if you're not a vegan, you're causing animal cruelty

>>719372442
I like to name my food before I eat it.

>>719372442
I believe that one day steaks will be rare.

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>>719372442
that just gives me more reasons to keep eating meat

>>719372442

You're right. But I'm a terrible person and don't have the willpower to cut animal products out of my diet completely (Yet). I hope I get there one day.

too long didn't read.

>>719372945
Cuck.

>>719372442

I love animals, and I love eating them too.

See? I get to do both and you don't, because you're a very simplistic, polarized person and I'm not!

Tee hee!

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Hey listen you little faggot, I love the smell of meat, I love BBQs and shit, and I am slowly cutting down on the amount of meat I consume on a daily basis and I have found new shit to eat obviously with a different taste and it is refreshing to say the least, and I also found amazingly shit that actually tastes very much like meat, these vegan mofos are getting Crafty, and thats good, but I have meat occasionally now slowly cutting back on it, I have felt better eating healthier though, instead of eating like a dumb nigger, its refreshing to my palate, tasting all these new foods and flavors, not to mention for some reason I don't feel as depressed its amazing what a slight change of diet can do.

>>719372442
Instead, you want to either allow animals to roam free with zero healthcare or guaranteed food and water, or be cooped up their entire lives without knowing what freedom is.
Animals serve a purpose - one of which is to feed things - other animals, insects, even plants - and yes, humans.
You are disrupting that circle because of your misplaced ideaologies that are unnatural.

>>719373726
Too bad you're still a dumbass and can't even figure out that fake meat only exists because we intrinsically need and desire meat

I agree, but Im a predator so fuck you.

>>719372442
You're premise is false.

>>719372442
Veganfags GTFO!!!!

Self-righteous twats.

>>719374020
You can disagree with that idiot all you want, but why the hell are you anthropomorphizing nature? Animals do not serve a purpose, humans do not serve a purpose, and the idea of something being natural is entirely useless.

>>719374020
So by your logic we are also food yea? Everyones food yea?

>>719374475
Take a look at bees sir. They serve a purpose. I could name more but making you look like an idiot wouldnt be any fun

>>719372442
"animal cruelty" so you mean devouring them where theres nothing left?

tell me why a bear, a lion, and a tiger also practice "animal cruelty" to humans?

>>719374093
too bad you're the fucking retard who thinks humans need to eat meat in the 21st fuckign century to survive, you dumb mongoloid.

>>719374596
Nothing serves a purpose. Just saying because bees doesn't foster your point. Bees exist independent of any purpose. They are just fucking bees. They are only (still) here because they were selected, and that does not presuppose a purpose of any kind.

>>719374689
We dont have to do a lot of things. Like be on the internet, but here you are. Welcome to being a human fuckboi

>>719374774
You are a very sheltered and depressed person if you think nothing serves a purpose

>>719374780
He got you bro. I don't know why you said 'need' in the first place.

>>719372442
Fake news

>>719374780
You have subhuman genes if you think humans need to consume meat in the 21st century, and the human race would do well without yours in the future, you mong.

>>719374826
Your attack on my character does not deflate my point. I'm sorry you think so little of me, though.

>>719374911
Oh hey look hes samfagging

>>719374978
You must be pretty stupid to think I said we needed to eat meat. Im reading what I wrote and thats not there. 4chan wars at its best XD

>>719374826
your existence doesn't have a purpose, you pleb.

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>>719372442
If you are a vegan, you are causing plant cruelty.

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>>719375104
Say that to the 8 homeless shelter and 5 animal shelters I run. Life has a purpose, you just need to find it. Im guessing you voted for Hillay?

>>719374510
We were, until we disrupted that cycle by using chemicals to preserve dead tissue so people can see you without you rotting too fast.
We used to serve as food for the soil, now - we're a toxic sludge placed in concrete lined wooden boxes.

>>719374475
Everything serves a purpose, if you can't see or understand that, you're extremely narrow minded. Also, you're using anthropomorphism wrong. I did not say nature is angry or some other new age bullshit, I said everything is connected and serves a practical purpose - animals are food sources that we and other animals eat, and if they die uneaten, they feed vegetation.
It's not a difficult idea to understand.

>>719375067
>we intrinsically need and desire meat

holy shit, this guy is a retard, must be all that meat he eats

>>719375137
kuku did u really just goto paint and do all that ahahahah

>>719375067
I'm not him, but you literally said "intrinsically need and desire meat."

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>>719372442
Damn right! Cruelty is delicious! Something about torture just makes the meat fall right off the bone.

>>719372442
sleep tight doggo

>>719372442
It's impossible to live in modern society without using something that's caused cruelty to animals, if you were actually concerned about animal welfare you'd do something to help them instead of posting shit tier bait.

>>719375253
lmao that's what i pointed out, what a mongoloid , typical meat eater.

>>719374846

>>719375208
Toxic? I dont buy my foods at a store. I grow my own veggies and buy by stuff from an organic farm XD

>>719375241
Yes?

Factory farming is the problem. If an animal has a free life then there is no problem eating it.

>>719375225
I never said that. So...? Vegans man are the worst lol

>>719372442
Why be vegan when I can eat meat instead

>>719372442
Sucks for them

>>719372442

Veganfag, here. Loving my energy, sense of well-being, skin and non-lethal shit smells from a meat-free diet.

>>719372442
What if I go out into the woods, shoot an animal, then eat it. Got a problem with that?

>>719375253
the worst part though is what he said afterwards though

>You must be pretty stupid to think I said we needed to eat meat. Im reading what I wrote and thats not there. 4chan wars at its best XD

make me cringe more, fucking mongoloid

>>719372442
I'll take my morals from a chick who doesn't fuck monkeys on the down-low thanks.

>>719375313
Shut the fuck up. Eating meat can be ethically wrong, but not necessarily. However rare, the possibility exists that animals can be treated well before they become food.

>>719375422
Meat-eater here. I enjoy all of these qualities and more including not knowing what the fuck tofu tastes like. Man do I love meat.

MMMMM bacon.

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>>719375288
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SENSIBLE STANCE DETECTED

>>719372442

Grew up on a farm.

Killed my first pig in diapers.

Cleaned my first deer before I entered school.

Grew up around cattle raised for slaughter. It was a joke amongst us kids to ask if the steak that night was Bessy or Luna.

We had mad respect for our animals. They ate before we did. They were treated fairly and well. Because we knew they'd be off to the slaughter at some point... good life before you go down.

And of course that going down could be perceived as 'cruel'. But SOMETHING dies for you to survive. May it be a carrot, a pig, or bugs, or whatever... unlike plants which can create their own food from sunlight, we on the other hand live by consuming the flesh of other living beings. That is a GIVEN.

>>719375467
OP here

That's not acceptable....if you eat the meat then the holistic sense of self is void. It is your duty to starve than to eat of it's glorious host!

>>719372442
You're eating the food my food eats. You're cruel.

>>719375422
Bullshit. Regardless of other dietary choices, you eat broccoli and your shit stinks.

>>719375325
So how long does it take you grow formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, methanol, ethanol, phenol, and water, and also contain dyes in order to simulate a life-like skin-tone?
Because that's the embalming fluid that is used in most everyone after death.

Vegans are to stupid to understand that we eat meat because we are omnivores. Anyone seen that joke where vegans fed that lion an all vegan diet and it was super skinny? You can say we dont need it but our teeth are shape to eat meat so..... Enjoy being sensitive vegan pussies that will never be as strong as someone who eats meat

>>719375706
/yawn. None of thats in my meat eating diet

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yeah... this looks so appetizing... yummmy chemicals

>>719372442
>Worth living
>Literaly eating grass
That can explain libtard mentality

You niggers just arnt rich enough to eat quality meat so you make up some gay ass vegan excuse

>>719375422

>non-lethal shit smells

Dated vegans and vegetarians my whole life (despite growing up on a cow farm... opposites really do attract).

BULLSHIT vegan shit doesn't smell.

That shit is FOUL!

>>719375666
lol, ok satan. Thanks for confirming the lie. It's ok to eat meat everybody. Satan says it's bad.

>>719375422

The majority of vegans are obese, sweaty, pasty creatures as a result of replacing animal proteins and fats with immense quantities of simple carbs.

I've met plenty of cool vegetarians. Vegans? Noe one. Every last one has been an insufferable, PETA-type zealot. I doubt you will be the first exception.

>>719375763
That is still what is in you as you turn to goo as you rot.

>>719372442
I don't get it. You don't eat meat. But you eat things that simulate the taste of meat. You just don't want to admit that meat is delicious

>>719375697
Yeah and that's why we eat Kale you dip....our assences stink of sweet nectar and frosted tulips.

>>719375874
We all die at some point, what are you running from? Are you terrified of death? Seems so

>>719375706
>implying cremation isn't an option and a ever increasingly growing trend

>>719375202
Oh, of course. Life has whatever meaning you want to give to it, but it lacks no inherent meaning or purpose. And whatever meaning you attribute to your life is to say nothing of whether a bee has a fucking purpose.
A bee is made of atoms, and it is incidentally alive because of environmental factors. That is all.

The same is true for you, of course.

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>>719375900

i loved meat, but i decided it wasn't worth hurting animals for when nonviolent alternatives exist

>>719375847
You're welcome!

>>719375960
I was told life has no purpose, I made a purpose. Stop being a Hillary supporter

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>>719372442
every time you eat a plant you kill a living thing.

>>719375995
Yea thats called being a bitch

>>719375938
Kale makes your farts smell like fucking sewage.

Oh well. Shouldn't be so fucking delicious.

>>719375849

Meat eater here.

Dated numerous vegans and vegetarians (not sure why... coincidence? opposites attract? No idea... like srsly, I grew up on a cattle farm, yet dated them).

Not one of the vegans I dated supported PETA. I would never date a PETA supporter (fuck PETA, terrorist scumbags they are).

So there are exceptions.

>>719372442
so?

What would you call it if the only way that I could get off OR EAT was to:

>lure an unsuspecting animal into my den
>sometimes it's a cute little fox
>allow the animal to eat the peanut butter I've smeared all over my genitals
>cuddle the animal while it gives me oral pleasure
>And then, just as I start to cum, I jam a knife deep into it's throat,
>laugh and throw it's still wimpering corpse into a nearby fire
>Continue laughing as I ejaculate into the flames
>and finally, eat only the parts of the animal that don't have my jizz all over them. Wasting the rest to rot.

....what would you call that?

>>719376077
your farts come from fucking sewege

All you mother fuckers would be eating meat if our society didnt provide you with pesticide filled veggies and fruits. Thats whats fucking pathetic about vegans, they wouldnt die of starvation for their cause. Vegans are just lucky society gives them the opportunity to be bitches

>>719375942
I'm not. Just saying that we are no longer food for nature like we should be, because everyone else is afraid of letting go so they try to preserve the dead.

>>719375942
Depending on state/country law, you will likely still be embalmed prior to cremation unless your state allows you to opt out for some reason.

>>719375642
Please forgive me, sometimes my autism overpowers my ability to shitpost and I have to tell these retards how delusional they actually are.

>>719376023
Do you really not see how that is not an argument? You're not saying anything.

>>719376149
Pretty sure that's how you get a 4chan Gold Membership.

>>719375995
I agree, anon....with so many non=meat foods out there to simulate the meaty taste ( like soy, sesame, and pork) , there's really no need to eat meat!

>>719376224
That pretty much sums up everything lol. Vegans got nothing on this statement XD

>>719376224

if i had to hurt animals to survive i would. the point is we have the choice not to, so, you're right.

>>719372442
The government is monitoring your online activities. stay anonymous, use a vpn http://anonyourself.club

>>719376292
I was told life had no purpose I proved it does. Do you have nothing else to say? I guess i won

>>719375995
But those animals will die regardless.we are not the only animals that eat other animals

>>719376149
I'd say that's a pretty unethical way to get your dinner. You know it is, too. I just don't see why that matters.

Every piece of meat we eat, as a society, isn't a sexually abused, cum-drizzled, cave fox. You're being retarded.

Friendly reminder that humans are omnivores.

>>719376304
Wait... did... did you just say pork is used to simulate the taste of meat...? Are you some higher form of autist the world hasn't seen yet? Like a Legendary Autist?

>>719376304
no other protein tastes like hemoglobin.
its like saying there's frozen yogurt so there's no reason to eat ice cream.

>>719372908
For every animal you eat, I will ensure the death of a thousand men.

>>719376119
>opposites attract? No idea... like srsly, I grew up on a cattle farm

Hah! You are the leather-jacketed, motorcycle-riding bad boy to the goody-two-shoes, rebelling, Catholic schoolgirl.

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>>719376304
So what your saying fuckboi you only choose your diet because its avaible . You would eat meat if you had no choice. Your a real hero fuckboi

>>719376493
I know

It's not always a fox

>>719376615
TRIGGERED....!

>>719376279
>white
>nigger
Fixed that for you anon.

>>719376531
eating 3 animals is far more plausible than killing 1000 people

https://youtu.be/0QSBakYicc0

>>719376586

I giggled

>>719376427
You proved nothing. You are making a positive claim about life having an inherent value and you have yet to demonstrate that to be so.

You know what? Killing yourself may prove to me once and for all, that you have a valid point. Stream it for us.

>>719376615

exactly... we have the choice not to hurt animals. ask any vegan, they would most likely eat meat to survive. but we don't need to, so it's wrong

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>>719376304
That's something else......

>>719376623
It's also not always unethical.

>>719376753
If you think I proved nothing, then your life must be really dull and boring. I suggest maybe getting off the internet and volunteering or something.

>>719372804
eh, I like medium-rare

Anon, it's called the food chain

>>719376766
Well why not just eat powder supplements then? Leave the veggies alone? They always have living cells but since they dont cry its cool yea? Just some GMO fake veggies yea?

>>719376766
It's not so binary as that, though.

For instance, If I were to say we have the choice not to abort babies, therefore it's wrong, we would have a lengthy discussion about the moral implications of abortion.

It's not just about the decision we have in a position of power. There are a lot of factors that should contribute to how we view things in a moral landscape.

Meat-eaters are getting so triggered they look like feminists/SJW !

>>719372442
How did your parents react to you coming out as gay?

>>719376586
the best part of working in meatpacking was the free meat. slit a cow's throat in the morning, eat it's buddy in the evening.

>>719376785
Dammit, you're fun. I'm going to leave you alone. You win for now. Mostly cuz you made me laugh. I doubt you're going to make any new vegetarians today, but you certainly have a fan. I'll mess with you again another day. Promise

>>719376933
having living cells != capability to suffer

it's wrong to beat a dog, it's not wrong to smack a stick against a tree

>>719376531
In that case I'm going to eat one entire animal with each and every meal. Do insects count? I could eat 100 ants per day. Think of all the people I could kill just by eating.

>>719376149

Wat!?

I'd call that fucking weird.

Why the fuck are ejaculating all over good food like that and than not eating it? Jism is edible... you could eat that fucking food and not waste it you scum bag piece of shit.

God... vegans are assholes.

>>719377063
Plants are alive. There are studies that show they suffer they just dont have facial expressions or sounds.

>>719376823
I don't think you've proved nothing. You have proved nothing. You have plainly failed to demonstrate your point in any way other than nonsense. And again, attacking my character does not deflate my argument at all.

>>719377063
>it's not wrong to smack a stick against a tree
why? present your argument.

>>719376997
same thing with a hooker

>>719377065
Do iiiiiit

>>719372442
If you are vegan, you are a whiny little bitch.

>>719377033
/winky face emoji

>>719377202
you're confusing a response to stimulus with nociception, which is a common mistake for non-vegans. here's an easy way to think about it. pain exists so that an animal will remove itself from immediate danger. a plant can't remove itself from immediate danger. so why would it have evolved pain?

>>719373046
Seriously, what a faggot.

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>>719372442
I like how pretentious pricks like you consider eating meat 'an affront to nature,' when the only real ones here defying their nature are those who can't emotionally comprehend they've evolved to be omnivores, and in doing so, spit in the eye of mother nature as they force malnutrition upon themselves. Almost as if the only people upsetting the natural order of the world, and in doing so inflicting cruelty upon it, are those who chose to be vegan. Neat, huh?

>>719377244
You can repeat that all you want will never make it true. Try saying that to the thousands of people and animals I've helped. Like I said I suggest maybe getting off the internet and experiencing life. Im done replying to you. You have nothing to say anymore

>>719377312
who the fuck uses a fucking winky face emoji on 4chan

>>719377261
nah, hooker's too stringy and gamey.

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>>719376531
>I will ensure the death of a thousand men
this is the surest way to detect an interenet tough guy: a random faggot on an anonymous messageboard spouting random physical threats, not knowing that the relationship between how much of a beta cuck you are is in direct proportion to how edgy a threat you make.

>>719372442
I don't know why I'm bother to type this on /b/ of all places, where you are automatically dismissed if you try to be serious; this also sounds crazy when read over the internet; I have also used two semicolons so there is 0% chance of me being taken seriously

I had some major epiphanies about consciousness in December. It lead me to go full-on vegan since. I am not going to go into what I believe right now, but I will say I lost the taste for animal products very quickly.

There is no good reason to eat animal products when you really think about it.

>>719377063

well a stick is already dead... but even then it's weird to smack a dead dog against a tree too. So really the ethicality of it is subjective.

Which is kind of the point... a vegans line in the sand is purely subjective.

Plantlife does sense things. Plants will move towards sunlight and away from caustic stuff (within its reasonable ability to do so). It has the ability to sense this stuff... so therefore it has a plant version of 'feeling' things.

It's such an alien version of it to you though that you say "well, that's OK to consume... but the dog, because its perception of the world is more similar to me... it shouldn't have to die by my hands so that I can survive".

OK... make your choice. But that doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

>>719377338
Well if its just about pain how about we put the animal to sleep before killing it? There problem solved

>>719377245
take a step back and read this comment again. this is what happens when non-vegans try to argue. can't you see you're being ridiculous? if this is what your argument is reduced to, don't you need to think about it some more?

anyways, just for fun, trees aren't sentient

>>719377527
Vegans get back into a corner and say this

>>719377430
shit man im fucking dying over here

It has been proven that meat carries specific vitamins and nutrients that you absolutely cannot find elsewhere that is sufficient in maintaining an actually healthy lifestyle. Yes you can live on vegan but you are not provided with the same nutritional value as you are with meat.

Also OP: stop being a self-righteous faggot who feels the need to impose their will onto others. How I live my life should have literally no impact on you or anyone else for that matter. To think that you need to argue and bitch every non-like minded person in this thread just shows how narrow-minded and repulsive of a person you are. I love animals but they DO serve a purpose. The food chain exists for a reason and even dislodging a single entity from that chain can cause natural chaos. And we are at the top of the food chain for a reason.

Now stop hugging trees and acting like you give a shit about this world and maybe try to pay more attention to the people beheading each other. I think that we should be fighting a real cause rather than to act like eating the same basic food for millions of years is somehow now more barbaric now.

Grow up and open your eyes you fucked up liberal shit. There are real problems out there and whether or not I choose to eat meat sure as shit isn't one of them.

>>719377071
I don't want to eat my own jism, though...how about someone else's jism? Heck, I'll even consume it straight from the source so that not a single drop is lost. What would you call that?

(Yes, I'm setting myself up for the obvious gay joke...the question now is, who is going to take the easy bait? It's too easy for anyone to take it, but kind of a shame for no one to crack a joke about me being a faggot) what shall you do?

>>719377444
maybe he was being ironic

>>719377382
no one said "affront to nature". nature is cruel, there's no reason we need to be cruel though. your argument is that hurting animals is tradition? and we're being cruel to tradition? okaaay...

>>719372442
Eating high calorie and protein meat helped us survive through out our history. We now live in an age that we can "choose" our diets. Can you believe that? lmao. We have it so good we are finding moral bullshit on our diet. Let me see you in a famine like those niglets in africa with distended stomachs...you will pray for a peace of chicken or beef. You will eat what you need to survive like our ancestors did. In the sense, you vegans and peta homos should preach moderation instead of feeling righteous about complete bullshit. Given the right circumstances you would turn back into a meat eater in a second. It is in our DNA to survive.

>>719372442
if you're a vegan, you support massive deforestation and cause harm to plants, which also can feel/react to pain, bitch

>>719377450
:)

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>>719372442
Ill say this, I love animals when i can see and feel them. Petting a dog, or at any other interval where you might be with an animal, im happy to attend. But as soon as its out of sight, its also out of mind. at that point since i no longer have the opportunity to be with that animal. It can fulfill its other task, make a delicious snack. Kind of like the bacon im eating right now. So in conclusion i only care about animals if they belong to me or if im with them at the moment. fuck their rights, i am hungry so ill take god damn burger.

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>>719372442
Pichu level bait anon.

>>719377338
>physically moving is the only way to prevent pain
Can't tell if this is bait or you're actually retarded.

>>719377462
copy pasting my response

you're confusing a response to stimulus with nociception, which is a common mistake for non-vegans. here's an easy way to think about it. pain exists so that an animal will remove itself from immediate danger. a plant can't remove itself from immediate danger. so why would it have evolved pain?

>>719377839
Just another idiot vegan

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explain you fucking vegans

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>>719374596
When is the last time you've eaten a bee?

>>719377869
But your wrong, I wouldnt copy and paste somethign when your wrong Kukuk

>>719377875
I assumed so.

I am going to order 20 bacon wrapped filet mignons because of OP's thread.

well i like eating meat, so..

>>719374020
Do you even know how nature works? Everything happens for a reason and everything has a purpose

>>719377338
plants respond to stimulus, temperature, physical, chemical, just because the action is different than that an animal's nervous system doesn't mean the plant can't "feel" in its own way. plants do respond to stimuli.

>>719377910
id you read the dudes reply, he was replying to someone who said life has no purose and he countered it with bees have a purpose. With out bees everyone is fucked

>>719377450
I figure your epiphany in december was taking a cock in the ass right faggot?

>>719377910
Pretty sure he was talking about pollination and honey production.

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>>719372442
if were gonna be straight up, i don't think veg-whatevers make any sense. we need meat to function properly, the chemistry of it is way different from vegetable protein, and there are micronutrients you need. sure factory farms are fucked up, id prefer not to fund them if i could, but you can't just buy organic and hunt for everything. things cost money, and the factory shit is just affordable. maybe science will do something, but until then, i can't pay for fancy hippy crap all the time.

>>719375241
>is wasting his time on a 4chan board
>judging a kid for wasting his time on a 4 chan board

>>719372442
Suffering tastes good.

>>719377640
the only vitamin I don't get on my vegan diet is b12, which I buy at CVS for like $5 per month

> stop being a self-righteous faggot who feels the need to impose their will onto others

that's kinda exactly what I'm arguing against

> How I live my life should have literally no impact on you or anyone else for that matter.

well your way of living is hurting animals

> Now stop hugging trees and acting like you give a shit about this world and maybe try to pay more attention to the people beheading each other.

I can not eat animal products at the same time as paying attention to other events, it doesn't take much concentration

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>>719375781
I like how every "chemical" has such a distinct colour, looks like its a fruity piece of meat now.

>>719377971
The dudes an idiot who has depression and needs to get out of the house.

>>719378135
LOL So you need vitamins because its not in your food?? That just shows your diet isnt right XDDDDDDD

>>719377694
yes, i agree it was important to our evolution, but just as you say, we now can choose our diets, and i choose one that doesn't hurt animals

fun fact, veganism actually reduces world hunger. it takes a lot of resources to raise animals, resources that could more efficiently be used to grow crops for humans to eat directly. it's a concept called trophic levels