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I have an eerie feeling /b/ After looking through some oldfag

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I have an eerie feeling /b/

After looking through some oldfag threads, I've realized something. Something very disturbing, ironically, because what I've noticed is the lack of disturbing things on /b/ today.

I understand Oldfags of /b/ are now more mature and most don't even come here anymore let alone integrate/post with neo/b/.

However, you should still see today's newfags posting at least a few shocking things. I don't mean gore, I don't mean gross fetish porn, I don't mean insane rekt webms. I mean just, idk, the general feel and persona (?) of today's anon population.

No one even speaks with disturbing passion anymore. Every day you'd see some autistic fucker posting some disturbing, rude, passionately revolting shit on here.

This place is anonymous for a reason. There's no reason for courtesy and comradarie here. Is today's youth really this pacified? Is the testosterone gone from everyone in America today? I'm guessing a lot of you will misinterpret what I'm trying to say I'm not just ranting about not enough shocking OC on /b/ anymore. I'm talking solely about neo-anons general attitude.

You have an entire board to cuss shit, piss, be racist on a level that would scare the toughest of niggers. You'd be lucky to see one person today even using the word. On an anonymous board no less.

This is gonna sound very /pol/ey, but have the Jews really mind Controlled you? Is this generation REALLY just a bunch of low-T faggots? Do any of you have any balls anymore? It's sad enough that this is a noticeable fact. Is this the end though? Do we all just eventually sing kumbaya together and everyone’s a cuck? I know that sounds nice to some, but in reality - no. Shits insanely gay. Bunch of hens just waiting to get their heads chopped off. Every. Single. One. Of. You. Myself included. Even I've noticed myself lose any sort of edge. This post even. I’m legit scared of the future. Pre-2010 I prob would have used much more profanity.

PROFANITY,th- (cont...)
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yeah me too
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>>719388916
Newfag
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That is one FUCKED up eye
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PROFANITY blah blah nevermind wall of text is too wall. This is all lost. It’s lost. Everyone is a pussy now. Everyone is a man girl. Why?

Does anyone know what I'm talking about though? I haven't read one hung that's disturbed me in the past 5 years here. Did old /b/ really desensitize.

What's caused this?
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>>719389025
>>719389037
>>719389039
Brofist
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What is anons thoughts about this? Or am I totally off and we're not on the same page? What's up with you youngfags? You're not getting it done. This is what we pass the touch to? Where are my demented fuckers? Scare me.

All the OC created here. The hours spent on projects students, teachers, government officials of anon would spend on these stupid little memes just to give back to their community that shocked and awed them. What's happened here? Seriously. Someone make me understand?
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>>719388916
Fuck off, nigger. /b/ has always been, and always will be shit. Things may be less vulgar, harsh or whatever other term you may want to use for it but this place is still a fucking cesspit. Yes, it's toned down. Yes, many, many of the oldfags have abandoned ship. You not seeing anything disturbing is probably due to you having been here for so long you're desensitized. It's still here, just not like it used to be.
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>>719389438
I'm in now way shape or form commenting on the quality of anons bullshit now or ever.

Im talking about the manner of anons today.

Yes desensitization is probably a huge part of it. However, you should still see a shocking thing every now and then right? Just go read through a few threads and keep an eye out on how passive anons sound today.

I guess i didn't word it right. If someone who's been here forever can get what I'm talking about, it'll all make sense. Just think about how anons used to sound before. Idk just seems like people hold back, are much more polite, and cares to really speak their mind.

Its like everyone's afraid today.
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>>719389727
Ehh, I don't think these fucks are afraid so much as they're just not as.. loose? Rabid? as older anons used to be. /b/ was a place where people could come to cut loose, let out all that shit that they couldn't anywhere else and be safe doing it.

With the age of most anons dropping, which realistically we all know is happening, I'd estimate most to be around 15 or so, they don't really have that toxicity built up yet. They haven't been put through the meat grinder that is life and come out all bitter and broken yet.

Give them time, and we may see a resurgence of what you're missing.
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why do you even care so much. /b/ is cancer. you are cancer.
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>>719389945
stop replying to yourself
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>>719390145
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>>719388916
Spoken like a true newfag
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I think a lot of the nastiest, lizard-brain stuff is moved away from here because the newfriends are indoctrinated into a zero-tolerance mindset, and the oldfags find it repulsive. Its like the musicians of the 60's looking at the glamrock of the 80's. Plus, there was more of a hivemind and they would pull raids to a common goal, whereas now its just random chaos.
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>>719388916
being an edgy homo is not testosterone filled lol
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>>719389945
the internet is nowhere near as free as it was in 2010 thats why cool shit doesn't happen anymore. Also the internet is more popular than it was in 2010 or even in 2006. I guess what im gettin at here is with time more normies came along as internet got more popular among the normies.
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Millenials and whatever we decide to call the next generation tend to find it hard to be genuine. They never let go of their facade, because their facade is the only identity they have. You can always tell a true oldfag if they talk like a schitzo queer, because they're trying to pour their autism out of any outlet they can find. Newer gen fags don't need an outlet for autism because they don't care enough about anything to be autistic about it.
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>>719388916
hey man can u shut up
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ITT: Newfags acting like oldfags
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I've noticed that as-well, the slow but subtle elimination of testosterone from society.

Look at World of Warcraft for instance. Used to be a great game, created and ran by real nerds who loved death metal, energy drinks and so forth. Now it's ran by a bunch of politically correct fucking gay faggots that love their macs and iphones. Remember games like Mortal Kombat? The old Doom games, Diablo 1&2. Man even death metal bands like Cannibal Corpse, they were so raw back then. Now they're so fucking soft.

Content and media in general had this edge to it. Even Eminem back in the day. Remember how raw Eminems shit was? 4chan back then was kind of raw as well. But yeah It's something I've noticed on global scale as well, not just on 4chan dude.

The world is honestly getting pussified. But people like me and you know that in the back of our minds. The only way this could happen is with 2 things. Social media and media in general. It could just be something that happens as well when peace is pro-longed for too long of a period. Or maybe somethings going on in the spiritual realm you know?

It is eerie, pretty soon we're all going to become brainwashed, docile, politically correct non offensive, homo loving fall in line sheeple with no mind. The content around us that has no soul in it will suck the life out of you until you turn into a drone...
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>>719388916
OP, honestly it's just because facebook flooded this board and now we have pic related. It's sad.
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Op is a fag
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>>719390614
>Newer gen fags don't need an outlet for autism because they don't care enough about anything to be autistic about it.
You must be new here. The oldfags were nasty, deranged monsters. The noobs are fucking brain dead. How many times have you seen furry threads, people mentioning "a girl in class" they don't have the balls to speak to, or people asking how to smoke their first piece of weed? If I had to go online to break my weed cherry, I'd be permanently ashamed. How can someone not know how to burn a fucking piece of weed, for fucks sake?
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this is dusk these are the end times of b you fuckin faggot
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>>719391028
Wtf does wow have to do with it? Just got back from nighthold
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>>719391107

What is it with bullshit posts like this. What kind of brain-dead moron bothers to post this. "le op is a fag" meme seriously. It just de-rails the thread and makes you look 5 years old.

Maybe that's the point though. OP, maybe the Illuminati has hired dumbasses to shitpost all day and say stuff like "op is a fag" when people start catching on.

I've seen it on /x/ bro, whenever threads with truth in them start gaining some momentum some dumbasses end up coming into the thread and derailing it by arguing and nobody ends up posting anymore.
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>>719391028
If youre talking about the community, yeah wows community is pretty cancer. But i still love the game.
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>>719391435

I'm talking about content in general and used wow as an example you fucking moron.
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>>719391521
Yeah but whats the difference, moron? Make a fuckin point.
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>>719388916
There is no such thing as anonymity on the internet anymore.

Most people are afraid they will get caught.

Self censoring is the new politically correct.
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>>719388916
/b/ is now a low quality porn board.
Welcome.
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>>719389727
OP I think the issue stems from the fact that the Internet is no longer in its 'wild west' days. Everything is more organized behind the scenes and it's a lot easier to keep things documented. The sense of exploration is gone as everything is mapped out for newer generations. There's no need for them to go looking for weird websites made by unknown people. The companies tell everyone where to go essentially.

Even though we're still Anon here, it's way easy to get someone's IP and report them to the IPS or what have you. So people have a general sense of 'I need to be more cautious while I'm here'. Thus they become more toned down.
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they watch everything
the law has been consistent on internet rights, and that is that you have none

I personally knew someone who got disappeared for an internet post
he was a douchebag so I don't care that much, but all it takes is one wrong anonymous post, one thing that could be interpreted as a threat, and bam, you are fucking gone as soon as they get around to you

furthermore, the truly angry do other things now, they have more interesting outlets than this honeypot shithole now, and there was more than enough porn-loving normalfags to replace them
don't ask me what's wrong with normalfags because I still don't know
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>>719391028
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. And thus the cycle continues on and on.
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>>719388916
>>719389376

In my view, old /b/ embodied a relatively unique aspect of group culture that allowed it to become a relative cornucopia of content (not necessarily great content, mind you), which in turn became a staging ground for the foundation of anonymous: emergent identity.

When one looks at major groups that have wide popular appeal (say, football), there's an interesting, almost paradoxical transformation of an indnividual's identity when exposed to a much larger group. Cultural diffusion is what the phenomenon is called in broadstrokes, but there's a relatively perplexing change that goes on whenever a person finds themselves attracted to a particular subculture that offers a more personal connection than one wherein someone is merely born into (like a nationality). In essence, an individual who CHOOSES to openly align themselves with a club that is, by definition, a "subculture" follows that group's various rules and is rewarded on a self-perceived basis of meritocracy. "If I post OC, I'll be a /b/rother", so to speak.

But the paradox arises when an individual determines that some element of their identity comes from their participation (and acceptance) in a group--a group which, by definition (and in this case, forced by anonymity) requires its members to eliminate their individuality. When you come to /b/ to be an actual participating member, you become part of a collective "anonymous", whether you really like it or not. This constant sliding scale of individual versus group isn't a dichotomy necessarily and old /b/, I think, embraced this tension well. As people made OC, a sense of community formed. From this, people actively banded toward common goals (eg. Dusty, Chanology) that reaffirmed the importance of dissolving one's identity. To be clear: making OC is part of any subculture or niche site--but where old /b/ really SHINES and stood apart from its peers were the coordinated goals that people spontaneously rallied around. (1/2)
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>>719388916
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah I think...
I think...
it's because you're so scared that people are like this.
Maybe it's because...

maybe it's because you're the pussy faggot?
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>>719390101
I don't care at all. Just curious really. About the general pussy fixation of younger generations nowadays. Or maybe it isn't that? That's whwt I'm asking.
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>>719389727
The ylyl/porn/feels threads tend to take up the front page 90% of the time. What you're seeing is the collected thoughts and interests of thousands of people narrowed down to the 10-20 threads on front page.
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>>719390520
Was using testosterone as a general synonym for edginess I guess is what I'm finding /b/ lacking today if I had to precisely define what Im trying to get at.
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>>719394470
see >>719394419 as well
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>>719388916

Been here since 2005. People have been posting "/b/ is dead" threads for the last 11+ years.

It's funny how off base you are. /b/ used to be more about memes and joking around, not gore you fucking redditfag.
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>>719394090

Emergent identity as a result of subculture exclusivity, however, requires several factors to continue. Mainly, it requires either a semblance of hierarchical positions ("you work your way up the ladder by being one of us") or a completely decentralized community that rewards users in a pure meritocracy. /b/ has almost always followed the latter, though it experimented with tripcodes and the like to mixed results. This is great to get rid of power users--who on other sites steer the group--but comes at a cost of organization.

So what went wrong? The answer is exposure, greater accessibility to other sectors of the Internet, and (ironically) the ethos of Anonymous as being all-inclusive when, in fact, it is not. Not everyone can be a member of /b/, but someone on /b/ can come from anywhere and any station. It's a nuance that wasn't really translated for new arrivals.

Old /b/ can be typified by the statement "none of us are as cruel as all of us": as an unfettered /b/ represents (as Lovecraft writes) "a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom" from limitations. That was the identity that drove Old /b/ forward.

New /b/ can be summarized as "a diving board in the edge of a shallow pool"--a seeming adventure from above the water, or from a distance, but a complete falsehood from the point of view of anyone who's been in the pool long enough to know that this is the kiddy section most days.
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>>719394223
Your post is the cringiest shit I've read today. Congrats.
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>>719388916
They've tried forcing it on us.
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>>719390614
>You can always tell a true oldfag if they talk like a schitzo queer,
>>719390400
>lot of the nastiest, lizard-brain stuff is moved away from here
>>719390101
>. /b/ is cancer.
Even describing something, a post, as cancer is something I'm talking about regarding old/b/

Neo-anons use "autism" and "cuck" now. All safe words

Even that is an example of what I mean

>>719389945
>on't think these fucks are afraid so much as they're just not as.. loose? Rabid? as older anons used to be.
Loose. Rabbid. Nice I like it. This is exactly what I'm trying to get out you fellow oldfags. Where's the rabbidity?
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>>719388916
The difference between old /b/ (~10 years back) and /b/ today, is that in olden times people created OC, mods were actually present on the board, everybody watched, or at least knew that anime was, and the board wasn't 90% porn and political baiting.

Edginess was never any defining feature. If anything, /b/ today is far more "toxic" than it was before. Kids acted like dicks to impress the oldfags, and when the oldfags left, the annoying kids remained.
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I've come back after a couple years, been looking for about a week and I have to say it's pretty much the same old shit here these days.

There's no initiative to do raids or epic trolls that made /b/ great. OP never delivers.

Just gay shit like WWYD threads. This place needs a sage rampage.
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>>719394531
A good read until the end. It seems you missed one crucial detail in your last analogy. The diving board, the kiddie section, the adventure promised by the waters surface is all inaccessible from the getgo. Why is that? Well, Dear Anon, that's because the Pool is Closed.
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Combat has evolved, it no longer takes a warrior to kill, just a radio connection (to a drone for example).
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>>719394513
This. Project Chanology ruined /b/ for good. It attracted kids who only wanted to offend.
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>>719394841

I half considered using the relevant image, but figured that anyone bothering to read it would pick up the joke if they weren't new.
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>>719394760
The Raving Rabbids took it all.

People move on and times change. Not always for the better but nothing we can do, really. It's best that we just remember the old times fondly before pulling the trigger.
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>>719390773
OP here

31 now learned about /b/ through a niche mmo backin the day around 07-08 somewhere in there. Guy I played with asked me if I liked mudkipz one day and kept asking what it meant. /b/tard from my senior year of high school up until a year or two after scientology raids. I almost hit someone with my car wearing a faux mask during that period. Couldn't stand the shit.

Not that I care about defending myself to an actual newfag, but I'm here bored, so might as well.
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>>719391735
/thread
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>>719391028
That image

Fukken saved
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/b/ is dead. Ignore the idiots that say /b/ was never good, they weren't around in the good times. there was a certain magic to this board years ago that gradually faded and now it's almost completely gone. we strike gold once in a while, but it's so few and far between, i find myself wondering why I still come here.

I do agree though on the new generation. It seems like they are unable to question anything. any sort of authority is blindly obeyed to the point of absurdity. they're just so soft, politically-correct and neutered to the point that I don't even know what to say. I don't really agree with the Jewish mindcontrol bullshit, but there has to be estrogen in the water or something, because there's such little masculinity left.
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>>719391028
>on't think these fucks are afraid so much as they're just not as.. loose? Rabid? as older anons used to be.
Good point. Would you agree it's a good way to get an idea of how society is by looking at the music being put out and on the top charts? Most bands do sell out and cater to those buying music. Every band in history has done this. Pandering.

I think it's a solid measurement of "testosterone" in society just by the music being put out.

Faggots, niggers, sjws, and feminism today. Ofc the metal will be softer. I think you're onto something there, anon
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>>719393120
I saved this
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>>719391435
You don't read well do you?
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>>719395046
'/b/ was never good' is just a meme. With some truth to it. What I mean is that the phrase is relative to the current 'era'(for lack of a better word) of /b/ that you are browsing. The phrase is bringing to attention that there is always something absolutely retarded happening despite the good stuff happening around it in smaller quantities. At one point it was the Furfags, another time the Tripfags, then the Bronies, just to name a few. There is, was, and always will be shitposter that make /b/ not good in some form or another.

So yes, /b/ had shining moments, but it was like a Firefly drowning in a sea of shit. /b/ was never good, but it wasn't bad either.
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>>719395164
>Would you agree it's a good way to get an idea of how society is by looking at the music being put out and on the top charts?
This is a terrible measure. The record companies decide what kind of music is popular, not the public. Its the power of marketing.
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>>719388916
I think people believing that everything they do and say is being plonked into a big database somewhere leads people to self censor. I think this definitely plays a part.
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Newfags should've just lurked moar like they got told and /b/ wouldn't be in the shit hole it's in today... kids these days are fucked in the head wtf is gender fluid? I've never heard of it until I was on a mission for some oc nudes and came across a man bitch...I got the fuck outta there and it left me questioning today's society...kids really need to educate themselves instead of getting inspired by dumb as youtubers and stupid fucking "hardcore metal" bands what the fuck are their parents doing? I'd slap the gender fluid straight out my son if he ever came in and told me his name was Kelly for the day
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>>719394531
Well said 8/10
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It's because rules 1 and 2 were violated. 4chan is now basically a mainstream site.

It's been over taken by newfags who just post the same thread over and over and over. There are some oldies still here, was in a recent thread a few days ago discussing this.

If you want /b/ the way it was, you need to revolt by making this place as uncomfortable for new faces as it was before. When I first found /b/ I didn't post for about a year, you just had to lurk because it was like a completely different culture.

Now anyfag can post because he's allowed a safe space.
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>>719389089
There was a mindful push to change culture of /b/ because shit like Anonymous and various decentralized movements (brigading) for stuff. B had to change because it was dangerous. Now that /b/ is pacified oldfags hate it and have no where to brigade, the sjw's are here, and it's just lame now. /b/ is the primary tool for cultural shift shilling on the internet as far as I can see, and by that I mean the normalization of shit that shouldn't be normal because it is detrimental to a society's potential and hinders it. Now on /b/ there is just nonstop shit that is here just to corrupt the minds of the youth who are only here because they are kinda fucked up already. /b/ is full of shills for all kinds of shit too. What I see mainly is for politics in favor of Clinton, which is disgusting. /b/ is just shit and this constant shilling that manipulates ppl is what made it bad, not newfags
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When i think of a guy with lots of testosterone, i think /b/
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>>719396026
>sjw's on /b/
Come on, it’s not that bad.
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>>719395821
>>719396026
/b/ is much more contrarian and antagonistic than it was ever before. Ten years ago people would've voted for Trump as a joke, but no-one would've agreed with him.
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>>719396157
But /b/ would have never wanted Clinton either. Neo/b/ is now full of a bunch of head-up-their-ass retards that think she is actually good. It's that or her CTR troll army is making her seem like the popular one here because mainstream dick riders will go for what's trendy.

>Inb4 trump supporter

U.s. Politics is a show and has been since jfk
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>>719388916
Some of us are still here, we've just gone dark. Give it time and the wheel will turn again.
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>>719396153
On 4chan in general, yes it is fucking sjw all over /v/ too
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>>719388916
Where's the children in the washing machine thread
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>>719396353
Old /b/ wouldn't have voted at all because they were busy watching anime.
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>>719396353
This

Also, /b/ exactly is why Rob Paul was ever a thing.

RON PAUL /b/
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>>719396662
Old b would be aware of the dumbshit and just not care because of that knowledge
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>>719397029
>Old b
>b
>referring to old /b/ as if you know
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>>719397131
May not have been here long as you fsggot but I definitely remember all the damn Ron Paul threads
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>>719396353
>implying Trump doesn't have shills as well. If not more.

Wew lad
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>>719397649
Well he definitely doesn't have a whole superpac called Correct The Record whose soul purpose is to shill for Hillary on the internet and sway discourse in her favor
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>>719397649
>>719397949
>coming to this thread
>doing political baiting
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>>719388916
Heeellooooo
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>>719398644
Sorry anon I just get carried away. Not trying to bait or derail the thread
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>>719388916
>being mature is considered a degenerative trait

not only are you newfag here. you are a newfag in life. grow up bitch
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>>719399045
There is your reason.
>Anonymous

Nooope
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You really want to know the answer to that question?

Same thing happens in every environment, in every subculture, in every counterculture, in every niche, in every pocket of resistance anywhere:

Once something has been pioneered, the place those pioneers explored for the first time ends up being flooded with people who establish that novel thing as a cultural status quo.

/b/ was always complete dogshit, but it was a place for people who were so marginalized that it was like an extremophile environment. Extremophiles live in extreme places because they're the only places that can sustain them. Boring faggots flock to extreme places because they'd like to think they're interesting enough to be a pioneer.

So you have a flood of pretentious, boring people who want to be in that environment because of a desire to belong to something "novel".
At the same time, you have an exodus of the interesting, pioneering people who defined the place to begin with, who *need* to live in a fringe culture because no other place in the world can satisfy what they want.

Pioneers define a place. Normies flood it, pretending all the while that they're just as cool as the pioneers. When there are too many normies, and when the mood of a place is too diluted by retards, the pioneers move on to other places and newer things.
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>>719391028
lets not use the words pussies & testosterone for this. thats gender studies bullshit. its about people who are interesting, drive a community and never afraid to open their mouth.

back when WoW was less shitty my guild was run by an elderly couple, with a funky grandma calling targets in battlegrounds.
she didnt have balls. she had the thing gender study wimps falsely attribute to balls because deep down the know fucking well and good that every body can host a strong mind regardless if its got dem tiddies or not.

if you are looking for a good game, check out EvE. that game is like 10 years old aswell and its STILL run by great people because if you are a blimp in that game, you just lose everything, go cry in a corner and never touch the game again.

>>719399045
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
probably not the driving factor in that OP is referring to, but lets not underestimate this one

>>719399224
>other places and newer things
observation: you are still stuck with us here
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>>719398442

I think it's a little of column A and a little of column B. Part of integrating into old /b/ involved running the gauntlet of being constantly demeaned (unless you had "quality" OC or posts) and berated. This is more of a qualitative observation, and I'm not stating that new /b/ is any more (or less) vicious than old /b/ in some respects when it comes to its treatment of new users, but nothing /quite/ like old /b/ was really prevalent on the Internet. Sure, you'd get criticisms on old Angelfire or DeviantArt or other sites, but /b/ (in my view) differed from many, though not all, sites in it explicitly had no real expressed purpose and the onus was on new members to integrate under pressure, rather than trying to accept them into the fold. This differs from sites where the commonality is something clearly identifiable and anonymity was less of a mechanism.

In this sense, I don't see it as "new /b/" being full of fakers, but rather that they lack the core of what makes /b/, /b/ in most of their experiences on the site. It's simply a shift that's occurred. What new users lack is a willingness to critically engage (as odd as that sounds) with the group and blur the lines between where "I, a user", and "we, the group" is clearly demarcated.

Of course, that comes down to a host of OTHER factors, such as self-policing and lack of true anonymity, along with other things. Though I suppose the only way to tell the difference between the "quality" of someone posting on /b/ isn't necessarily in the quality of the post (though OC is always welcome), but the manner whereby they engage in dialogues that build the attention of other users to something beyond mere shitposting. That's exactly how large-scale operations started in old /b/: momentum toward a common goal that was brought to attention by an emergent process (like Dusty).

That, I think, is the highest quality of /b/ that we miss: seeing the swarm choose something, thereby giving it meaning.
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>>719388916
I should tear the elements out of a toaster. Shove 1 up your ass and wrap the other around your little cock- then turn them on.
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>>719399224
The normies came and then the shills followed. This is what killed /b/ for sure
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>>719388916
>subliminally promoting bad values

nice try satan
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>>719388916
Will you go back to redit?
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>>719389039
the absolute madman
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It's been subverted by shills. High powered organisations have had interest in this website for years, and it has been well documented for anybody paying attention.

It is the only reason it still exists. Nothing about this place is profitable.

People are paid to post on here and make you all into good little helpless consumers.
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>>719399544
>>719399599

now what
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>>719399599
check'd
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>>719399544
>>719399599
REKT
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>>719399424
>momentum toward a common goal that was brought to attention by an emergent process
for a long time i was thinking if we build on a different board software that positively reinforces this thing happening, we would fix many of our problems. and then we saw what happens when the combined might of leddit and /pol/ build proper momentum and i dont know if thats really where we want to go.
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>>719393120
>this drivel
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>>719399544
>>719399599
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>>719388916
watch yo profanity
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>>719399424
>critically engage with the group
this is one i blame on education systems around the world. which always seem to degrade up to a point where economical damage is so unbearable that someone fixes it. people just dont learn HOW to even fucking debate at school.
neither did it. all the knowledge about debate, logic(al fallacies) and proper arguing i have comes from telling people how wrong they are on stupid image boards, stupidest of which always heving been this one.
everything my school teached me was how to AVOID conflict (because generally, you dont *win* an argument against a teacher).
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Candyass everywhere
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>>719400025
wrong pic, meant to post this one. its so fucking stereotypical of how people dont know how to critically engage with fucking ANYTHING because they have been conditioned to not argue with anyone.

>>719400000 is a negroe
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>>719388916
Old times are dead, the New /b/ is filled with faggots and weak kiddos trying to be "edgy"...

Most of oldfags that i know move to /pol/ or /int/ years ago, but we have not the time that we have back then, most of us have childs, wife and a work that consume our time.

But yeah, the New generation is so weak and stupid that scared me, not only the cancerous lgtb or sjw shit, /b/ too.
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>>719399758

You raise an interesting point, and a consequence of reorganizing /b/ to "recreate the magic" would likely be that /b/ becomes a shell of its former self (as it were).

Reddit in particular suffers from aspects of the hierarchy model that I outlined in an earlier post: as certain users (including administrators) become more influential, they steer the group onwards, which often leads to polarization and an ideological foundation. You can write the most efficient code to weight comments and posts towards a specific goal, but part of that sacrifices the genuine aspects of a group like /b/ in the process. /b/'s "magic" is tied to its highly decentralized nature--if you think about how /b/ organized raids or DDOS attacks, its pattern of behavior was far more zealous and spontaneous than the cooperated efforts of users on other sites like Reddit during their manhunts.

It isn't that /b/ needs to go towards a specific goal with a carrot and a stick, it's that /b/ can become /b/ when it has the ability to go toward ANY goal that it sees fit. That's the key: /b/ sacrifices direction for flexibility. It's what makes those events amazing; they're essentially random and the ethos is tied to "everyone finds it funny/good/interesting", rather than for a nominally ideological purpose (like Tumblr) or a desire to gain Internet points (like Reddit).

Whether /b/ can pick "worthy" goals in its current state is another matter, though.
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well, first you have the euro cucks that can get arrested nowadays for saying nigger.

secondly, anybody that wants to talk about niggers goes to /pol/.
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>>719400192
Quite the opposite these days.
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>>719388916
blame /soc/ and [s4s]
those two boards where what /b/ use to be
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I'm an oldfagXD
candyass newt gingrich XD
I miss /b/ raids on girls who commit suicides facebook memorial pages :(
Now /b/ is all gay and shit. When people say "4chan has always been bad!" they're retarded.
/b/ has always been shit, but now it's boring shit.
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>>719388916

/b/ used to be a sub-community where people would come and do things; the fun part of going to /b/ wasn't watching others play, instead it was the act of playing. We're comparing the old /b/ to a sandbox right now; watching the sand just be isn't exactly interesting. But with a little bit of creativity, comedy and showmanship insanely creative worlds and stories could be brought to life on that sandbox. Because everyone knows the "real" 4chan is inside their minds they'd play along, just like in a sandbox. There's sportmanship with the stories played out because without it there's no story. Nobody knows how the story ends because it's not an act, it's just playing.

As time passed /b/ and 4chan became more popular but not because the act of playing became popular, but because the playing sessions became very imaginative and creative. The audience didn't come to 4chan or /b/ because they loved to play, instead they came to view the playing. So in a sense 4chan and /b/ has transformed from a sandbox into a sort of stage with the sandbox on it; the "sandbox" didn't grow in size nor did the amount of people playing on it, somebody just added seats around it. And like in a baseball game the viewers talk among each other all the time, so much so that the act on that sandbox becomes indistinguishable from all the other things taking place. Some asshole's constantly trying to sell you snacks, the guy next to you is really drunk and wants to talk about his insecurities, etc. And really; the only times when viewers would participate the game was to heckle it. As more seats are added and more new people show up the less people remember how it all started and what really makes that "epic 4chan shit". The sandbox turned into a meeting place. The sandbox is still in center of what's now a sort of flat stadium, but it's empty.

So in short /b/ and the new generation of people are shit because they're consumers, they just happen to be more so than you are.
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>>719399667
Just saw a thread shilling against vapes yesterday. Idky it isn't apparent to everyone that the memetic propaganda that compares vaping to sucking dick, being gay, neckbeard, etc is conditioning people to hate vapimg by association with things they don't like and shifting society away from this alternative to smoking.

>huir hurrr no one would do that.

Oh yeah because tobacco companies totally didn't lie about the safety of smoking and isn't in their death throws in the u.s.

This is how they are eliminating their competition. Notice how now cape shops are gonna have to start getting their oils FDA approved too. That shit cost money. Big tobacco using the law and manipulation of society to eliminate their competition
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>>719394223
Fucking faggot
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>>719400454
Oh, i wasnt even going into a ideological direction here. Heck, i would disagree to most such goals if that was the metric. Helping in getting a fucking fat troll elected WAS unarguable a ridiculously funny move.
But it wasnt an idea born here, it was just a marketing manager seeing how le memes and le bait can be used, and then he used both. Most of the other shit we did was NOT someone else wanted us to do. We actually used to make perfectly clear that if theres nothing in for us, we wouldnt be anyone army but our own.
if thats he price, fuck worthy goals. but dont just be a bitch/tool available to anyone who can afford to pay a small number of bots / mods to steer the community to his liking.
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>>719389727
I've been here for a fucking decade and I don't know what exactly you're aiming at, but you saying...

>Its like everyone's afraid today.

...Now that got me. That's the same thing I thought to myself a few years back but couldn't back it up. Now that you mentioned it, in that sense, /b/ really did change. And by change I don't mean slightly change, I mean drastically.

Try to look at it as a timeline of /b/ changing.
Anyone who fucked around here before, at least 2010, should also be able to see how anons changed. When I look at it as a timeline, it makes me wonder...
How will /b/ look like by 2025?
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Clearly you misunderstand old /b/. There most definitely was a sense of comradery. It was a place where likeminded losers bonded. We called each other faggots and shit don't get me wrong, but there was an undeniable bond between everyone.
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>>719391454

Wow, I seriously hope you´re fucking kidding, you cringy, beta sack of sore puss.

Especially if you just happen to be OP. My god, the mere thought of OP and the likes of you make my toenails curl backwards.

You have the balls coming here to /b/ out of all the places, only to complain about a general lack of profanity and "le sick shit" and then complaining about "OP´s a fag"?

Seriously? Seriously?? Honestly, I can count exactly 0 reasons why you shouldn´t just go lay down on the nearest rails and wait for the express train, you degenerate.

Summer´s not until june.

Also, you just lost the game.
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>>719401267
Also, let me add one more thing...
I changed as well...
For example, this is the first post I made in... a week?
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No, this board is just flooded with retards and ESL foreigners. All the smart folks from last decade /b/ moved on to other boards or killed themselves.
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>>719400535
Well, I wouldnt necessarily put triggly puff into the "know how to critically engage" group. Naw, i meant real debate.
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>>719401468
That I can agree on
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Fucking kill yourself you fucking dumb cunt faggot.

Happy? Go back to /pol/ if you want to feel giddy over saying the word 'nigger' like a 'big boy'. Fucking retarded cunt.
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I'm an OG oldfag and I can tell you the difference. At the beginning it was ironic. The aspies were legit laughed at. The racism and sexism was a joke. It was funny because we didn't feel that way. With influx after influx of newfags they began to lose the irony. They thought we were serious. They believed in anonymous. It wasn't funny anymore when people actually believe what they're saying. Treating this place as a refuge for hatred and retardation is what made it retarded. 4chan was good before it had teeth. People holding it as some place to say how you really feel ruined it.
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>>719400296
Dear old fag,
Oh dear....fag old
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>>719401267
/b/ won't make it past 2018, let alone 2025
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>>719401350

Hey dumbass, clearly you don't browse anywhere else but /b/. Otherwise you would know there are a bunch of jews shilling on every board in any thread that garners attention related to controversial current events.

When xbox one first came out, or windows 10 pajeets and microshills were in full damage control derailing threads left right and centre. A common tactic for them was to say stupid pointless shit that would kill a thread and discourage any kind of coherent conversation.

I'm not OP either you fucking tard.
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