JESUS is real.
He took my semen last night
JESUS wants your semen for breakfast in heaven
>Faggot. Go outside, look at the stars, and then YOU come back and tell me.
I did, he's not up there.
Does it matter OP?
Your belief system is only thing that matters as it can enhance your self esteem. Other than that God can be real or not, it really doesn't make a difference
>sigh... read the bible
The bible isn't evidence of anything other than untreated mental-illness in the ancient world....
I read Harry Potter. In your logic, magic and wizards exist because a book said so!
>Short Version of EVERY 'holy' book...
>"Once upon a time... magic! Now do as you're fuckin' told... OR ELSE!"
Your bible could be this short too, if only they took out the insanity and incest.
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yes. i thought that you meant by "real evidence" that they were captured by cameras. BUT. There was not any cameras back then. THAT means they were exellent writers, thus captured every little nuance every little step. that's why it's so big book.
Well there are forces at work in the Universe that we are (currently) blind too.
There seems to be a spirit/astral dimension. There deff seems to be mult-deminsional beings
Really ask anyone that has has a DMT or Ahyauasca trip and they will tell you of first hand accounts of witinessing "the supernatural"
Though they are seemingly "subjective" accounts, when teh data is cross refrenced there are often too many similarities to be ignored (for example, how often people encounter "machine elfs"
But an old dude with a white beard judging you for masterbating? I donno dude, thats a lil far fetchd
I don't think it really matters.
The idea of God and Heaven is really the least important part of the bible, IMO
Focus on the lessons the Bible could teach you, not arguing if there was or wasn't some dude 2000 years ago.
Read the parables, learn the lessons, love your neighbor as thy self, and make peace with all who do you wrong.
It doesn't matter who delivers the life lessons, so long as you understand and it makes you a better person.
I myself pray to the 9 divines, and follow the teaching of Mara, the goddess of love. Not because she is real, but because her lessons have something to offer me.
yes, Dr Stan Grof for example and his work with psychedelics and holotropic breathwork. He conducted LEGAL clinical studies of LSD and altred states of consciousness. You can find some itneresting things in this book
You can also look into the work of Dr. Rick Strassman and "The Spirit Molecule". Fantastic and just interseting things
I should say, i chose to word myself carefully stating things "seem" to be true, I didnt say it is
The lead important part of the bible are the words on the pages between its covers.
Like a qur'an, it is handy for the nail in the outhouse or to start a campfire.
well scientifically self esteem is influenced by your world view.
Your language, speech, thinking skills, happiness and all sorts of things are heavily connected to your self confidence.
they want you to think that he isn't so that you accept all the lies about earth being round. you believe everything "meme scientists" come up with. god is real and he's testing us currently. we're failing.
it's as if you are saying that self esteem is some sort of holy grail
plenty of morons have high self esteem
i prefer my worldview to be based on reality, not on whatever boosts my self esteem
then again, I'm not 12
Glory be. .. It be Jesus.
Kneel in prayer, anon.
> God is not a being
> God is an energy in all of us
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Questioning the authenticity of the bible is easy... because it has none.
eg. Bible says Tyre will be destroyed and never found again. Google Maps + 30sec proves the bible wrong.
So... its bullshit.
>paybook and thumbprint
Could have been a forgery scrub the original name or even could have borrowed his friends name
So did you find out how he died? What about what his teachings? Any specific quotes? What about his friends and family? What was his role? How long did he serve what did he do in the Military?
Can't support that can you?
The plain truth is you've been caught out and now you're scrambling for an argument.
Save it, sonny.
You ain't impressing no one, bwa.
Defend your bible or fuck the fuck off... using an expressive dance routine if necessary.
Only the numbers know.
Why not er on the side of caution?
Religion... the last mental-illness we don't treat.
Does your great grandfather have four other people writing about him? Clearly not. All we have is your word on him and some records that you claim are Prussian military records.
You offered him as an example proving your great grandfather is better documented Im just pointing out he clearly isn't.
Actually it is easy to doubt the existence of jesus.
It was a common name in a region where surnames didn't exist and records were few because so few could read and write.
Nothing of the jesus myth can be authenticated and you'd imagine such a world changing bunch of alleged minor trivial 'events' of divine purpose would at least have made the records.
Zip. Nothing. But a few decades later he gets a mention...
No actually it wasn't if there was a genocide of babies in the region Jesus would have been a standout oddball in a region that was depopulated of his generation of boys thanks to Herod.
>you havent studied your Bible
Evidently you havent
Heck we take Julius Caesar's accounts of his Gallic campaigns on face value even though we know he embellished it.
I said great grandparents. But to some they doubt his existence entirely.
Imaginary sky-cunt with anger issues... who goes by the name yahweh, allah, zeus, odin, flarch, genkosi, nakweeb and/or Steve... depending on how severely mentally-ill his "prophet" and best m8 happens to be.
Yeah this guy is completely normal. We should listen to him more, what an insightful guy.
Comedians tend to see the world as it really is.
You kinda have to if you wanna find the lolz.
The religious don't tend to have a sense of humor... otherwise they'd laugh everytime someone read something from the bible or qur'an out loud.
Study math, physics, cosmology and quantum mechanics for 8yrs as I did... and get back to me in 2025 so we can discuss your understanding of the scientific evidence with confidence you understand the math.
See ya then, right? Jan 2nd 2025 ok for you? About 3pm? Here?
No. Religious fanatics don't even know.
God is merely a delusion, conceived to constitute a faith-based system of morals that are the code of humanity. Don't kill me, I won't kill you. In the usage of agglutination, religion is praiseworthy. In any other sense, pasturing from the bedrock of genuine morality (it isn't), to the fundamentalist beliefs of a 2000 year-old earth (it isn't). Throughout the years, the deliberation of who's God is better has assaulted humanity with unending bloodshed, even to this day (specifically in the middle east). God is not a catalyst for peace and tranquility, he is the chaperon of death. And the sooner we abandon his substance, the sooner we can actually live life to the full.
Put in the effort.
Get back to me when we're both confident you are able to both comprehend the evidence that is available now to refute the billshit ideas on the quran and bible, and comprehend its significance and implications.
Work first. Play later.
This is a page from 'Kids Alive', the Jehovah's witness children's leaflet that mu son gets pushed through our letterbox once a week. Normally you'd have to pay £35 a year to get this shit, but my son just likes the shitty cartoons
This page stood out to me for the blurb at the bottom - this is what they're trying to teach our kids - never question, just accept
If every bible, quran and torah as well as EVERY SCIENCE BOOK turned to dust overnight and the human race forgot both completely... which do you imagine we'd be able to reconstruct EXACTLY?
Scientific understanding of the real world and the math that underpins it... or the Bible?
You already know the answer...
good point. Underdeveloped cultures might create a deity to give them a purpose, but 99% of the world would get along quite well without
Mind you, all those churches laying around might raise a few questions
God exists because he created Ronless Duncan.
If God exists (which personally, I believe He does), and you still don't believe it, or even do some ceremonial pledge to His service like most fuck stick religions make you do to join their club, you'd still make it to heaven. If God doesn't exist, we should have fun while we can. This life is all we get.