Any (ex)-alcoholics here? My life is dull, the only time I feel

>>718439913
Don't do it, the withdrawal isn't worth it.

>>718439913
RULE #1: There's no such thing as an ex-alcoholic. Once you're an alcohol, you're an alcohol for life, regardless of whether your last drink was an hour ago or a decade ago.

Live it up, smoke some weed to balance it out, maybe a little lsd too, and then when the withdrawals get too bad just kys easy happy life.

>>718440043
The driver was an alcohol.

I saw two people die from alcohol abuse last year.

They died like they lived, completely separated from reality and in a pool of their own vomit.

Not how I want to go out, but you may feel differently.

>>718440043
this

i still crave it man, sucks. only thinng that keeps me from doing it is work, and I work from home so its not such a deterrant.

just get a fucking job op, and hobby. do both constantly with friends

'also LSD and ectasy have evicence shwing they help with this. try to trip balls

I used to drink at least 10 drinks a day. At least two 30's a week.

When I quit drinking, I had to detox.

I can drink socially and binge drink, however, I get withdrawals and the shakes sometimes.

It just takes too much out of me, and as much as I enjoy drinking, I just don't enjoy it as much anymore. It takes too much out of me and makes me feel dull.

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ironically i became an alcoholic after my dad died from alcoholism
cut down real hard a couple months back completely clean, but been relapsing recently

i'd recommend getting addicted to something more fun if you just want to go down a rabbit hole

>>718440305
I'm there with you. A night of binge drinking isn't worth the anxiety and general shitty feeling I have to deal with the day after. Stick with weed.

>>718439913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTlI6seM0A
OP take a look at this to clear up the conditions of an full blown alcoholic, then reconsider your position

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>>718440824
Thanks lads. Appreciate it

>>718440824
Great documentary indeed
Also this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwv7Utcf-gM

>>718439913
My dad was an alcoholic. He died this March from liver failure. He 52. I was 16, now 17(mfw when mods ban me for age). It was pretty shit.

>>718441186
but you're 18 now right?

>>718441235
17

>>718441397
pls

>>718441441
pls????

hey op current alchoholic here don't do it theres nothing good that can come from it your life won't get better if you become an alchoholic it just gets worse. You'll have the same dull feeling even if you drink you will just have that bagage too feeding the habit.

OP stop drinking asap. i'm far gone. 2 years straight drunk as hell. i'm up to a liter of vodka a day. every day i wake up to a nasty puke of nothing but bile, shaking uncontrollably and cold sweats. don't do it man. just live a shitty existence without the booze.

>>718441619
Also the depression is almost as overwhelming as the psychical symptoms.

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>>718441619
thanks guys I guess this is what I needed to hear

hope you'll get better anons

55 yrold old fag here
pop was a succesful college prof doing cutting edge work in late 60's
Did a world recognized paper and never did another thing. rode his fame for one thing the rest of his life
knuckled down and studied his drinking after that
4 mariages - lots of kids - found out recently that he raped 3 of my sisters wwhile he was drunk
he disowned all of us around 2000 because "you were reason i drank"
I see him around town occasionally. He asks why no one comes to visit every time i see him
WTF?
I don't ragon him because it'd be like kicking a brain damaged puppy.
I know he grew up in an irissh ghetto in Philly. his mom was probably a prostitute and i suspect she molested him.
Drink your problems away does not work.
He's 78 and still feeling the pain.

true story

as oldest son i did my best to protect rest of my sibs. This news about my sisters makes me feel like I failed

>>718440305
Yea I'm at this spot now. Drink a lot, but trying to stop cause next day my body and brain are fucked. Too old. Im not physically addicted, never get any shakes or anything, but mentally, its hard not to want to get plastered with your gf or some friends after a tough day at work

>>718440093

Ruining his bamily

to switch from one bad habit to another is pointless.

that being said, check if your crave is for hearing;serving your own self of more from the same while you are numbed by the booze - sometimes great past times had while under it's effects are used as an excuse to try and revive them from recreating the similar internal conditions had in that while.

to want memorable experiences is neither good or bad - to want memories as experiences could be though - and in order to change this tendency keep in mind, constantly, that future will always be superior to past in possibility, and past will always be superior to future in imagery/scenery

a good present is to envision, as best and precise as you can, your future without remaining anchored to loopable events that, albeit happened, would only repeat themselves with your permission.

it is not culpable to rest from overwhelming situations - be them internal or external - as long as you don't harm your being in the process.

You are Loved.

>>718440043
Does that apply to weed too?

>>718439913
You're still an alcoholic if you're feeling like that.
I've been quit for almost 5 years now and don't ever want to touch it again. You need to look at it differently. Ask yourself why you shouldn't drink anymore. Think of what it actually is: poison. Remember hangovers. Find something healthy to replace it. Any of those things.

>>718439913
>Live a long dull life or a short good one?
When you become an alcoholic your life will just turn worse. You will even feel less joy when sober and getting wasted just helps forgetting the pain but won't make you happy either.

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>>718439913

There's a better way, and it begins with self control. After that it's a matter of establishing healthy routines; sleep, work, food, exercise and doing these at regular intervals. A disordered life brings a disordered mind, thus enhancing your desire for escape.

Try smoking weed.

>>718446730
this, also, getting drunk will suck worse and worse, and people will hate you. At least get on board with a decent, manageable drug, like weed or psychedelics.

>>718439913
So long as your drinking isn't adversely affecting your ability to maintain gainful employment, go for broke. Besides, we'll probably be producing livers en masse in a few years anyway.

>>718439913
Change your life, find something else to replace the old habit with. If you just quit with nothing to replace it with you'll just leave a hole that needs to be filled somehow, so you'll just relapse or replace it with another bad habit.

Figure out what you want from life, then do what's necessary to change it. Find new hobbies and interests. If you change nothing you'll just remain an alcoholic or will be struggling indefinitely.

>>718441497
he was sarcastic. Probably not the right bord for you.

>>718439913
>So my question is, should I? Or should I fight it?

>Should I numb the normality of life with an addicting substance that will worse my life? Or should I live on like every other person?

Stop being a special snowflake. If you want to ruin your life go on and kill yourself or don't even get started.

>>718442936
>55 yrold old fag here
>true story

Yeah, sure.

>>718449984
Son, you don't even know

>>718439913

I'm 26 and for the last 5 years I've had about 15 shots of vodka a day. Even when I'm sober, I'm simply not as smart as I used to be, and I don't think it's coming back. I don't really feel excited or happy about anything anymore, just generally like life is on mute.

I would drink to the point of black out/brown out every night, so I really don't have many memories from my early 20's. Friends bring up things we did together and half the time all I can say is "Don't remember that, guess I was drunk"

I've been sober for almost 2 months now. Longest gap by far since I started drinking, and legitimately feeling a little better.

Don't become an alcoholic.

Recovering drunk here. Once and alcoholic always an alcoholic. It's day at a time. I cherish the time I am sober because I know It can change in a instant. I've had two relapses. It's embarrassing to face your family and your friends in recovery and your sponsor. It's especially hard to accept that you are not in control. Good luck to you OP.

>>718439913
>short good one
it wont be good, but it will be short
the reason you don't "feel" when you're not drunk isn't because you're on the edge of becoming an alcoholic, it's because you are an alcoholic already

give up the drink, join a gym, and find a job that you enjoy (maybe go back to school for a trade) and you'll feel fine

all drinking will lead to is self loathing and a fucked liver

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ITT alcoholics anonymous fags. Rehab is for quitters.

Also I'm a borderline alcohlic. Daily drinker. Sometimes a beer or two sometimes a 5th. Just depends on the mood.

I should mention I sell beer for a living top so I always tons in my house.

>>718442936
that's a bad story man... :(

Op I was thinking of making a similar thread, i might try meth instead after reading the replies here

>>718439913
What is it about drinking that makes you feel alive?
do you do more fun things when you are drunk?
or does being drunk lower your standards to the point that boring things are fun?

There are simple solutions to either case.

>>718444543
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Weed dependency is an illusion compared to an alcohol addiction.

>>718452936
Very nice Anon! I've been stocking up drinking barrel aged beers this Winter.

>>718453021
Yeah
Being a hard core alcoholic is like committing suicide.
You don't realize how much it affects the people around you.
Especially your family and friends.

I tried Adult Children of Alcoholics programs 30 years ago. Went through my own drinking and drug faze. After all, I grew up during the 70's. lol

Finally, I figured it out on my own.
Did it while working with kids in Hood in the Woods programs. Living and role modeling for kids who had it as bad or worse than me taught me. Made me walk the walk.
Taoism helped alot.

I still have a twisted side from it all.
That's why I hang out on /b/

>>718440043
A cucumber becomes a pickle. A pickle can't go back to being a cucumber.

>>718441619
This was me. I escaped it. No more weeks upon weeks of hard drinking then going through sweats, shakes, withdrawals, depression, suicidal thoughts... Fuck alcohol. It wasted a huge chunk of my one an only life.

>>718452532

Keep coming back.

>>718453813
It's amazing to find so many different kind of folk here from different walks of life

hope you make up with your father man, time will not wait for you.. you might regret it when he's gone. he probably cries himself to sleep thinking about all the terrible shit he did and why none of his family talks to him....people change. not trying to preach to you man i'm sure you got your reasons

>>718439913
go to a fucking AA meetings dickwad

>>718439913
Find some LSD and take about 5-10mg every 3-4 days

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>>718453021

Didn't say I was unhappy. I'm married to a babe, have two awesome bulldogs, and a really a good life. I just love beer and bourbon haha

>>718439913
Go to the gym faggot

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nah man. I talk to him when i see him.
he disowned all the kids from his first 3 marriages.
He married a korean chick about the time he disowned all of us. She is a social climber who convinced him all his kids disrespected him. What really happened was we wwouldnt pretend this was Korea and wouldn't treat her like she was the new matriarch. (Koreans are psycho. Had a friend marry one and he lived in Seoul. Got into a fight one night and she jumpeD of their 28th story balcony.)

Anyway, he's old now. Forgets what happened. Still drinks despite his medical problem. I email him on Linkn. She monitors his regular email.

But this shit about him raping my sisters...

anyway. he is part of the reason why I have no respect for community leaders. Most of them lead double lives and I've seen to many kids who's parrents never paid for what they did in my line of work (social worker for 10 years before i quit)

>>718453803

I got like 6 more in my house and some barelywine too. I feel bad drinking it because once it's gone it's gone.

>>718455481
appreciate your story, and i understand, thats kinda an unspeakable thing to do

>>718456236
I can believe it.
In my experience those who were molested tend to become molesters. at least male incest victims. Combine that with obviously poor impulse control and you got a ticking time bomb.

wierd story. Last time he got divorced from his thrid wife I gave him a guest room to stay in. His drinking was out of control. Taking valium to control his DT's when he was sober. Anyway, one night as he was getting back in from drinking he walked in as I was going to bed. I gave him a hug goodnight and he slipped me some tongue. I shoved him back and pretended it didn't happen and he never reacted so I ignored the whole thing.

A couple weeks later I had to ask him to stop drinking or leave. He left many of his belongings but found every bottle he stashed in the house.

From my work experience I can understand why this stuff happens. people are remarkably predictable under certain stimulus.

Anyway, I obviously feel for those people who drink. They do it for a variety of reasons. Some will recover. Some won't. some will harm and kill along the way.

Y'all got to find your own way in the world.

Good luck to you /b/tards who want to quit drinking. Just don't be to smug in your own cleverness when people express concern. They do it because they care. It's when they quit caring enough to say anything that you're in deep shit.

he was more than likely molested himself, probably why he drinks. amazing he has lived too 78

>>718458001

that's what money does for you. Tenured college professor, good retirement, good insurance.

Money doesn't just get you priveledge. It get's you a long life, too.

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>>718439913
Alcoholic/drug addict faggot here. Have been attending AA meetings regularly for about 2.5 years now.
Have been clean for about a year

>Live a long dull life or a short good one?
Whatever you feel like, just take in mind a "good life" would have to be a conscious one, and that’s what alcohol and drugs take away eventually to people who can't handle reality as it is.

To be honest, my last years of drinking, getting high and partying were not worth the damage I made to my life.
Would recommend to get clean and take life as it comes, to live with plenitude and joy, the world is a huge place, there are countries to travel, places to go, people to meet, things to achieve, women to fuck.

It’s your life, make it worth for you and no one else.

>>718449984

oh, did you just discover most of 4chango is 40+?
Dawwwwwwww :'D

just came out of rehab detox myself, been nearly a month now, i managed to stay sober for christmas and new years..healthy eating and lots of exercise,, i feel good but fuck its boring,

but i live in britbong land so there is a lot of socialising done at the pub, i have been going and only drinking lemonade and shooting some pool etc

not really sure where i am going with this, just scared i am gonna relapse, dont think i would come back again if i did, my benders where starting to get weeks long and my best friend has a shocking cocaine habit so was dabbling in that aswell..

>>718460774
I honestly don't know how that whole island doesn't die of alcohol poisoning.

Stay strong, brother. Take up some sort of extreme sport. Do it for the adrenaline rush.

>>718461158
I heard that cold showers will boost body's overall adrenaline production as well. And not only for 5 minutes, but for hours. Might give it a shot

>>718461158
cheers playa..
its insane how socially acceptable it is to be shitfaced here, england is really going down the drain and everyone is in the pub waiting for it to blow over.. shame really

>>718461158
oh yea and i ride downhill mountain bike, wouldnt mind getting back into surfing but its to cold this time of year

>>718439913
i usually smoke weed during the week and drink on the weekends much better for your body then just drinking all the time

>>718439913
here? Only current alcoholics. Aside from me, whos never been an alcoholic

>>718461620
I used to White Water raft a lot.
Also Mountain biked quite a bit.
with the money you save from the pup you should be able to get a decent bike, although I guess VAT adds quite a bit to product costs?

>>718439913
Take up a dangerous sport like freeskiing, base jumping, downhill mountain biking etc... once you get decent and really start putting yourself in serious situations you'll feel more alive than ever.

> full blown alcoholic
> Liver enzymes were thru the roof with my last blood test.
> Haven't touched booze in 5 months thanks to kratom

Literally kratom saved my life

>>718439913
Eventually, drinking to 'feel truly alive' turns to 'drinking to be able to function'. It's not a nice place to be.

>>718439913
hello anon i changed drugs(RC) on alcohol. I think that as mistake/

>>718462428
>kratom

what is that like, i have been craving some kind of substitute since i came out of rehab? i loved the valium they gave me in there, but i heard benzo withdrawals are worse than drink so apprehensive about them

im this guy btw >>718460774

>>718452936
never get high on your own supply.

>>718462744
*WAS but now if i drink i feel only depresion

>>718461709
so where is the best downhilling on the islands?
Scotland?
I used to surf on the outer banks of north carolina. That was at the end of the 1980's
family has a house down there but I blew discs out in my back and avoid some activities like surfing these days. getting scrubbed across the sand after eating a ave is too rough on the back

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>>718464663
i live in a place called cornwall, about as far away from scotland as you can get haha, yea there is a lot of sweet trails around here, lots of abandoned mining valleys with endless runs

and it is a mecca for surfing aswell, i have all the stuff, just been at the bottom of a bottle for to long to get in the water, i tend to sit by the sea and dangle a fishing rod into it more these
days

pic is mining valleys

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>>718465706
moar because i think 404 looms

>>718440236
>They died like they lived, completely separated from reality and in a pool of their own vomit.

Better than dying in a pool of someone elses vomit.

>>718465706
Never been to Britain but I'm familiar with Cornwall. At least Pictures of it. lol

I live in West Virginia. Have a 30 foot wide trout stream in my back yard. I love to fish, too.

Cheers brother.
Hope you pull yourself out.
As I said above, what got me out of all the damage I survived was doing Hoods in the Woods. It's like Outward Bound (I think you have that there) except working with hoodlums under the age of 18.

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West Virginia Mt Biking

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Table Rock

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My true love is white water rafting. This location (Fayetville,WV) is about an hour away from where I live

>>718449984
Lol, there's plenty of older channers on here. I'm not ancient but I'm 35 and have had plenty here say that I'm too old for 4chan.

>>718439913
If you choose the short one it won't be good

>>718439913
can confirm alcohol withdrawal is the worst out there, you can actually die from it and it lasts like a week

>>718439913
Do you want to ruin your life? Do you want to fuck up your body? Do you want to be an irritable dumbass? Do you want to get painfully sick beofre you die?

I'm pretty sure you say 'no' to all of the above. There's literally no reason to be an alcoholic. Are you bored? Go and do fun shit. Are you drinking away your problems? Stop making excuses and start working on them. It's the ultimate test of discipline and if you do get sober you feel like a new you.

I've never been a hardcore alcoholic like some of you but have been drinking 4-5-6...12 beers everyday with considerable amounts of whisky in between for a few years. I didn't even think it was that bad, my friends were in the same boat (and still are), but it did influence my life as I was a lazy jobless uneducated fucktard and I noticed that I became dumber by the day. Ironically, by sheer luck I first found a job and it motivated me to drink a lot less and prove myself. I drank less and less. You don't have to not drink a fucking drop of alcohol anymore in your life, I know that sounds like horror for an alcoholic. You just have to be straight to yourself and say "those beers every evening are bullshit". You're in a club on friday night? Of course, have a few. Just don't do it at those pointless moments!

>>718442936

You can't save your dad now.

It wasn't your fault he raped your sisters though, you should know that.

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>>718439913