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Why is trump asking congress to pay for the wall.......

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Why is trump asking congress to pay for the wall.......
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>>718031578
Pitchfork.
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Because "Mexico will pay for it" is just an applause line.
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>>718031476
God damn so he lied to us all?
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Congress holds the purse strings you idiot. Only Congress has the power to pay for shit, the president has the power to choose what they pay for
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>>718031959
But I thought he would make Mexico pay? That's what he promised us. That's why I vetoed for him
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>>718031476
So Mexicants quit coming here illegally
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>>718031476
Because asking for a $12,000,000,000 check from Mexico will never happen.


So he'll just make up for it in trade tariffs and returning jobs/manufacturing while getting the immediate process of building it underway.


Why are liberals so fucking dumb they need even the simplest things explained to them?
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>>718032145
You vetoed for him? That's impressive...
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>>718032145
Mexico paying with what money? Did you know that 1 USD is about 14 pesos? Their money is LESS powerful than ours and it would impact their economy more than it would impact ours.
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>>718031476
Actually we voted to set government money aside to pay for a wall a long time ago but Obama never wanted to do it so we never did. Now we are.
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>>718032200
but that isn't what he said.
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>>718032382
How's Hillarys recount working out for you?
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To get it done. In the meantime, mexico pays for it with a collapsing peso, lost auto plants and jobs, seizures of cartel money, new tariffs, new taxes on the billions wired out of our economy every year by illegals. If you thought mexico was going to write us a check, or even have a say in this, you're crazy.
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>>718032474
not as much as Trump is asking for.
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>>718031476
because we've all been cucked.
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>>718032382
Mexico here, actually it's about 21 pesos.
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>>718032200
This
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>>718032721
I'm actually happy trump won, we can't let that snake bitch into office.
But I voted for Gary.
>>718032846
Thanks for helping my point
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>>718032846
Fuck yeah time to convert my money to pesos and hit up adelitas and Hong Kong!!!!
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because it would fuck over generations of americans that are going to pay for it .

He's a russian puppet. Hilary was right all along.
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>>718032382
this is the vision...i want nothing less...
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>>718033064
K
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>>718032924
No problem, you're welcome.

>>718032929
In Mexico with about 10000 dlls you'd be rich for a while
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>>718031476
Why is Trump president?
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He's just following daddy's orders
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>>718033218
This is why
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>>718031476
Why is Prump Tresident?
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>>718033170
The rail seems a bit excessive but eh, if immigrants want to get here legally and if Americans want to be turistas, I'm totally cool with that.
>>718033203
¿De cuál parte eres?
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>>718033170
Only white trash could believe Trump to actually keep his promises word by word
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>>718033218
That's why
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>>718033203
I'm just going for adelitas and Hong Kong. I fucken love going there. Nothing but A1
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>>718033540
I am Floridian and can confirm that this land is dumbfuckistan.
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We should just invade and annex Mexico.
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>>718032200
His voters are asking the question. His voters were duped.

People say "conservatives always do this" and "why are liberals always this" are retarded. Both sides do the exact same things all the time.
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>>718033170
That file name though! KEK
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>>718033540
why is southern minnesota chopped off into the red section? garbage map
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>>718033627
This guy gets it, why fight when you can just fuck em
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>>718033540
When did Clinton win Michigan?
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>>718033930
pretty sure that map is not of the last election
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>>718033787
That's right. I go once a week. Bring like $200 with me and convert to pesos and god damn Im a king there. Pussy all over me.
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>>718033930
1996
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>>718033540
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>>718034012
>That's right. I go once a week. Bring like $200 with me and convert to pesos and god damn Im a king there. Pussy all over me.
If you want to fuck bitches that worked donkey shows, fine. You get what you pay for down there.
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>>718033641
Invading != annexing
Invading means use of military
Annexing means not using military
Both are incredibly shit ideas because Mexicans are more south American than north American. They're just more north than south geographically
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>>718034012
Nice, why can't we be friends?

Let love for pussy bring us together.
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>>718033446
what do you mean excessive. They are paying for it anyways, and we could use the rail to connect Texas and Cali in an hour or less!
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In Niggertown, they hate freedom.
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>>718033631
you are a self loathing faggot. go back to MI
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>>718031578
You gotta change it to just dindu days
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>>718034239
Unnecessary. There's already a highway that connects them. It's called an interstate.
And a train goes no faster than a car in the USA. It's unnecessary.
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>>718034123
Kek I guess you never been there. You don't know shit son.
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>>718032688
Yes, yes it is.
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>>718032724
If you actually belive thats whats going to happen you are dumber then the /pol/ trash who voted for trump
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>>718034139
yeah...no military when annexing territory...
>mfw
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>>718034139
>Both are incredibly shit ideas because Mexicans are more south American than north American. They're just more north than south geographically
I didn't say keep the Mexicans. People die in wars.
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Mexico will pay for it through boarder taxes you dumb cunt. They were never going to just give america the money.

Plus the cash is already set aside for the project. It has been for nearly a fucking decade.
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>>718032166
Fucking this.
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>>718034195
Just a 2 hour drive to TJ and I'm in heaven.
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>>718033170
that won't be a terrorist target, promise
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>>718034490
no, no its not
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>>718034396
you missed that high-speed part
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>>718034725
who cares. dirty mexicans are an endless supply of cheap labor.
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>>718033398
That guy won twice an pieced a smashed economy back together.

Trump is a russian agent.
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>>718034751
Yes, yes it is
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>>718033540
Lol you know colorado voted shillary right? Need to reverse those colors.
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>>718031476
Because Trump's a pussy. He can't even get Mexico...MEXICO to write a check.

Personally I ain't even mad tho. It's funny watching the retards do all their little faggity twists and turns to make it look like this was always the plan.
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>>718033540
educate yourself faggot
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Why not?
nigger
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>>718034824
Figure those trains go 250mph.
I guesstimate Texas to cali is about 500 miles?
Even at top speed with no friction or drag it will take 2 hours to get to Cali from Texas.
Might as well take a plane and be there in less time.
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>>718034021
Exactly my point. Fuck this map, it's not as red as it should be.
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>>718035068
Taxes lol
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>>718035177
Lol
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Stupid trump. How could he ask congress to pay for the wall. He isn't a true American. I pay my god damn taxis every year and here comes the cheeto asking congress to pay.
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>>718032145
>"vetoed"
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>>718034614
About 5%, in liquid form.
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>>718035595
precisely when you account for the counties with larger populations. Don't get me wrong that was a pro trump map for all the libtards who think that the popular vote should win and the electoral college has no purpose. I agree with the counties map entirely. Paints a striking picture
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>>718034951
no, no it's not
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Obama is the worst president of all time by a large margin.
Of course.
Hes a nig.
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>>718035791
>thinking bexar County = Harris County
>being this stupid
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>>718035955
so edgy
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>>718033540
It literally looks like the EC and this image....

It's hilarious how predictable we've become.
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>>718035595
>>718035791
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>>718032688
"Mexico is going to pay for it" doesnt nessisarily mean they will write a check. Retard.
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>>718036111

Why isn't he passing a law making Milhouse a meme
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>>718036006
Ha! Fuck 'em both. Too many whinorities
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>>718036117
necessarily

jesus christ learn to spell
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>>718031476
yeah?
only an idiot would think he could make mexico pay for the wall.
i believer the wall will eventually be an expansion on the original fence put up in the bush era
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>>718036049
partial or leaning doesn't count for the win...so sorry, please see
>>718035595
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>>718036049
Let's abolish all welfare
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>>718033218
Because the democrats were being criminals
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>>718036049
The welfare states voted red because they're sick and tired of paying for nigglets. The blue states voted blue because they want to pay for the nigglets. Problem solved! Ship all the nigglets to Cali and NY!
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>>718036331
Starting with corporate welfare.
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>>718036388
>The welfare states voted red because they're sick and tired of paying for nigglets
see>>718036393
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>>718036393
I AGREE. abolish welfare.
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>>718035595
Dude, what the fuck! why when I move my head the blue moves but the red doesn't?
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>>718036499
Nigglet found
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i still can't believe you americans elected a reality tv show star as the head of your entire country

do you guys WANT the US to fall?
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>>718032200
The US exports 262 billion in trade goods to mexico. Don't you think if Trump raises tariff's on Mexican goods, they'll do the same on US goods?
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>>718036976
not only that, but what if they just decide to move all their trade to china?

or even worse, what if they allow a chinese military base in mexico?
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>>718036976
>>718036976
The difference is that nearly all of the trade goods that come out of mexico go into the US. Mexico is more dependent on the US than the US on mexico
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>>718036922
I want America to be great again. And believe me, I know a lot about being great. A lot of people I know have said I know a lot about being great, just trust me. We're gonna make America great again.
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>>718037190
but the US is still dependent on mexico

mexico is the US's biggest trading partner
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>>718036027
undeniable logic
remember jordan was given all 6 by refs, did roids, and caried n fouled so much would be fouled out by halftime
:)
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why doesnt the government mass produce housing ?
give everyone a trump tower stayle building fo thier own?
all unemployed and lsoer teachers n marketing fucktards n laweyrs mvoe to mass producing housing
then have military spread clean thorium atomic
link cities with trains
and run things with a bit of brains
gods damn why we let lawyer judges tv morons and jewbad internet ad fucks run wild is beyond me
also all women on welfare and hek men!! start doing 30 handjobs a day to get your welfare at proliferation fo thai massage parlours
women forced to put out and not ahve kids they arent willing to pay for is how you win
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>>718034139
Look up a dictionary sometimes moran. Annexing happens after the military has occupied a territory and pacified it's population or genocided it.
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>>718037325
What a fucking lier
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_the_United_States
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>>718037599
ok so its only ONE of america's most important trading partners

also you misspelled "liar", are you retarded? thats a very simple word
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>>718031476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB38DvTV5kc
Because Trump said whatever the public wanted to hea to get elected and is now being honest that he lied. You couldn't make it up!
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>>718036922
What liberal country are you from good sir?
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>>718035955
Sure O Edgelord! At least Obama can put together words into complete sentences that actually make sense. Neither the previous Repug Prez nor the next one can.
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>>718037873
im from finland, one of the most economically successful and developed countries in the world, that has almost no crime or poverty, and has universal education and healthcare
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>>718037959
And one of the whitest counties on earth
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>>718033540
>california isnt part of dumbfuckistan
uhhhh
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>>718037959
Just a heads up, that other anon is going to credit all of America's crime, poverty, and many other problems solely on the existence of blacks, Jews, and Latinos.

Oh, they did>>718038047
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>>718038047
and finland also has one of the most socialistic governments
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>>718037583
Wernicke's aphasia? Word salad syndrome? Fluent but nonsensical speech? You got all the symptoms kid...go to a good neurologist NOW!
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>>718038180
Socialism works if you have no diversity
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>>718034012
Found the virgin
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>>718036049
>>718036115
>>718036393
>>718036499

What I'm supposed to believe according to liberal fake news:

>People on welfare vote against their own self-interest
>All rural people are stupid in comparison to the urban master race
>Disagreement over trade unions never happened rural people are all just "cleetus"
>It's wrong to stereotype others, except rural people, they're "just stupid"

The truth:

>People who have to actually deal with welfare recipients don't like welfare because it encourages degenerate behavior

>"Blacks" have a crime problem because black women are having children just to receive more money and kicking them out after doing little but alternately feeding them cheap garbage and beating them for 18 years

>An entire generation of black men have been robbed of a future by being born to degenerates created by the government

Libcucks are hypocrites.
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>>718038318
dont tell trump, you'll get called a cuck
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>>718033540
Do you really believe that spouting that type of nonsense is going to rally support against Trump? Because if the angry racist rednecks in the south with no educations and fucked up teeth suddenly turn to action instead of patiently sitting through all your leftist bullshit, you'll wonder what set them off, call them maniacs, and the cycle will only repeat until white males are once again the clearly dominant force in America again.

On second thought, keep it up. You're doing god's work.
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>>718038324
>It's only like that because there's more of us
k
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>>718038318
certain states are almost completely white, like maine and vermont

are you saying that those states should adopt socialistic policies?
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>>718038324
Okay Cleetus.
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>>718036976
They already charge us tariffs, dipshit. That's the point.

Mexico needs the US a lot more than the US needs Mexico.
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>>718038431
I dont need to rally support against Trump. The shit and shenanigans he will bestow on this country will automatically do that over the next four years. What the Dems need to do is sit aside and not have their fingerprints on any policy that dumass proposes and Congress passes.
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>>718038318
Explain China, which has over 50 ethnicities, is still rising, and is even in the process of helping other states rise.
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>>718038658
>Mexico needs the US a lot more than the US needs Mexico.
But then where will trump import his ties and suits from?
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>>718038318
socialism doesnt work at all you fucking cuck libtard

go look at russia if you think it works you fucking idiot
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>>718038324
>welfare encourages degenerate behavior
Which perfectly explains the maps, along with this chart.
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>>718038721
All chinese
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>>718038792
What does socialism mean. Please define it for me
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>>718038863
you really are fucking retarded aren't you

you have no fucking clue what youre talking about

im done with this thread, talking to people who think china has a single ethnic group is bad for my health
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>>718037690
At least i dont spew bullshit like i know things that i don't.
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>>718038863
no
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>>718038792
>go look at russia if you think it works you fucking idiot
Russia's doing pretty well right now, they're even deciding other countries elections.
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>>718038817
Blacks are still 13%, that's pretty high for 13%
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>>718038792
It does in a monolithic white county like Finland
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>>718038863
>All chinese
>Dandong, PRC
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>>718039006
>posting pepe memes on 4chan decided the election
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>>718038923
socialistic policies are when the government has programs that are designed to help the population as a whole rather than helping indivduals

>>718039006
look at russia in 1992 you dumbass libtard

>>718039026
no it doesnt you fucking idiot, it encourages lazyness and crime
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>>718039132
>look at russia in 1992 you dumbass libtard
There's a difference between 1992 and 2016.
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>>718039016
Earlier, another anon said 14%. Before them, someone said 12%. It has less to do with just who is 'doing' the crimes, and more with who actually gets arrested.
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>>718031476
You missed the point OP. Trump is asking us - the US tax payers to pay for his shitty wall. Congress just controls the purse strings. Betcha a dollar that his Trump companies or their fronts get the juicy government contract worth 20 billion.
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>>718039187
ya but 1992 is when they were mainly socialistic you libcuck
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>>718039232
Can you do anything other than say things you don't know anything about and call people cucks?
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>>718039132
I agree that socialism can never work in a diverse society like the US.
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>>718031476
Because he doesn't know what he's doing. Face it, if you voted for Trump, you voted for a cuck.
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>>718039337
yes i can call you a libtard too you cuck

if you hate america so much just move to china
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>>718038710
Well we'll have to wait on that one, and I'm glad you're in such a hurry to shut down all those proposals he hasn't even made yet, very passionate.

But my main point in there is that you are attacking his voterbase and him as a person, instead of his policies, which there none of course because he's not in office yet. You are making the very problem you believe Trump stands for exponentially worse by doing this, and fucks like you are the reason the election went the way it did.
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>>718039441
>if you hate america so much just move to china
Why didn't you move there when Obama was president?
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Japanese people smell like fish and rotting eggs
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>>718039506
i liked obama OK, he didnt thrill me but he wasn't worth moving out of the country over
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>>718038945
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Because all monies go through congress. Even any tariffs collected from mexico.

But good luck getting money from that batch of crooks
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>>718032200

lol today in fantasyland ...

y'all have no idea how tariffs work and are seriously delusional if you think they'e gonna recoup 12 billion dollars.

Jesus christ you retards.
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>>718031476

And all the Trump voters are now understanding what other people said when they told them "Trump will back off on all his promises, because he only cares about Trump and he lied to get your votes."

Well there ya go America, you got what you wanted, now Corporate control of your country is in full swing, prepare for an economic crash by 2020.

You have all fucked it. Truly and royally.

When a nation sits and believes the government lies through the Media about Islam and that it is a massive threat when it is 20-30,000 Extremists that are. Then you all deserve what you get.

Case in point, tell me why are you so scared about Islamic Extremists (or all Muslims) when your own people are more dangerous.

Case in point, the guy who shot up Ft Lauderdale and killed people, you don't see that as an act of terrorism do you? Why? Because he is American and doesn't follow Islam?

That is how narrowminded Americans are, terrorism happens with any religion and with any race or country.

All those school shootings, all those whacky church deaths, they are all terrorism attacks.
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>>718040227
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>>718039441

if your next door neighbor is putting more effort than you into maintaining his house, do you just move into his house?
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>Trump gets all american auto companies back in the U.S
>all the Mexican auto plants close
>tons of unemployed people in Mexico as a result
>many come here illegally (the wall isnt going to do anything whatsoever you fucktards), while the rest start working for cartels

Great job, Trumptards.
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>>718032200
You're part of the WTO retard, you cant slap trade tarrifs on another country like that. As for returning jobs, I didnt know your industries had been nationalised.

You fucking Trumpistanis are so fucking stupid.
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>>718032166
Won't happen.
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>>718038495

>Figures unadjusted for relative population
>Thinks everything I said doesn't apply to every race to some degree
>Doesn't want to face the fact his government is still harming black people, would rather blame the police, video games or whatever else
>Will directly censure or corrupt the artistic intent of anyone who disagrees because he believes the ends justify the means

>>718038589

Okay cuck. Hey, wait a second, shouldn't you be burning a book that has racism in it or something? Hey libcucks, I think I found one of your guys slacking off on the job!

>>718038817

>Unadjusted figures

If anything your own argument heavily suggests that whites are the most resistant to criminal degeneracy. Gee, I wonder if it's because we're not being peddled art and music that encourages and glorifies crime and racial violence twenty-four hours a fucking day? You must think people are fucking blind and deaf.

Keep encouraging racial tension and economic breakdown, I'm sure everyone will share lots of hugs and gay sex and there won't be any horrifying widespread violence, race riots or lone wolf terrorists.
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Building a wall will keep mexicans out like shit nigger dig a tunnel or buy a ladder fuck
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>>718040380

You just made yourself look dumb, not Liberal, and not American.

Also 0/8 attempt.

Well enjoy your shitty America.

But before I leave, do tell me about how you think your GDP is America's Wealth, because I like it when you fucktards think that.
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>>718040898
>Okay cuck. Hey, wait a second, shouldn't you be burning a book that has racism in it or something? Hey libcucks, I think I found one of your guys slacking off on the job!
>calling you cleetus triggered you this much
this thread is fun
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>>718040744
Are you part of the EU? That's cute.
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>>718038710
>The shit and shenanigans he will bestow on this country will automatically do that over the next four years. What the Dems need to do is sit aside and not have their fingerprints on any policy that dumass proposes and Congress passes.

It'll be the Bush era all over again.. prepare yourselves.

I just dont understand Republicans.. they keep electing the dumbest fucking idiots they can find. McCain was cool, Romney was okay, but the ones that actually win are the dumbest ones out there... just goes to show you the IQ of the average Republican.
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>>718038324
This guy gets his news from his Facebook feed
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>>718040734

Not only that, losing 40% of America's trade, because Trump wants to leave the Pacific 12.

All because he listens to Putin. And then Putin walks in the back door and sets up a new Pacific 12 with Russia in the lead with China.

And Americans think this is fine... it is extremely laughable.
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>>718031476
Because he's a fucking idiot and didn't realize you can't just make another country pay for stupid shit.
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>>718040734
>beaners mad because America took der jerbs
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>>718041254
Hello liberal faggot
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>>718041467
He's right though Trump was clearly lying and you idiots believed him. Fuck what a bunch of retards
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>>718040227
If ISIS is the issue, and ISIS overlaps with Muslims, and Muslims are the primary uniting factor behind the migrant influx, and the migrant influx correlates to increased violence and civil unrest across the EU, then how is there not something here to be concerned about, especially when talking about doing the same stupid shit here? If Abdul learned English, took a bath, and acted like he was in America when he, you know, immigrated to America, instead of rushing right into welfare and a Walmart position without learning so much as "Hello, how are you?" then nobody would care. They don't care about my country, it's laws, and my way of life, then proceed to come here and stomp on all of them, therefore fuck them.

And if the guy at Ft Lauderdale had recorded a video of himself pledging allegiance to ISIS or shouting Allah Ackbar before gunning those people down, maybe then we'd more easily associate him with the literal TERROR ORGANIZATION that you're claiming is either a non-substantial threat or the main threat, I don't know which.
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>>718041673
You faggotry influences nobody
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>>718041073

/pol/ blaming "libtards" for everything is just a coping mechanism. They know they fucked up but dont want to admit it, so they just ridicule those "against them" anyway they can. Whether it makes sense or not.
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>>718041854
How does it feel to be so guillable
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Shhhh!.... Russians are hacking
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>>718041419

I'm saying, you extreme dumbfuck, that taking jobs from Mexico is going to hurt you in the long run.
By taking the small amount of jobs there as it is, you will create even more mexican poverty, and those people will be forced to look to the north for more opportunities, whether legally or illegally (most likely illegally). The rest will start working for cartels.

But nah, thats too longsighted for you stupid inbreds.
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>>718042109
>But nah, thats too longsighted for you stupid inbreds.
Hey cuck, i live in a house not in bread.
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>>718041467

Y-youre a faggot cuck liberal!!1

Get better "insults." You /pol/tards are getting really stale.
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>>718042246
>Hey cuck, i live in a house not in bread.

Case in point.
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>>718042006
Fantastic, how's your recount working out?
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>>718034614
>Boarder taxes
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>>718042421

More than 3 million votes than Trumpski...
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>>718042109
not my problem
taco niggers should get their shit together instead of leeching off of the US
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>>718042404
that was a joke, but people really are that retarded so your confusion is forgiven
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>>718042552
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>>718042552
Did you win yet?
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>>718041736

I see you are brainwashed to think in a singular way.

1. ISIS is extremists who misuse Islam. Just like IRA used to misuse Catholicism. Just like the KKK misuse Protestantism.

2. Asylum seekers and Migrants doesn't equate to any increase in violence, that is the far right groups and the far left's defensive battle cry, to drive hate towards normal Muslims.

For example there is no "No go zones" at all in Europe. And in Sweden Muslims aren't mass raping people like they would lead you to believe.

In fact overall in Europe, Muslims are barely even close to 1% of all crimes committed yearly.

3. ISIS proclaims they send agents in the Asylum groups, which is untrue, because ISIS wants people to be scared of people fleeing a warzone that they will get sent back, which is what they want.

The fact migrants and asylum seekers are being accepted is a nail in the coffin of ISIS, as now those people see that ISIS lies about the west mass hating Muslims (when it is only a small percentage of racist fuckwits who do).

4. As for the stupid welfare claims etc, the majority who are in the US right now, are citizens and either have businesses, work and pay taxes and have even served in the military to fight against ISIS and Al'Qaeda.

But the media never points that out, because if they do it would make people question what they have been told. Which is why when that father and mother got up to talk about his Son being in the Army and giving up his life for America, and Trump was shitting on him. It opened up the eyes a bit.

5. The fact you assume that only terrorism is from Islamic extremists is almost cringe worthy. So Timothy McVeigh's bombing in Oklahoma in the 90s wasn't a terrorist act? By your logic it wasn't because he was not a Muslim.

What about the IRA bombings in the UK over the decades and murders? Not Terrorism either?

Terrorism is an act by an individual who attacks others with no provocation with or without a cause, to cause death and fear.
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>>718037873
I'd honestly put my dick in that girl.
I'd probably foot the dinner bill, but I bet it'd be worth it.

The scandal and media dlfrenzy outside my house...not so much.
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>>718031476
because YOU CANT MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT YOU FUCKING RETARDED STUPID FOOLS

trump supporters WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING ME

YOU GRIPE ABOUT TAXES AND YOU ELECT A MAN ON THE.MOST.EXPENSIVE.PLATFORM.FUCK.YOU.ALL
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>>718031476
Mexico has to pay still.... We want the wall now, so we will fund it then mexico will pay back
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>>718043077
youre fucking retarded
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>>718043077
"trump said it so its true"
cuck
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>>718037172
>or even worse, what if they allow a chinese military base in mexico?

We build another wall, and make China pay for it.
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>>718032200
>thinks protectionism helps anyone
fucking leftist trumpkin faggot
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I just hope in 4-8 years, we are in less of a mess globally than we are now.

We really do need to focus on the US first and foremost, to dig ourselves out of debt to other countries, but at the same time I hope we don't alienate ourselves from them.
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>>718043077
AAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I just want to say that while I do want the illegals out of the country, I'd like for the ones who earned their citizenship to stay.
If they've woried for it, it should be theirs.
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>>718043015
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>>718043379
we're not really in debt... we are trading currency. countries that make our goods buy our bonds so that they can continue to export to us. its a mutual agreement. we will all move forward together and there is nothing to worry about.
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>>718043077

Dumb fucking Trump supporters.

Delusional idiots right to the end.

What will it take for you to realize Trump played you all for fools?

>said he'd jail Clinton, then after he won he said he wouldnt do tht
>said he'd "drain the swamp" then ended up hiring them (then he'd say the "drain the swamp" meme was stupid)
>said Mexico would pay for the wall. Now says he'll ask congress to pay for it

Fools.
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>>718043645
Stop being rational
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You might be able to measure someone's intelligence based on how much they believe what comes out of a politician's mouth. The more they believe, the dumber they are.
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>>718031476
trump supporters have to be the single most retarded group of people that have ever existed in history.
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>>718043660
I kinda want to believe you, but my knowledge in the US debt vs. Debt owed to us is very lacking.
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>>718031476

To make new jobs dick weed.
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>>718043742
Can't. If I slip into the assmad mentality, I'm worried I can't go back.
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>>718043810
True, the world is our bitch
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>>718043692
This.
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>>718043810
i'm a phd student in studying the global economy. the right wing uses debt rhetoric to build up a base of dumbasses. the chinese and japanese (and other exporting economies, like germany, singapore, etc) their economies would all crumble if we defaulted, because they would have nowhere to export to.

we are past the point of national politics. we are in the global economy now and we all depend on each other. we are taking care of each other and we will continue to do so.
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>>718043692
Hasn't started the job yet
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>>718043998
>already fucked it up
>cant deliver shit
>most stupid president and base of support in entire world
>lower than africa tier politician
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>>718043998
That's what makes it even worse. These are signs to come, foreshadowing. You'll learn soon enough.
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>>718043978
Really? What college would be good to attend to best understand this?
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>>718043660

Actually you are in debt to the banks, your national debt is loans taken out from banks to pay for the promises made - healthcare, policing etc

Hence why the national debt incurs interest.

$20 Trn that makes interest per second.

Every year American companies produce the country's GDP. But unlike what the majority of Americans believe, the GDP is NOT America's wealth, it is profits for the companies in America.

And it is taxed currently at 10.5% - so last year that would be over $1.9 trn to the coffers.

That would be nice to use that to pay off a chunk of the national debt right?

Wrong.

Most of it is given back to the companies as rebates, because most of your senate and congress members are shareholders for those companies.

So civilians who are employed pay the interest best as possible with taxes... which is rebated also, so every year America gets into more and more debt by itself.

Doesn't help when your military budget is $500bn more than other countries like China and Russia, because you need to spend 600bn+ a year to "combat" ISIS, which is a lie. It is just to make the congress and senate peeps more money.. because... that's right you guessed it... shareholders.

Now with Trump in power, expect the 10.5% Tax to be lowered to 8% again, so the rebates means companies pay very little tax to the country. And shareholders get more.

Well done peeps. well done. Like I said earlier Americans fucked up their own country.
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>>718044095
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>>718044098
depends which level youre going for. university of california santa barbara has one of the best undergraduate global studies programs in the country. they also have an MA program. there are others popping up around the US too. the field started in the 1990s as its own discipline so only top universities have it so far, hasnt really spread out yet.
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>>718043998
>Hasn't started the job yet

Exactly. Hasnt even started yet and he's already backed from half the shit he said while campaigning..

And youre still posting "Trump the Great" pictures. Cant make this shit up.
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>>718033540
nice try retard. michigan wisconsin and penn were a thing.
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>>718044243
>still deflecting
See:
>>718043692
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>>718044079
Hows england?
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>>718043978

Ahh the olde "Countries have to trade with America to survive" rhetoric.

It is a lie.

Which is why more and more countries are starting to favour Germany and China more for specific goods.
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>>718044174
youre fucking retarded.
the debt comes from bonds traaded on international currency markets
stop getting your information from libertarian shitstain youtube videos.
china buys bonds from us, thats why we have debt. they use the currency (in the form of bonds) to produce cheaply and sell us goods. WE DESIGNED THIS SYSTEM so that americans can have access to cheap goods. we wanted to move from manufacturing to service and tech based economy
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>>718044349
>straw man
How's your boipucci?

I'm not that anon btw.
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>>718044174

B-b-but Trump will drain the swamp! He told me so on Fox News!
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>>718044243
She's a Shiller Queen
Guns and bullets in the streets
Dining nights and liberal teens
Guarenteed to run and hide
EVERY DAMN TIME
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>>718044263
Damn. Not at all sure I could afford that, and I don't want to owe money I can't pay off within the year.
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>>718044263
So you'll work at Starbucks?
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>>718044581
work your way up through city college and transfer to a UC once you establish residency in california. take out some loans then find a graduate school that will give you free tuition if you do research/ TA for them. when theres a will theres a way.
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Serious question here, why do people give a fuck about politics? the return that you get is so fucking minimal for the amount of arguing/studying that you have to do.. like, i get the whole "informed electorate" line and that if everyone was apathetic then we would be "fucked," but i anecdotally know a lot of people who are super fucking into politics but have shit jobs, don't work out, don't read, and don't have GFs/BFs. like, if you spent your time going to the gym or reading Dostoevsky instead of bitching about trump/hillary imagine how much more you potentially could have done in the past 2 years instead of being happy or sad that your candidate didn't get elected.. just from a totally selfish perspective
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Now I get it. Your white lib cali faggots.
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>>718044695
>establish residency in cali
I live in Indiana. I might be a bit fucked.
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>>718044666
field research in international development with NGOs, then teach at a major university and write books about my time traveling the world doing research. im on phd track though.
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>>718044801
Want do you produce?
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>>718044778
Knowing about the people who decide where your taxmoney goes to is pretty important.
Even moreso when those people interact with foreign leaders on the regular.

I'd like for the face of the US to be dignified and respectable...
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>>718043008
Isn't that the girl that /b/ went nuts over when she was 13? I think it was during their grieving period over boxy.
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>>718042774
1. Misuse cannot be spelled without "use". Even if they use it "wrongly", they are using it and standing behind it. Proudly, I might add. And the issue is that since those two groups overlap, no matter how close to the "intended purpose" a person is, that overlap is why ISIS is a threat, "good" Muslims are a shield to them.

2. Cologne rapes? Nice? The German Christmas market incident? I don't care about Muslims in this regard, I care about what could've been avoided or stopped altogether by not exercising such a backwards, asinine border policy. Not to mention the violence from both the fed-up right wing and the extremist left-wing in response to each other and around migrant camps. And 1% of crime? I'd like to see your source on that one.

3. Or they see it as an easy opportunity to infiltrate and attack Western cities. How do you know this is untrue? Why should the migrants not be at home fighting these extremists out of their land? Assuming the number of ISIS members equates to 30k, with US/UN support, ISIS could be gone or at the very least massively quelled if these people cared about their homes, but they instead choose to flee to foreign nations and bring with them everything the left behind, including their oppressive attitudes towards women, LGBT, non-believers, et al.

4. Who said anything about the people in the US right now? The left wants to bring in a large wave of people with by and large little to no skills to offer to the West in it's current form.

5. Terrorism is not exclusive to ISIS or Muslims. I was going to mention the IRA myself but you already did. Although unless you can explain the political goal this guy was trying to make here then I'm gonna have trouble believing it's terrorism. If the only thing that qualified a crime as terrorism was a corpse then you think you'd hear abot terrorism some more. It's almost as if terrorism is committed to further an agenda or something.
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>>718044783
>Your white lib cali faggots.

>uses "your" instead of "you're"

Now I get it. You're a Trump inbred.
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>>718044948
Wow, tolerant.
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>>718044446

Son... you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Your national debt is the costs to run your country, and that money is borrowed from banks, not fucking bonds traded on the currency markets.

Because American doesn't have 20 trn of anything to trade with. Let alone the close to 1trn a year it needs to operate.

Now the big clue to your fucking anal logic is the name of the debt.

NATIONAL, i.e. your own country's debt. Not a debt with other countries. But your own.

Don't get it confused from your International Trade debt. Which is what you are doing.

Damn you yanks are fucking dumb.
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>>718044778
Tocqueville's Letters:
"You say that institutions are only half my subject. I go farther than you, and I say that they are not even half. You know my ideas well enough to know that I accord institutions only a secondary influence on the destiny of men... I am quite convinced that political societies are not what their laws make them, but what sentiments, beliefs, ideas, habits of the heart, and the spirit of the men who form them, prepare them in advance to be, as well as what nature and education have made them"
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>>718044913
>I'd like for the face of the US to be dignified and respectable...

Hope you didnt vote for Trump. Cause otherwise, wew..
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>>718037873
its like they're using pastry as a metaphor for their hoo-ha's
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>>718044913
on a personal level why is it important? your knowledge (and your vote which stems from it) is just a drop in a 300 million person bucket or whatever the electorate is.. even if the government literally burned your money in front of you, i doubt the electorate could do anything to stop them... i think the manufacturing of consent for vietnam made that pretty obvious
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>>718045008

Never said I was a liberal.

Thats what you were implying with that "tolerant" thing, right?
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>>718044948
>Grammar Nazi on a Vietnamese sewing forum

>>>/reddit/

And stay there, for christ's sake

>inb4 "jesus loving hick"
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>>718044797
yeah its hard to jump that cost of living. you can do it though. plenty of cheap places out here if youre open minded.

>>718044783
and youre a piece of shit faggot

>>718044876
in NGO work? better standards of living and more efficient allocation of resources, creating a direct positive impact on people. in academia, i pass on knowledge to people who want to learn, and pass on a letter grade to people who dont care and just want to get by. oh and i produce a comfy living for myself. what do you produce?
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>>718045016

I haven't fallen for Trump's bullshit.

"If fixating on the overall U.S. trade balance weren’t dumb enough, Trump goes one step further and obsesses over an even more meaningless stat: the U.S.-China trade balance. As I’ve examined repeatedly, the proliferation of global supply chains and multinational investment has rendered bilateral trade balances an empty trade policy metric.

Indeed, old-school trade stats like these have become so obsolete that the World Trade Organization has launched a global initiative to determine how better to account for actual trade flows. The most common example of the indisputable obsolescence of the U.S.-China trade deficit is the iPhone: each device imported into the United States from China accounts for about $300 towards the bilateral trade deficit, yet the Chinese get only about six bucks worth of value from the item’s assembly and shipment. Meanwhile, the U.S.-based Apple and its affiliates get hundreds of dollars from an iPhone’s final U.S. sale (for things like design, marketing, and even some manufacturing)."

http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/20/almost-everything-donald-trump-says-about-trade-with-china-is-wrong/
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>>718044922
Noidea, but she's real cute.
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>>718045062
I didn't vote.
Didn't exactly want Trump nor Hillary, and Gary ducked out by the time I was gonna vote, but wasn't real sure about him either.
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>>718045144

My point wasnt to be a grammar nazi, but that you literally dont know the difference between both. As expected of a Trumptard.
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>>718031476
Trump is making Mexico pay for it by bringing back the industry. Those business employes Americans and Mexico losses jobs and tax money. Sadly, Congress hold the control in spending matters so he's asking for it..
Tldr 24d chess basically
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>>718045092
Because I want to know more about those who run my country. I don't reallyneedmore reason than that.
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>>718031476
more like asking taxpayers to pay for it.
remember when he said "i know the best people" (to build the wall)? that means he will drain the tax payers money and stuff them in his pockets, together with his billionaire friends.

it's fucking incredible that anyone ever thought mexico would pay for it.
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>>718031959
congress doesn't hold mexico's purse strings, you idiot. or are you going to pretend that trump never promised that mexico was going to pay for it?
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>>718044783
Ignorant fucking cunt.
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>>718045157
So you produce nothing and make kids parents pay for it. Got it.
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>>718045256

I can see why.

Honestly, all three (including Johnson) were horrible choices.

How is it possible that in a country of 300+M people, we get these three (or I should say 2, cause Gary had no chance)? Just boggles my mind.
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>>718032200
>implying
>implying
>implying
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>>718045056
i'll check him out, haven't read him personally.

>>718045320
just trying to get an idea of what the value trade off is, because i feel like you're only losing and gaining nothing other than maybe peace of mind
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>>718036922
california did it, you shouldnt have been that surprised
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>>718044943

1. Misuse was the correct word, as they were using the religion of choice incorrectly.

2. I never said they didn't happen, but not the numbers as reported by far right sites. For example in Sweden, white Swedes still do the most rapes per year vs a small percentage of Muslims. It is shit that they happen on both sides of the fence, but not the huge numbers you are led to believe.

3. Because the people who have attacked cities, were not Asylum Seekers or Migrants, but Immigrants who went the long route of citizenship. If you look up the information on the people who have attacked in Europe in the last 5 years, you will see this is true. It is something removed from the media to drive fear.

4. Because America was mentioned in the original post. Why wouldn't I talk about it?

5. You just understand what terrorism means, it doesn't have to be Religious, and that is what people get caught up with all the time, it is political.

Now the guy who shot up Ft Lauderdale yesterday was a political motive, it was against the US government, because he was removed from service in Alaska, and claimed they were forcing him to join ISIS.

As for School shootings, it is political, bullying is a political subject believe it or not, so when kids just go and start shooting kids because of bullying or because their social status or how they are living, it is political, and thusly a terrorist act.
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>>718045016
no, all international currencies are valued on the dollar standard. value of currency is different from country to country. in order to trade goods between countries, that value has to be converted. that is done through BUYING CURRENCIES which is achieved through the purchase of things like BONDS. we literally would NOT BE ABLE TO BUY from foreign companies without BUYING CURRENCIES. we are in debt because we SELL BONDS which is a FEDERAL LOAN purchasable by citizens and NATIONS. other nations HAVE to buy US dollars in order to sell ANYTHING to us. we are in debt because of our trade imbalances in the global economy. we are the consumers of the world, we dont produce much anymore that is why we are in a deficit. but the producing economies of the world need a market to sell to and we are still among the top consumers. thats why we have been able to accumulate 'debt'... its not really debt! its a history record of exchange.

you are viewing the world from the narrow-ass view of the "national economy" --- that shit doesnt even exist anymore. we have globalized. stop alex jonesing me. ron paul was a hack whose analysis lost relevancy in the 1980 when the economy globalized.

wall street knows it. the fed knows it. obama knows it. the republicans fucking know it. they just play you libertarian cucktards like some undereducated fucks, which honestly most people are because they teach us fucking NOTHING in school
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>>718045286
More empty name-calling from the left on a high horse. Always puts a smile on my face to see one of you reduced to that point. Stay classy my man.
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