Ask a 33 year old kissless virgin anything.

>>718827184

im 25 senpai

i wont dissapoint you, bless me with your arcane magic

>>718827309
>i wont dissapoint you, bless me with your arcane magic

Feel blessed. Bitch.

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Should I masturbate?

>>718828044

Yes. Violently in fact.

bump fuckers.

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>>718828654
you get one

>>718828986

Have you made your decision whether or not to masturbate?

>>718827184
>>718827309

24, dunno how long ill hold out or so I thought; My resolve is strong after Backpage got censored.

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Just turned 21

Curious, what's your excuse? I lost mine at the ripe ol age of 25 only because of anxiety and fear of rejection. Turns out I was just a fool for feeling that way for so long. Have been with more women than I can count since then and only regret I hadn't wasted so much of my youth being lonely.

>>718827184
lost mine at 29
i'm 30 now

>>718829828
>Curious, what's your excuse?

Lazy and the opposite of charming.

>>718829828

I hate myself and I'm pretty unhappy. No one wants some one like that

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I only lost mine because my cousin felt so bad for me he let me his girlfriend suck me off and fuck me.

I think that's really pathetic.

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>>718829241
I don't want to, but you did say

>>718827184
Why so pathetic?

>>718830274

Just being myself.

I'm currently 19 and a kissless virgin.

I'm trying to change all that before I turn 25. Don't know how. I'm short, ugly, resting bitch face. Also can come off as a creep. Lord help me.

Simply. How?

>>718827184
Why don't you take action to change that?

>>718830132
Your cousin is a good guy and his girl is a good slut. They don't want you to be a loser forever. Instead of beating yourself up prove you can get laid on your own and go talk to girls.

>>718827309
>>718829473
>>718831232
have you guys ever heard of cold approach pickup?

>>718831464

By not having sex? It's not that difficult. It's not that you get offers sex left and right.

>>718831595

Because I am lazy, undisciplined and bitter.

>>718832028
Thing is I honestly don't see how anyone can like me that way

Even platonically I don't have too many friends or most just forgot about me
>>718832032
Sounds like something that would only work if you're attractive

>>718832218
Looks don't matter all that much. Mostly about grooming, getting clothes that fit properly and just having tons and tons of interactions with woman without wanting anything in return. Do you honestly want to stay a virgin until you die? or are you ready to make a change?

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>>718832459
>Looks don't matter all that much
here's me, pic related

do you honestly think im capable of smashing pussy? cause i don't see it

Honestly at this point why not visit a prostitute. You don't want to try and socialize and meet new people, you don't work on your body to become more attractive and you don't even want to pay a few euros to fuck someone so you can get over that loser mentality. For fucks sake kill yourself

>>718833091
HAHAHHA

>>718832882
How old are you? You have achne, are you eating healthy and working out properly?

And yes, Yes it is very possible. You look average. Only people extremely attractive get free pussy. Just as only the extremely ugly dont get it even if they work on themselves. You just have to work on yourself, and work hard. You will get there. If you want i can recommand some videos that will get your started, it helped me a lot. I'm happier and have more sex now.

>>718833185
I have a problem
Here are solutions for your problem
I dont want solutions i want to go an nazi frog china board and cry

>>718833091
>you don't work on your body to become more attractive

OP here. This I do. And I try to socialize regularly.

>>718833298
>How old are you? You have achne, are you eating healthy and working out properly?
I'm 19. I don't healthy or work out, lol. Lots of junk food but that's hard to give up, since it's most of the shit I eat. I'm at a normal weight though.
>If you want i can recommand some videos that will get your started
Sure thing, I'll take anything

are you me?

>>718833585
Listen man im obviously not the most attractive guy but i even managed to fuck a couple women so honestly its not impossible

>>718832032
Yes, I don't like cold approaching. I have a hard time escalating. I think im going to start complimenting more in order to make my intentions clear. I also have a moral dilemma and no place of my own so those are other issues.

>>718827184
lost mine at 15

>>718833594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn25Cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrhwatDkUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OVZ9xk1B-o&t

I would recommand on youtube:
rsdfreetour
rsdmax
rsdtyler
julienhimself

Work on yourself and become better. Read, workout, invest in your future.
Learn to delay instant gratification.
I do this, it works.
Good luck.

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Not how I lost mine, but I recommend going to a rave and doing ecstacy. When you come up you won't have a problem talking to complete strangers and girls. Carry the sensation and experience away with you when sober and you're off to the races. Used to hate talking to girls but blasting off on MDMA showed me there's nothing to fear

if i had sex at 19 but never since (24 now) do i have any hope of becoming a dark wizard? what do i need to do?

>>718833610

Yes.

>>718833696

No. But I simply lack the discipline to hit on women all the time. I've maybe hit on a hundred women in my life.

>>718833862
Friend of mine fucked a bitch he pulled on the street in the toilet of a museum. Don't make excuses. Work on yourself. You have to ask yourself the question "Is the pain of not taking acting bigger than the fear of rejection"

You can actually practice if you have trouble facing rejection. Watch this ted talk about rejection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vZXgApsPCQ

At the end of the day, nobody will care if you succeed but you. If you want to be good with woman go learn it, it's just like any other skill in life. People that seem naturally good have just been doing it for a long time.

>>718834150
>When you come up you won't have a problem talking to complete strangers and girls

I don't have a problem talking to strangers. I have a problem getting sympathy from strangers.

>>718827184
Why haven't you banged a prostitute?
I'm 20 and autistic and I lost my virginity to a fat crazy chick I met on omegle. If I can do it, anyone can

>>718827184
What kind of powers have you acquired?

>>718834557
How do you feel when you sense someone is asking for sympathy from you? What do you think about them?

>>718834150
Pretend, for a second, that you're talking to someone who doesn't have flawless social skills.

>>718827184
do you have original star wars figures in their factory packaging?

>>718827184
lost it at 17 and i went to prom

>>718827184
15, man do I miss that girl. We had a few awesome years, but we were too young. Oh well, I still sometimes jerk off to the wonderful memories.

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>>718834150
Not him and not a virgin but every time I take ecstasy I just end up talking shit to random guys in the smoking area for hours. I always say to myself I'll at least make out with a girl but I never do. Sometimes I'll flirt with one but they can tell I'm on drugs so nothing ever happens. I also hug my friends a LOT when I'm on it.

>>718834805
As if I or anybody else does. Once you're up, you'll find your own flaws charming in their own right. Flaws, mistimed jokes, shit lines, lapses in confidence - these all make a rounded personality, like the ones you see in every other person you meet but think you're less than. Stop comparing your B-Rolls to their Feature Films, see what I'm saying?

>>718834729

None.

>>718834784

I don't even understand the question.

>>718834850

No. Star Wars is boring shit.

Lost it at 22, now 26. Had plenty of opportunities to lose it earlier but didn't take them partly because I was afraid of STDs and getting a girl pregnant, but mostly because I was a dumb hopeless romantic and wanted to wait until I met the girl I loved. After 22 years I met her but she left me for some chad. Literally went out the next day and fucked the first girl I met just to lose it. Have since been with dozens of girls, wish I had experienced it sooner and not spent my teen years afraid of having fun. Then again I'm still clean and kid free so maybe I'm lucky I waited.

>>718835634
>Had plenty of opportunities to lose it earlier

Get out normie pleb

>>718829875
you had the world within reach yet you threw it all away for 30 seconds of complete and utter disappointment.

>>718835205

This posts (>>718834150) OP. Yeah definetly, same. Helps if you're at a scene where everyone else is high too - wouldn't bother with a sober girl because they aren't on your level.
Love talking shit to people anyway. My favorite game is guessing strangers' names. Look them over, first name that pops into my head, "'scuse me, are you called XX?". I get it right 3/5 times too I find.

>>718832882
You can pull off the Sylvester Stallone level of attractiveness where you're kinda ugly and handsome at the same time. Just workout m8 and you'll be good.

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>>718827184
>be me
>28 year old kissless virgin
>know a girl
>9.8/10 half japanese half colombian
>she is always flirty with me when we hang
>go to friends house for drinks
>she is there
>she has been drinking already
>play card games
>go to piss
>she is waiting when i come out
>"oh you need to pee?"
>"nope"
>puts me against the wall and starts making out
>first kiss ever
>guides me to the spare room
>pushes me on the bed
>she is on top of me while we make out
>put her on the bed and lay on the side of her while we make out
>she undoes her pants
>i start rubbing her wet pussy while we make out
>her head goes back while she is moaning
>suck on her neck while i keep rubbing her
>pretty sure she orgasmd
>we kiss a little longer then go back to the other people

do i still get my powers at 30? :/

>>718835915
Dude, I do that too. Last time I dropped, I saw some dude who looked like my friend James. So I called him James; lo and behold that was actually his name. Showed him his doppelganger on fb on my phone, we had a good laugh about it and he bought me a drink. Ended up hanging out with him all night. Fun times.

>>718835557
You heard m8. You're asking others for their sympathy. Well what do you feel when people who ask you for sympathy? Do you give them it or do you just feel awkward and implicated, and don't really want to talk to them at all?

>>718827184
do you understand why you are unable to get sex

>>718836319
I'm convinced people grow into their names. You can tell a Mike from a Hugo, or a Clare from an Stacey, you know?

>>718831232
find a hoe with issues

>>718836646
>Clare from an Stacey
a clare is a stacey tho

>>718836333

Oh that was a misunderstanding. I was trying to say that people don't find me sympathetic, a.k.a. don't like me.

>>718836540

Shitty person devoid of any charisma and personality.

>>718832882
yeah as long as your personality is good

>>718836750
this. it's what I did at his age. except I'm not ugly at all; I'm 6'5 and fit. twas just asperger's holding me back.
first girl i ever banged was covered in scars and called me "daddy" all the time

>>718836991

Lucky guy.

>>718837343
she had a fat ass too. I'll post a pic of her if you want but I don't have any nudes

>>718827184
30-year old kissless virgin here.

Did you go through phases as well? As in, a phase in which you really despaired about not being able to get anyone, a phase in which you just became detached and stopped caring, etc.?

Because that's how it went for me, and I'm curious if other older kissless virgins go through this as well.

>>718837443

Do it!

>>718837480
>Did you go through phases as well? As in, a phase in which you really despaired about not being able to get anyone, a phase in which you just became detached and stopped caring, etc.?

Those phases are changing from day to day.

Can I have some feedback

>20
>sex with one girl. Never came. Kissed someone at like 12, fucked someone at 17 because she cried when I said no
>ugly bitch but pussy feels alright I guess

I tried to fuck a fat bitch at 19
>shit personality
>pussy smelled like fish. Couldn't get hard
>nice to cuddle tho

Honestly guys. I'm torn between been too scared to try sex again because I might not be able to get it hard anymore, and completeln Giving up. I want to fuck but I got no game.
I also don't give a fuck most of the time and I want money. Gets lonely tho

>been thinking about getting an escort
>have the money, just scared

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>>718836800
Oh, my bad.

Then become a listener. It's a prized but lost social skill these days. Show you give even half a fuck about how someone is doing and let them put trust in you. Short questions and be genuine. Don't cut off their thoughts with your own anecdotes and how you relate to it - "oh yeah definitely me too because like this one time...". You'll be valuable to people, before long.

Can I recommend books? You sound like you sense of hope is shot, some perspective might help.

>>718832882
You're alright

I'm supposed to be attractive to both sexes. Girls like me, smile and flirt but I can't talk to people

>muh handsome
>muh autism
>a god at sex the few times I got it.
Fuck I wish I could get pussy. I'm not even beta, I just don't know how to talk to humans

>>718835528
>you just need to be more confident bro

>>718837590
Interesting. In my case, these phases are more of a longterm thing.

Another question: are you socially isolated? Because social isolation was the main reason why I made it to the big 3 0 without even so much as a nonplatonic kiss.

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>>718837590

>>718837988
>Don't cut off their thoughts with your own anecdotes and how you relate to it

I'm a listener anyway because I usually don't have anything to contribute.

>Can I recommend books? You sound like you sense of hope is shot, some perspective might help.

Please do.

>>718838304
>are you socially isolated?

Yes.

>>718838418

Again: you are lucky dude.

>>718835528
>As if I or anybody else does
Do you also go to a dyslexic and tell him that no one knows how to read?

>>718837893
Sympathise. I need a very certain set of circumstances to get hard and the worst bit is I don't know what they are still. Had a few on night stands where it hasnt' felt right, and when they go for my trousers and find me limp it kills the mood, espcially as I don't want to apologise for it. Booze, how good looking they are, power balance, if I know them already, all come into play. But the thing that throws me off the most is the taste of their mouth and the smell of pussy.

Then I think the answer is, next time there's a girl who's DTF, I hit the brakes, tell them we shouldn't dive in the deep end, meet a few more times. Which could:
>throw them off by itself
>make them think we have "something special", which we don't
>make them think I don't like them
>make things worse, because now I've got to seduce them all over again, in different circumstances, probably sober, with a "we're having sex at the end of this" clause hanging over it all

Part of me thinks I'm just an overthinker

>>718838680
I only wish she wasn't so crazy because the relationship ended pretty badly. I wish I had a pic of her ass to share with you because it was glorious. Although at least you can see in that one she also had nice tits

>>718838854
I met her a couple times. I don't really have the chances there to get information from so I don't know the triggers

Tbh it might be the smell.
It was literally fish, dude

>>718838680
Do you have any experiences with trying to break out of social isolation?

I was pretty determined to do that in 2014 and 2015. Even had a modicum of success, too (about three friends with whom I had regular contact; I even did a holiday trip all on my own) - but then I overextended myself. I actually ended up with a burnout, and now I'm slipping back into social isolation again.

I'm mainly asking because I don't know anyone (online or otherwise) who can relate to that sort of thing.

>>718838854
>I need a very certain set of circumstances to get hard
thing that throws me off the most is the taste of their mouth and the smell of pussy

you're gay m8

>>718838854
>Part of me thinks I'm just an overthinker
this is your main problem. especially if you're young (<25). the best thing you can do is not take this shit so seriously at your age. playing it cool is always a good choice. and so what if things don't work out with one girl? forget about her and move on to the next one.

I will say this though; I have the same thing where I find it difficult to get it up if I'm drunk or she smells bad down there. when I was a teenager I just stole my dad's viagra for situations like that. if you're this obsessed with getting laid, scoring some (legit) viagra/cialis might me a good investment.

>>718838754
Social anxieties and people skills are like muscles that need exercising. Dyslexia is a classed as a disability. You can "overcome" both I guess, but reading won't ever ever get any easier.
Not that I know. I don't know any dyslexic people.

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>>718827184
>Ask a 33 year old kissless virgin anything

I know I'm in no position to condescend but as a 22 year old virgin who has gotten a hand job and done a couple of other things I definitely wouldn't be able to live with myself if I hadn't at least kissed someone.

>>718839424
>Do you have any experiences with trying to break out of social isolation?

I actually don't.

>>718839576
my sister is dyslexic but has won prizes for poetry. hell, Jamie Oliver is dyslexic, was in the "special needs" class in school and now he's #1 nonfiction author in the UK. it's definitely something you can work on. but I agree that comparing a lack of social skills to a learning disability is disingenuous

>>718827184
What you waiting for?

>>718839863

The sweet embrace of death.

literally all my friends were having sex throughout high school, I've had sex like five times and im 21.I thought my sex life was pitiful but then i saw this thread full of the most pitiful virgin creatures I've ever heard of.

My point being; Im just glad I'm not you guys.

>>718839915
Meh death is over rated and so is sex but having sex does feel good. less so with a whore but no rubber and a nice bust inside of someone you trust feels good man.

>>718840121

Thanks for info.

>>718838437
Serious, count listening as a quality.

Try
>The Tao of Pooh
Intro guide to chilling the fuck out and finding a sense of peace
>The Shipping News, E Annie Proulx
A fat man with no people skills learns to like himself by being himself. Changed my life.
>Tao Te Ching
Chinese poems or some shit, but there is a lot in there about mastering others by first mastering yourself. Stuff like "You can climb up or down the ladder but you will always be unsteady. Only when you come off the ladder and put both feet on the floor will you be on steady ground." Good stuff.

I actually can't remember the other ones I wanted to mention, but give them a go if you want. Self help books are qritten by quacks, onlne articles are written by women trying to feminate men.

Ive fucked a fair share of girls.

Dont know why though, but I stopped giving a fuck about chicks and their hard to get game at the age of 16, I'm 21 now.

Literally haven't had sex since late sixteen, and I couldn't care less for bitches.
It's an amazing feeling once you are over a year in.

>>718840607

Thanks, will take a look at those books.

>>718827184
fav manga?

>>718840754

Never read one.

>>718839837
Shit, shows me. Well done to your sister mate.

>>718839657
I won't blame you for not trying.

At least for me, trying to get out of social isolation took so much effort (and semi-frequent failures and embarassments) that I'm actually very sure wheter I should recommend it to other people in our situation.

That said; I did manage to fix some old insecurities thanks to those attempts.

>>718840610
I could probably deal with not having sex with girls for over a few years the way i have, girls are honestly not worth talking to, if i weren't so horny all the time.

Girls are only good for their tits ass and pussy

>>718840896

What did you do?

>>718840904
I somewhat agree.

Maybe some day if a girl with an actualy personality pops up, I might just swing with it.

Way too many "I'm 19 but I'm so mature I want a guy almost twice my age unless he chases me for months" and super SJW PC cunts.

>>718840607
Holy shit you're a god damn special ed teacher aren't you?

I lost mine when I was 15 to my high school sweetheart.... in the bed of a truck parked in front of my friends parents house.. drunk on wine. I still don't remember it like it was yesterday!

>>718839574
Spot on sir. No, sex or lack there-of doesn't bother me much these days. Other couples acting flirty nearby is a bother, especially if I know them, or if I can tell they've fucked recently/will be fucking by end of day.

I had a year long dry spell after a bad break up with the girl who took my V. That was a bad year, very wound up. Everntually, on the night before I was due to leave town for good, I went to said ex's to say hello. We banged, had the best orgasm of my life, and haven't felt a serious need since. Been six months since then. Had a 4/10 in my bed for New Year's but couldn't get hard, didn't really like and too drunk anyway. Feels good, don't even feel the need to fap every single day anymore.

>>718840121
>a nice bust inside of someone you trust
yeah you're right that's a great feel.
Someone you trust.
Wish I could bang more people I know just on friendly terms without it being too weird forever after.

How many spells do you know?

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I don't understand how some dudes will fuck dozens of chicks shortly after a break up to try to get over it quicker

I can't even get 1 chick to fuck me!

>>718841928
thats the best time to get tang. theres something about being fresh out of a relationship that women just flock to.

>>718841892

None.

>>718841413
can't tell if compliment
nah i just want more people to move past their neuroses and know the stuff they get wound up about often isn't worth the time and energy

>>718840752
Also
>Games People Play
Baby's first psychology book about why people do the things they do. Explains the groundwork for why people do stupid stuff, and how you can live a genuine bullshit-free lifestyle.
As a reading list, start with Tao of Pooh, then Games People Play.

Think you'll be alright dude. Lost my virginity in at 20 when I thought I was beyond saving.

>>718842518
>Think you'll be alright dude. Lost my virginity in at 20 when I thought I was beyond saving.

There is a big difference between being 20 and 33.

>>718842089
this is true. I recently broke up with my gf and all the girls in college keep asking me which one of them I like. it sounds childish because it is. but hey, I've got my pick of the crop now

>>718842518
Special ed teachers are what you get if you teach cancer to talk.

>>718833594
dude clean your diet up. It will go a LONG way in helping clear your acne

>>718843483

OP here. I agree with that.

>>718841115
>What did you do?
Ach, should've mentioned. I did the stuff mentioned in >>718839424

To give you a slightly more complete picture: I had reached a breaking point in 2014, and (among other things) I was feeling like shit over the fact that people half a decade younger than me were going out, going to bars and clubs having relationships, going on all kinds of holiday trips.

I wanted to know what those things were like. All those years I had told myself that I never actually wanted those things, and that I couldn't do them anyway. And then I realized that that only made me feel helpless and emasculated. So I decided to make some changes in my life. "Why am I not doing these things? Fuck it, I'm gonna do it"

And like I said in >>718839424 , I actually a bit of success. No success at all when it comes to anything romantic, of course. But the whole thing did make me realize that loneliness was in fact the main reason why I was feeling like shit all the time. So establishing some social contacts did do wonders for me.

...still, there were plenty of negative experiences in the whole ordeal. I mean, there's the occasional fuckup. That's no big deal - that sort of thing happens to normies and everyone else, too.

No, the really painful things were noticing that I tended to be the odd one out. In a bad way. Because when you live in near-complete social isolation from your mid-teens onward, you're bound to come across as weird and maladjusted in some way no matter *how* much you try to prevent this.

Beyond a certain level, my new 'friends' can't actually relate to me. And I've noticed that this is driving a wedge in the contact between me and them. And the old 'friends' I've tried to reconnect with? The ones I've sorta kinda known since my mid-teens? We've grown apart. They're no longer the people they used to be. And for that matter, I'm no longer the person they used to know, either. That's another 'friendship' waiting for its last gasp.

>>718843621

But how did you establish social contacts. I go to bars regularly, try to do some courses and travel when the money is there. That doesn't translate into social contacts.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MEET PEOPLE

PEOPLE FROM SCHOOL AND WORK ARE ANTISOCIAL

>>718843961
I was lucky. That's it.

Well, that, and I made an effort at 'getting to know' people back then. As in, I actually made notes about the people I had come across. Hell, I even made notes on the conversations had, even if it was just smalltalk (then again; smalltalk is actually really hard).

I analyzed them, and in the cases where I thought that contact with them might have some potential, I even drew up little strategies for 'managing' my contact with them. A few times, I went so far as to plan conversations beforehand and rehearse conversation subjects.

Propably not the most conventional way to build a social life. It worked for me, though.

>>718834390
wow that chink said a lot of really awesome shit

>>718827184
Do you know if Smashing Pumpkins ever actually smashed pumpkins on stage?

How the actual fuck does this happen?!? Seriously I've fucked over 30 bitches not even trying!! I can't even remember how many I've made out with etc. Just the other day I ran into to this bitch that knew me and I couldn't remember her for shit......30 minutes later I remember she sucked my dick behind Applebee's last year. She didn't swallow so fuck her....


I mean really.....how can you be so fucking autistic to be a virgin much less kissless!?

>>718846049
>I mean really.....how can you be so fucking autistic to be a virgin much less kissless!?

Well, most people do have to try. And I fucked up all my attempts.

>>718846049
not all of us are 6'3", white, with good face structure to get our dicks sucked behind applebees

>>718827184

dont fret bro, i was a kissless virgin until i was 22.

the transformation i did in 1-2 years in my personality should imo be published in a study or some shit like that.

zero confidence in myself, pretty much as low as it can get, dident feel like a human at all.

when i hit 20 i got kicked out of my parents house.
a little background. i live in Norway. my mom is from morocco, and my dad from azerbaijan. Born in norway though. The reason i got kicked out was because i refused to continue going to the mosque, used to go there from i was 3 years old until 20, always getting punished for not being able to read well enough, i think this is the biggest reason i lacked selfesteem, my father would always humiliate me in front of all of the people of the mosque since he was the teacher there.

he would make me stay in the pose he called the chicken the middle of the mosque with everybody watching i had to stand on my toes with my knees bent as low as possible, then put my head in between my knees and then put my arms in between my knees and place my palms on my ears.

this went on til i was about 13 years old, then after that he stopped using that punishment because he felt like it embarssed him. so now every single time after mosque he would wait til we got home, and use the belt to hit me with it on the inside of my feet. and it damn hurt, i would always have pain from walking for 2 days after.

lets not even get started on the verbal abuse, would never have thought that a muslim man could use such vile language, it wasent just curse words, it was like he was trying to cut me with a knife, always shouting about how big of a failure i was saying stuff like "you turned out wrong because of the mothers milk you drank" and stuff like how im a dog. using the dog word in arabic is pretty much one of the worst insult arab speaking people use.

around 14-15 i kinda lost most feelings, kinda like a catatonic state.

yeah he hated my mom too lol.

>>718846332
>>718846332
Lower your standards to an attainable level. I can't fuck a 10 but a 6 will put out for me all day.

>>718847121

How do I know my standard?

>>718847121
Hell, a 6 would be amazing to me

I'm like a 3-4 PHYSICALLY, plus my shitty ass personality, so that's never gonna happen

>>718847256
Change the personality. Goes farther than you might think.

>>718846511

yeah my english sucks.

so when i turned 14-15 all the beating and verbal abuse just got filtered out.
i forgot to mention that i was deathly scared of my father all my life, i have never said a curse word to him my entire life, or tried to stop him from beating me. he would always just tell me to come closer so he could beat me, and i would go to him like a sheep, and wait.

but now i dident even care, my pain tolerance was off the roofs, i would always get swelling after the beatings, but it really dident bother me, i would just avert my gaze because he dident like to be looked in the eyes, kinda like an alpha wolf. so i would just listen and nod my head. waiting for him to be finished to i could go to my room and play games.

i kept going to mosque but he never did annyhing to be there annymore, guess he wanted to hide how he treats me from the other mosque goes.

then i truned 20 and had enough, i was pretty much an atheist from the age of 12, but ofc i would never tell that, still havent told anny family members.
so when we went to mosque and he told me to read for him, i just told him i dont want to read for him annymore, made up some bullshit excuse about how reading the quran should be something personal between me and god, and that his way of teaching dident help me.

he asked me one more time to read, could tell his blood was boiling and i just said, sorry, i wont annymore. and he gave me a nice right hook in front of everybody, the kind where your entire body just follows the punch, and i just popped right back up, and he did it again, i did the same and went back up. i could tell he was going insane because he probably felt like i was challenging him by not telling him to stop or crying or annything, just looked at him and let him continue until he dident know what to do lol.

told me to get out, so i got out, wandered the streets until i came back at night, and chaos pretty much erupted, he charged at me with a knife

>>718827184
27 yo virgin here.

Are the wizarding skills worth the wait?

>>718847790
This is just fucking crazy man

OP here.
It's because I'm a pedo.

>>718848499
so am i but i still like adults so it doesn't matter

being an exclusive pedophile must fucking suck dude

>>718827184
Can you throw fireballs yet?

>>718830073
At least you recognize that that is the issue. I've come to realize that I have been pretty negative and it has had an effect on my friendships and my relationship with my girlfriend. I started faking being happy and now i'm genuinely in a good place with her and my friends and coworkers alike. When you act positive, positive things in your life will follow.

>>718847790

and i had to run to my room and hold off against him, i was pretty much stronger then him at that moment, sure the adrenalin helped, but he was not able to push harder then me, so i was able to keep the door locked until my mom calmed him down. then he just shouted at me to get out, so i packed a bag of clothes and took the essentials with me, like passport and id and so on.

the first night i had to sleep outside because i dident know annyone, the day after i went to la place where you get shelter, and was placed in a motel where all the drugusers lived, could hear people always trying to open my door at night.

stayed there for about a week, and in a really weird way i got to know a guy about 2 years older then me, he was the definition of druggie, but he was kind to me and i just shared my story with him.

up until that point in my life i had never drank alchol or done drugs, i did try cigarettes a fjew times before but nothing more.

he convinced me to try hash, i puked ofc the first 2 times, but he was persistent and kept giving me all free hash.

never had i felt more at eaze in my life then when i started smoking. all the troubles in my life just dissapeared, and my new friend left the hotel, but he took me with him and we lived on the couch of other peoples houses for about 2 years, in that time i gained back all the confidence i had lost during my childhood, the druggie taught me how to not give a fuck about annything. yeah and we also lived with his gf during those 2 years, and she is the biggest reason i gained so much confidence with girls.

she was truly 10/10 model material, i was more like 5-6/10

but she still seemed to like me, which i actually dident believe myself.

we were drunk one night and she asked if we could take bong hits and pass the smoke to eachother using our mouths. that was the first time i kissed a girl, but i still dident understand she did it because she was attracted to me, in my head i convinced myself she was

>>718843483
Ro he could just wait it out. The great thing about being a guy is that at a certain age acne just goes away on its own

>>718837480
Soon to be 21. Not yet totally hopeless, but I go through such phases.

>>718849069

just a cool person who wanted to share cool tricks with me. we did that like 2-3 more times, the reason i wasent afraid of kissing my new friends gf was because they had a pretty weird relationship where he pretty much could fuck whatever girl he wanted and she was ok with that, but she told me she dident have sex with annyother person then him her entire life, and i truly do believe that, the way she trated him like she was always afraid he would leave her.

and she was 4 years younger then him, 18.

so i was sure she wasent interested in me, but she kept sending out all these signals, like we would often be alone at the house just listening to music and sing along together, which is one of my fondest memories in life, and she would always be so playfull, but at the same time intense while looking at me. always telling me to feel her thigh and how soft they were and whenever i was watching tv with a blanket over me she would always come and share the blanket with me, and during the night she would just get closer and closer the more tired we got, until she was sleeping on me on a sitting position with her head on my shoulder/neck.

i still dident believe she wanted to make a move on me, i was super dense, and she was the first woman giving me attention. i remember trying to stay at the position for hours after she slept not moving because i dident want to wake her, because then maybe she would move her head away or go to bed, but she dident.

so we were often sleeping staying at some druggies house for about 2-3 months at a time before moving to the next guy, but we always kept together, me, my new friend and his gf no matter where we went.
yeah we were all unemployed during those 2 years just doing drugs, but i really needed that, my perspective on life changed so much to the better, i was always happy.

so the new place we moved too had like a madrass in the middle of the bedroom, where about 3 of us would sleep at a time.

>>718830073
same here bud.

>>718836646
This is so true. My new boss Trisha... every stereotype that immediately pops into your mind when you hear the name Trisha, that's what Trisha is like.

She's an obnoxious cunt bitch and I'm probably going to quit because of her.

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>>718850287

and another normal bed in the bedroom, which my friend and his gf usually used.

but one night when we were all going to bed, there were 3 of us on the giant madrass, and my friend slept in the bedroom, but his gf chose to sleep with us on the bed that night which i found strange, she chose to sleep next to me, on the edge of the bed, most likely because she doesent know those other guys so well i thought to myself.

after falling asleep i suddenly woke up in the middle of the night, i had my back to her, and she was facing me, and i could feel movement coming from her side of the bed, i dident make a sound, and she probably still thought i was asleep, because all of the sudden i could feel her hand slowly moving towards my pants, i was using like super thing jogging pants, and all of the sudden her hands are on my crotch area, just resting on top of my junk, i pretty much froze and started thinking she must be half asleep thinking i am her bf or something, and the next moment she starts slowly fondling my balls, i panic inside myself, and after about 10 second, i can feel my boner, and i do the biggest mistake of my life, i slowly reach down with my hands, and take grab her by the wrists slowly, and removve her hand while still facing away from her, and place it behind my back again.

i have no idea why i did it, but i could hear a sigh coming from her, like a sad sigh. i was paralized, and dident have the courage to turn around or say annything, she dident make a sound either, but i couldent sleep and was awake laying still just with this giant regret.

she was pretty much a flower in a junkyard, and she must have thought i turned her down.

here she is.

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>>718834232
No you stupid fucking normie. That's not how it works REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>718846332
I'm 6'3, white, skinny, and have a nice face, and I still can't get laid because I'm autistic as shit. No amount of practice can make my brain process social cues quick enough to even fake being a cool guy.

>>718852325
you either got it or you don't, the theory is brilliant.

>>718836177
Get the fuck off this thread you normie scum

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What percent of men 18-30 years old do you think have problems with relationships or getting laid?

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>>718851945

after what happened, some weeks went by, and my friend had been doing alot of drugs, different like shrooms, and lcd and meth and coke, in like the span of 2 days, and he went psychotic, started chasing other known druggies in town, while dragging me with him, always having knifes and shit like that with him, it was at that time i started to realize that he was gonna gethimself or me killed, or locked up in jail.

he would be crazy like that for like a week everytime he went into psychosis, he was really trying to kill people, i remember him chasing after a guy with an axe in hi backyard, and having to be tackled by like 4 guys, he was craaaazy strong. and he started turning on everybody, even me even though we never had fought a single time our entire time together.
started talking about how i owed him money for the drugs he gave me for free, and he really did give it for free, he was acting like santaclaus with drugs when around me, always telling me that friends share no matter what and stuff like that, but now he turning paranoid and crazy.

i stayed with him until he was out of that state of mind, which was the most exhausting week of my life, always on guard. he did say he was sorry, but he did some crazy shit during that tim, and kept threatening to go after my mother, and telling people i was doing drugs, nobody knew i did drugs, because i was out of the radar during all of that time.

so i just cashed out almost all of the money i had saved, which was about 300usd, and gave it to him, and just made up some reason about my family wanting me back, and he believed it, then i left and never looked back, got back into a new motel, stopped doing drugs, and started school again. the goverment helped me with shelter by letting me live in a colecctive house, i passed the school year, and got a job right after.

i also found out from the friends of my old friend that the reason he snapped on me was because he was

>>718852325
Practice. I'm autistic as fuck too, and people like me.

>>718853375
Holy shit, write a book already

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>>718853375
was jelous because his gf was into me, and everybody could tell that, exept for me, because i would always fool myself into thinking that whatever she did with me wasent based on feelings she had for me. and i was really good at convnincing myself.

turns out she broke up with him the same week i left him, and went to live with her parents again.

i wanted to contact her again, but i knew how crazy her ex was, and was always thinking that i should just delay for a little while, and weeks passed without me contacting her, and then months, and then years.

the sad part is how in the last couple of weeks when we lived together under the same roof, we were often chatting on facebook, and she told me i was the only person in the world who she could relate too, and how it was eazy for her to open up to me. and she also wrote to me after she broke up with him, but i told her, "your ex is unstable and that we should stop talking with eachother for a while"
i never wanted to write that, but i was more scared about him showing up outside my mothers house. he would do stuff like that, go to the parents of the druggies, and start breaking theyr windows and threatening them

and my family dident even know i had tried drugs or annything else in my life.

the worst part is that i have never loved a human being more then her, she was the kindest person on earth, she would starve to death to make sure others could eat, she dident have a drop of annything mean in her, she was the most soft spoken girl i have met, really petite and fragile, about 155cm i think. and the body of a godess.

so i just said goodbye to that druggie life, and started on improving myself, i started dating girls in school, and really dident have anny more trouble with hooking up, kinda helped that none of the woman i hooked up with meant little to no shit for me, no matter who i meet, i only compare them to how my guardian angel is.(the ex gf of my friend)

>>718832882
yeah, i've seen uglier dudes with cute girls. it's all attitude. don't be boring and don't do the same pick up line as every other dude in the world. sometimes, girls are as nervous than you are when you approach them. what they think is "i hope he doesn't say the same shit as the last asshole." just come up as confident, keep it simple, it's not hard to pick up a girl. maybe you should go on youtube on how to win people over, so you can learn the basics of rapport. and please don't be overly nice, girls find that shit boring, be a little mysterious so they got a reason to chase.

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>>718855022

but in the end i waited too long to contact her, she also started school at another place, and got herself a boyfriend like 1,5 years after the break up.

the worst part is i never told her how i felt for her a single time, but i knew how she felt for me.

so now i feel like its karma, for me leaving her when she outright left her hearth in her sleeve and told me that she needed me in her life, and i turned her the cold shoulder.

i keep checking her facebook wall every month, and the boyfriends wall, and i just know deep down that she made a good choice, you can tell he is a good human being, alot like her.

he never does drugs, but he voluenteers alot, and is humble about it, the only way i know, is because of what other people write on his wall, like alot of his grandparents and grown ass adults always praising him for the good deeds he does.

i really am happy for her, for the longest time i was so worried about her comitting suicide or harming herself in some other way or falling back to drugs.

there is soooooo much more to write, but im tired. i forogot all the stories about her crazy ex often torturing her mentally, like going to her parents home, and setting things on fire, and always telling her stuff like he was gonna commit suicide if she dident do the stuff he wanted.

i always wondered how a person like her could be together with a person like him, and after prying a little it was pretty obvious, she also had a tough life, and started smoking weed at the age of 12, and when she turned 13, her ex came into her life, and that was before he was batshit crazy, he was still pretty much a badboy, but he knew how to act normal in a way. he was her first love, and she just wanted to be loved, and was so scared of losing that, so she kept up with all the crazy shit through the years, him fucking other girls and not even trying to hide it, while she had to stay loyal to him.
im just glad her life is better now.

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Lost my virginity a month before my 18th birthday back in 2014. Suck my fucking dick.

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>>718827184
33?
Not insulting you... how does that seriously happen?

>>718834150
THIS, just learn not to give a shit. either they're into you or not, nothing lost and possibly something gained, Lsd was my realization.

>>718856363

all in all those 2 years living with junkies is something i would never have traded away, the perspective i gained from it will always be valuable.

she gave me all the confidence i needed in life, if a person like her could fall in love with someone like me, then that meant maybe im not such a horrible person after all.

nobody would ever know i have done drugs by talking with me now.

they wouldent even know i had anxiety all my life, i have turned into the guy who can make long lasting friendships no matter where i go, or who i meet.

drugs are bad, if you are sucked into it, but never manage to escape, but when you do manage to escape, life suddenly has another meaning.

and i am done, i had to write all this down, first time in my life i shared my story with annyone. and it felt damn good to just get it out.

the reason i never told annyone about my fathers treatment is because i have a little brother now who is about 5 years old, and i dont want childprtective service involved, mother and father got divorced about a year ago, so he is in good hands now, she has full custody.

but my father would lie in court and blame her annyway, so i dont wanna put her through anny more shit, she is happy, and lil bro is happy too.

>>718827184
30 year old unkissed wizard clocking in,

>>718852325
Everyone is autistic find your muse.

>>718827184
After 20 years do you still save porn on a HDD or do you think you have enough at this point?

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>>718856975
what do you mean how?
how does one accidentally get their wee wee inside a vagina?!?!

getting sex is next to an impossible feat
excluding ignorant, reckless, or degenerate folks

>>718831232
27 now. first kiss at 19. lost virginity at 20. then had sex with 4 girls and then began a 6 year relationship

>>718835557

you probably have autism or something, not trying to be mean.

your goal isent to get "my life sucks, i have it tough" kind of sympathy, if you had a rough life, you gradually reveal detail about it slowly, but not in a "im so sad because of what happened to me" way.

more like, you used to get beat by you dad, and you kinda shrug it off like, yeah he was just a crazy old man, but i couldent care less about him now.

that makes girls start thinking about your life growing up, and that you probably had it rough, but your not whining about it, but she can tell that that some pieces of you are missing, and that you are wearing an armor on the outside, so now she wants to fix you.

girls just love trying to "fix" you, even though you tell them you are alright now, as long as they find out about your shitty life in a non pussy way.

finding someone just for a short slut fling isn't what i want in life. too many women use sex as a weapon and a tool to get status.

24 here, had dating experiences, but nothing sexual. i never had to do any asking in HS since the girls came to me, which meant im not an ugly fuck. i have 0 interest in dating and marriage, and 0 interest in sleeping around, do want kids, but not worth it to pursue that. im perfectly fine living my life as a monk, i dont see why people want to be in relationships so bad. all ive ever observed in every relationship is drama and nothing constructive. i only worry that my mental health will suffer in my 30s because of sexual depravity.

>>718827184
Why do you always come on here?
Are you expecting something different?

>>718827184
>24
>can't get hard if it's not rape
I don't wanna go to prison so it looks like my only legal options are viagra and a really good actor hooker

>>718860424
>can't get hard if it's not rape
why not?

>>718832882
Why do you have a chocolate chip stuck to your forehead?

>>718848161
30 almost 31-year old wizard here. Yes they're worth it.

>>718860521
Normal sex does nothing.
It has to involve me overpowering a woman who is resisting.
I think it's a complex or something because I am weak and unattractive.

>>718829828

you are me, i always felt like a 3/10 guy my entire life, but after i turned 20 i did some drugs, some shrooms for a cople of months and had an ego death.

i just gained maybe 100x confidence in the course of a fjew months.

i learned that personality really, really does matter, i mean maybe it doesent matter to the most shallow of people, but i dont wanna be around those annyway, and am actually glad when i see signs that a person is shallow, because i just cut them out of my life.

yeah personality matters, i realized that there is literally no woman that hasent had feelings for me, after getting to know me, and spending alot of time with me, and im not even joking.

entire friend circles of girls, have hit on ME first, im not lying when i say that i have never made the first move in my entire life on a girl.

i just treat them like i would anny other guy friend, i dont look at them like some mysical creature that possess power over us.

i mean, im not even fucking handsome at all, but damn my charisma levels have multiplied by 100 in a year.

guys who are bitter and say that girls only care about looks and money are just too blind to see the truth.

you lack charisma and an awesome personality.

i mean, damn, even girls who i dident find attractive when i first met them, suddenly look 10x more beautiful as you get to know them, and what they stand for.

it goes both ways, you need to excercise on how you communicate, i use alot of laughter and jokes, but not in a forced hahahah way. it has to sound and look natural.

e.g a friend of mine is telling a joke, it may not be funny, but i will be kind to him annyway, and give him a nice natural laughter, which in turn makes him happy, and he starts laughing, and all of the sudden we are all chuckling because i started a fake laugh, that doesent sound fake.

i know it all sounds pretentious, but it really is the truth.

give people laughter, and you seem warm and inviting, comforting. humans like that.

>>718861136
you disgust me

>>718861276

why, because i shit on your pity parade?

i was a loser like anny of you, zero friends, never hugged a girl before i turned 20.

social anxiety, and no self esteem.

i am sharing my experience with people who might get some usefull tips.

everything i say is true, if you want to be a people pleaser you do have to fake it til you make it.

or you can continue feeling sorry for yourself because your an outkast.

humans nature just works that way, we love mimicking eachother, and i use that human instinct to the fullest extent. if people believe your fake smiles and fake laughter, they will start smiling and laughing too.

>>718832882

haha bro, i swear to you, you look badass, and believe me, your face is not stopping you from getting laid.

i have a friend who reminds me so much about you its crazy, but you still look better then him, and yet he gets so manny beautifull girls do be in relationships with him.

its all about the image you project, the best tip in the world, is fake it til you make it.

if you are lacking confidence, just fake it. it will slowly build up, thats how i did it, and i am no more handsome then you, but i still managed to bag a 10/10

I always read these threads full of advice, they give me a boost of motivation and make me want to work on myself with hopes of some day being a normal person

Then I go to bed and the next morning I completely forget about it and start hating myself like everyday.

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WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT!

>>718861799
I have a different problem. I usually gain some sympathy from others since the first meeting. It's just that in the long run I don't know how to really keep a relation. Other thing is I can appear to be a cold person in some situations, I rarely talk about myself, so even my few friends don't know me that well.

>>718853079
Just generalized "problems?"
Probably 90%.
But virgins, I'd say that's 20% in the 18-25 age range, and it sharply decreases after that.

>>718861101

this is so freaking weird, how differently wired humans are.

it is the complete opposite for me, only way i can get hard, is if the girl really wants it, like begging for it, nothing makes me harder then hearing a girl sound frustrated during foreplay and demanding that you fill her up with your dick right now because she aches after it.

on the other hand, if i manage to bring a girl home, and i just sense the slightest bit of hesitation, or it looks like she isent really that into it it just turns into a wet noodle and i get dressed.

i think the reason im like that is because i need validation that im good at something. stupid family always putting me down saying im not good for annything.

guess what mom and dad! this bitch right here is drooling over me!!

so i guess im good at something atleast.

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>>718862721
Remember the things you do and the things you're interested are perfectly fine. Some people may not share your passions, but anyone worth hanging around will take an interest in it if you express interest.

It helps if you reciprocate. If someone is talking about something you don't give a damn about, take an interest in it at least when you're around the person. Remember things they tell you about it, pay attention, ask questions. Don't try to fake like you're super into it. Be honest that you don't know anything about it but be interested in what they have to tell you.

>>718862721

are you verry depressed?

like when you look at the mirror, do you look like a sad human?

looking at a mirror and practising at smiling, trying to be a little better at keeping your eyebrows raised a little higher then normal, which makes you seem a little less sad, and maybe even cheerfull or atleast not sad annymore.

the tone of your voice is also suuuuuper important, whenever you talk with people the first time you meet them, try to fake a little laughter, or atleast try and keep a really small smile while listening to conversations or talking yourself.

but pracitsing in front of the mirror really helps with facial expressions.

>>718862601

i truly believe its never too late, even if you are suuuuuuper ugly.

remember that clothes that fit help alot, a nice smell also help alot, keeping your hairstyle trimmed helps, and most imporantly is to just have some confidence in yourself, if you lack it, just fake it, and it will come for real after a while.

dont treat girls like something special out of a fairytale.

look at them as no different then your guy friends, keep a light tone, and remember everybody cares more about how others percieve them then the other way around.

>>718863098
Another story is that I'm very picky when it comes to everything, including ppl. Never thought that my perfectionism would become such a struggle. I don't let me make mistakes. When I do something wrong I think about it and cringe alot. When thinking rationally I know that the fuckup I did doesn't matter, but deep down, on an emotional level, I feel different.

19, this year

/b/ am I a loser?

>>718863565
Actually, in recent months I've thankfully recovered from depression. When it comes to smiling when talking with ppl, I always did that. I mean laughing a little even if the joke is bad.

>>718864119
You saw the way this thread started.
You answer that for yourself.
Also, when people say that women find confidence sexy, part of it has to do with being comfortable in your own skin, which means not giving a shit if you're a loser.

>>718864119

haha no. and you will have an epiphany when you first lose your virginity, even if it is at 19 or 40.

sex is just sex, after you have done it you will realize that you focused such a big part of your life for something that really isent as important as it is made out to be.

sure it can feel good, but plenty of stuff feel really good in life, and we dont place such a big focus on it.

>>718864392

really important to just be comfortable with your skin, the way you percieve yourself is not the way everybody else sees you.

i mean, i choose to do nothing all day long, im just slowly using up money i saved up from my previous job, and just enjoying life in my own way, which is staying at home and just taking it eazy watching tv-series, and playing pc games, but i still love myself and think i am awesome.

and that is because i know what my values are, i know where i stand on different issues, and truly stand by it.

if you like something or love something, even if other people dont, you shouldent give a crap, as long as you feel it is the right thing.

(OP) why do they avoid you?

it's all about game and maybe not having man tittes I was a fat tard but I talked my way to losing my virginity at 16 to a fat chick started going to gym and running and was pounding the pussy by 18 now am 22 and has been consistent ever since

>>718864392

also, i find it really helps to be a little cheeky with people, playfull banter goes a long way with most humans.

feks, the other day a girl friend of mine asked if i wanted to play a game on ps4 with her online.

she knows that my parents are muslim, but she also knows that i am an atheist, so i just said

"no!!"
then she said "why?"
i said "its haram to play games with other woman"
she called me a jerk
and i replied "im just trying to be a good muslim"

and thats it. she started to laugh, and then we started playing.

may have been a bad example, but i like playing on muslim stuff, especially since there arent alot of muslims in my area, and everybody is fair skinned.

makes it much eazier for people to be open with you when you are able to joke on your own expense. as long as you dont overdo it.

What's it like to more than a mortal man?

there is always hope, i have a friend who was a virgin until his mid 40s , joined a dating site, ended up getting married, never give up

>>718866227
if she started to rub on your dick would you betray your best friend ?

>>718839837
fucking hell our prime minister in Norway is dyslexic, but nobody cares, because it doesent define her at the least bit.

she often has spelling mistakes when she posts something on facebook, but nobody cares because we know what dyslexia is.

>>718865134
It doesn't always work like that. For example: I love music and I've been writing it since I was like 13. I have hours of material, but not a single song is ever completed. I always have this feeling that it can be improved and it's really frustrating when you feel that you can't make a significant progress in your passion. In that case, I don't care that much about what others think about it, I have a problem appreciating the work I've done myself.

>>718827184
Oh great one.

I wish to learn the true way.

I strive to gain powers beyong mortal and immortal imagination alike.

>Teach
>Me
>The
>Way.

>>718838077
This

>>718866531

no because i'm not the least bit attracted to her. but i would love to cuk him . he seems the type

Where do you meet people you can befriend to begin with ? Before even getting a pussy I probably should get friends, work out and grooming, but I have no fucking clue on how to do these, and I always wonder if stuff I find on the net is fake, or if it is good material.

>>718866944

this is kinda hard, its not eazy to turn tha kind of train of thoughts.

but the truth is you focus to much on the end goal, and not the process of reaching the endgoal.

even if you hvaent completed a single song, you are constantly improving, even if you may not be aware of it. try to make a concious effort to be happy for what you are alreddy capable of.

>>718833388
Have you been to adv/? Threads and threads of that.