ITT: sequels that were better than the first

evil dead 2

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>>719765982

>>719765982

You're literally (in a literal way) retarded if you think T2 and all the other crap were better than Terminator.

>>719766242
/thread

>>719766463
Im not a r tard

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>>719766463
Autism

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Best movie in the entire series.

>>719766463
Put more effort in your trolling skills

If anyone says Aliens in this thread, then you're a fucking idiot.

Aliens is a great movie, but it is not a good sequel.

Alien is an out and out horror film. Jaws or Haloween in space.

Aliens is an action flick.

Star Wars (the old new trilogy)

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>>719765982
Hot Shots: Part Deux
Shrek 2
Rambo 3 + John Rambo (yeah I know, unpopular opinion, as long as we all agree that part 2 was the weakest)

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DB evolution 2 because it can't be worse hence the sequel is better

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so much better many don't even know it was part 2

>>719766915
fucker you beat me by 15 seconds

>>719766915
Is that a sequel or a reboot?

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>>719765982
I wouldn't necessarily say 'better', but it's extremely well done while going in a completely different direction than the first movie.

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>>719766915
>>719766931
Truth.

>>719766659
I think this guy is right.

>>719766845
that's bullshit though.

>>719766915
>>719766931
bullshit #2

>inb4 Borderlands

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>>719766931
#2

>>719767014
It is a sequel to a movie I didn't find interesting at all.

Even Fury Road isn't a reboot I think.

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World War II

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this

>>719767099
goddammit I was going to post that. wtf I'm too slow this morning.

Highly awesome movie. SFX and story came out of nowhere. seen it at least 50 times.

>>719767223
And probably better than the third one, but it's a clear winner against Pitchblack

>>719767197
Nah, WWII wasn't as complex as the original. It's far more straightforward, lacking the in thematic nuance of the first. Overall inferior aesthetics.

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>>719767223
Still somebody should tell Vin Diesel to improve the metastory of his films, because they barely make any sense.

>>719767125
>bullshit #2
Do you really find the first movie better than the second one?
Apart from the last 30 minutes the first movie just seems empty to me.

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>>719767223
#3

>>719766423
Dank

>>719767099
pitch black had less cgi and shit but was better than the second movie.

>>719767296
I like the 2nd half of the 3rd one, once the Mercs get involved. Not too much of a fan of the him vs. the monster beginning bit.

Best part of Pitch Black: "Did not know who was fuckin' with"

He's probably too damn rich with the FandF movies to bother making anymore unf.

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>>719767140
Rambo is the same as Aliens. It's a good movie, but it isn't really a good sequel.

A sequel should take the original idea and take it to a higher level. Show you more of the thing that made the first movie so good.

Aliens turns the unknown into ants or bees.

Rambo takes a PTSD sufferer and makes him a hero.

They both use the original as nothing more than a platform to make a completely disconnected movie.

A perfect sequel is Predator 2.

The original is set in a remote jungle. So what would a pred be like in a huge city?

We see more gadgets, we see inside the spaceship, and we more than one of them.

Not better than the original. But just as good. And a perfect sequel.

>>719767438
good film

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>>719767676
Except the story was shit

>>719767438

Actually, this was a reboot, not a sequel. They had money this time.

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>>719766659
7 was the best

>>719767799
It's no better or worse than the original.

We're talking about sequels.

>>719767438
Came here to post this.
Evil Dead 2 > Army Of Darkness >Evil Dead >Evil Dead (2013).

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just gonna leave this here

>>719767421
I think it's kinda the same thing as Pitch Black or the Rambo series, or even Alien. The first movies feel more powerful and surprising because their specific atmosphere and world appear slowly.
I agree with this guy >>719767676
in general, but am downloading Mad Max 2 right now cos it's been 20 years since I last watched it.

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>>719767676
ok you are reading into this more than I am. I'm not too worried about adhering to the word "sequel" and all that it means as much as #2 > #1.

>>719767591
>He's probably too damn rich with the FandF movies to bother making anymore unf.

He actually really likes those movies. He'd make them for himself.

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>>719765982
T2 was nothing more than an advert for CGI.

And Arny had decided that he wanted to go into politics and would only do it if he was a good guy.

The only good Terminator movie is the first one. The rest are all bullshit cash cows.

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>>719766659
That's not part 2

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>>719768140
sequal doesnt mean it has to be the second

fucking idiot

Spiderman 2

>>719768131
The movie has very little CGI.

>>719768067
You can also post your favorite book sequel, I don't see why you can't carrying on with this bullshit

>>719766598
Not a huge Nolan fan, but I think Batman Begins is the real masterpiece of that trilogy.

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>>719768100
I hope so.
Supposedly instead of salary for pitch black he wanted the rights to Riddick, so boom you get 2 more movies. He has to get his flabby ass back in shape and fire up some more. Nothing planned showing on IMDB

>>719766845
You are incredibly stupid. Kill yourself ASAP.

>>719768280
although they kept mispronouncing falcone, whihc i can look past, like many people.

>>719765982

Totally wrong, the first is time travel story with a lot imaginative ideas, such as artificial intelligence, the frailty but perseverance of humans and the threat of technology.

The second was one large handjob to Arnie, memes galore and an totally implausible "liquid metal" robot thingy.
First was a real sci fi movie the second a clap fest for teens.

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>>719767919
Part 7 has the best Jason and kills, (when they're uncut) but 6 has the best characters, plotline, pacing, and was the moment that the series finally embraced being a full on horror comedy.
Seriously, this is one of the most underrated horror comedies of the 1980's, the golden age of the subgenre.

>>719767030
Most overrated piece of crap of all time.

>>719768280
Same here. We're a large minority unfortunately.

TDK is good but I feel overrated
Rises was very disappointing
Begins is a really great origin and sets the tone for a 'new' type of Batman more grounded in reality

>>719768537
hey atleast it's not fallout 3

>>719768080
>am downloading Mad Max 2 right now cos it's been 20 years since I last watched it.

I watched it again recently after seeing Fury Road and I really find it very impressive (and in the end Fury Road just takes a lot of elements from Road Warrior), a lot of action with good special effects for the 80's, a very ambitious atmosphere and actually an interesting story.

When I saw the first mad max I didn't feel much, got quite bored waiting for something to happen, felt like there wasn't really any story. But the second one is the one I saw first so maybe I just started with a different idea in mind.

>>719768479
Not so implausible if it's made of metallic nanobots, or a nanomaterial with intelligent properties (essentially, metallic computronium)

>>719768140
Part 2 was just a retread of the first film.

>>719768264

T1 had little if any CGI.
T2 had tons of CGI.

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Is Godfather 2 better than 1?

Or are they really just one complete movie?

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>>719768537
We posting video games now?

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>>719768507
Slight exaggeration

I'm pretty sure many men think that their wife is a million times better than their mother-in-law.

>>719768664
More CGI don't necessarily make it a bad film

>>719768665
if you ever get the chance to watch Godfather Saga (a chronological version of 1 & 2 with a few extra hours of scenes added), they become one movie, at least to me. Hard to find it though.

Help!
>eastman color
>international locales
>even zanier fab 4 zaniness than the also awesome Hard Day's Night.

>>719768198
2 is better than 6 cunt
Fuck your assumption of my thread topic rigidness

>>719768638
>only organic can go through

T2 ignores that for no other reason than convenience.

>>719768713
op didn't specify, blame him

>>719767030

first: suffocating tension as unknown creature kills all the members of a space ship

second: "marines" (?! wtf) and angry lesbian fight creatures from outer space

>>719767099

Both were a shit

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>>719768503
I remember prefering #6, probably because I wasn't expecting comedy when watching #7.

Talking about horror comedy : haven't watched Return of the living dead 1&2, but there's no way they can be as good as #3.

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>>719768656
Which was the 2nd best in the series.

Any f13 with a hockey mask is a turd.

Except jason x.

Not even trolling

>>719768665

I prefer Godfather 2. 3 was a disaster.

>>719768990
"A shit"?

>>719768887
Two ways of cheating the mechanism

1) Part of the T1000 is made of graphene, and since it's a carbon based material, the whole body can travel through it

2) The T1000 travels back in time using a different time machine, slightly more advanced than the one the resistance used. It could be a better prototype in the core facilities of Skynet, or the last time machine Skynet could develop before losing the war

>>719769056
I've never seen it. I don't regard it as a movie in the series.

>>719768537
>not a movie
You have a point, tho.

Still, since games constantly get developed with better graphics, more features and changed (hopefully improved) gameplay, any sequel in a series of games should add up and improve their predecessors. That's basically the expectation a customer has when buying them.

movies on the other hand can't live by cgi alone, so the tech-factor is a rather small one, dwarfed by good camera, writing and acting.
Therefore movie-sequels, unlike games', are not predestined to add up or improve their predecessors. If anything, they can only hope to enrich the IP as a whole.

>>719767030
its just a cheap 80s action flick
first was miles better. Doesnt have to be the same genre to compare

>>719768943
saw this in the theater when I was 7. I loved the first one. I actually think I cried because it sucked so bad. I expected Keanu Reeves to be in it. No Jack? Fuck that

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>>719768664
>The computer graphics took approximately one year from initial boarding stage to the final delivery date. It was ten months of actual production for thirty-five people so about twenty-five man years of work went into a computer graphics sequence that makes up less than five-minutes of running time in the film.
http://www.animatormag.com/archive/issue-30/issue-30-page-14/#.TwpGoJfwb6R

Pretty much just the T-1000 required CGI. Things like explosions etc. are real.

>>719769185
2 scores higher than 1 on many occasions. Enough to make the RT score 1% higher.

>>719768786
>More CGI don't necessarily make it a bad film

No, it's just that whenever Cameron has a new tech like CGI or 3D, he uses the hell out of it usually not to the detriment of the material.

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But just barely.

>>719768860
>2 is better than 6 cunt
No.

>>719768131
This comment is bad enough to clearly not be bait. It is just dumb.

>>719769153
You're right. Anything can be made up to explain a sequel. But it doesn't necessarily make it better, or even good.

A true Terminator sequel should've been multiple Terminators. Maybe 1 good one and 2 or 3 bad ones.

And also some future tech, like a gun that can kill Terminators (brought through in the stomach of one of the Ts).

The only good idea in T2 was that Sarah Connor wasn't a victim anymore. She knew what was coming and was preparing for it.

>>719769343
Incredible how much time it took back then, for a few minutes of CGI.
And yes, T2 is one of the best action movies ever and much better than T1

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World War II

>>719768829
>Hard to find it though.

It's also long as fuck. Last time it was on cable it was 6 hours long.

>>719769055
I disagree then. Those both took themselves far too seriously, and were inferior to Halloween, Black Christmas, and other more serious slasher flicks. Part 3 was when the series started getting good.

>>719768280


i loved batman begins.

but the microwave thing bugs me. its a microwave, it would kill everyone instantly.

>>719769261
Agreed.

Hammer girl, the car chase, the final fight scene, the prison yard scene, etc. Movie delivers as a top tier action film.

>>719769492
fuck off

>>719769009
RotLD 1 is actually very solid, check it out.

>>719766979
nice b8

>>719768402
Certainly as good... better, I'm not sure.

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>>719767374
This anon knows his history

>>719769594
haha funny. now GTFO and KYS

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>>719765982

>>719767676
You got an alien prequel... By the same guy and how did that turn out.... Oh that's right it was a piece of fucking shit. James Cameron did what Ridley Scott can't, make a decent alien movie.

>>719769755
it's not b8 it's true

>>719769667
yeah its a whole day event. Get some friends over, each takes a turn making gravy, drink lots of wine.

>>719769711
Carpenter fan (and samefag) here

Halloween 1+2 superior to F13 1+2 how?

>>719769966
Gravy? You all take turns jerking off? lol faggots.

>>719769891
You're not paying attention. I didn't say Aliens was shit. I said it wasn't a good sequel.

Alien: A creature so unknown that it's blood is acid.
Aliens: Ants.

>>719770074
Clemenza called the Spaghetti sauce gravy. Learn your shit first, talk second.

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>>719769663
Kek

>>719769619
Also much better than anything that came after it. It's also one of the few action movies I consider to be even good, let alone great.

In a way the effort that CGI needed was a good thing, because it forced movie makers to use real effects, which can look much better.

>>719770044
Halloween 3 is my favorite because it's so fucking stupid. I watch that movie every Halloween.

>>719770265
i loved the part where the clones attacked

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>>719770044
Halloween 1 has better acting, writing, pacing, camerawork, ost, and a better antagonist: The original Michael Myers is one of the all time great film monsters, simply because of how subtle and, for lack of a better expression, "real" he was. There are real men who did things similar to Myers, and besides the death of the boyfriend (which is the worst scene of the movie as far as I'm concerned) the deaths are real and unsettling because of that. It also helped how they portray Myers, shooting him from a distance through most of the film, an ever looming threat portrayed as this boogeyman. It also dabbles in minor thematic ideas like the nature vs nurture of people like Myers, but does so without ramming it down the audience's throat and not losing focus on the core of the film, the threat of Myers himself. There's a reason this is in the National Film Registry, it's a horror masterpiece.
Halloween 2 shouldn't have happened, but it's a fun slasher flick with good kills. I fucking love the original though, one of the all time greats.

>>719769060
Are you Jim Norton?

>>719770490
That's a different movie, I think.

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I've never been able to decide.

Is Dawn better than Night?

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can't believe no one has posted this gem.

>>719770921
Yes, but I have an unpopular opinion of the "of the dead" trilogy.
Day > Dawn > Night.
so take it with that in mind.

>>719770290

Story was still crap, and the lasting impact of the movie was the hasta la vista meme and action comedy bits common on all the late 80's early 90's movies

Arnold & friends big adventure.

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>>719770756
Yeah he's thinking about the phantom menace

>>719771027
Day first? That's a big shout.

I think I just like them all the same.

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>>719771095
What.

>>719766659
Totally agree!

>>719770921
I say yes, but the dario argento cut being the best version of it.

>>719771277
And most of the Ernest movies

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>>719769750
RotLD 1 is the only movie that gave me nightmares just cuz of the ending

>>719766423
lol thought the top said:
>classics for plebs

>>719771131
Isn't that the one with all the menacing phantoms?

>>719765982
empire strikes back

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I prefer 2 to 1.

Because Zod and no backwards Earth.

>>719768665
Look for "The Godfather - A Novel for television" (1977). It is the combination of the 2 parts done by Coppola himself.

>>719771518
That doesn't count they already knew they were going to make the movies I'm talking about ones that were good so they decided to make a sequel

>>719771560
Richard Donner's version is the best.

>>719767030
wtf, first one was better. 2nd one was a good 80s action movie, but the first one is one of the best space horror movies ever made.

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1 and 2 were so slow.
3 was fair
but 4 inspired us to hate Russians even more and was perfect for its day.

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>>719771417
No that's the Revenge of the Sith

>>719771031
We get it. You don't like the movie. The story is not the main part of the movie and that's not unusual for an action movie. Much like in Dark Souls, the universe itself is much more interesting than the story. The atmosphere is good, the pacing is good and T-1000 is a great villain, because he creates a constant sense of urgency and pressure. The effects and action are also excellent, because most of it is real and the CGI was groundbreaking at the time.

>>719766242
>>719766503
The first movie had a VERY low budget.
ED2 was basically a remake of the first movie.
Therefore, Army of Darkness the better sequel than the first.
>BOOMSTICK

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you now have the theme song in your head

>>719771917
Wasn't it Rouge One?

>>719771852
"perfect for it's day" is not a compliment here, it's a take-down.

>>719766727
Terminator films are the same way...

>>719772024
Yes and no: The first 10 minutes of Evil Dead 2 are a remake, everything after the recreation shot of the original's ending is a sequel.

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dubs get

>>719766979

this anon speaks the truth

>>719771958

The only thing interesting on Dark Souls was that your character could be one shoted by everyone.

>>719772038
It might have been Scarlet Four

>>719772279
Have you even played the game?

>>719772432
>the game

>>719772028
fucking awesome theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAAE3CjW70I

>>719771560
Every Superman movie, 70's on, were cringefests.
They have yet to make a good SM film.
Because Superman is a faggot. And the sexual tension between him and Batman is just hard to look at.

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>>719772279
Git Gud

>>719772038
Rogue One was the one with the rogue in it.

>>719772414
Scarlet Four was the one with the scarlets.

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>>719765982

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>>719765982
This.