if you're not a vegan, you're causing animal cruelty

it's not my fault pigs and cows were born delicious

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>>719432325
if you are alive, you should thank meat eaters

>>719432403
kek

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>>719432325
Gr8 b8 m8 r8 8/8

It is proved that animals like to die to feed humans. Its written in books

>>719432325
you ever notice how many herbivore species have died off over time?
most animals now are omnivores.
a pig would eat you if you were fed to him.
something to think about.

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>>719432325
Don't care about them, survival of the fittest and humans have evolved together to become the fittest through technology.
Good b8

>>719432848
Some crime groups feed dead bodies to pigs. Gets rid of evidence

im gonna eat some bacon now

If everyone were to switch to a vegan diet a very similar number of animals would be killed/displaced to make way for the heaping tons of land needed to sustain an exponentially growing population. The weak always die to the strong, no exceptions.

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>>719432325

show me 1 vegan/vegetarian that does not use anything listed in this pic.

i dare you.

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>>719432325
>stop farming and butchering pigs
>no more bacon

Good luck with that, faggot.

>>719432848
"In fact. I have seen many pigs, eat many men. It was a bloodbath"

every animal dies at some point so why not make sure they don't go to waste? and the animals bred for eating wouldn't get to live in the first place.

>>719432325
I got a camel-fur coat, gator-skin duffel bag
Chinese labrador rug price tags
Sea turtle shell, money clip, hella tablerags
And handkerchief straight out of the African wild

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>>719432325
I love animals and I love eating animals.

I've had dog a couple times. Even fed dog meat to my dog a couple times and he loved it, too.

Fail to see the problem with eating animals, friendo.

>>719432325

and animals eating other animals isn't animal cruelty because...?

>>719432325
not being vegan is really low

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post your vegan memes

>>719432325
Damn, sweet!
Stupid lesser beings can go suffer and die for my pleasure

I hunt. For meat and sport. Fuck off

>>719432325
And what are you gonna do, treehugger? I'd tell you to fight me, but you lack the proteins to fight anyone.

>>719433179
Er, I'm no vegan, but that's ass-backwards. It requires a lot more resources to raise animals than plants. Meat production is far more resource intensive.

>>719432325
Humans masterrace, kill all animals

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Plants are what food eats.

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>animals appreciate the concept of living their lives to the full
>animals in the wild live happy, comfortable lives until they pass peacefully of old age surrounded by their loved ones
>they don't die prematurely and painfully in the wild due to predation, injury, disease, or if they get REALLY lucky, get too old to find food and starve to death
This is what veganfags actually believe

the problem isnt killing animals, or how much resource is needed to feed animals instead of farming
the problem is too many humans
the problem is retards that dont have enough money to raise 1 kid properly, having 10 kids

there is no amount of farming that can compensate that in the long run

>>719432325
I can respect people going vegan because of health and/or them loving animals, I really can. But when you try to act morally superior and shove your vegan shit down others necks we have a problem.

I mean, just because I love my son, doesn't mean I shouldn't eat him. Fuck you vegans.

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best choice.

>>719435256
heh... nice joke there
the original one was too much truth to handle that vegan faggots had to make a lame edit huh

>>719432325
>"could make their lives worth living"
lmao what is anthropomorphization

>>719432325
moralfag

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>>719432325
Animals kill and eat other animals so if you love animals you're causing animal cruelty

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who say vegan food doesn't look tasty?

>>719435414
>love
for animals
!=
>love
for people
esp own child
>>>confused you are

>>719435256
Yeah that doesn't happen. The thread literally says 'If you're not a vegan, you're causing animal cruelty'. Even though I'm pretty sure it's b8

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scenario

>>719432325
jane goodall says she loves her kids, but did you kids around the world are being abused and dying? does jane goodall try to stop this? no she doesn't

>>719432325
>Goodall
>the chimp bitch
Chimps are vicious predators.

>>719435937
You missed the joke, faggot.

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>>719432325
>if you're not a vegetarian
fixed that for you. also we can eat animals that had a happy life, it would just cost 4x as much at the grocery store. chickens that get to go outside and have at least a few feet of their own to walk around and shit in are plenty happy.

gestation crates should be outlawed of course.
I'm still eating a steak tonight btw. fuck you all.

>>719435748
Why give up beef and milk when we can stop corporations from poisoning (Fracking) and taking our water (bottling)?

It makes perfect sense.

>>719435909
is that avocado in the middle of the "hamburger"? Along with mustard?

This should be a sin

>>719433268
>>719433179
>>719432870
I feel you guys but I think the point has less to do with the fact that animals are being eaten at all and more to do with the conditions they're raised and slaughtered in, where a number of common decency provisions for space and treatment that would have given a bare minimum of comfort in these animals' lives are cut out - not even for economic feasibility reasons, literally just to scrape pennies.

I eat meat, I always will, and pity the faggot who tries to tell me otherwise, but any person with a shred of decency should know that the meat industry is capable and in need of more oversight and restriction when it comes to how their animals are treated.

>>719432325
life is cruel, yours is not better than a caged pig. just be realistic kid

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>>719432325
And nature isn't just as cruel right?

>>719435909
Too much purple in there, it looks horrible.

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>>719432325
Fuck You OP. My forefathers didn't spend all that time and energy climbing to the top of the food chain, to eat tofu.

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>>719432325
I'm largely vegetarian, but I will eat any fish I catch myself, or any animal hunted by myself or a friend. I am vegetarian because I don't want to support the meat industry; it's unsustainable and turning animals into another widget on the capitalist assembly line degrades life itself.

But I do not object on principle to the eating of meat. Life eats life. Whether it's torn apart and devoured by a wolf or shot and eaten by a human makes no difference to the rabbit. In fact, I think vegans are part of the *problem*, OP. The attitude that humans are somehow apart from nature, that we are not inextricably linked to the cycles of life and death, are why our planet stands on the brink of ecological disaster.

>>719432325
Good

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>>719432325
It's capitalism fault man, the only part where I feel sorry for eating meat is when I think in the way the animal was killed, some people deserve this kind of treatment, but animals don't. Just off themselves quickly instead of breaking their wings/legs, cutting their throats incorrectly, killing them prematurely and raising them improprably, but in a capitalist system, you have a lot of idiots doing this work, not being paid well and raising them problably is too expensive, for us and for them, but I'm not going vegan all over this shit.

>>719435909
It looks like you already ate it, and threw up.

>>719434578
I love how omnivores ignores this logic.

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>>719436247
>>719436273
A human is a collection of animal urges and the good sense to control them, within which the good sense of control must win out nearly, but never quite always, all the time.
The point is that even though we can never forget that animalia runs through our veins, our humanity is still found in holding ourselves above the animal standard.

I eat meat and I'll never stop, but I'm opposed to the cruelty with which it is prepared. We should take pride in being better than that.

>>719436399
Your education was poor

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vegans meme anyone

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>>719432325
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I don't give a single fuck. Fuck vegans, fuck animals, Actualy, I love animals cruelty. It's great.
DEATH TO ALL ANIMALS!
They deserve to be tasty!

>>719436421
I love how vegans ignore this logic.
>>719435876

>>719436327
Fuck You, I'm not sweaty, I just showered. Oh, did you mean sweety

>>719432325
PETAS == People Eating Tasty Animals

>>719436421
bitch, you are an omnivore.

>>719436421
>logic
>cruelty
two words you don't know

When you swallow my load you are no longer vegan

>>719432325
All animals are, are a living being, one link below me on the food chain. And if dog, and cat tasted better (yes I've tried both) I'd eat them fairly regularly too. And OP, if you and I were trapped on a mountain, with the grim reality of starving to death facing us, suddenly, YOU would become an animal one link below me on the food chain as well.

TL;DR? Just call me Noah, bring me two of every animal... And I will BBQ BOTH those bitches for ya!

>>719436591
What part? The meat industry aims to make the the most profit possible regardless of the consequences. That's a capitalist principle.

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LOL STUPID OMNIVORES :)

>>719436600
What the fuck broke you? You seem un-fixable, just kill yourself already...

>>719436735
This, fucking this.

>>719436800
Anyone who uses a fucking smiley on 4chan is a conformed retarded autistic.

>>719432325
if youre not buying fair trade, youre causing human cruelty

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Ignorance of omnivores is so strong!

>>719436967
Am I triggering you? :)

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>>719436421
I'm pro cruelty though

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>>719432325
The world is divided between Bacon eaters and Non-Bacon eaters.

99% of all the worlds problems are due to the NON-Bacon eaters!

>>719432325
Here's a wonderful life lesson:

https://youtu.be/PcnH_TOqi3I?t=37

>>719437135
No, I just use the words fucking and retarded a lot of the fucking time like the edgelord I am you retard.

>>719432325
No such thing as true veganism.

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>>719436011
Olympic long jumpers couldn't match the jump in your logic.

>>719435909
thing in the middle looks like a turd

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>>719436585
I am not "above" being an animal. That's the whole point of what I was explaining. I eat meat because I recognize that I am an animal no different than a dolphin or an octopus or a great ape, all of which eat meat, and all of which are highly intelligent, thoughtful, emotional, playful animals.

This idea that you are somehow "beyond" them is why our world looks the way it does. We are not separate from nature, we are part of it, and as nature goes so do we. Sustainable hunting and killing is one of the ways we stay in touch with the natural world "red in tooth and claw."

>>719436800
>>719437135
Using :) on 4chan

Kek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKie-vgUGdI

>>719436967
>>719437544
>replying to obvious bait

>>719437204
/thread

>>719432325
If you're vegan, you still cause animal cruelty.

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>>719432325

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>>719435748
I don't know what the fuck fracking is, but I know the animal industry will need water and cleaning solutions to make sure their meat-based industry(an incredibly disease-prone one) is hygienic. What's the problem?

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>>719435909
That's not food... IT'S A LIE!!!!

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>>719437397
This. I don't get why vegans have to act so transcendant about being a species that uses tools and machines. Maybe it's all the hippy-dippy granola and incense.

The 2006 report Livestock's Long Shadow, released by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) of the United Nations, states that "the livestock sector is a major stressor on many ecosystems and on the planet as a whole. Globally it is one of the largest sources of greenhouse gases and one of the leading causal factors in the loss of biodiversity, while in developed and emerging countries it is perhaps the leading source of water pollution." (In this and much other FAO usage, but not always elsewhere, poultry are included as "livestock".) Some fraction of these effects is assignable to non-meat components of the livestock sector such as the wool, egg and dairy industries, and to the livestock used for tillage. Livestock have been estimated to provide power for tillage of as much as half of the world's cropland.According to production data compiled by the FAO, 74 percent of global livestock product tonnage in 2011 was accounted for by non-meat products such as wool, eggs and milk.

>The suffering livestock animals go through is inhumane and horrible and you should feel bad about yourselves and never eat meat again DX<
>LEL ANIMALS ARE TASTY THO XDXDXD

Every damn time. Over and over and over. So dumb and unproductive.

>>719438842
when will omnivores learn to act like adults?

I'm a hunter and only eat what I kill.

Every animal I eat lived free and died in infinitely less pain than if they were left to nature.

Because my diet contains meat from animals that lived free, I consume less vegetables and grain from farms which cause indirect harm and suffering to animals.

I am more ethical than a vegan. Debate me.

>>719436796
It's not about that, it's because of the typo I've made: improprably, but the Sheldon Cooper above think in any given time I've studied english. Let him yell bamboozled alone.

>>71943232I'm an omnivore, however please explain how a vegetarian causes animal cruelty
inb4 cows don't like to be milked, chickens don't like to be forced to lay eggs for us etc...

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>>719432325
Thank god that quote doesn't affect me - I hate animals.

>only live once
>eat low tier food because you care about beings that dont have feelings and that dont understand
If youre a vegan youre just an emotional pussy

>>719438842
We get it, retard
You can't suck dick or eat pussy cause they're meats
Animals fucking die
It's not a myth it's not a fucking lie
So fucking what?
Humans and Animals have killed eachothers to survive since the dawn of time.
But unlike predators, we were smart, we keep the chicken to give us eggs and kill it afterwards.
We milked the cows before making them burgers
We kill animals for everyday life, everyhing is made from something else
A tree died to make a book
A horse died to make a cello bow
A cow died for many products to be made, such as cosmetics
You want us to go back to live in houses of dirt and go completely naked so nothing suffers?
>OH BUT PIGS ARE THE SAME AS DOGS
Maybe, some cultures eat dog, some don't eat cow, some don't eat pork, others eat bugs, we COULD eat dog as we eat pork, but we don't cause culture
Now riddle me this cocksucker
>If a venomous snake bites you, do you let yourself die, or do you back from veganism?
>The cure to the venom is made in snake farms ,extracting the venom from the snakes

>>719437397
How the fuck are we equal to animals? Are you fucking shitting me? Thats like saying someone who is mentally challenged is worth as much as a normal person because "WE'RE ALL HUMANS!! <3"

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>>719432325
Since I was a boy I've been going out hunting and kill my food, gut it, skin it and prepare it.

I must have killed 20,000+ verminous animals and around 3,000 food animals.
I looked each and every one of them in the eye before I killed them, not because of a power trip, not because I get off on it, but simply because I am higher on the food chain.
I've snared, trapped, netted (both with and without ferrets), shot (with firearms and airguns) and even taken deer with a bow.
I feed my ferrets, polecat and dogs with the food we get, Ive taught my kids to do the same.
All my family can live off the land, how many beans can you pick?

Vegans go do your thing, leave me to do mine.

>>719432325
>if you're not a vegan, you're causing animal cruelty

How's that? I kill all my own meat. The animal had a nice life in the woods before I killed it. I take an elk, a few hogs and deer a year. Hell I don't even have to leave the front porch to get our Thanksgiving turky, bastards wander around the front yard all the time

>>719435285
Bravo Anon.

>>719436796
What consequences? The suffering of beings that dont understand what is happening to them? The suffering of animals that cant have real thoughts or emotions? Do you feel bad when a squirrel gets ran over too you faggot? Meat industry makes money, theyre happy. Customers get meat, theyre happy. Everyone is happy except for a loud minority of pussies who cry over the death of farm animals.

>>719434875

>Obviously Humans are made to be vegan
>proceeds to take B-12 from pills


>mfw B-12 pills grow on trees now

What about the plants! Plants have lives too you sick bastard. I only feed off of the oxygen around me, no harm done.

>>719432325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zLx_JtcQVI

>>719432325
This is how you sound to us, you holier than thou shits!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8

abloo bloo bloo

>>719432325
And that is why we should go for canibalism instead and eat the worthless and stupid.

>>719441171
Don't forget D3, Carnosine, DHA, Creatine,
Taurine, Heme-iron which better absorbed by the body than non-heme iron/plant based.

>>719432325
I don't eat kosher meat.

>>719435256
and yet they don't shut the fuck up when nobody even asked them in the first place.lol

>>719442102
If you insist, have yourself delivered to my dinner table around 5 or 6pm please. Be cooked medium well.

>>719434875
>>719441171
It's funny really. Because a vegan is one who doesn't use or eat products made by or from living organisms. Therefore these b-12 supplements are technically not vegan. For they are produced by a living organism. Sorry vegans no b-12 for you.

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>>719442273
I do! I love me some bacon

>>719436800
Please kill yourself, you smiley using retard.

>>719442391
Are you saying all bacon is kosher? Because that deeply confuses me.

>>719435748
this is misleading. you watched one documentary, let them plant their propaganda unhindered up your ass, and now you think it is true because you heard it along with some suspenceful music.

if you're not a meat eater, you're causing faggotry

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>>719432325

If it's wrong to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat?

>>719432325
There is no difference between a non vegan and a paedophile. They are all cowards. They all get their kicks at the expense of the innocent and defenseless and tbh they're worse because they know there will be no repercussions. They are also non sentient because they have no understanding about what it is that defines consciousness and existence. With any luck, they will burn in Hell.

Go back to tumblr you sjw fagg

>>719432325
Yes but i like to think my best work comes from blowing coyotes in two with my mauser

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>>719432325
>if you're not a vegan, you're causing animal cruelty
So what's wrong with animal cruelty?

>>719442748
If it's wrong g to eat animals then why do animals eat other animals?

>>719436733

I m genuinely curious about dat. Could a vegan chick swallow a load, technically speaking ?

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>>719442816
Clap clap clap clap... That was some epic butthurt there.

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>>719443012
Of course, it's not causing any unessesary harm.

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>>719432848
I mean I think the point kind of flew over your head. The fact is we deliberately torture them while saying we love certain animals like dogs and cats, which are eaten in eastern countries. It's all just social stigma. I'm not going to say I love animals, I condone their torture so I can eat food I enjoy, I like dogs and cats, but I don't care for them on a level in which it would make me change my life if they were tortured or killed. Another point is, many of these animals wouldn't exist if it wasn't for us to being with.

>>719442935
this. the world is cruel.

there would still be suffering if the human race never happendet.

>>719443098
You're the one who got riled by the truth faggit.

>>719443172
It's killing the sperm you fucking bastard

>>719443424

Dont think vegans care about sperm

>>719443404
>muh opinion

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>>719443172
But think of the thousands of unborn children she's mercilessly devouring. Have you no heart?

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>>719443404
Hm. That's funny. I don't feel riled. Are you sure about that? Can you link to some internet proofs?

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Would like to see a counter argument to this. I will assume you think humans are of moral value no matter how edgy you think you are.

Why animals have moral value:

P1- Humans are of moral value.

P2- There is no trait absent in animals which if absent in humans would cause us to deem ourself valueless.

C- Therefore without estabilishing such a trait in animals, we contradict ourselved by deeming animals valueless.

Argument for veganism from animal moral value:

P1- Animals are of moral value

P2- There is no trait absent in animals which if absent in humans would cause us to consider anything short of non-exploitation to be an adequate expression of respect for human moral value.

C- Therefore without establishing the absence of such a trait in animals, we contradict ourselves by considering anything short of non-exploitation(veganism) to be an adequate expression of respect for animal moral value.

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>>719434973
This is Patrik Baboumian, one of the world's strongest men. Vegan.

>>719435909
That looks like a sloppy mess.
Even if there was meat in there, it would still look like a sloppy mess.

>>719435025
Even by that logic, animal agriculture is the world's largest pollutant, therefore killing us all.

If I don't see any animals suffer, they literally didn't suffer at all. Plus, foie Gras tastes at least 42,000X better than anything veges have to eat.

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>>719444224
Saved

>>719432848
Yes, let's base our moral decisions on what pigs would do. What could go wrong?

>>719433179
It takes exponentially more land and water to raise animals than to grow crops. Try again.

>>719443424
Why the fuck would vegans care about sperm? It's not sentient so it can't suffer. "Killing" sperm is no worse than itching your arm, killing skin cells in the process.

>>719435256
This a million times

>>719432325
If you're a vegan, you're causing vegetable cruelty.

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>>719432325
IIF YOURE A VEGAN YOURE CAUSING PLANT CRUELTY.

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>>719444428
He doesn't look very happy.

>>719444984
>>719444968
hive mind

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>>719432325

>>719444428
Steroids can do wonders can't they

>>719432325
I am ok with this.
Foie gras is my absolutely favorite food

>>719444827
How do you know they can't suffer are you a sperm

>>719432403
fpbp

>>719436600
Kill yourself.

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>>719436011
That's retarded, doesn't really make sense or connect up linear and logical either. You don't understand anything about soil or water resources.

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>>719432325
Yes. Proudly so.

>>719445196

Assuming that he roids. You think steroids are magic? If his vegan diet didn't provide proper nutrients it wouldn't matter how much steroids he took, and he certainly wouldn't be stronger than all the non-vegan competition.

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"Animals are evil, and must be kept in their place. And eaten whenver possible."
~ The Dalai Lama

>>719436967
Anyone who can't spell "confirmed" should off themselves immediately.

>>719445613
That shit looks good.. BBQ time!

>>719437023
Unfair wages > systematic mass murder

>>719437302
But there is such a thing as doing SOMETHING.

Maybe, so what? You think animals in the wild die peacefully when they're caught by predators?

>>719445667
>Implying it's vegetables and not genetics

Kys faggot

>>719432492
i have. but its time to progress

>>719444984
I'm vegan cause I HATE plants. Fuck them

>>719440792
>I kill all my own humans. They have nice lives before I kill them. How is this not ethical?

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>>719446087

>Vegans only eat vegetables

How dumb are you?

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It's a simple choice, only veganophobic faggots can't understand it

>>719432479
>looks crisp af, delicious

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Let me ask you this. Do you wash your hands? Did you know that every time you wash your hands or use hand sanitizer, you kill BILLIONS of innocent single celled organisms? These are LIVING THINGS with FEELINGS. You are literally MURDERERS if you wash your hands. But "oh im gonna get sick OHH I DON't WANNA BE SICK" IDIOTS. YOU HAVE TO COMMIT GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GET A LITTLE COLD? Fucking handwasher murderers

>>719442352
>Because a vegan is one who doesn't use or eat products made by or from living organisms.

> actually being this stupid

>>719445667
>proper nutrients

protein

>>719444224
yeah this thread is so hilarious

>>719445331
Technically speaking we are all sperm

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>>719432325
>>719442391
First thing tomorrow will be eating some bacon

>>719446491
It's not a phobia, you're just fucking annoying.

>>719432325
animal cruelty tastes so good man. its almost as if I evolved and am here today because my forefathers ate meat too. Damn I had a double kobe beef burger last night with cheddar cheese, grilled onions, ranch, lettuce, tomato, and a wheat bun. MMM that cow was delicious.

>>719446631
What about it?

>>719446260
>>I kill all my own humans. They have nice lives before I kill them.

Said every apex predator that has ever killed a human and eaten them

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>>719446620
>actually taking that bait

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>>719446403

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one of my funniest vegan memes

ITT: vegans getting schooled.
Sorry guys I can't give you any cream for that butthurt.
>it's made from animal products

>>719439071
If you thought that was a logical argument I don't think anyone wants to waste their time debating you.

>>719446260
wolves doesn't eat other wolves... simple as that, if you prefer to be a sheep, prepare to be kill

>>719444332
dddddddamn son, that's some tight logic there, I'm going to have to copypaste this for later. thanks

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>>719446697

lemao le bacon

>>719446561

> single celled organisms

> These are LIVING THINGS with FEELINGS.

that's where you're wrong, kiddo

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>>719444428
And how much protein gainer does he have to add to his diet to make up for the lack of meat?

Eddie Hall; One of the 5 strongest men in the world. Not a Vegan. See the difference in mass and development?

>>719433268
I dont. I make most of my shit myself. I have some old leather shoes byt since i went veg i havent had to buy any

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>>719447157
I take absolutely no credit. The argument is called "name the trait" and was made by Isaac from the yourtube channel "Askyourself".

This video of his is pure gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY&t=323s

>>719435256
All the time...

>>719444428
Nigger this guy still uses meat based non vegan supplements. He's just another fucking hypocrite

Creatine
B12
Glutamine

https://www.vegetarianbodybuilding.com/vegan-badass-patrik-baboumiam/

>>719447735
thank you friend

>>719447124
You can't be this stupid
https://youtu.be/kTdaWUDeGsg

>>719447816
I am a bodybuilder and those are not meat-based at all. What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>719447525

>>719444332
thanks for this my friend

>>719447816
Creatine and Glutamine are synthetically synthesized. B12 is in no way "meat based" it's produced by bacteria and B12 supplements are produced throught bacterial fermentatin synthesis.

>>719444332
humans are mostly immoral and evil, and more than 99% are without value, what world are you in?

>>719448155
The creatine that is normally present in human muscle may come from two potential sources, dietary (animal flesh), and/or internally manufactured

Kys faggot

>>719448382
are bacteria not living things?

>>719447307
prove it

>>719448382
See
>>719448447

>>719448132
it's basically a figth for the dominance of the pack. nothing alimentary here.

>>719447525
They're both enormous freaks by any typical person's standards. My point was that being vegan does not preclude you from being strong as fuck, let alone just average healthy.

>>719448488
they're not animals faggot, vegans refuse ANIMAL BASED PRODUCTS

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>>719447611
I believe you.

>>719448488
Bacteria have no central nervous systems, i.e. they cannot feel pain. That disqualifies them from any moral consideration.

>>719432325
Thinking of adopting a vegan diet, but only because of the health benefits.
I do think it would be more productive and fair if people and their families were only allowed to eat what they directly hunted themselves. But then you hippie manginas would whine even harder.