Would you date a transgender?

If it came to a point where they pull it off so well, in some rare circumstance, then maybe. When the clothes come off, however, ending it right there.

fuck no... bunch of fucked up assholes in denial

No, but since you're being semi-edgy I will tell you guys a secret I'm holding in.

I'm in a relationship with my first cousin, and have been for one year. Right now, she's currently 24 weeks pregnant with my baby and I'm moving her from Austria to America this year.

AMA and it's the truth.

>>718684606
where does it end? One day we will stop enabling this fucking idiots and evolve as a species. Hitler had it right.... just too blind to see it.

No... Because I'm not a fagot. Don't give a fuck about your god damn pro-nouns

>>718684606
Trans gen, not trans sex. I don't like mutilated genitals.

would fuck one, but would never date one. Imagine telling your friends and family that you're dating chick with a dick

No, because I'm not a faggot.

>inb4 gender != sex and muh social constructs

Positing a thing called "gender", which can't really be measured (we can only ask people how they "identify" and "present"), and claiming that this is totally orthogonal to sex is unfalsifiable.

Gender theory is a sociological theory, not a scientific one.

Dating a dude who got his dick cut off still makes you a raging (albeit closeted) faggot.

depends on the voice he/she has

Sure. But I am one, so it would be kinda hypocritical if I didn't right?

Only if it had a feminine penis.

>>718684606
>2017
>not dating a dick girl

>>718684606
Only a degenerate sodomite would date a fellow faggot.

>>718684852

this.

gender theory is the left's war on science.

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>>718684606
OP, if someone is that fucked up to think they were born with the wrong sex, then no... I mean think of the mental issues baggage alone.

Now, to get a BJ from one, or to fuck one in the ass, now we talking.

>>718684606
hey op this is for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aekiMlGQDLY

>>718684713
pics of cousin

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>>718684713
Don't try to hijack this thread like you hijacked your cousin's uterus, you degenerate inbreeding fuck.

>>718684713
cool story bro

>>718684606
corrected: Would you date a fag?

>>718684932
Obviously you have never dated a girl. Mental baggage? Fucked up.?

>>718684606
no i would not date someone who is mentally ill in the head, i would want them to repopulated either.

whats transgender ?
i could have a dickgirl lover but same like with cuntgirl depends on personality and other things

>>718684606
I have dated two trans girls, but then again I'm bi

>>718684852
Sociology isn't science?

Depends on how passable, mentally stable they are and whether or not I've seen pictures of them before I've seen them.

In they're one of the extremely rare cases where they are a well adjusted, responsible adult with a job, mentally sane, passable and hot as fuck sure.

Ideally I would not have seen them before hand, because I would only be able to see the pre-surgery version of them and it would be no bueno/

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>>718684967
I'd rather not post her because she has a lot of friends. But Here's a censored picture with me in it.

>>718684996
>degenerate
says who? the Catholic politics?

>>718684998
I love you too anon.

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I don't think I was born in the wrong body.

I recognize that I am a genetic male.

I take chemicals to make me sexy.

I only fuck soft and pretty things.

>Come at me

>>718685158
No, at least not in the sense of "the natural sciences". It's a human-science, which is often called a "social science".

The standard of evidence isn't the same.

I'd call you a faggot, except that you illustrate everything that is wrong with sociology: they use the ambiguity of the word "science" to pretend that their claims/findings are on the same level as biology, chemistry, cognitive neuroscience, etc.

Sociology is closer to political science than any of the above.

>>718685291

Fucking phone.

>>718684606
I did for a little while just to see if I was gay, you know what they say, you don't know if you don't try, well after about a month of dating and me porking his tight little boipuccy once, I can say, it's not really for me. And the head wasn't even as good as I'd been lead to believe it would be. Pussy is just so much more satisfying.

>>718685199
damn youll have retard child
>>718684606
no they are mentally retarded

>>718684606
Not sure why not since I wouldn't usually date anyone unless I felt comfortable enough to be their friend and hang with them as are.

I have a drinks date for the first time with a 19 yr old super passable asian transexual. Fucking nervous cause they don't want a NSA type relationship and most of me just wants to fulfil the fantasy of fucking one.

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>>718684677
This. Sure, if a mentally degenerate tranny could pull it off flawlessly, and was super feminine, of course I would try to get with "her." But as soon as "she" told me that "she" is trans, or, God help "her," didn't tell me about "her" penis and I found out on my own, then it's over. Faster than the speed of light.

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>>718685199
DANN GIB MIR DIE TITTEN DEINER COUSININ

>>718685158
Think about it this way. The claim is as follows:

1. I have a sex that is visible and measurable in an epistemically objective sense

2. I have a gender that is located "inside my brain", but cannot be measured by epistemically objective means. You must ask me what my gender is, and you MUST defer to my feelings about this.

Now, how can I -- as a scientist -- falsify this claim? If you say "I'm a woman trapped in a man's body", how can I possibly disprove this?

This is precisely why gender theory is pseudoscience, insofar as the natural sciences are confirmed.

>>718685391
Have any facts about that?

Also she took an ultrasound test last week and the baby is healthy with no problems thus far. Seriously, you can't spout anything about me having mentally retarded children. That's old Catholic politics or you're mixing brother and sister.

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>>718684852

>>718684606
I would but only if she looks super feminin

>>718684606
ya, if it was a girl who lives as a gay guy. but she would have to shave everything and never have an operation

>>718685342
>i'd call you a faggot, except that you illustrate everything that is wrong with sociology: they use the ambiguity of the word "science" to pretend that their claims/findings are on the same level as biology, chemistry, cognitive neuroscience, etc.
..

Yet all you have to reference is >>718685291
>I take chemicals to make me sexy.

No. I want to fuck actual vaginas, not butts or vaginas reconstructed from scrotums.

>>718685482
pic?

Nope.

They usually look terrible, and the sex change always looks terrible.

>>718685484

Granted, a good number of us are the very definition of unstable. But I've never mindfucked myself into thinking im a "real" girl. I also don't suffer from crushing depression, or when I do I don't bitch about it. I wanted to look differently than i did. Now I do. Pretty simple.

>>718685634
Exactly.

But of course, now the gender-theorists are trying to change this definition by suggesting that sex is physical and gender is ... well... something immaterial that has to do whether you *feel* like a man or a woman.

>>718684697
this, i'd fuck one though. have done but post-op, felt odd. also it was hiv+ so was a bit of a weird experience

>>718684865
>feminine
>penis

Go buy a gun. Put a single bullet into the magazine. Load magazine in the gun and cock it. Go sit in your bathtub and close the shower curtain. Put the muzzle of the gun in your mouth, close your eyes, and pull the trigger.

>>718685199
ewwwwwwww you look gross

>>718685663
What's your point?

This guy doesn't subscribe to gender theory... which is good, because gender theory is retarded.

He's not stupid, just a degenerate faggot. And again, this is better than being stupid AND a degenerate faggot.

>>718685809
fuckiiiiiing savage...kek

>>718685553
Post degree, I need to know if you're a real scientist anon. Also a time stamp with it too

>>718685053
Sounds like you date crap. Probably cause you are crap.

>>718684852
>>718685553

/thread

>>718685753
Then it sounds like you simply have an expensive fetish. Many of these trans people actually believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are something they are not. Look, I get homosexuality. Homosexuals simply are turned on by members of the same sex. But for somebody to legitimately feel that they were born in the wrong body seems to indicate a problem with the way their brain processes reality.

>>718685199
>says who? the catholic politics?
No, anyone with a decent knowledge of biology

>>718686101

>https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

You don't need to see a degree to reason through the argument. It's really and straightforward logic.

Gender theory is not falsifiable. Feel free to disprove this claim (by showing me how it could be falsified).

>>718684606
no

>>718686365
*really simple and straightforward logic

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Before.

>>718684606
A transgender what? I'm not dating anybody with a scratchy beard. I have my standards, after all.

>>718686215
>indicate a problem with the way their brain processes reality
Or it could indicate that society is putting some people in a category they don't belong.
Or it could indicate that self identity isn't genetic, and the culture they've adopted likens them more to the other sex
Or it could indicate a million other things

Just sayin'

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>>718686453

After.

Best decision.

>>718684606
no

>>718684606

no but i'd laugh as i watched them die

>>718686509
either, obviously, you notorious faggot.

>>718684606
sauce???

>>718686559
"Weeaboo to emo kid" does not count as transgenderism.

>>718684606

you do realize that within 20 years it will be considered a hate crime to break up with a person just because you find out they are a trannie?

i hope they all get hit in the head by an asteroid

>>718686559
oh shit are you that girl who got in a big fight with the walgreens cashier ?

i think i saw you

>>718685809
I bought gun but it doesn't have magazine. What do?

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>>718686559
>Tokyo Ghoul shirt
>"I'm gonna change my gender, but I'm going to retain my taste in shit anime."

>>718685158
No you idiot. You need some kind of actual evidence for something to be based in science. The whole gender studies thing is a blemish on the college campus that won't leave until it confuses grade school kids into wearing dress and pant suits.
Basically if you want someone to take a knife to you genitals then you have something very wrong with you and you need help.

And this is from a guy who's gonna go home and get fucked by his boyfriend. So the whole gay thing isn't my issue, it's other people tell you that you don't know who you are.

>>718686365
Anon, you don't get it, he could be a real scientist

>>718686514
Since 99.8% of all people don't have this problem, it's far more likely that there is some mental disfunction at place then some sort of societal disfunction at place.

>>718686743
> then you have something very wrong with you and you need help.

......yeah, that help is a professional surgeon. who cares if one male loses their dick, theres a billion more for you to get your shit pushed in with

>>718686514
>Or it could indicate that society is putting some people in a category they don't belong.


Let's unpack that.

The underlying claim is twofold:

1. the person has a sex (essentially determined by external, visible, primary and secondary sexual traits)

2. The person has an internal thing called "gender", which is orthogonal to sex. It's also inscrutable, meaning that it can't be measured from the outside. You have to ask them what their gender is and they have the final say in the matter.

My question to you is this: how can these claims be scientifically falsified?

>protip: they can't.
>gender theory is pseudoscience

>>718685788
>2edgy4me

>>718686663
>muh slippery slope

For something to be a hate crime, it first needs to be an actual crime.

>>718684606
Si

>>718686772
Yes, because there are no legitimate groups of people that represent a small fraction of a population, right?

>>718686763
I'm the same fag. I *am* a real scientist (Ph.D in cognitive neuroscience, awarded in November).

With respect, YOU don't get it: my credentials have no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

>>718684606
yeah, probably

>>718686215

Actually, I'm mostly the dominant one and only fuck girls.

I transitioned because I feel more comfortable being perceived and perceiving myself as feminine. I don't have to deal with girls rolling their eyes when I tell them I think they are beautiful or getting lumped in with all the faggot dudebros that just want pussy. I kept my dick though, because duh. Girls love it.

>>718686995
That's hot anon

>>718686899

exactly - the idea of hate crimes is absurd to begin with. if it's a crime to kill somebody, how is it MORE of a crime just because you hated them?

absurdity

hate crime laws are meant to push a social agenda and force people to accept the lies of the elite

fuck the elite

let 'em all die

>>718686893
wow. this is like being neil degrasse tyson, and trying to debate someone who thinks electricity is magical glitter water that travels through little pipes in the wall.

Like you're stupid you're wrong, but you're close enough to right that you can go through life without having to question yourself if you dont want to.

but the scientific community is laughing at your ignorance.

good day anon.

Never
I'd fuck one if it was the only way to save someone i love, myself, the earth, the environment or something like that

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>>718685753
Pretty degenerate

>>718686995
I'm not him, and I don't care, because I'm start enough to see that he's using deductive logic, not inductive logic.

>>718687118

"I have no rebuttal"

>>718684606
it's my dream

never been gay
have always dated 8/10 women or better
pretty much now i'm bored and i want to find a hot chick with a dick.

>>718687118

Feel free to present an actual counter-argument instead of just being mad.

>>718687050

i really, really, really, really hope that you get run over by a bus today. slowly. and before you get all "but why?" if your feelings mean you are a girl and that's legit then my feelings are that you are a speedbump and that's just as legit.

>>718685291
No, you take chemicals to give yourself penial and testiculer cancer. Hope you have fun with that at 35 when you start losing hair and start looking more and more like a guy because of your bone structure.
BTW you could always work out for that body you want.

Cute ass for the moment tho, too bad you want to mutalate yourself.

Fuck no, that shit is so fucking fucked. They should all be killed.

>>718687103
Actually, no.
We take motive into account when sentencing people for crimes because it really matters. Did you kill someone on accident? Because you were angry? Because you've been planning it for ages? These things change the charge. Hate crimes work the same way.

>>718686365

Just because something isn't falsifiable doesn't make it less scientific. I'm not sure what little box you created for yourself where you are allowed to think that modern science has all the tools nessicary to prove every sound theory it produces...But I want in.

>>718687200
>>718687209
I pity both of you. you'll never grow up until you stop seeing this as a debate to be dominated.

try taking an actual sociology course before you talk shit on sociology

>>718685158
Fields like psychology and sociology are generally not considered truly scientific as the mind of a person cannot be physically viewed, nor can someone objectively prove anything about another mind. If nobody can view an individual's mind except for the individual themselves, then the individual could simply lie about what is happening in his mind to skew the results of whatever their mind is being tested for.

Imagine if a biologist claimed that organic molecules acted in some specific way, but nobody else besides himself was capable of viewing the molecule's actions to verify this. He could say anything he wanted to say about how the molecule acts and all we could do was take him at his word.

A major aspect of what qualifies a hard science as such is based on the ability for other's to repeat your experiment and, if it's a valid idea, the other group would obtain the same results if the experiment was perfectly replicated. If this cannot be done, it is not an actual science but a pseudoscience.

No.

>>718684996
sauce on pic?

>>718687340

>I have no rebuttal

>>718687298

wrong

hate crimes exist because elitists are trying to force people to like people who they otherwise don't want to like

it's not illegal to hate niggers but it's more illegal to kill them if you hate them than if you don't hate them. why? because the fucking elite class doesn't want you hating them, not because hating them while killing them makes them any more dead than if you loved them lots while you killed them

hate crime laws = thought control, nothing less

fuck you, fuck the elitists who desire to control me, and fuck all of you who support trannies

fuck you all to hell

>>718684844
>chick
>with a dick
Choose one.

>>718687376
They are actually considered scientific. They use the scientific method. What makes them a soft science is that the results they produce can never become laws. There is always some shadow of doubt, that through science it is slowly being shaved away.

>>718684606
fuck no.

>>718687376
Oh sure, the No True Scienceman fallacy

>>718687486
Oh boy, I didn't realize you were this stupid. Sorry for replying, won't do it again.

>>718684606
no, i'm not gay

>>718687313

>Just because something isn't falsifiable doesn't make it less scientific.

Wow... just... wow...

Falsifiability of claims is pretty much a sine qua non condition for science. Karl Popper is a good introduction to the subject -- I think you need it.

(Of course you won't read shit, because you don't actually care about knowing anything)

>>718687582

notice how the elitists resorts to name calling when his argument is blown up

libtard much, asshole?

i hope you die today.

>>718685788
What's post op feel like to fuck? Always wondered but not really interested in actually doing it

No -- mostly because there's no way they're drama-free

>>718687620
>implying theoretic physics isn't science

>>718684606
yeah probably, depending on how well they passed and how obnoxious they were about it all. I'm bisexual though.

>>718687376
Careful with the term "psychology". When you say "psychology isn't scientific" you're also including the hard end of cog-psych, which most assuredly *is* scientific.

Basically you're (wrongly) including things like this in your statement: http://cavlab.net/?page_id=853

>>718684606
no i'm not gay

>>718687683
Theoretical physics make falsifiable claims. This is why their mathematical models are very often disproven (and subsequently modified)...

You're confusing "falsified" with "falsifiable".

Surely you're trolling at this point...

>>718684606
If I didn't have my gf, yes I would
have I dated tg in the past? Yes I have

>>718687657
Honestly a flashlight feels 10 times better than fucking a post op.

>>718687486

This pretty much covers it...thanks anon.

>>718684606
no

they arent real women and cant have babies

they have weird vaginas too

>>718687657
Fleshlight

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Im a /d/ickgirl and I have bf /b/ would approve of. I tell him I love him and he tells me I'm gay. I tell him that he means the world to me and he calls me a tranny. He spends pretty much all day making highpitched falsetto voices at me.

>>718687798
It makes both, just like psychology.
See >>718687721

>>718684713

You an Austrian fag? Wie gehts? Wo bist du jetzt leben?

>>718687879
C'est l'amour!

>>718687870
>718687721
fleshlights are shite

>>718687899

Oh, if your point is that certain people within theoretical physics (or psychology) aren't making falsifiable claims, then sure, but I would argue they aren't doing science. They're doing pseudoscience.

The field, as a whole (and according to its standards of evidence) most assuredly *are* sciences and most assuredly *do* require falsifiability.

You're confusing a lot of things there, anon.

>>718687899
related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Physics

>>718687899
BTW, the quote you're telling me to read is from me...

Transgenders are fundamentally unattractive because you know if you have a child with one you will be passing down the risk of serious mental illness genetics to your child. Or if you adopt one, you will have a transgender trying to fulfill a parental role it was not designed to fill. No matter how much a boy transgender thinks it's a girl, it will not be able to fulfill the role of a mother. Only a real female can do this.
And raising a baby with confusing standards of parents like this will cause issues preventing it from being raised properly as a baby and will create issues in that baby that may follow it for life.

And by the way. Every single time i've asked a transgender person why they think they're the other gender, they've listed nothing but personal qualities and thought patterns that their real gender was easily capable of doing.
Transgenders just trick themselves into thinking they're the other gender.

"I feel like i'm more emotionally sensitive than most guys, I think that means i'm a girl"
Or you're just an emotionally sensitive guy you fucking retard

>>718688025
Thanks for the tip captain obvious

>>718687256

I go to a pretty bad ass endocrinologist and he assures me that my risk for cancer is pretty low. He also has me on a drug called finesteride to make my body hair grow less and the hair on my head to grow more full. I do need to work out more though, I have a bit of a tummy. If I do end up looking more androgynous as I get older (which doesn't always happen), big deal. I've already made peace with the fact that I'm a bit of both worlds.

>>718684606
No.

Fuck? Sure, I'm bi and it could be fun.
Date? Fuck no, every trans I've met has been a fucking basket case so pass on that shit.