No-Fap Thread. I'm considering starting. Experiences, negatives

>>718114944
Just get addicted to games. Fap cravings will go.

https://youtu.be/2yBBoB685OE

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nofap is gay and so are you

>>718114944

2 months in. Seriously could not recommend it more. Women can sense the hunger in a man who has built up sexual tension, and it attracts them very effectively. I've gotten laid 4 times already, vs 2 in the previous year.

I'm also more motivated and productive. Think about it, masturbating instead of chasing your sexual desires productively is horrible for the mind. Masturbating to porn, essentially watching another man fuck a woman you are attracted to can lead to inferiority complexes and such.

>>718115174
Don't just dismiss it. Give evidence of how fapping is better than not fapping.

>>718115435
Surely there must be downsides though? I'm not op but I'm also considering it. Is it not frustrating or somethin along those lines?

>>718115435
were they 4 fats chicks you easily pulled because of being super horny or decent looking achievements?

>>718115575
evidence part one
1. ur gay lol

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Even the strongest craving only last's 15 mins. So just keep in mind you only have to resist stimulus 15 mins tops

>>718115435
>>718115716

Last time I went a week without whacking it I banged a fat chick. Absolutely would not recommend

>>718115716
After about a month of zero fapping or even looking at anything my brain was very sexually charged, even meditation wouldnt work to calm it down for more than a few hours. I also would get migraines, so I cracked about a month and a half in and fapped. Theres definitely a balance to be had.

No fap should be retitled as porn abstinence. Fapping, once or twice a month I believe is healthy and necessary, and I say that from personal experience.

I believe all porn is bad for you though, citing the TED talk where the guy says porn rewires your brain because you get to see so many different naked chicks, doing whatever you want.

Just go without porn and limit your fapping, you dont have to be all black and white like everyone makes it out to be. Well. Cept with porn. Stop looking at it.

>>718115919
Red herring

According to /b/ not masturbating helps
>build confidence
>talk to women/get laid
> with anxiety and depression

Remember that /b/ is filled with depressed anxious virgins with no confidence.

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>>718116079

I wish I were joking, I'll never get that nasty cooch smell out of my nostrils. I almost retched during

>>718116066
>>718116247

also, she left a shit streak on my sheets cause she was on her back. So fucking nasty

>>718115716

There are but they are only short term. The first 7-10 days are miserable. My balls literally ached from the pressure. I popped wood every time I saw a woman bending over or wearing a low cut shirt, like I was in middle school again.

But your body attunes itself and begins to acclimate after that by focus that energy into productivity. Two days ago I wrote a long ass piece of literotica about defeating Conor mcgregor in the UFC, and claiming his girlfriend as my prize.
Productive? Not exactly. But it felt like it took no effort at all.

I've been doing better at work, have more energy to socialize, and yes, have more control in bed. You wouldn't think this was true but when you masturbate to porn, you end up skipping around and finding the best scenes to nut to, instead of treating sex like a wholistic experience to be enjoyed. Just remember that virtually everything worth doing is difficult at the start.

>>718116247
So yeah op don't try to better or discipline yourself because this guy fuxed up trying.

>>718116315
Yeah, see what this dude is getting at is what Im getting at. Not fapping at all, like complete abstience from ejaculating is bad.

Porn is bad.

Masturbating with nothing but your personal thoughts\spank bank, three or four times a month is totally normal, healthy, and will not negatively impact your life.

>>718115435

This.

I've actually stumbled on a pretty happy medium recently. I don't fap until there's legit uncomfortable blue balls. I either fuck or I fap and then I might give in the next day too because hormonely there's something going on there. And then the cycle repeats. I've been more on the ball in everything since. It might take up to two weeks before I need to take care of business but I take it on a daily/weekly basis based on how I feel my body is reacting.

I say it in every no fap thread, there's no harm in trying if you're curious. I don't know what animates the naysayers, but if you think it could help you in some way, I'd say, why not?

>>718116589
Dis. I'm sold. I'm gonna ban porn from my life.

>>718115837
kek, truth have been spoken

>>718116762
Yeah getting rid of porn is the main thing that will help anons attain what they desire, be it confidence, women, or whatever romantic facet they seek.

I think its important to maintain this dialogue, and remind other anons masturbating isnt the enemy.

Porn is.

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>>718115919
>>718116079
>>718116247

No fapper here,
Honestly dude that's nobody's fault but yours (pic related).
Welcome to life. Welcome to your actual standards. We are compelled by our biology, more powerfully than any other drive we have, to take women into our possession sexually. The longer we go without fulfilling that need, the lower we are willing to reach to do so.

But you still have a choice. You can learn to be strong and deal with the occasional dry spell, or you can revert to pathetically fondling yourself to the idea and image of women you actually want, taking a shortcut around living a happy life.
It's up to you.

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>>718114944
No fap is entirely placebo and baised.

Those who can do/make it through no fap already have self control, willpower, etc. once they believe they have a grip on not fapping they get this high where they realized they can succeed at something so they try to do other things. Then they will succeed at those things, even if it's only once and believe that it's all thanks to NoFap. So it's not really the the "no fapping effects" that give them this strength, it's what was in them all along.

It's also why former No Fappers are failures, because they didn't have that willpower or self control to begin with.

But on the end, I simply do not care if you blue ball yourself

You guys make it sound like nofap is only rewarding when you're actually having sex. This is 4chan

>>718117292
>Honestly dude that's nobody's fault but yours (pic related).

underrated

>>718117315

I see your point, but you're not just dealing with some simple task that makes you feel better about what you can accomplish. This is sex. Literally the most important thing to any and all of us, whether you want to admit it or not.

Masturbating is taking a shortcut around working toward and gaining the sexual approval of women, the one thing that makes us more happier and fulfilled on a basic level than anything else. The chemical pathways associated with sexual behavior are more powerful and have a greater impact on our psychological health than anything else in our lives. It's just wrong to think otherwise.

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>mfw no fap = 2 second sex sessions

>>718117292
eye-opening post is such

>>718118028
see
>>718116566

>>718118028
This. Once you nerds actually start getting laid, you'll realize that if you don't whack off ever once in a while, you're gonna last like 10 seconds when you have sex.

Bumping since this is the most important discussion for 4channers to have.

>>718117673
More to my point then. Your denying a biological need, which means only the people who have this high will power to do it will succeed.

Beyond that there are other ways to pick up girls than simply not fapping.

>>718117315
Not entirely true.

http://www.yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/threads/study-3-weeks-of-sexual-abstinence-elevates-testosterone-in-males.13792/

Science points to 3 weeks of abstinence elevates testosterone in males. Which would lead to a confidence boost, more energy etc.

I see what youre saying, and yes there are factors that are completely psychological,

but to suggest that nofap is entirely placebo, and just your perception forming a reality - thats not accurate. It does cause chemical changes in the body.

>>718115908
but who was phone

>>718115141
that shit looks retarded af
>>718117292
got a point, thanks

>>718118702

I'm not saying there aren't other things you need to work on to get yourself laid; there are plenty.

What I am saying is only fap if you absolutely cant get laid and youre so horny your getting miserable. Hold out as long as you can. Choosing not to fap is not denying a biological need. Our biological need is not just to blow a load; that is the root of it, but it is inexorably intertwined with the desire to gain a woman's acceptance and possess them sexually. The chemical changes that result from sex are actually quite different and more complex than those activated by masturbating.

>>718118372
wrong see the post before yours

>>718119319
We're all meeting at the same place here, my dudes.

Lets say your a daily masturbator, to porn. Videos, 4chan, etc.

Then you should abstain from jacking off for like...two weeks.

Abstain from porn COMPLETELY.

Then in like two weeks, three weeks - if you notice any negative changes or your thoughts become too sexually polluted - fap. But DO NOT watch porn. Just bust a nut.

Masturbating chronically, once a day or, four or five times a week - I think thats unhealthy.

Masturbating twice a week or... less, few times a month I dont see anything wrong with that.

But I cant imagine any scenario where porn of any kind is healthy for your body. PORN is the enemy, not jerking it.

I really dont think humanity had this problem before internet porn man, I really dont.

>>718120031
what about 6 times in one day? did that the other day.

>>718117315
>No fap is entirely placebo and baised.
>baised
>BAISED

Fucking genius here, folks. Even the word "biased" doesn't really work in that context.

Nofap or noporn has had real benefits for a lot of guys. I recommend it to see how it works for you. Ignore the chumps who call it worthless, or placebo (it is partially, but it's also hormonal and effects penis sensitivity as well; also placebo effects are still real effects), or "baised."

>>718120648

Thank you based placebo god.

>>718120318
Then yeah thats super unhealthy. I think the balance is like, twice a week - MAXIMUM, and thats high. You should be fapping LESS than that.

>>718120648
Lol I know I already debunked his claim with proof two weeks abstinence increases testosterone in males.

There is well established chemical science behind no fap. No one is debating that anymore.

>>718121438
what's unhealthy about it?

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>Mfw everybody's raging when ever someone says no fap doesn't work
>Mfw nofappers don't want to feel like thier sacrifice is in vain
>Mfw they think it makes a real difference

>>718114944
You morons are giving yourselves prostate cancer.

>>718121638

How about the fact that the only circumstances under which you would have six orgasms in one day would be in a brand-new long term relationship (in which your brain would be simultaneously flooded with oxytocin from being in love), or if you'd accomplished something badass enough that six different women wanted to have sex with you in the same day. Either way, you're fucking with your brain's reward system big time.

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>>718114944
Don't fall for this no fap bullshit OP.

It's just a bunch of beta cucks who think that if they stop jerking it like their moms said, that they will gain magic super powers in life.

It's all horseshit. Focus on bettering yourself man

>>718121679
Realize you're trolling/baiting, but nobody cares what you think or what your face is. Nofappers are out pullin' pussy while you're posting mems from your mom's basement.

*drops mic* muthafuckaaa

>>718114944
It does nothing but make you antsy.
The real challenge is no porn. Makes you start looking at women differently.

>>718122453
>It's just a bunch of beta cucks

Anyone who uses the word "beta" is a beta or omega.

Anyone who uses the word cuck is a moron or a Trump supporter, but I'm being redundant. KABOOM. #iceforthatburn #hashtagson/b/suckitneckbeards

>>718116566

you've sold me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0

skip to 1:30 for immediate redpilling

>>718122465
>drops mic, motherfuckerrr

Yep, beta cringe. I'm sure you are popping pussy. It's okay, I believe you

>>718123202
The second-worst thing in the world is not being believed by an internet rando.

>>718114944
If you're such a beta that jerking off is somehow affecting your mind and life chances are it's the porn you watch. Try have some imagination wanks or jerk of to softcore stuff.

>>718121638
Two seconds on google will answer that

How about you dont fap and just have sex? just my 2 cents

>>718122465
Everyone see this, this is the kind of person who stops fapping because they truly beleive it will change their lives.
Take a long hard look before you decide you want to be like that.

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>>718122453
Porn is really bad for the health just as smoking.
This is evil influence that you are putting out.

>>718114944
It's useless.

You shouldn't stop fapping because you want to but because you should have better things to do.

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>>718116566

>have more control in bed
Jesus christ, this. People dont get it man, they thinkt hat having control in bed is about being relaxed and easygoing. For me anyway, it's fucking not.

When I pop early is when Im fucking a woman who Im bored of in a relationship, or in the case of a one night stand, just someone im not that attracted to. Every time Im bored, or not that engaged in sex, boom after 2-3 minutes.

But the combination of no fap and being with someone you're REALLY into...god help her. The pent up sexual tension and animal attraction flips a switch in my brain. It's no longer about just getting a nut to relieve tension, scratching that itch. I get so worked up and horny that it becomes about taking her and fucking claiming her, displaying my god damn prowess and giving the bitch an experience she won't soon forget. Focusing on that and really fucking wanting it is how you really blow a woman's mind, and for me limiting my fapping is necessary to reach that point.

>>718124370

You act like it's not a two way street. It is.
You're not doing anough important things with your life because you're fapping too much, and you're fapping to much because you're not doing enough important things in your life. One begets the other.

>>718124013
Your cynical negativity has convinced me that nofap doesn't work. Oh wait, no, you're just an asshat.

>>718114944
I know this is a no fap, but post more that girl for the fap

yes, best thing I ever did. please just try it.

>>718114944
it doesnt work on me i have to fap once every day if i dont i just cum while sleeping i think my body works different but i dont have any complain about fapping i can cum whenever i want while fucking it doesnt effect me like that