Hey /b/ my father is about to kick me out of the house because im 21 dont have a job and im laying all day. What can i do? My country is in debt there are no jobs only labor shit 12-14 hours per day for 15 euros.
>>718706637 The thing is that you work for 12-14 hours and its at least 2 "test" days...then they find someone else...and then they doing the same thing again... so they dont make you papers and insurances...lets just say they are testing you for a week...simply mathematics 4people/one week = 1 month of not paying real money only cheap skates...thats how they doing it...im tired of this shit
>>718705698 You suck it up and get a labor job if thats all you can get. I work 12 hours a day when I get called in to the plant, you get used to it after a while. Quit being an entitled brat and get a fucking job, your dad is right to kick your worthless ass to the curb.
>>718707537 So rather than sacrifice your shitty life to help your family you'd rather come to /b/ and complain about not wanting to get a manual labor job? Go fuck yourself, you're acting like a self entitled, selfish little bitch.
>>718708216 >>718708496 Οκ guys...but im telling you i have done more than 3 jobs...as a waiter as a builder on wooden houses(for 3 summers) and in a tyre shop changing tyres and wheels ( for 4 months)
>>718709577 Yep...The best prime minister of all time.Since he won the election he has over 50M on his account and hes belongings are worth 200M...thes politicians destroyed our country!The pic i posted says the prices of 2002 and 2017....down left are the monthly pay and on the right todays payment...in one morning of 2008 we just got bankrupt from nowhere!!!
You are some kind of idiot. At least about the 15 Euro thing oyu have to look from a different angle. if everyone would wor for the lowest that is offered, companies would just start to offer lower and even lower wages. which will result in your wage to be cut. So why dont you go out and work for 50cents a day? Youll be better off than most chinese.
You/he shall do a job but not for a slaves payment. we live in the 21st century, idk what the average wage in greece for low incomes is. and even then nobody should work on free will for the lower wages.
people need money to spend, to run the economy. less income -> less to spend -> less jobs -> lower vages -> start at the beginning.
higher income -> more to spend -> more jobs -> higher vages that only applies to the lower third up to parts of the lower half. they are those who spend almost all their money and keep you employed in a better job with better payment.
>>718710350 Thank you man you understand economics...thats what i wanted to say 15 euros for a whole day is nothing!!!People who are saying go for 15 euros you dont have another chance are idiots although yes i should working but not for getting money to eat shit every day...there bills need to be paid my father is the only on working...i have tried bad everybody are making me offers like im some kind of hooker i ask for 25 and they say 15 thats it....
>>718710931 Im thinking of Cyprus they are greek speaking with a bit changed words...FUCK FRANCE AND GERMANY...GOING TO ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR 1000 EUROS -600 RENT AND 400 FOR FOOD ITS THE SAME THING STAYING AT MY HOME IN GREECE
>>718711299 The party was the last 30-40 years. You lived like normal people even though you didn't earn it. Your economy was, is and will be shit for the foreseeable future, yet you try to live like you are German. You are not. You are like Mexico.
φίλος, όλοι έχουν προβλήματα στην Ελλάδα. Το να δουλεψεις για λεφτά που δε σου αρκούν να πληρώσεις ούτε νοίκι δεν έχει νόημα. Συγκατοίκησε με κάποιον και βάλτε κάνα δεντράκι να βγαζετε χαρτζιλικι, και με μια τετράωρη δουλειά tτης πούτσας ο καθένας είστε cool. Καλη τύχη.
>>718711326 Ahaha that's because you're a retard who thinks france and germany = paris and berlin. Also 1k is probably starting salary (more like 1.2k imo), housing in shared household is like 200/mnth all this in any 150/200k hts cities. At least you would have a future. Your choice not to take that chance but don't come whining afterwards
people here don't realize how messed up the labor rights are in Greece. You have to work in jobs where you have responsibilities that should be divided between 2 or 3 people. Average monthly wage in Greece is 550-600e, whereas rent costs 250-300e, water,internet and electricity come to about 150e which leaves you with a whopping 150-200e for everything else you need in your life; like food and extra activities you happen to distract yourself with. Not to mention that any yearly income over 5000e (unliveable) is taxed pretty heavily.
>>718705698 Den iparxoun doulies leei... Ama itheles doulia tha epsaxnes kai tha evriskes alla kathese oli mera kai ton paizeis... Tha mporouses na diavazes ligo kiolas na pernages pouthena na evgazes ena ptixio... Meta katigoreite tous pakistanous kai tous alvanous oti sas pernoun tis doulies e tempelides
Become a criminal? Prostitute yourself? There are many things you can do. Join the army? How about you shag an old woman that has alzaimers and take her money? Go to sueden and say you are a Muslim?? I think,you should pass yourself as a refugee.
>>718705698 Like everyone has said, suck it up and work shitty long hours for shitty pay. Try and do the best job you can, and suck up to your boss. Maybe something better will come from it, or maybe not, but 15 euros a day is better than 0 euros a day, and nothing good can come from sitting on your ass whacking to 4chan 24/7.
>>718711299 The party was when a bus-driver in your shithole earned 3k after taxes and had 120days off a year you incredible retard. You are like fucking marocco. A whole nation of ppl without any skills at all. Still you think you deserve or are even entitled to live like ppl in germany, usa, japan or anywhere else ppl WORK for their money you subhuman. The turkish invasion really messed up your genepool. They must have raped every single whore in your country, because you feta-niggers have nothing in common with your supposed ancestors.
>>718708996 Fucking idiot. You have no clue what being a good worker and making any kind of money is about. You should be ashamed of yourself for being a lazy,ungrateful, selfish piece of shit. My dad would have kicked your dumbass out of the house years ago
youre only trying to influence him to take advantage of him.
again: Hes not the only one working for peanuts 15 a day will be about 450 euros in 30 days.
a million peoople for that money will mean a million people that cant afford the rent, a car and somewhat of a living and spending money. this will result in empty businesses, which will result in the fact that less employees will be necessary. which will result in lower vages which will result in you losing your income which starts the game right at the beginning.
in the end you will end up as poor as he is and as unnecessary as he is.
>>718709176 Yeah because you are a fucking greek retard. >my fucking country is broke beyond believe and other ppl pay my shit >i'm gonna work illegally to prove every greek is just as big of a pile of shit as the rich ppl who already abbandoned the ship
and when you really think that people have earned >3k/month for driving a bus and have 1/3 of the year off, than please explain how it was possible that you could get a cheap vaccation in greece at all time?
maybe because complete bullshit only imbeciles will fall for. let me guess, you are a far-right party voter?
it was never easy in austria to earn 3k after taxes. but somewhere, where the economy is at a lower level it was reality.
>>718714476 >poor greek ppl cant do anything but work in grocery stores How about they come up with something somebody somewhere on this planet wants and sell it to him, like everyone else. Their whole economy consists of tourism... Why would we care for these arrogant unskilled idiots in the first place? It's not like we did anything when economy in somalia collapsed and they realized they had no viable skills and their "work" is not even worth a dollar a day? Let's give their country to the muslims. They are just as useful to humanity as greece.
>>718711326 >400€ food >600€ rent what the fuck do you eat olive nigga? I can easily survive on 200€/month for food and my rent is like 350€ (+-200 gas/water/etc.)The shittiest fulltime job gets you like 1.2k a month.
FOOD for 200 a month? Are you from a 3rd world country. In Germoney you cant live on 200 for food. Probably if you eat cake and instantnoodles from the cheapo store all day. but REAL food is something very different.
>>718711858 friend, they all have problems in Greece. The work for that money you is not enough to pay rent nor is meaningless. Living together with someone and put a couple tree unplug pocket money, and with a four-hour work ttis dick everyone're cool. Good luck. >google translate
>>718715007 >thinking the 3k figure by the other poster is literal >cheap vaccation(sic) Prices for for vacations in Greece were always and still are higher than in comparable countries. You know shit and you are a disgrace to Austria. Greek economy has always been shit, they are/were not productive or competitive, they were always number one in reaping social benefits and evading taxes and now they get the paycheck. And we get it too, because of morons like you who pump money into shitholes like gyrosland.
>>718716631 >real food if it keeps you alive it's real food.
You guys think this is funny? Getting paid 600 and 300 is for rent and 150 for bills.These people are literally eating their own shit.We talking about families whos only the father only works alone with a wife and two kids.We are not talking just for a young man here.150 euros/per month for food on a 4 member family is nothing.You got heavy taxes.And lets just say your fridge brokes...with what are you gonna pay to fix it? With 14 hours a day of work you dont have even time to keep your house in shape.You just got time for a shower after work and for some sleep for the next day.
>>718717246 my new favorite dish: buy instant noodles, but make them as fried noodles, add cheap frozen vegetable dish. delicious. even with my not super cheap ingredients I'm at hardly over an Euro for a whole meal. If you're not picky about the noodles or vegetables you can easily eat for under an Euro.
>>718705698 Jesus Christ man, stop being a faggot. You have to have a shit job before you get a good job. Get your thumb out of your ass and work manual labour for 15 euros and work your way out of this shit.
>>718717680 You are an idiot...lets just say you are a father with a wife and kids...youre gonna eat always insta noodles? No real food just some junk shit? Because you live in a shithole with just one bed and public toilet this doesent mean everyone is gonna do the same.
OP, does your dad habe a backyard? If so, maybe you could grow vegetables there, and build a workshop and try to find some random shit on the streets, fix it/paint it and sell it for a small profit? At least then you'll be more productive?
>>718719813 If you wanna live like normal people then earn it. >>718719638 The problem starts in people's heads. How many people didn't pay taxes, how many people scammed social services, how many people supported corruption as long as they benefited from it. They all bitched about it, but everyone played along and voted governments who told them they could have it all, well payed, secure jobs, social security systems, etc. even though they never had either the economy nor the mindset (paying taxes, not ripping off the system, fighting corruption) for it. These people get what they deserve, but they're neither the first nor the last ones.
We're living over our means too, but so far we're good because at least we have a strong economy, people pay their (ridiculously high) taxes and the corruption isn't on all levels of government, but times can changes. Our social systems are ticking time bombs and nobody wants to reform them. We might never end up as bad as Greece, but still, we'll get our fair share of poverty. And we all earned it.
>>718721244 How is that his fault, he probably only had voting rights for a few years now?
Also, you're a stupid deluded fuck when you think he needs to earn his keep, it's easy sayin' that when you're not walking in his shoes. But do you have any idea hos fucking bad it is in greece with finding a stable job? I don't live there, but i've seen it a multiplude lf times on the news over the years.
>>718721244 Tbh corruption exists for those who work for the state .These ain't many tho ( around 600k).Greece was an experiment for Europe.We are doing everything the EU commands and still our economy is getting worse everyday.
PS says give us back our money or pay your depts is extremely stupid cus every penny the Greek government got from EU was managed by the IMF and the European central Bank
You fucking entitled greek literal faggots, try living in fucking Bulgaria and then complain. The middle wage is like 250 Euros, rent is pretty much the same, food, electricity and water also pretty much the same. You can ONLY ever find a good job in the big 5 major cities. In the small town even finding minimal wage jobs requires connections. More than 30% of the people live with under 350€ per family...
>>718705698 Beg your father for forgiveness and go work for a living. Nobody gives a shit what you earn, two countries east and you would be earning half of that so STFU, stop whining and do the only right thing you little cunt
>>718721853 how is whing going to fix that though? OH WAIT I WILL PRESS THE MAGIC "FIX EVERYTHING FOR YOUR SHIT COUNTRY" BUTTON THAT IS ON EVERY PRIVILEGED PERSONS KEYBOARD! why didnt i think of this earlier Just become a politician, lead a fascist government to victory and steal everything from your neighbours, thats what we did in western europe and look whos the fucked one now.
>>718713621 The problem is, if he's "laying all day," my guess is there is a lot of depression there, and telling someone to work these crazy hours is impossible for someone like that. I'm not sure how to help OP, that's just my two cents.
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