>>719641760 It's a slogan, so to say. To remind we share the same values, morals and traditions. Funny you post that picture, seems like you are the dumb one for not even able to grasp this simple concept.
>>719643023 He's not. You can look at any of his previous statements regarding him being religious and it seems he's shit at it, pretending, or he's not religious, but there can't be a non religious person in his power.
>>719644408 Strawman. You can't base a persons honesty off of one statement.
>Obama has perpetuated the 73 cent wage gap and the 1/3 women raped myths >both items are patently false >thats 2 lies >2 is more than 1 >Obama is more dishonest than trump >Obama is the most dishonest president
This is your logic. Understand that all presidents pander to their audiences. However some lies hurt society more than others.
Those northern european countries don't have a nigger problem (yet - they will have a sandnigger problem real soon though), some have compulsory military service and they mean nothing on the world stage.
And it's too fucking cold.
That kind of socialism works GREAT when your entire population contributes. But in the US where we have a serious nigger and white trash problem it doesn't work.
>>719642021 > Whining leftie thread? We can't cast this as something as simple-minded as a left/right liberal/conservative issue. Trump isn't all that right or conservative. He is a liar and a sociopath. No matter what your political preferences, or where you live, you need to resist everything Trump is trying to do.
> Bring manufacturing back to America and compete with China
In order to achieve this, America has to produce as cheaply as China. Which means heavily lowered wages, lowered quality and lower safety regulations. The big winner in this scenario is the corporatists, who will gain huge profits. This could of course eliminate unemployment rates, but also, when everyone has two jobs that pays like half a job, it's not an improvement.
> Build a wall and deport the illegals
This is interesting. 1. how does he fund the wall, and two, who will do the jobs, illegals do? Illegals are heavily overrepresented in "dirty jobs", jobs no American wanna take. Not only simple stuff like cleaning and making tacos, but sewage, chemicall treatment etc, works too nasty but still has to be done, who will take those jobs?
> Bring back torture
This is literally scary. Torture for information. What if innocent people are taken, then tortured? Where is humanity going when this is suggested as a legit method of getting information?
> Hates lobbyists
We all know Trump said stuff about lobbyists. They are horrible people. Yet most of his comming ministers etc, are former lobbyists. One, working for ExxonMobil, a company who will make trillions if Trump, as suggested, make peace with Russia. How can you tolerate this?
>>719647177 > Bring manufacturing back to America and compete with China or you know build shit like tesla > Build a wall and deport the illegals thats a good thing >1. how does he fund the wall cut obamacare >who will do the jobs, illegals do? they will pay more due to shortage of labor, or automation will render those jobs meaningless, will bring more taxes in for sure >> Bring back torture leveling the field here, i mean cmon obama did shit to stop this, Guantanamo bay is still open >Yet most of his comming ministers etc, are former lobbyists. well kinda more like business people who according to him can get shit done, rather than those thinking of policy and another term in the office for money
>>719647177 >America has to produce as cheaply as China Or, as he's already threatened to do, you could put tariffs or exporting goods into the US, the largest consumer market in the world. He's literally hitting these corporations where it hurts. Their wallets. >How does he fund the wall Already been approved through Congress. It's very cheap in comparison to other plans. >Who will do the jobs, illegals do? Americans. Also, sewage and chemical treatment actually pays amazingly well. Most positions require degrees. >What if innocent people are taken, then tortured? Then it's just another failure on the CIA and FBI for being shitty intelligence agencies. >Lobbyists I'll give you this. But there's no reason not to make peace with Russia. It's a huge ass market.
>>719647177 >In order to achieve this, America has to produce as cheaply as China. Which means heavily lowered wages, lowered quality and lower safety regulations. The big winner in this scenario is the corporatists, who will gain huge profits. This could of course eliminate unemployment rates, but also, when everyone has two jobs that pays like half a job, it's not an improvement.
Or by lessening the taxation and regulation, the cost of importing/overseas operating won't be as beneficial (if at all). As unemployment falls, the pool of workers lessens and people aren't as desperate for work, thus companies have to freely offer better pay/benefits to attract or even keep employees. Everyone wins.
>This is interesting. 1. how does he fund the wall, and two, who will do the jobs, illegals do? Illegals are heavily overrepresented in "dirty jobs", jobs no American wanna take. Not only simple stuff like cleaning and making tacos, but sewage, chemicall treatment etc, works too nasty but still has to be done, who will take those jobs?
1. Americans WILL do those jobs, there is no reason to think they won't. "Americans" covers a lot of people with a lot of backgrounds, skills, and so forth. There are people that are willing to work, and considering if you cut the waste in welfare programs then a lot of people who can will have to work too.
>This is literally scary. Torture for information. What if innocent people are taken, then tortured? Where is humanity going when this is suggested as a legit method of getting information?
Waterboarding is scary, but doesn't have life altering effects like gouging out eyes, setting people on fire, or repeatedly breaking bones. Real torture make any of our interrogation tactics look like a day spa, and terrorist (among others) won't give up life saving info by just calling them names.
>>719647177 >ExxonMobil, a company who will make trillions if Trump, as suggested, make peace with Russia. just gotta say, anyone with the skills and expertise to do shit is going to funded by someone at this point. the best the president can do is know what he wants done, and fill his cabinet with people who will benefit doing what he wants. It is the easiest way to get them on board with his ideals
Modern Democrats are too far left to get white voters. Democrats thought transgender bathroom rights and gun confiscation were a winning platform. That shit may sell in San Francisco, but in real America people are disgusted by these an-natural and un-American policies.
>>719648817 There is not a mass gathering of atheism to do any such thing. Often it is only the atheist who truely care about other people. when christians give, its only because they have to because the bible makes them. they aren't capable of being good people on their own and need to be told how to be a good person every sunday.
>>719652252 I'm liberal and I also think the Dem's war on guns is silly. After that kindergarten got shot up I expected Repubs to not give a shit, but the people who should wanted to fix the problem at it's source, Dems, completely ignored mental health reform and went straight to banning guns even harder.
>>719642021 I mean, the liberals had to put up with 8 years of conservative whining... so, all's fair?
And the conservative whining was a lot more stupid. Does anyone even remember "If Obama gets re-elected, this time next year I'll either be dead or in prison" from Ted Nugent? Or the incessant whining and literal crying from "The Red Coats are Coming, FEMA camps, sharia law!" Alex Jones..?
The Bible is a story adapted from the very people we murdered. If you're curious, Cain (us) killing Abel (the non-agriculturalists) was THEIR story. We (Christians) need a prophet to tell us how to live, and they (tribespeople native to the lands) don't
>>719651893 children don't get to make medical decisions about for themselves, otherwise you wouldn't vaccinate a child until they were adults since children hate needles and asked if they'd want one or could decline they would. Luckily, it doesn't have to, It has one or two legal guardians to make those decisions.
>>719652842 >Things that go against our Constitution are un-American So tell me then, do you support no-fly lists, Gitmo, the PATRIOT Act, NSA wiretapping, religion (muh muslims) based databases, censorship, and everything else the Reps have pushed through, or is it just "un-American" when Dems do it?
>>719654262 USA is one of the only countries in the western world with more guns than people... if you don't think that it's part of the reason why USA has more gun violence than any other western nation, you're a mouth breathing moron.
>>719655574 C-Span covers congressional business it doesn't cover congressional temper tantrums. Telling C-span to do its job is not censorship. >>719655551 Guns cause gun violence in the same way that food causes obesity >>719655699 why the obsession with gun violence
>>719655374 I am sure, but their rape rate is skyrocketing as they import sand niggers. These countries are still a lot whiter than the US is so comparing crime rates is not helpful. But look at how fast their rates are climbing as they foolishly import third world dirt monkeys.
>>719641760 Get the fuck over it. Your cheating cunt lost. He won. We put up with Obama for 8 years and watched him fuck this country up and destroy people. Now it's time for you children to listen to the adults. I see the vandalism in DC from you tolerant, liberal and progressive retarded children. Personally had it been my property and I was there, I would have had no problem killing a few of you off.
>>719655748 >Guns cause gun violence in the same way that food causes obesity Funny you should say that. USA has some of the most relaxed food restrictions in the western world as well, and a higher than normal obesity rate as a consequence.
American conservativism causes people to become fat, violent and moronic.
Also, if an abundance of guns are the only major difference between America and other countries, why does America have way more violence?
In b4 "but other countries have more knife violence" (hint: America actually has higher knife violence and domestic violence rates than most western nations too).
>>719655958 Regardless. The US democratic party is not liberal. They support freedom for gay marriage and abortion to keep the women and homos on board and that's about it. Everything else is government control and regulating the shit out of everything.
>>719656318 >American conservativism causes people to become fat, violent
oh yeah, because of the violent use of guns in litteraly every liberal ass movie. you people worship guns because you like feeling powerful. conservatives love there guns like children, they understand what a useful tool is and would never want it to hurt anyone if avoidable.
>>719656146 Compared to USA yes. They have more consumer protections on food and drugs, and a federal healthcare system that pays for 70% of most healthcare needs. Abortion is legal, they have almost 0 gun ownership, no religion in politics or school...
>>719656411 "Government control and regulating the shit out of everything" is actually a pretty good definition of American political liberalism. Not the same thing as classical liberalism, but that is what it means here.
>>719656290 >>719656290 C-span covers certain things and doesn't cover other things. If Bernie wanted C-span to give a reality show and follow him around everywhere with cameras Paul Ryan telling him "No" is not censorship. >>719656318 >>719656318 >Also, if an abundance of guns are the only major difference between America and other countries, why does America have way more violence? I don't accept either of these premises as proven.
>>719656942 You aren't stealing the CA coastline libbies. you moved out there because of beatiful weather and ruined the place. now go back to shithole NY and stop overpopulating such a naturally resourceful landscape.
>>719657190 Because things were great under Bush sr. and Bush jr.?
Also, to the rest of the world the Democrats would also be considered conservatives. Your retarded country is so conservative that even your liberals are conservative. If conservativism made countries safer, USA would be the safest.
>>719656813 this is not like the gore vs. bush election where the popular vote was won by a couple of 100K votes. There was literally 2 million or more voters more that voted against trump. You can't deny numbers. We can say that there are more people in this country that don't like trump. Personally I don't care who became president nor about the electoral college. But I find this whole trump situation hilarious. His retard supporters excuses or arguments give me laughs and the dumb shit the protesters do have been giving me laughs.
>>719647580 >cut Obamacare He said that he's probably not going to do that anymore > Obama did shit to stop Guantanamo Acting as if the president can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to have the (at the time, republican) congress pass shit to make it happen > business people =\= lobbyists Ya ok, bud
>>719657185 probably why it has a good landscape is because liberals are protecting federal land from it being sold off unlike the conservatives that wouldnt mind all state parks shrink in size if they can make money off the land some how
>>719657782 Bro don't worry, I know he's retarded. I'm not gaining my power from him winning, it's from the liberal response. Regardless, I don't care if 2 million people more voted against him, he's smart for winning the states he did, and strategically playing the system. I think the system itself could be fixed, but, I admire him for using it to his advantage. I just find it funny how no liberals wanted the system changed till he won, you know?
>>719658093 If Obama had a Democrat-controlled Congress he would have. Denying that Democrats want to ban private ownership of the most popular firearms just shows your ignorance. Hillary and Obama sought to ban so-called assault rifles - meaning semiautomatic rifles - and they likewise don't think you should be able to own a Glock or anything they consider high-capacity. The fact that Obama didn't get it done doesn't mean he doesn't want to do it; he failed at a lot of things.
>>719657565 >because I say it, it's true Exactly why are our liberals actually conservative to the rest of the world? Because they can't make the major changes needed to be on the same level as the European cucks?
I really cant wait until our enlisted men and women get sent over seas to get fucked by the middle easterners again. i hope our govt keeps lying to us about Russia, then some major catastrophe happens which we'll blame on Russia, then off to war they go. Fuck Yeah, the world is about to get a real freedom cock shoved down its throat. i hope we can say we did it all for the keks at the funeral, when your brother, sister, mom or dad gets blown to bits by an IED.
>>719658605 What legislation was proposed that reflects what you just stated? Tell me when the Republicans voted it down. By the way, a majority of Americans including gun owners like myself have no problem with a ban on semi-automatic weapons
>>719658284 That's really what it was too. I lowkey voted for him just because I was sick of the overly PC bullshit. I know he's gonna shake up and break stuff politically, but I can only hope that liberal agenda is included in the mess. >I don't love him, I love what he can do to libs
In my country, not even the far right party is questioning the right of gay / lesbian people to be treated normal. Only the far right party is questioning the climate change. Only the far right party is questioning Islam. And only one right wing party wants tax-cuts for major corporations.
Talking about major changes: agreed to climate regulations, agreed to abortion to be legal, agreed to major economic reforms, agreed soft-drugs to be legal...
Serious, do your homework before asking silly questions.
>>719658814 He's racist why exactly? For not wanting to let mexicans break the law and jump the border? For not wanting to take in refugees that have caused hell everywhere they were let in? It's not an open border, and it isn't racist to enforce the law. He's said some questionable stuff, but to anybody that isn't overly PC, it's pretty obvious he's just a chill guy that doesn't have time to filter what he says. I'd love to actually get to know the guy, he seems aight, just demonized by the media cause people loves that shit.
>>719657874 Except that's wrong. Your American version of a "free market" isn't actually that free at all, of course you're going to see it as flawed, because it is, it's regulated too much. Look at Hong Kong, their actual free market is fucking beautiful.
>>719658880 Even the furthest right party in my country, when they had majority control, did not infringe on gay rights and abortion rights, or federal health care, or welfare, or employment insurance...
>>719658798 Yet couldn't quite keep Trump out of office, could they? Just shows, it's not all about them, regardless of how many businesses and liberals base themselves there. I'd argue NY is a tad more important to the country.
>>719660236 Because they are >>719660405 I live in Chicago, are you implying they're not? Middle eastern ideal in general are entirely incompatible with western ideals. It's in their religious law to literally rape and kill those who are not practicing their religion.
>>719659876 You literally just described American. Do you live in your basement and never go outside, or are you not from here? You obviously have a very warped view of how things are. Most people accept gays, climate change, and that corporations need a knock down. I will say that we're overly afraid of Muslims, but not without decent reason.
>>719660913 > Only teachers say that he's a bad choice Right, because the last person I'd trust to know about education is teachers. I bet you're also antivacs because you think you know better than a trained professional.
>>719660772 You know it's literally in the Christian law to rape and kill those who are not practicing their religion? Some Christians live by this law, should America also deport all Christians?
I am not saying all refugees should be allowed to enter any country, and I am in favor of good refugee camps in the area of the refugees, so the refugees don't have to go on long journeys. But come on, saying all refugees are terrorists is just plain ignorant.
>>719660913 yet this. itch believes our public teachers are being over paid....coming from a woman whose family has donated millions to get republicans elected on the House and in Congress. Her family literally bought her that Position and her life long private education.
>>719661211 Teachers unions do not give a shit about educating children, they only care about taking care of their members. They want more money for less work, that is the bottom line. And they make it impossible to fire even the most inept teachers. You just outed yourself as a leftwing teachers union shill, congrats.
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Matthew 10:34: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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