaphor terms: it's like a business forcing you to watch only what they want you to watch.
Oh wait, that's already happening. "net neutrality" for TV was killed off years ago.
>>719890140 There are free market fags, but I think even they realize that this would ultimately destroy their worlds.
I can envision a world in which net neutrality is gone and a site like 4chan is allowed to exist, but only with the stipulation of installing AI copyright protection into the upload servers.....so this post for example would get rejected because I am attaching a photo the system knows is copyrighted by JLaw.
>>719890579 You don't get it don't you? In a free market there would be so many jobs. Everybody would have work and influence.If they don't they congregate in representative groups. You and everybody who supports (supposed) net granted neutrality is a C U C K and should be labeled as a comunist. 50 years ago all of you motherfuckers would have been shot on sight.
>>719890938 > Shot on sight I'm what country? Sure America put people in jail and blacklisted people, but no one was ever killed for being a communist. Also if net nutrality does get eradicated at least there will be the silver lining that I'll never have to read your dumbass ideas ever again.
Political opinions and different views have nothing to do with the Internet as a whole.
If the internet is threatend in any way. The internet WILL retaliate, period. Perhaps some people use the "Anonymous" guise to conceal themselves, others will use their real identites. Who gives a fuck? Everyone loves the internet, so therefor everyone will protest in many different ways. SOPA and PIPA were examples of this.
>>719890579 can you please tell me why people think 4chan would be removed or have to comply with something? 4chan existed before net neutrality so why won't it be "allowed" to operate if net neutrality is gone again?? i am not on either side i just wonder why people think it the internet will be ruined.
net neutrality is only a law in america, if america removes net neutrality and for some reason 4chan gets shut down they can just move the servers to a different country and use a dynamic dns
>>719891776 - 4chan is a high bandwidth, low revenue site - all revenue earned goes to paying for bandwidth -after net neutrality gets killed, 4chan has to then also pay the ISPs to distribute content. -4chan becomes financially unsustainable and shuts down
>>719888411 There is no free market in the ISP business, they've all carved out little monopolies for themselves, and refuse to compete. If you think further deregulation is going to magically make things better you're fucking retarded.
>>719892192 Kill yoursealth faggot. I want this hive of communists who depict themselves as edgy republicans to die in a fire. NO ONE IN AMERICA IS FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM.all of you idiots want is just more regulations more and more and more and you are all to stupid to search for what once it ment to be an actual republican .
>>719888597 Net neutrality was a founding concept of the internet dipshit. The 2015 regulation was in response to the ISPs actions to violate it. without net neutrality there is nothing to stop them from turning the internet into the online equivalent of cable TV, where THEY decide what you can access. Oh you want to access You-Tube? you're basic internet package doesn't include that, you'll have to ad our streaming media pack for only an additional $29.95 a month. Watch as much as you want up until your 5gb data limit! additional data can be purchased for the low, low rate of $10 per GB! Get the picture? Don't like it? you can always switch ISPs... Oh right, something like 90% of people only have one choice for broadband so fuck you, pay up. Isn't the free market awesome!
>>719892929 Then you are stupid.Or a jew. I want every man woman and child to be independent and free. More structures independent of each other equals less danger of idiots handing over their power to be free.
>>719893110 Can you tell me what the fuck do you need 30 different sites for? you can always trade information,art, watever. Again you are all communists who can't see how free market works I'm most ashamed for my country who will become a commie breeding ground in a few years.
>>719890938 I refuse to believe anyone with such a stupid belief could type in complete sentences so I'll assume you're a troll. IN THE ABSENCE OF GOVERNMENT REGULATION, LARGE COMPANIES WILL COLLUDE RATHER THAN COMPETE. COLLUSION MINIMIZES RISK ,AND GUARANTEES PROFITS. COMPETING IS DUMB WHEN YOU CAN JUST AGREE WITH THE OTHER COMPANIES IN YOUR INDUSTRY ON WHAT PRICES WILL BE, AND WHAT WAGES YOU'LL PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES. THE UNREGULATED FREE MARKET IS A FUCKING FANTASY YOU STUPID FUCK!
>>719894281 Wrong again, I was alive when Nixon was president, I grew up during Reagan, and Clinton, I've seen first hand the results of deregulation. its the whole reason we are in the mess we're in now. Capitalism, can't survive unregulated, its too Darwinian, it needs cautious regulation to keep the system from eating itself, which is what is currently begining to happen.
>>719894255 Make you own content you lazy unproductive fuck. Trade it with others, don't give up your power. Communists are stupid and lazy and you will degrade the society into a stupid and unproductive state tyranny.
>>719894960 > Trade with others Like on DVDs and CDs and Casettes? This isn't the 80s anymore dude, the Internet was invented so we didn't have to do that. > Make your own content Sure I'll just code my own video games and make porn out of sock puppets or something. Fuck off.
>>719894777 Communist faggot. Capitalism is life and it is given form by the hand of crisis .You are weak and can only conceive pleasure thus you give up power and remain addicted to plesure given to you by the government . KILL YOURSEALTH YOU COMMUNIST SCUM.
>>719894583 Nope, just not some Libertarian dumbass who thinks there's absolutely no reason for government regulation. If it were up to dumb shits like you, we wouldn't have universal education either. Why pay for other peoples' kids to get an education, right?
>>719894255 if you had to pay to access different sites what would stop people from using a proxy in a different country to surf the web?
do you think they will make it so that you can't connect to another pc? that would be the only way really, because as long as devices are connected there will be covert channels to move data and stay hidden, just like there are holes in the great firewall of china.
>>719895489 Great God give me the patience. You are not supposed to let others educate your child. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT. You are lazy besides stupid and communist. You give off your child to a stupid woman who takes xanax to educate him and then complain when he starts doing drugs and gets aids. IDIOT
>>719887884 That's because years ago, enough people would go without something to take a stand against a greedy company. Today, people are so weak and pathetic they instead cry for the government to grow in size and make more laws.
>>719895500 "Hey, let's make a movie!" "ok, how much money did we make from selling our last award winning masterpiece? Hopefully that means we can afford to make an even better expression of creativity!" "NOTHING YOU CAPITALIST FUCK, WE GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE. WE'RE MAKING THIS MOVIE IN MY BACKYARD WITH MY TOYS I MADE MYSELF, IT'S GOING TO BE THE WAY CINEMA WAS MEANT TO BE"
>>719895500 First of all, I'm not poor or an idiot. Secondly, that sounds a lot more complicated and backdoorsy than just having one internet. Thirdly, don't you think the governments would have things in place to insure that one internet's content doesn't get onto another. Like how you can't copy and paste another paper's news article into yours.
>we shouldn't have a bare minimum of education guaranteed to all children! I don't care if my insane fanatical ass can homeschool my little inbred spawn if I want to, I want other people to have to do this as well!
>Never mind that literally every country without socialized education is a shithole, and that this applies to healthcare as well.
>>719888296 It would make it very slow Like hell slow Administration would have to pay in order to provide faster access to the public, which means that 4chan as it is now(free) would be unsustainable economically
>>719896573 >discredit the only way man has to be free holy fuck you're a masterpiece
also I imagine >>719896389 was just pointing out the apparent counter-trolling where a political mastermind can't understand the difference between "you're" and "your". I genuinely thought that was the point, that it was a joke
>>719897155 How funny wowow xD watever let the governament handle to me my favorite tea spoons of spunk. You are literally this. All trolls are idiots who laugh at their chains in a (wise) fashion little realizing the key is besides them. >fuck off you demented retard you should all be thrown off a helicopter.
>>719897793 Good in a post governament age where everybody produces,everybody is king. Whoever does not produce is dead.This is what life is about you idiots. And yes I am aware this sounds like communism for you edgy trolls.
>>719898255 You should concentrate on learning a skill and learning to socialize,do small talk and not stinking.. many millennials communists both (((democrats and republicans))) miss this point and have no credibility as a resoult.
I have mixed feelings about this. First, I don't live in the US and in my country net neutrality was just anchored down in law and cannot be overturned anytime soon. Second, since I saw how much /pol/ helped Trump get elected, I feel way less bad about the possibility of this place being shut down.
Anyway, is 4chan still hosted in the US since Chinese m00t took over?
Let me put it in terms you fucktards will understand, if net neutrality is killed then when all the bandwith is allocated to people watching netflix, youtube etc your porno you found on some obscure site and want to jack off to will take 30 minutes to load.
>>719901597 >Go and read what the Republican doctrine truly was. >Chinese Kind of ironic. Historically, republican doctrine for a long time was protectionist economics, with high import tax, pretty much what Trump is planning to do and what China is still doing. This works well in a country with an underdeveloped marked in which no single corporation (or select few) have control of a market. As the economy grows, growth is further stimulated by loosening regulations and import tax (as is happening in China now), but that's not just Republican doctrine, it's neoliberal doctrine. Imposing strong import taxes and being protectionist in the current American climate is full blown retarded. That said, some regulations must apply because a fully free market is pretty much non-existent. We don't allow child labor anymore, and we don't dispose of nuclear waste in the sewers, for instance, and no one is questioning the validity of those regulations. Net neutrality is comparable: it's necessary to protect the consumer.
>Russian You cannot be serious. Trump's already considering removing the sanctions on Russia.
>>719902357 No you idiot, republicanism was for a free and independent internal market the only reason the governament existed is because people can't get out of their head the idea of a government which btw was unnecessary all along. I think this generation is too cucked you seem not to understand the concept of being free of not handing off your power. Fine fuck you! idiot cucks.
>>719903509 >republicanism was for a free and independent internal market This simply isn't true. In the early days of the US, republicans were very much in favor of protectionism. Moreover, the abolishment of Slavery, the single biggest government regulations on the 'free' market ever, was instated by a republican. >this generation I'm 37 years old. What generation are you talking about. >Fine fuck you! Nice. Now go back to actually reading up on republican history, dumbass. I've already done my homework.
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