>>717487550 You guys seem to have a hero complex as a nation. Israel tries to maintain an underdog status because of the events of the second world war, up until recently America has felt gratified to support them, because they got to "save" someone.
-38bn in military aid -Bibi fly's to the US and addresses congress to spite POTUS -Israel hasn't deployed 1 soldier to Iraq, Syria or Afghanistan -Doesn't want a 2 state solution because funding would get cut off.
Imagine what 38bn would do for the education system in the South or law enforcement in inner cities like Chicago.
>>717487118 because everyone who isn't an ardent and vocal supporter of Israel is a nazi.
The truth of the matter is that it wasn't even a country for a millenia before the end of WW2. When the Allies were dividing up all the territory and reestablishing borders of nations they decided to give the Jews somewhere to go to get out of western europe. And they created this new copy of an ancient defunct nation on land that already had Palestinians living on it. But since it's supposed to be the sacred land promised to them in their religion which is the foundation of all christian religion also, everyone feels religiously obligated to support the idea. And also if you question its legitimacy you get called a nazi.
>>717487118 Because it's the only place in the middle east that overs civil and human rights to all people. It's the last beacon of democracy and freedom in the region. Has nothing to do with jews or zion.
>>717488986 Freedom, really? They use propaganda to create fear in their citizens, so they won't object to the horrible shit their state does. They actively have to tell their populace that the world hates them in order to keep them faithful to the nation.
>>717489489 The only fundamental Christians coming to blow you up are white supremacist, unless you work at a abortion providers office or count stuff the united States president's such as Reagan have done.
>>717489523 I don't really have any beef with the Israeli people, it's their government that's fucked up. People react to the information they get, if they are told that the world unilaterally hates them, they are going to react defensive. >>717489480 Voting should be done on well informed choice, not propagandized bull.
They are our (US) largest and most powerful ally in the middle east. Isreal is also a very influential country in many aspects from manufacturing to science research. They are also much more acceptable to both Western people and mesh better with those values that the western cultures hold.
Also they are heavily supported by the American Republican party because they are often the party of Christians I'm America. It is said that the return of Christ and the beginning of Armageddon will begin when the chosen people are in the holy land. So they think it is important to support Isreal so as to bring about the end of the world and so all good Christians will go to heaven in the rapture.
>>717490008 >I don't really have any beef with the Israeli people, it's their government that's fucked up. People react to the information they get, if they are told that the world unilaterally hates them, they are going to react defensive. Buddy boy, the world just told us that we have no legal right to our capital. Fuck them.
>Voting should be done on well informed choice, not propagandized bull. To what 'propagandized bull' are you referring? Believe you me, the world is not helping. The UN just ruined the two-state solution. http://www.unwatch.org/joining-jackals-open-letter-amb-samantha-power/
>>717490130 Ally would mean they support the US in their conflicts. Not the case at all, they just beg for more money and violate UN Sanctions.
2nd point: the US is basing their blank check approach to Israel on a book that details the life of an imaginary person.
Israel does nothing for the US except whine and complain when they don't get what they want. I hope they go away for good. It's common knowledge that Jews cause most of the issues in the world. If the US stopped supporting Israel, terrorism against the US would likely diminish.
>>717490259 Mostly yourself, if someone keeps telling you that everyone hates you, what do they have to gain from that? >>717490375 The UN just told you guys to stop taking land and building settlements on it. Also you don't have to look further than one of the threads that the JIDF start up here on this site to see the propaganda. Usually at the same time as your government is doing something shady again.
>>717491414 Different types, the UN lumped them all in together. There's the type that we took from Syria, Egypt and Jordan, there's the type that we're admittedly illegally building, there's the type that actually was Jewish before the Jews were kicked out. All of these are now illegal according to the UN. (Bullshit, in a defensive war, land taken isn't considered occupied territory.)
Second, it's possible with land swaps to keep the settlements and give them other good land.
Thirdly, the ones building the settlements that are against Israeli law don't actually want a two-state solution.
>>717491415 You're still an aggressor. Even if tip your hat and kiss babies as the invasion force makes a pass.
If you did this to my home I'd call their response pacifistic, but they've gotten used to it. Palestine is fully justified in attacking IDF troops and Israeli authorities.
Now attacking civilians, ergo where they actually become terrorists, that's where it becomes a problem of course. It's where Hezbollah went from an organization that was objectively right (when it was expelling British occupation from Lebanon) to a terrorist org (when they got too big for their britches afterwards and started actual terrorist activity)
However if Hamas pops an IDF tank, well that's just the cost of business to you. Shouldn't have invaded if you didn't want to accept that possibility. Certainly shouldn't take it out on Palestinians.
And don't give me that hands clean bullshit. The IDF massacred Lebanese villages during the first Lebanese war, and fought UN/NATO forces as well during the second one. Israel was close to invoking a European invasion back then, and they absolutely had it coming.
In the meantime, spare me the tit for tat as well. You're supposed to be a fucking nationstate, you're not competing with terrorist orgs. Act like it, for once.
>>717491762 this kind of might makes right thinking is corrosive to society
did you know that in the past 100 years we, the west, put a backwater prince in charge of the entire mideast? read about t.e. lawrence and faisal al saud. it began to break up very quickly after world war two.
you will reap a bitter harvest from these illsown seeds
>>717491816 Multicultural societies always fail. Look at the EU. Globalism can never exist where there is freedom. The only way you achieve globalism is to rule with an iron fist and domesticate humans like cattle.
>>717491801 So much of the money given to Israel is earmarked for munitions, which is meant to be spent in America. Other fractions of the money go to both us and to Egypt for fulfilling the Sinai peace deal.
>>717492273 the elite group of 20 or so families who want an unelected global government modeled after China. Watch this sometime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho Basically they're motivated by eugenics and the notion that everyone but them are retards. It's hard to argue they're wrong but I'd rather not be killed as an undesirable.
>>717492561 You're going to dismiss me as uninformed. You'll assume I'm not familiar with what you're saying. Alternatively you might think I've been "fooled" or I'm payrolled by "them."
But bluntly? This perspective necessitates a naivety to public institutions and economoics. It's a dogpile of paranoid assumptions stacked on top of a childlike understanding of the world. Very transparently latched onto as a coping mechanism for severe personal issues.
I was on My24 trying to figure out how racially impure I am. I noticed a section on genetically inherited diseases. Jews are essentially susceptible to almost every genetic disorder because of inbreeding.
>>717492613 naw, nations can work together and maintain their sovereignty. There may be wars from time to time but it won't stop us from exploring space some day. >>717492805 You think it's naive to believe the richest people on earht might work together for the betterment of themselves and their family over people they know or care about? I'd say it's more naive to assume they wouldn't use their power to work for their ends.
>>717492983 Show me where multiculturalism works without tyranny. I'll wait. >>717493054 Remember when the government spying on you was a conspiracy theory? Yeah me too. What about flouride in the drinking water being harmful, that was a conspiracy theory too......until it turned out to be true.
This model focuses on shared traits rather than delineations.
>language >culture >tool use
within this context the nation state is a device created by ruling families to exploit and control the people and race, nations, states, religions, and even sports teams are false barriers constructed by a unified elite
its no secret that powerful people within nations have closer relationships with one another than they do with their poor
>>717492963 I think it's naive to think anything approaching 20 "families" have this much sway. It hasn't been since the imperial era that anybody has been close to what anyone would call a "world power." Do you have any fucking clue how many billionaires are out there? And you expect 20 of them to somehow con Earth itself into a suicidal project, which people happily agree to work on, on a centuries long scale that is hidden from all but Youtube conspiravid producers? The proposition is ridiculous.
Yes people wield influence. In every society there are going to be hundreds of thousands of such people, sometimes working in groups sure, powerbrokers in finance, industry, tech, politics you name it - and to make this premise of yours work, anyone who makes over a certain bracket or gets a bachelor degree and up in certain field, would have to be part of this worldwide diabolical consensus.
More likely you burnt out and that's why you're having trouble getting by, which you're trying to explain to yourself by pointing to the illuminati.
>>717492963 >There may be wars from time to time Until we have another wolrd war? There will no one be left when we have another war between the great nations of the world. If europe crumbles down and US and Russia going nuts like the do now who will stop them?
>>717492811 There are certain places that have Jewish history, such as Hebron, Jericho and Betlehem. They consider it their responsibility to create a Jewish presence there. Other reasons include security (We have to be in between the Arabs and the rest of the country in case they try to attack again! We have to keep watch!) and political reasons. (We don't want a two-state solution, so we're going to try to make sure it won't happen! Or, to be perhaps unreasonably charitable, they object to the idea of being ethnically cleansed from Arab areas. I personally doubt it.)
>>717493431 So? How is that a counterpoint? Has he started construction on a secret volcano base or something? Or is this a minister who has the surname "habsburg" and that's pretty much all we're running off?
>>717493334 I'm actually pretty happy and satisfied with life. I've just seen enough that I know what's going on.It doesn't take many people to control the world if you have a group of specialists who meet up to decide on their plans ie the Bilderburg group.
>>717493899 They damn sure don't put it on the tv very often. The media's controlled for the most part, if you don't believe that dig through the Podesta e-mails. Everything from CNN to the Colbert Report is on the payroll. >>717493900 I might, with 2 shots to the back of the head. >>717493940 How many people does it take to run Pepsi Co? One. Everyone follows her lead. Now imagine you have 50 people like her. You can control quite a bit of the world.
>>717488000 1 nice trips 2 stop paroting what your ultra Christian uncle says 3 israhell, you come up with that by yourself or did you find it on 9gag Non sincerely, atheist anon P.s fuck outta here marica nueva
>>717494187 >How many people does it take to run Pepsi Co? PepsiCo is a for-profit company with an exec board to manage its operations.
"The world" is a tangled mesh of national jurisdictions, each with their own groups, agendas and powerbrokers. It takes just about 3 mil USD to raise a starting private army, let that sink in for a moment. Now tell me how 20 people are going to conquer the rest of humanity. Moreover why would the rest of humanity not respond?
>>717490130 Basicly theirs no reason to support them then. They don't do anything g for the us, and actually turkey is us biggest ally in the middle east, although that's quickly detioriorating. Isreal is nothing but a republicuck money sink
>>717494187 >The media's controlled for the most part, if you don't believe that dig through the Podesta e-mails. Everything from CNN to the Colbert Report is on the payroll. Actually have read through the Podesta mails, have the mbox on file here now. Can't find anything of the sort in there, but if you can direct me to specific mails by all means. Have YOU read them though? Or are you reposting Alex Jones here?
>>717494481 Truth and just Pepsi isn't going to run the world or steer it in any given direction. But it's not just Pepsi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants As for why the rest of humanity doesn't respond, we did, we voted for Trump. The UK left the EU. Now we have to wait and see if Obama will start WW3 to maintain order.
Evangelical Christians call the shots in the United States, despite their whining about being "oppressed".
They believe Jews, Catholics, and all non-Christians are going to Hell, but they also believe that Jesus is due back any day now and that Israel has to be kept out of Islamic hands and under the thumb of the US. If the US "turns it back" on Israel, God will abandon us and our society will collapse.
>>717494678 You want me to post every single e-mail that points to media collusion? That'd take me a while to dig up. The easiest one to come to mind where the person implied to be working for Hillary actually admitted it was Colbert. https://youtu.be/tfXWXNItF_Y
>>717491819 >2000 years ago Get over it, you guys lost and now you get backed by a foreign power because 'armageddon' and now you see your loses as unjustified while your own genocide is justified. Isreal is the biggest hypocrite state since crusader Jerusalem.
>>717492864 Because when Muslims fuck with israle its considered a glorious rebellion by shitant feminists and hipsters and when Israel and us fuck rebels up in return its the news story for the next month and is considered barbaric. How to be Muslim Step 1 bait the fuck out of better country's due to tiny penis size Step 2 get fucked on because we are fucking useless Step 3 cry in front of a camera from the very country that your fucked with Step 4 get aid from that country because of uneducated fucks Step 5 rebel some more Step 6 rinse and repeat Arabs<Israel<first world decent countries
>>717495340 I mean, this really displays the issue here.
Obviously the two of them had an interest in the interview (both interviews mentioned here >>717495554 )
Colbert is looking to sell a show and make ad revenue. HRC/Trump are looking to put on their friendly atmos and market themselves.
Similarly I just sent notice to a US ambassador shortly ago, related to a proposal I want to discuss on behalf of my org. Does that mean I'm in cahoots with the USG? And am I part of this globalist crew now? Or am I just looking to set up an isolated mutual interest deal? One that frankly still overshadows an interview on an entertainment show in terms of nefariousness? I mean in my case there's an actual exchange of resources involved.
>>717492561 If being a globalist meant you got gassed I would happily subscribe, unfortunately your terminology is completely wrong. This is a classic case of someone hearing a word and prescribing thier own definition to it. Tld: kys retard
>>717487550 The rise of radical Islam and its inherent hatred towards everything our liberal culture holds dear makes U.S citizens very critical and skeptical of all other countries in the region. Isreal is like a giant moderate check on the insanity of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Egypt, etc.
>>717496407 Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Reduces Children's IQ. A recently-published Harvard University meta-analysis funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has concluded that children who live in areas with highly fluoridated water have “significantly lower” IQ scores than those who live in low fluoride areas.Jan 28, 2013 Literally 2 seconds to search "fluoride lowers iq"
>>717496867 Obviously not or I'd be a silly faggot who doesn't know fluoride is bad for you while trusting the government :) >>717496975 Nooyi, Indra K. – President and CEO, PepsiCo Inc She totally has no power you're probably right.....or not.
>>717497287 Actually no, cause she answers to a board. She's the chief executive meaning she's the top manager, however her plans still get vetted and approved. She merely has operational seniority over the other executive staff within her org (PepsiCo branches off to foreign subsidiaries) But yeah she can totally be fired.
>>717497993 The point is thier looking at extremely high levels of flouride that is naturally occuring, and only linking that to decreased iq in rural areas, which cannot be controlled for. Jesus I feel bad for you, do you work in the service industry?
>>717489424 Exactly. Eisenhower tried Arab unity in the 50s and basically he tried to setup Egypt as our buddy buddy in the Mid-East and they fucked us over for more power and influence in the region. So the US removed the imperial powers (I.e. Britain and France) and unilaterally destabilized the region. By the way, we should all throw a party when the Arab oil runs out.
>>717498870 Once they hit fracking levels it won't be ages until that happens, should celebrate when clean energy is finally more affordable for cars and everything else (market forces have already made clean energy cheaper to build for grid)
>>717487118 1) The religious right has convinced half the nation that Israel is holy and needs to be protected because god says so. 2) The bleeding-heart left has convinced the other half of the nation that Israel dindu (and never will) nuffin evar and needs to be protected because the holocaust. 3) The powers that be make fuck tons of money with the Israeli arms trade and has an excuse (protect muh Israel; see 1&2) to ramp up the profit margins by involving itself with affairs (oil) in the Middle-East.
>>717501983 The Religious Right is a relic of the 70s and 80s with significantly less influence now. Also, the Progressives hate Israel with a passion to say that they are the ones defending them is antithetical to their movement.
>>717487118 At first it was about the Holocaust , which did happen , and will stand for all time as the most evil intentional atrocity of the modern age . Now that Israel is strong and amoral it's all about America being cucked and liking itin the ass!
>>717489032 >only muslims will try to keep you from eating it too. Guy from a ~60% muslim country here and you can absolutely find pork and alcohol in supermarkets as well as non-muslim owned stores. To be fair though some very conservative countries in the middle east will require you to get a quota card before you can purchase these items.
>>717503249 >The Religious Right is a relic of the 70s and 80s with significantly less influence now.
Are you paying attention? The religious right gets its way on everything. When progressive bills are passed, the Christfags either get it veto'd or diced to pieces by the SCOTUS. Candidate on both sides have to shamelessly pander to them, and they elected Trump.
Ya and chistians dont behead people any more. The crusades were cool but they gave it rest. Muslims just complain about everything. And they destroy all the temples from that show ancient aliens because they dont understand that cultures existed before ALUHA AKBAR
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