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What valid reason do you have not to own a gun? What kind of

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What valid reason do you have not to own a gun?

What kind of real man is afraid to own/learn how to use a firearm?
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I don't need a gun for anything

Still know how to use one from my time back in the army.
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>>719542465
This shit...people bitch about how police and military are the only ones who should have guns but both are heavily untrained and ignorant of how to shoot well.

>mfw the average arms bearing citizen has more firearm experience than LE/Mil
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>>719542078
I'm not a barbarian American.
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>>719543473
So you don't like living free?
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I own 22 at the moment, here's a few
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>>719543571
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>>719543571
>>719543642
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>>719543571
>>719543642
>>719543696
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>>719542078
To shoot niggers trying to steal my bike.
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I've never been pushed by any incidents that made me question my own personal safety enough that I felt the need to own a firearm.

The pros of living a cushy sheltered life in the suburbs I suppose.
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>>719543534
I hope this is sarcasm.
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>>719542078
>gun
>not owning panzershrek
The name sherk is in it.
Get rekt with panzersrekt
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It's illegal in my country.
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>>719543854
/thread
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>>719543768
Ask Eurofags how fun it is to be at the mercy of their own government and sand niggers.
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>>719542078
Convicted Felon
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>>719542078
#Eurofag - I don't need a gun.
Nobody here have guns, I would not need one.
My life is never in danger. I have not ever needed a gun in my past 20+ years. I've fired guns in the navy,(1 yr mandatory) but in my normal life, never. The criminals here does not kill ppl. We never have to shoot anybody, or threaten them with guns. Our society is not build around fear.
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>>719543759
Why not just have one just in case you need it? Plus shooting as a hobby is fun.win/win
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>>719543980
Fucking socialist faggot, your government has guns, so should you.
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>>719543926
Why do you willingly live as scum?
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>>719542078
I'm broke as fuck and can't afford one.
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>>719543854
It's actually Panzerschreck, so no Shrek for you.
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I own a gun for the specific purpose of shooting niggers who try to date my daughters and for killing cute fury meat sources.
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>>719544062
Free country ?
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>>719544046
Agreed! Dumb fucks think governments will never turn against them hahahahaha
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>>719544081
You can afford an internet connection and a devise to browse such internet...you can afford a budget firearm.
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>>719544159
...fuck it, you got me there.
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>>719543980
No wonder why the muslims rape european women and get away with it. You people are fucking faggots.
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>>719544163
That worked well for the Jews in ww2 lol socialist faggots never learn.
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>>719544163
>cops are evil racists!
>War is bad!
>Only police should have guns!
#LiberalLogic
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>>719543759
Don't worry baby, the dems are bringing the diversity to you. Because you know, it's white people out in the burbs trying to escape all the violent inner city niggers that are keeping blacks from being economically productive.
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>>719542078
Afraid? No. Try poor as hell. I'd rather have a solid hunting rifle so I could at least get some cheap meat.
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Best thread today and yes you need guns
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>>719543759
>>719544322
>ny post obamas section 8 relocation program fails miserably to do anything but push crime into a once peaceful and prosperous suburb, bloating crime and destroying property values, program runners determine they just didn't move enough blacks for the program to be successful and double down
>nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/
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>>719544323
see >>719544168
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>>719543922
You know shit about Europe. Only countries in the European Union are at the mercy of sandniggers balls.
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>>719544117
No fun allowed
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>>719544470
Eurofags suck ! Shut up pussy.
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1. dont need one
2. guns are illegal in my cunt
3. not buying a gun is cheaper
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>>719542744
Dunno what shithole country you live that your military is that bad, but I feel sorry for you bro.
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>>719544046
Well spoken by someone living in the American Corpotocracy. You are just living in an fkd up part of the world. Living in fear. If everyone payed their share of taxes, and the politicians did what was best for the people, you would have a safe life too.
I know you'll never know how it is to live here... But I know how you live, because my family moved away from it.
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>>719544649
>payed their share of taxes,

I'll never understand how you can feel entitled to the fruits of another mans labor.

You're a fucking parasite.
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>>719544273
When the police still have respect for the ppl. And they still serve and protect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8ZTKU8csw
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>>719544046
>thinking socialisim is no-guns
How do you think the revolución was won comrade?
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>>719543473
>because I'm a European with an inferiority complex who expects when I need the police they will teleport there in time to save me
Lol honestly?
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>>719542078
For a first time gun owner, what's better: A rifle or a shotgun? If I pick up a Shotgun, I decided on the Mossberg 500, and if I get a rifle I'm between a SKS and a m14
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>>719545069

that rifle sucks, and the machine sucks in it
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>>719543768
the only thing keeping the government in line is the fact that we could kill a lot of them if we wanted to
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>>719545069
There is no perfect do all gun. What are you looking to do with your firearm exactly? I can help you narrow down a good pick from there.
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Eurofag (Swiss) here. Owning a SIG 550 because of mandatory service in our country. Almost every second man here owns a 550 and P220 because of that reason.
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>>719545069

You'll have more fun with the rifle. Most ranges dont even let you shoot shotguns. Theyre mainly for bird hunting/home defense and thats about it. I've only used mine a handful of times.
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>>719544512
Not on my watch.
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>>719542078
Because I prefer to defend my home with directional IED's. YOU have to carefully aim and hope you hit your target; I hit a switch and they are converted to mist.
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>>719542078
Money. Otherwise, I would own one.
>Been without a job since March 2016.
>Couldn't afford before.
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>>719544738
Whats funny is when niggers don't have food stamps. they all die out.
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>>719545158
Hunting, range shooting, and potentially defense.
>>719544819
Not him, but modern socialists aren't in favour of firearms, if you've gone to university where these Marxist fucks hang out.
>>719545125
What's wrong with it?
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>>719544649
If you're warm and cozy in your cage that's your business.

>>719544787
Their having to deal with untermensch on a daily basis weighs fairly heavily on a lot of police. There's a lot of difference between smaller town cops and metro area cops but if you're polite and respectful you are often treated in kind. You'll see a lot of changes over the next 10-20 years in the EU as they pull their heads out of their asses and stop letting mudslimes pull the race card every time they rape one of your children.

>>719544819
>socialism is frequently in practice no guns for the people
>can't have them standing up to government bullying comrade
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>>719543980
have fun getting raped by sand niggers
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>>719545289
Once those funds run out, riots ensue...then what will you do when the police ar too busy to come stop them?
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>>719542078
it's cheaper to lease (sans insurance)
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I live in south africa, and getting a firarm here is near immposible, the kaffers(niggers) rule the country, and dissarmed the wites and are priventing us from getting a legal firearm, becase they know if they make it easy for us to get a firearm, we will start defending our homes, famillies and that there kind will get fucked up. To day a kaffer can come in to your hous here to steal, rape or murder but you are not allowed to shoot him or harm him, you will get jailed and charged.
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>>719544629
The US
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>>719542078
Cant really justify owning one what with the lottery odds of actually needing it.
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>>719545418
Get a gun (my gun) and shoot down any nigger trying to take my food.... and my bike.
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>>719545343
Get a semi-auto rifle chambered in a center fire cartridge.
>AR (5.56/.223)
>AK (7.62x39 or 5.45x39)
>SKS (7.63x39)
>Lever gun in a modern revolver cartridge such as .357

All suitable for those 3 things.
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>>719545366
Well on the other hand the US is still the number one country with the highest rape crimes.
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>>719545366
I've only seen the "sand niggers" on the news. They are kept in "Happy-camps" - (Ref: south park) and will not cause us any harm..... ;)
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>>719545343
Whats wrong with it?
>price to own
>price to shoot regularly
>lack of accuracy
>Price of magazines
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>>719545428
Insurance? Who the fuck pays gun insurance?
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>>719545524
If you ever did need one, you'll wish you had it. Also target shooting is fun.
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>>719545343
tfw youre radical far-left ideals have more in common with the right-wing ideals than modern socialisim
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>>719545656
Can't get an AK where I live, but i can pick up a VZ58
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>>719545877
Canada Im guessing?
Since you're limited on capacity (assuming CAN), id say just get an SKS
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>>719542078
ATF here, hope you got a tax stamp for that Mauser SBR citizen

And the 9mm at the bottom too
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>>719545805
If you have incurance and you use it on your self, your mother gets a "replacement-kid"... from China or India.
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Please don't read this. You will be kissed by the love of your life on the nearest Friday. However, if you do not repost this on 3 other threads, you will die within 2 days
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>>719545993
>not realizing C96s are exempt as SBRs
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>>719545449
hahaha
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>>719545851
>disease of american capitalist
Top-kek
What board is this? I'm assuming /k/?
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>>719545851
I'm sorry, my friend, you may be beginning to see through the lies of Communism.
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>>719545956
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>719546099
I'm not 100% on the legalese and whether it only applies to certain models or not but iirc they need to have an original stock/holster or an accurate reproduction, no idea what if anything actually meets the BATFE's approval there. It's not as if you can place any stock on it you please or drop it into some sort of chassis. Additionally if there were state level restrictions it likely wouldn't be exempt from those.
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>>719546958
stock clones are fine. All my state cares about is that the NFA laws are followed. The current restrictions just add state level punishment to federal violations.
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>>719546435
Nah. I truely hate the way capitalisim has enslaved the blue collar joe. Especialy the privateization of our health care fucking over the american citizen.
>pic related
This country needs to realize that its greatest asset and rsource is its own citizens and must take steps to ensure thier well being. As for my leftist ideals I'm the one willing to take up arms unlike the fag college marxist.
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>>719545023
Hello fellow /k/omando

European furry fag reports in...
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>>719544738
>I'll never understand how you can feel entitled to the fruits of another mans labor.
How is he "entitled" if he's also paying his fair share? Fucking Ameritards, I swear.
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Own a glock 19 I would own more, but I'm directing all my spending money on my car.
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Why use a gun when you have a sword?
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>>719547214
Well, I guess I can respect you more for that, but I sure as hell am not going to live under Communism. We'll be on the opposite ends, if it ever comes to that.
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>>719547508
Is that a galil?
>mah nigga
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Love my lever actions as well
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>>719547214
Allowing the wealthy to gradually weasel out of taxes, slowly castrate and infiltrate unions, and move middle class jobs overseas was a mistake.
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>>719545069
Shotgun ftw. My personal favorite gun.
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>>719547703
No.
L1A1
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>>719547214
>tfw coworker/friend is a far left commie
We have so much in common.
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>>719548009
Close friend of mine is one as well, but he's not going to shoot me for being a filthy capitalist, so it's cool.
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>>719547870
I've loved Shotguns since I was a kid, and always wanted one. Mossberg 500 Slugster is my current choice if i were to get one.
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>>719548009
Strange how people with vastly seprate ideals get along irl & on interweb boards. Its almost like the ideals arent the problem.....:^)
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>>719548251
>moderate communist
So when the radical communists are throwing you off the roof for your capitalist persuasions, he'll just be one of those in the crowd below cheering them on.
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>>719549059
Maybe, which is why I own guns and he doesn't.
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i live in the london but as soon as im 21 im leaving this shithole of a country
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>>719549160
>which is why I own guns and he doesn't.
I don't see how that follows.
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>>719549513
Him and his more hard line Commies won't do shit to me. The vast majority of gun owners in Canada are right leaning, so the full on Communists up here wouldn't have much of a chance if we ever fell into full on civil war.
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>>719549059
nyet. Comrade before ideals. No harm will come to comrade for thinking diffrent.
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>>719549429
If you want to come to the US, better start on the paperwork.

No more of that 'anyone can come in' shit
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>>719542744
Your average bubba with his tacticool bushmaster typically doesn't know shit about guns.
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>>719543642
How long did you have to wait on the paperwork for that suppressor?
>>719543736
How's that stock feel on your sore cheek?
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>>719550114
>mfw I'm five of those (you)'s
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>>719542078
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>>719550398
8 months for the suppressor, stock really doesn't hurt on either
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>>719551066
>8 months
Holy fuck!
Let's pray for that hearing protection act.
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>>719545851
>>719546328
Here's one of ivan's more sage moments and very relevant to this thread.

>>719549796
Communism can only function in a state devoid of opposition, which is a part of the reason it has never worked. Any opposition must be suppressed by force so the state takes the place of bourgeois oppression for moral reasons. But with a united people there is nothing for the state to pit the united people against other than those who think differently as former class, sex, and racial lines are dissolved and no longer matter.

>>719549957
Neither do most LE or .mil. Firearms knowledge beyond the basic is a very small part of being effective with one.
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>>719542078
The kind of man who understands statistics.
Having a gun makes you more likely to die of violence, not less.
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>>719550622
I've never understood this argument. I like guns and own guns and my dick is just fine.
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>>719542078
They're illegal in eastern Europe, i want to move to the US one day for the car scene and if i do, I'll probably get into guns, I've always wanted to own an AK
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>>719552099
yeah, and remember thats before Silencer co and all the form 4's they sent in the days up to 41F
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>>719552415
they're just tsundere~~ anon-kun. just offer to let them play with your penis if that's what they really want. ツツツ what are you a bigot?
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>>719552400
this argument has been proven false time and time again, but don't let that stop you from trotting it out. (and don't ask me to do your homework for you either, sparky. you can use the google.)
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>>719552400
>Having a gun makes you more likely to die of violence, not less.

>having a pool makes you more likely to drown
>riding in cars makes you more likely to die in a car accident
>most firearms deaths that aren't suicides are nigger gang bangers shooting at other nigger gangbangers, ie firearms owners dying to gun violence
S H O C K I N G
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>>719545023
reminds me of pic related

though I also own a dragon dildo
if only I could own a gun
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>>719553886
>most firearms deaths that aren't suicides are nigger gang bangers shooting at other nigger gangbangers, ie firearms owners dying to gun violence
You mean criminals killing each other with stolen guns. Not the same as your average law abiding gun owner
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>>719554569
>average law abiding gun owner

you mean the ones that pull their piece out any chance they get because it's a surrogate penis for them? Yeah, that's a great way to diffuse violent situations and angry people.
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>>719550114
Isn't that guy an actor?
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>>719554569
>Not the same as your average law abiding gun owner
Of course not, they are still however relevant to the statistic in question.

>>719554821
Oh you. You just can't flimflam the zimzam.
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>>719542078
I have my 215 and can't pass a background check...
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>>719554821
Yea it is
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>>719554821
It actually is.
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>>719555153
This lady used to be pro-freedom and then, after she was shot by a lunatic, her gun-grabbing astronaut husband made her a pawn of Bloomberg. Mark Kelly is a pure POS to manipulate his brain-damaged wife that way.
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>>719547508
more like this. this thread is now a femanon/trapanon posing with guns.
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>>719555677
Well you'd have to be brain damaged or lobotomized to support assault weapon bans.
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>>719554821
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>>719547935
>Dat czechnology
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>>719554821
You realize that the people who carry legally have lower rates of crime and less errors than even police right?
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>>719554821
Statistics don't support that statement. In most justified situation less than three shots are ever fired and in ccw classes it's always emphasized that it should be the last resort.
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>>719543473
I see this often from the anti-gun community: a pro-gun community is barbaric / wild-west / etc.

But in most states, those with CHL, CCL, etc have laws that allow them to apply deadly force in the defense of a person ONLY IF they did not help escalate the situation, otherwise your ass is in the slammer. As a result, any CHL, CCL carrier I know ALWAYS attempts to diffuse / de-escalate any situation they get into. In my case, I could never get into a brawl with someone else carrying because we'd both we de-escalative. Doesn't sound very barbaric to me.
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can we not?
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>>719556565
Didn't Thompson have like 19 loaded firearms in his cabin at all times?
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>>719542078
I'm a gun owning conservative and this is bait
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>>719556565
>>719556763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic
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>>719556991
He was a national treasure.
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I was caught sexually assaulting a Beretta when I was 19 so I'm not allowed to own firearms until 2022
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>>719557127
>a Beretta
Not even worth
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>>719545449

hahahahahah
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>>719557127
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>>719542078
1) I'm in Sweden, I dont need a gun.
2) I've been in the army, I know how to use one.

What kind of man needs a gun to feel secure/like a man?
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>>719542078
this is now a cringe thread
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>>719557580
How tolerant!
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>>719557547
At least he doesn't have a mosin bolt handle
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>>719557580
>I'm in Sweden, I dont need a gun.
Which explains why Sweden is such a safe secure country right now
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>>719557958
>How tolerant!
What does that have to do with the fact that gun nuts are perpetually frightened pussy-men?
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>>719557580
>1) I'm in Sweden, I dont need a gun.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
this attitude explains a lot about your shithole country.
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>>719557580
Not surprising since this is a sergeant in your army.
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>>719558228

Is that bill burr pretending to be isis?
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>>719558194
What kind of liberal circle jerk did you hear this ridiculous stereotype?
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>>719557920
>implying they arent mine
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>>719558376
The Leftist circle jerk that encompasses Sweden.
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>>719558194
Is that what HuffPo tells you?
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>>719558376
>carry gun around with you all the time because someone might hurt me! :(
>not a little bitch
pick one
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>>719558194
Real men don't fight back and do take it in the ass from mudslimes because being sodomized by immigrants isn't damaging to their masculinity like those gun owner's fragile sense of self worth and prosthetic penises.
As a gun control practitioner and firm believer in multicultural socialism this image is in my mind 24/7.
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>>719542078
>real man...
>owning a gun
Chose wisely
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>>719542078
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/14/people-are-getting-shot-by-toddlers-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/?utm_term=.859e075bbdc7

Because I don't want my dumbass future kids to shoot me.
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>>719558530
Getting ass raped by Jamal while his friends do the same to your family and having no way to stop them makes you a little bitch.
But you'd probably welcome that, huh cuck?
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>>719558674
This is why you have a safe retard.
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>>719558674
also being retarded enough to have children
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>>719558530
this. for fucks sake, open carry applies to THEME PARKS. who the fuck is going to shoot up a theme park with children in it, except for the assholes who BRING GUNS TO THEME PARKS?!

gun owners need to get some fucking perspective on their paranoia. the whole world isn't out to get you, anon anonson from doesntmatterville, and even if it was...you think you're Rambo and singlehandedly going to stop it with the one or two rooty tooty point and shooties you legally own? Get the fuck out of here.
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>>719558579
>equating not needing a gun to pacifism or the inability defend oneself
you're proving my point
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>>719558776
>>719558812
and this is why you're still single.
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>>719558878 (cont)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

THIS is what happens when gun owners try to "defend" themselves from the "system".
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>>719558878
Who mentioned open carry? 99% of people carry concealed as to not trigger others
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>>719558906
Are you saying you'd fight a muslim? What are you some kind of bigot? I bet you don't even have a folder of brown dicks on standby for when you're having a bad day.
You're just a conservative in sheep's clothing trying to discredit our movement.
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>>719559099
I did, faggot. Just because you don't take advantage of that legal right doesn't mean assholes aren't bringing guns to theme parks because "muh rights".
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>>719558734
Only the weakest white "men" need a gun to fight off niggers. Put that gun in your mouth and end it, you embarrassment to the white race.
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>>719542078
I own 4 guns, but this is a bad thread, if someone doesn't want a gun that's fine by me.
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>>719559166
>this is /pol/'s version of a rebuttal
can't imagine why you tards aren't taken seriously
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>>719559237
Nah, fuck niggers
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>>719559219
Seems like you're mad at something that isn't part of the thread. Otherwise, nice tumblr blogpost. Reblogged
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>>719549796

It's not a quote from Voltaire. It's actually from a convicted British paedophile.
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>>719558579
...the asshole we elected into office is actually curbing immigrants from entering this country, and you faggots STILL find a way to be threatened by people halfway around the globe.

are you REALLY that insecure? a group of people who don't even live here are threatening your masculinity?
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>>719559443
Seems like you're mad in general. I brought up a subject, and I'm talking about that subject. And you're butthurt about the fact that I brought up a subject.
>the definition of a safespace
Lurk moar faggot.
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>>719559368
That's not even a response to my post. Learn to read, shit-dick.
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>>719559356
>my entire argument is that real men don't use guns because they are real men
>WHY ISN'T ANYONE TAKING ME SERIOUSLY?
Here's another dick for you to salivate over Mayameen, now why don't you run along?
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>>719542078
Because i live in México
Guns are illegal here.

I'm not joking or being sarcastic, any handgun with a caliber above .45 is banned.
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>>719559606
Don't you have a bull to prep?
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>>719545449
that's why you think you need guns...
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>>719542078
Stuck in australia. Only about 1/20 guns in that photo are legal here and cost a small fortune.
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>>719559775
WOW, of ALL the places for guns to be illegal, it had to be that Cartel infested piece of shit Mexico.
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>>719542078

Nothing to hunt in the UK apart from the odd deer.

Real men don't need a gun for anything
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>>719559995
>>719559911
But in your countries, you DO have to prove that you use the guns for hunting right?
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>>719559686
>Here's another dick for you to salivate over
You're the one posting dick pics for other men on an anime image board. I'd almost think you're false flagging if you homos weren't so obsessed with interracial cuckoldry and other weird shit.
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>>719560098
return, assblasted snowflake.
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>>719560043

Nope. Vermin or stock control basically. There's not many places you can legally hunt as such. You'd have to be a landowner or in a club to kill anything with more than an air rifle really.
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>>719544621
Sorry you live in such a shit country.

You've been brainwashed to think you can trust others with give to give a shit about you when it comes down to it.
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>>719560715
Wait-- so its illegal to own a gun for everybody but rich people?
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>>719560440
>get called a pussy
>go full elton john and start spamming pictures of men's penises
>y-you're reddit!!
Goddamn, all it took was a little banter and I gave this insecure faggot a full psychological meltdown.
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>>719542078
dont have a valid reason to own one
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>>719542078
Don't need one to compensate for small penus.
For that I got my big ass car.
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>>719560775
You've been brainwashed to think you have to fear others, faggot. People don't lock their doors at night in other countries for fucks sake. Its only in America that we've got a culture of fearing one another. If someone wants to kill you, they'll find a way. Even if it means facing the possibility of castle doctrine.
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Neogaf maybe?
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>>719544819
The only way to motivate the hordes of lazy people in a socialist society is by putting a gun in their mouth. Soviet Russia taught us that.
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>>719560845
wrong anon, but your butthurt (you)s are only proving his point.
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>>719542078
Because it's a condition of my parole
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>>719542078
My 2 felony convictions...
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If you purchase a gun get proper training. I really can't stress that enough I've worked in the private security industry from the bottom dildo in a gulf cart to now VIP close protection. I've been around a lot of people that buy a gun and develop shit habits that can be hard for some to break. I would rather teach someone who has just picked up a pistol for the first time to actually use it then someone else who has been shooting for years and is stuck in terrible form and understanding.
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>>719560995
>2017
>white knighting defensive ass bandits on 4chin
shiggy
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>>719561124
ITT shit that never happened
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>>719560775

Not a shit country, just more criminals with guns than good people.

Fuck off with your brainwashed crap

>>719560803

Or someone who works for a rich person, yes
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>>719561294
>2017
>still using the term "shiggy"
whew lad, every post you submit is worse than the last....
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>>719561321
I still don't get it. Why outlaw them if all you have to do is claim you have rats on the property you own?
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Building a plain jane AR carbine. Can i get some input on the MOE SL Handguards? Do you like them? do they feel comfortable with accessory rails installed? I am only looking at putting a foregrip, and a flashlight on the front it how is the fitment of the accessories to the handguard?
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>>719561461

Airgun will kill a rat
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>>719561569
That just confuses me even more. If an airgun can kill vermin, then why is owning a gun even allowed? I don't understand the gun laws of other countries. I have to have a foreigner explain it to me like I'm 5.
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>>719542078
Either I buy a handgun or I buy groceries.
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>>719542078
it is a huge waste of money
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Just a note for the UK peeps

If all the armed response officers were on border control stopping the criminals and imported weapons. They may never actually need to arm the police the way they're talking about at the moment.
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>>719561316
Why would one lie about being a felon?

>>719561782
>>719561827
Hi Points are economical and well suited to home defense and function adequately in the role of personal defense when needed to. If you're simply not confident in your ability to responsibly own or use a firearm you can just say that though. I wouldn't begrudge someone for saying they know themselves better than I know them.
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>>719560943
I really don't understand the mentality of laying down in the face of danger, or not preparing for if and when something goes wrong. If nothing happens, then that's great. But if something bad does happen, the police won't be there instantaneously, which means you'll have to deal with it. And I'd rather be prepared than surprised.
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>>719562188
why would someone get street cred for claiming to be a felon?

these things happen. and when you claim to be one but aren't, you're just an edgelord trying to impress others. until proven otherwise, you're a lying faggot.
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>>719562206
inb4 he tells you to just not go to bad neighborhoods as if those upstanding citizens can't or won't come to you

>>719562393
>admitting you're a double felon on an anonymous image board while making no further claims is trying to garner street cred
lolwut, that's a very melanin enriched outlook.
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>>719562206
>if something bad does happen
>the police HAVE been there instantaneously multiple times in the past

>>719559072
This post is relevant. If you amass weapons, the government takes note. And if you try to use them against the government in "protest" of some made up problem in your alt right delusions, you and your entirely family get shot. Would you really sacrifice their safety and their lives just so you could "take a stand" against some foe that doesn't even live in this goddamn country yet? Are you really that petty?
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>>719561683

Limited by 12ft/lbs and over the age of 14

You can also trap or poison rats

A shotgun is allowed for bird "hunting"

A small bore rifle is allowed for vermin (foxes)

A rifle is allowed for deer culling

There isn't any other reason to own a gun in this country

I don't get why you need an assault rifle to hunt when you live in Chicago or New York City
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>>719562623
>admitting youre a felon period
That's a very edgelord outlook, you fucking degenerate. What exactly were you trying to prove with that admission anyways? Because OBVIOUSLY you're trying to prove something here but I doubt you even know what it is. Think before you speak.
>lolwut
Also kill yourself.
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I live in the first world
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>>719551066
I would like to have a silenced gun
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>>719558530
Living with the delusion that nobody wants to hurt you and/or steal your shit makes you a brain washed fool.
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>>719562696
>i dont get
We don't either. Half the country is perplexed by the logic of the other half. Do they regulate how many of these "rifles" you can own at least? Or can you just own an infinite amount of "shotguns" and "rifles" just like us? Its just that your laws are supposed to be so different than ours but in practice, they sound almost identical.
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Have one on my hip right now.
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I have no need for one. I don't hunt or kill people, so no need.
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>>719543980
Valid argument.
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>>719562965
But I don't, anon. You seem very confused.
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>>719562965
>thinking you own shit worth stealing makes you an egotistical faggot
You don't matter to anybody this much. When you do, you'll know and you can prepare for it at that time. Until then, you're just paranoid and suffering from a serious God complex. If the government DOES turn against the people, it won't be turning against individuals. It'll be systematically stripping their rights through diplomacy and legislation. And you'll still get charged with homicide if you try to shoot someone if they do that.
>IF
That's assuming you're literally so braindead that you ACTUALLY let things progress to the point of resorting to killing people. How about instead of arming against a government you don't trust, you actually FIX the fucking government instead?

Moreover-- why shoot at people who are actively trying to take your guns away from you? Its the most counter productive approach I've ever seen. They're trying to take them from you to STOP you from shooting people. Shooting them even more is just proving their point that you don't deserve to own guns in the first place.
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>>719562645
>the police HAVE been there instantaneously multiple times in the past
And they haven't been in a bunch of other cases too. Do you just like to ignore those?
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>>719542078
>gun free state
>spend $10 on pepper spray or something because only the drug lords who don't have time for you have guns

>gun state
>spend hundreds of dollars to train and buy a gun to defend yourself because even the petty thugs have guns
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>>719563342
You really are a fool aren't you?
Everyone with a social security number has some worth stealing.
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>>719563411
>ignore
This has happened so many times, I couldn't possibly track and link them all here. You're fucking retarded if you think the government isn't going to show up to your house if they see you stockpiling weapons. And I know you're retarded because other retards have tried, and been slaughtered in their homes for it. An entire family dead because of your paranoid delusions. Instead of voting in politicians you can trust, you continue to distrust any form of government and insist on arming against them instead of fixing the fucking problem in the first place. Shit like Ruby Ridge is your 2nd amendment wet dream. Gun owners bought a bunch of guns for self defense, tried to defend themselves against the government they were scared of, and literally died en masse because of it.

That is how that situation plays out every time, and gun nuts like to ignore the reality in favor of some ideal situation thats literally never happened before. You THINK that won't happen but it always does. and obviously, inb4 faggots start bringing up that one time an armed security guard did their fucking job and stopped one shooter. for every 1 case of that happening, there are 10 others where it didn't.
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>>719563558
>even the petty thugs have guns
What utopian gun free state do you live in? I bet all my guns that it wouldn't take me more than an hour to find a drug dealer on some street corner that's carrying a stolen gun. Also petty criminals don't buy guns because they can't pass the background checks.
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>>719562806
Am not the felon but am the poster you are spewing vitriolic nonsense at.
>thread topic is why don't you own guns
>guy responds saying he's a felon
>edgy
>rant about degeneracy
Just seriously kiddo, >>reddit.com/r/faggot
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>>719564029
Defending against the government is a secondary concern.
The vast majority of gun owners are armed to defend against the common criminal/crazy person, or anyone who presents a reasonable threat to themselves or their families.

Also just because guns are cool and fun to collect.
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>>719563773
>social security number
Most of you faggots have under $500 in your bank accounts. You don't have mass amounts of drugs in your basements or some other insanely lucrative enterprise. Your best case scenario is that you have nice belongings that you could just as easily defend with brass knuckles, bats, proper training, etc. You're protected under Castle doctrine only if its an intruder on your personal property. That means you have to actually have someone ON your property in order to legally "defend yourself". You have to be important enough for the government to actually show up to your house and trespass on your personal property, and spoiler: you're just not that important. A thief won't risk homicide charges for a fucking Xbox and if they do, they're dumb enough to be repelled by far less than a fucking assault rifle.
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>>719564234
This
Most gun owners have guns because they are fun not because they're afraid of the government or random thugs
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>>719564429
Yeah

Gunzrcool > self defense > uprising
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>>719563773
>social security number
>identity theft has to be done in person, on your property, and not remotely from literally anywhere
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>>719542078
So when I have a bad day I can't just blow my brains out.
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>>719542078
I don't live near niggers.

If you'd spent your money more wisely, you wouldn't live near niggers either.
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>>719564581
If you're one bad day from pulling the trigger you got bigger problems in your life
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>>719564234
>reasonable
This is where you fuck up. You think its reasonable to own a gun and use it in self defense against a home invader. We have to trust the gun owners definition of "reasonable" and the bottom line is, most gun owners can literally justify murder if they word it right to others. So your credibility is already in question, and thats BEFORE you start shooting people you just don't like.
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>>719564234
>>719564429
>>719564516

If you're that scared of your neighbours, why don't you just move?
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>>719545445
haha

serves you right, fuckface
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>>719564375
easily defend with brass knuckles, bats, proper training, etc
>implying I'm not a little old lady
Also most people have jewelry and other small things either on them or in there homes that are worth taking. You don't have to live in an ivory tower to be a victim of burglary or theft.
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>>719565009
>burglary
>theft
No, you just have to have a fucking home security system. For fucks sake, no one wants your grandmothers pearls or your fathers gold watch from 50 years ago. The shit you own has to be worth risking burglary and homicide charges in order to take. And if you live next to a bunch of people desperate enough for drug money to steal the useless shit you have and pawn it, then you need to fucking move somewhere else like an adult.
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>>719547530
>How is he "entitled" if he's also paying his fair share? Fucking Ameritards, I swear.

If he's actually paying his fair share, it's pointless as you're just giving him X money and he's giving you X money.

If your giving him X money and he's giving you =/=X money then it's technically not a fair share.

Therefore it's either practically pointless or not actually fair.
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>>719564745
if someone is in my home unbidden then yeah....... that is 100% reasonable, people don't just come into your home unbidden for kicks. Nor do all gun owners look for a reason to kill, as a matter of fact very very few are that autistic. I have had someone in my home when I and my family came home from being out to eat, he's still alive and unharmed. I held him at gun point until the police arrived. As for your previous post about stockpiling, I own over 20 firearms, and many I know own well over 50+, we are all on the gov's radar as we all own NFA items. Noone is kicking down doors......
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>>719564745
>You think its reasonable to own a gun and use it in self defense against a home invader
Uh...yeah

My life > someone else who is threatening me. Not that hard of a concept.
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>>719542078
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>>719564923
My neighbors are all great people who are also armed. I trust them totally.

It's the people who aren't my neighbors who I don't know that could be a threat.
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>>719564923
Moving is expensive. Also I like my neighbors
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>>719565343
I hope that little bearded guy got out of the way in time.
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>>719542078
far too lazy
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>>719564649
Ehh, it's not that bad. But I think about killing myself semi regularly so I don't want it to be easy so I have time to change my mind.
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>>719564745
>You think its reasonable to own a gun and use it in self defense against a home invader
>most gun owners can literally justify murder if they word it right to others

>guy breaks in and doesn't immediately flee when he realizes the residence is currently occupied
>it's the guy defending his residence and self/family that we should immediately be skeptical of
This has to be bait, right? Here's your welfare (you).
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>>719565192
Again I'm left wondering what utopian state you live in. You really don't understand reality do you? Some people can't just move.
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>>719552099
8 months isn't even the worst wait time I've seen for a tax stamp, the entire NFA system is fucked and needs to be torn apart.
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>>719565343
>this country is the only one that has to deal with home invaders
Shockingly enough, countries that have outlawed weapons still manage to "defend their homes" against invaders. Without owning weapons their children use to kill each other at school. inb4 "muh safe" argument. Yeah, that system is working REALLY well for us so far.
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>>719542078
I am British. We don't need guns here.
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>>719565587
He wasn't hit
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>>719565461
>>719565520

If you fired your gun from inside your property, how likely is it that one of your neighbours will get hurt/killed?
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>>719565790
Then some people are to blame for the paranoia they inflict upon themselves by refusing to remove themselves (and family) from what they constantly consider to be a dangerous situation.

When you wake up every day scared shitless that X is going to happen, you'd think your first response would be to fix the issue rather than buying weapons to prepare for when X goes south due to your own inaction.
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>>719565655
>its the guy defending his residence we should be skeptical of
>not his teenage son who gets pissed at school bullies, cracks his safe, takes his guns and literally murders his classmates
You fucking idiots.
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>>719566036
You should really do some Googling on violent crimes statistics in countries that have strict gun laws like the U.K.
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>>719566036
If someone has a knife, club, machete etc I still want at gun. It means I have an advantage.

If they have a gun, I at least have a level playing field.
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>>719545069
That's a pretty big price difference.

I'd personally go with the M1A. I've owned 2 and have nothing but good things to say.

A shotgun is very basic and inexpensive, but you'll learn to appreciate firearms more if you get a rifle.
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>>719566217
It's always a possibility unless you live in a remote area. That's why choosing the right ammo that won't penetrate many barriers is important.
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>>719565461
You trust them because you have no choice. They're fucking armed. If they get pissed at you, you also just so happened to be armed but thats not because you respect them. Both you and your neighbors live in perpetual fear of pissing each other off enough to warrant using guns on one another. That's not respect, thats fear.
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>>719566217
with good hollow points little to zero
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Just thought I'd point out here, shields are for defence, guns are for attack
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>>719566375
You shouldn't trust google as a news source in the first place, faggot. You're just reading biased statistics from breitbart level sources and justifying murder using shit tier infographics and incorrect quotes taken out of context from the US constitution. Can't believe you actually tried to use the "google it" argument.
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I hope this answers your question.
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>>719566360
so you're saying that his son should be bullied?
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>>719566245
Again some people can't move. Buying a $100 gun is much less expensive than moving especially if you have children.
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>>719566601
Except I don't fear them. I went and had a christmas dinner party with some of them, and we showed each other our new gun purchases and our collections.

And if you're saying that they are so unhinged that simply disrespecting them means they'll start firing over the fence at me, now who's being unreasonable and fearful?
People don't go off the edge easily just because they're armed. I think you're projecting what you would do if you ever got your sweaty little fingers on a gun.

Seek help.
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>>719566861
Are they as corrupt and criminal as America's gun control advocates?
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Go to /k/ newfag
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>>719566380
>If
>If
>if if if if if if if if if if if
ALL justifications use this one word, failing to see reality in favor of preparing for some delusion that statistically will probably never happen to you. IF is not WHEN, but gunfags seem to have forgotten that distinction and they literally ignore the deaths of their children just to hang onto their weapons. I shouldn't respect ANYBODY who would legitimately try to sacrifice a 6 year old just to hang onto a possession they don't HAVE to own but CHOOSE to.
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For the same reason I don't play video games. they will cause me to turn bad. But seriously, addressing the mental idiot problem we have is too hard so they will blame guns into extinction.
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>>719542078
I grew up around guns and can say without absolute certainty that they are useless. But if you want a reason its this:
1. takes too much time to clean
2. have a million things I would rather spend my money on/ ammo is retarded expensive
3. mace is more effective in almost every instance where I would have to defend myself

>muh overthrow tyrannical govt.
no thanks, I believe in democracy.
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I think shooting people is very very mean and you should be hit on the bum bum if you do it.
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>>719566763
A simple Google would bring up websites such as Wikipedia which is often sourced. You should look into it
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>>719543980
Every society is built around fear
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>>719545130
do you honestly think an armed populace could overthrow a government with a modern military?

small arms fire really works well against cruise missiles, jet fighters, aircraft carriers, drones, nuclear submarines, A-10s, etc.
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>>719566591
>>719566603

If you had the odd round penetrate your property for whatever reason. Would you start shooting back?
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>>719566865
I'm saying that chances are, everyone ITT has been bullied at some point. I used to BE a bully but we were kids for fucks sake. You're telling me you never made stupid mistakes when you were a kid? Did those mistakes warrant your DEATH?! Why would some asshole bullying you at high school justify killing him for fucks sake? Your lack of impulse control shouldn't threaten others lives. And your shit tier parenting skills that let your kid progress to the point of taking your guns to school shouldn't threaten the lives of other parents children either. What gives you the fucking right to decide that your life matters more than anyone elses? Self defense is one thing, but most of these shootings aren't happening because a student felt physically threatened. They're happening because children don't understand the weight of their decisions.
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Dude nice C96

Wish I had one
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>>719567078
You're waving the bloody flag there m8

My guns put no one in danger except those who would be foolish enough to threaten my safety.
I hope I never ever have to point my gun at a human, but I am prepared to if need be.
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