Immodium. Get the cheaper walmart version. 200 for like 9 bucks. Helps with all withdrawl symptoms. Vitamin b and benadryl also help. Realistically, however, you should just kill yourself for being a piece of shit junkie.
Mind if I ask what your dosage is, and what type of opiate you take?
Immodium for sure...
If you are withdrawing from any pharma blend, then normal dosage of acetaminaphin
As counter intuitive as it sounds...Make yourself get up, walk around...like an actual walk. Get some exercise going. nothing strenuous, but to keep the body moving, blood pumping, and muscles breathing. Trust me...It will make a HUGE difference for you
Lastly...Jerk off. It releases endorphins into your body which trip your pleasure center. Do it often...
>>717232663 first it taste like shit cuz u gotta dissolve it under your tongue and then you just feel a bit dizzy and want to vomit and want to go to sleep then it lasts so long you feel like shit the next day too
get some weed, a good game, access to facilities and stock up on soda, ride it out, there will be shitty days; and contrary to what you might believe shit will get better, just hang in there. Also stay the fuck away from fentanyl.
Having gone through mild opiate withdrawal before I second the walking around, though it feels like shit doing it.
I normally wrap up in several layers and get warm and sweaty. As long as you're surrounded by moist warm air you won't feel the bone deep chills quite so bad.
When I've been in withdrawal it's because I've run out of modified release oxy and I haven't managed to get to the pharmacist to pick up the new ones. So 24 hours is the longest I've had oxy withdrawal.
A few years back I quit dihydrocodeine because it wasn't doing shit anymore and that was like a very mild oxy withdrawal that only lasted two or three days.
If I was to quit oxy now after six years on a significant dose it would be far worse and measured in weeks rather than days I've no doubt. Oxy still takes the edge off the damage to my discs/vertebrae/spinal cord atm so I've no plans to cold turkey it atm.
>>717233229 its made for people suffering from opiate withdraws I think it has a bit of opiates and some other opioid blocker combination I thought it would be fun since I cant get hands on anything else at the moment its not fun at all, its made for withdraws only
>>717233528 It's a lot stronger than other opiates so dose is critical but on a normal persons anaesthetic dose it's never worked on me.
Unsure because of opiate tolerance or because of the family of opiates. Also it was being injected as a local anaesthetic and in general those don't work for me. Something to do with my skins absorption rates, novacaine and lidocaine are utterly ineffective so I haven't visited the dentist in twenty some years as they'd just go ahead with drilling after a dozen injections even though it didn't relieve pain for me.
>>717233424 Im in a similar boat to you anon. Have c1 c2 displaced vertebrae causing migranes. L4 L5 secreted discs and im perscribed 40mg oxy a day and that doesnt touch the pain i feel. He wont raise my dose until i concider surgery which im not doing at 28 years old.Thats why ive been substituting it with codeine and its all gotten out of hand. Im going cold turkey and regretting it by every passing minute
I commented a min ago about oxy/codeine withdrawal.
I second gabapentin, it helps with nerve pain and dampens the twitchiness a little.
I have metaclopramine and cyclizine for nausea too.
I usually drop 10mg of valium 2-3 times a day to help with spasms during withdrawal, but your mileage may vary. At 10mg+ I tend to get drowsy.
Bear in mind though, most of the day I'm bed ridden anyway, so wrapping up and sleeping for days at a time is ok for me.
Trying to hold down RL while cold turkeying is far harder. If you have to go out and do stuff then get some 10mg instant release caps to get you over the humps. You'll still be in withdrawal generally, but it helps a lot to have a little break with an IR.
>>717234464 I sympathise, I've been on 50mg twice daily for three or four years out if six now.
They raised the dosage fairly rapidly to compensate for the pain to begin with, but the dose is terminal at 50mg with 3x IR "breakthrough capsules" a day to help with "doing" times. Which is taking my son to school and picking him in my case, with the third capsule between 8-10pm as the modified dose wears off completely.
The 12 hour dose kicks in after about two hours and lasts about 8 hours. The rest of the time I have to gut it out. Similarly though, they'd prefer I have surgery than continue on on oxy lol.
It was a second surgery being botched that landed me here and no way in hell I'm going the fusion route!
The IR are 10mg so it's broadly equivalent to doubling my dose for the two hours or so that they last.
Even taking two doesn't kill the pain completely though, so extrapolating even taking 300mg+ oxy a day as modified release wouldn't leave me pain free and I'm fairly sure I'd be nodding off a lot more than I do currently. Which if I'm exhausted could be any time I sit or lie down.
Opiates are a pain in the arse in terms of a normal lifestyle, but it's better than nothing.
At least I can get out of bed to play withy boy as long as he's not too rough and I can walk with two sticks. Better than being in a chair for me, I value my independence and sitting is as gruelling as standing anyway so a wheelchair would be a doubly shit option for me.
>>717234950 The fusion is what im faced with now and i know better than to do it. Im in such a shit situation because my doc wont raise unless i go under the knife and i refuse to at this point. My game plan is to take myself off them, live thtough the hell of constant pain for a few weeks and see a new doctor explaining the situation and hopfully being adequately medicated. Its a gamble though because they all want to get you off the pills for their own security even if it means you are practically paralysed from surgery.
seriously I'm suprised more people haven't mentioned this. it's the best thing for wd. alot of people use it for wd's only even though it's good for more than that. Kratom OP. it'll change your life. Try some Bali or Indo. Red Vein too. It's typically the most opiate like.
Monitoring this thread because I've been hospitalized for alcohol withdrawal, shit was fucked. Anyway, these days my doc is quick to want to suggest antidepressants and at the same time won't prescribe anything for anxiety, actually said to Google meditation, like are you serious? You want to put me on a daily, major psychoactive drug for depression but then you don't want to give me something for temporary relief of anxiety as needed? Get the fuck out.
>>717237435 View the situation from his shoes. Im op and my game plan to get adequately medicated is to stop taking them completely to show i thought i "didnt need" them making them think im not addicted to the highs but use them as they are directed. If i were you i would ask to work out a daily pickup of meds if he was that hesitant. You need to make him think you need help not a buzz
>>717236350 >>717236483 I suppose it really depends on the person but I've never experienced any speed like effects ever. It's way more of an opiate type buzz except much more mild. You have to work on finding the right strain and dosage but once you do it feels nice. Again, it's mild. Not like oxy or Norco or anything (maybe if you're really lucky) but you'll just feel happy and relaxed. It acts on your opioid receptors so it's good for pain and anxiety. Probably why it helps with withdrawal too.
>>717239075 Thats how my codeine habit started. Using that inbetween oxy to maintain regularity. And it wasnt long until i was taking both in conjunction. I dont care what anyone says about codeine being a weak opiate. You take enough and it converts to enough morphine to have you feeling elgrande
>>717238020 At this point I'm thinking about how I'm going to stop drinking so much. They said I had elevated liver enzymes when I was in the ER a few weeks ago. Had hypertension with 204/140 on the EMT's meter. Taking 100mg metoprolol now, seems to be working, can't put the fuckin bottle down though.. fully functioning high level alcoholic.m easily put down half a handle and go to work the next day.. what the fuck am I supposed to do?
>>717239266 the thing about kratom though is that it doesn't work the same way. you can take more for a stronger effect but there's a natural limit. eventually it will get to a point where it won't effect you. You'd end up taking too much and getting sick. Nausea, shaking, vomiting, etc. But that's it. You don't have to worry about overdose. There have been no recorded cases of that happening ever. And kratom actually acts as an opiate blocker too. If you tried to take it with pills, they'd be bunk.
>>717231717 you're just going to have to ride it out, take a hot back a couple of times a day, it will help with the cold sweats, eat small meals more often, and if you cant shit but you know you got to go learn to give yourself an enema it will help,
>>717240584 it could. it's not going to treat the withdrawal but might help alleviate the symptoms. similar to how benzos help. red strains are excellent relaxants. the only thing I'd be careful with is your water intake. kratom dehydrates you and you're already losing water I'm sure. I'd say it's worth a try.
>>717241189 No words can describe any drug trip, you must learn for yourself young grasshopper. Be careful with the LSD though, one too many and your done for life, that's why I drink so much these days, takes the edges off the trip.
>>717241189 i was able to get about 100 percocets around this time last year due to a knee injury first you feel like a real warm relaxed feeling and I felt it in my chest with the first 20 or 30 it kind of feels nice to nod off in bed and get a little sleep going eventually you need a handful of them as soon as the other handful wears off and you begin to crave the feeling and feel like shit if you dont have them
>>717231717 OP I've been through what you're going through. Follow the recipe at the link and it will help you immensely. The most difficult thing will be not getting that feeling of euphoria that you used to get from opiates and therefore during your withdrawals you may feel extremely depressed and you will be interested in nothing. Force yourself to eat and you must force yourself to at least walk for at least 30 mins a day. This will help you believe me.
If you're fucking serious about stopping, whatever you do. Do not relapse back on to opiates. Try tramadols, because your 2nd withdrawals from opiates will be much worse.
>>717241900 you can buy it at your local headshop yeah. you can buy online. amazon will probably have some. lots of kratom vendors online. I would recommend Odus Botanicals. Good selection and quick delivery. Online is gonna save you a shit ton if money. Way cheaper to buy in bulk. But I understand not wanting to wait either. Plus local spots stock bunk shit sometimes. I would try a bag or two local in the meantime while you wait for some good shit in the mail. Do it now while it's still legal.
>>717241900 It won't dissolve in water but you can make tea out of it. Or you can try swallowing raw powder with a drink (toss and wash). Simplest way is capsules. Buy a capsule machine and some gel caps. Pack em yourself. So worth the money.
>>717243018 You'll have to check the legality of it there. I'm in Indiana and it's illegal here but I am super cool with a couple vendors I met on plebbit (r/kratom is actually a great place to learn all about it), and they deliver to me. But yeah check the legality of it bro
>>717232956 Suboxene should stop all withdrawl symptoms for the most part. You shouldn't take it within 12 or 24 hours of taking a opiate however as it does normally contain Naloxene. I don't know why this other fag is complaining about suboxene , I've been on it for 2 years and its saved me from being a useless junkie and I never had any negative side effects from it since I took it as prescribed by a doctor and didn't do anything dumb like take it shortly after getting high.
>>717245309 I guess I wasnt clear about what I was doing I was trying to take suboxene to get high was expecting an opiate feeling not using it for intended purposes I felt like shit on it and didnt get high im sure it works great for opiate withdraws
>>717231717 Go buy some beer, wine, moonshine, whatever. Get drunk. Stay drunk for 3 days. Stop drinking. You will be through the withdrawals and you won;t be an alcoholic. But take no Tylenol or Ibuprofen. Just drink right through the withdrawals. I used to have a RX to opiates. Took them all in the first 20 days. Went through withdrawals once a month. Getting drunk when I ran out made it like it never happened.
>>717244318 Do you flip between Kratom and Opiates? I used Kratom to "kick" opiates and after 2 months thought all was cool. I stopped because I went out of town for 10 days, worst 10 days ever. Kicking Heroin was on par but that only lasted 3 days, after 10 I was still hurting from Kratom.
quit being a pussy and just lay in bed with anti diharea medicine for a week. after 1 week symtpoms go down, 2 weeks you will start feeling normal. >just withdrew off 240mg morphine a day for 9 years 1 month ago.
>>717231717 If you have issues with RLS (which imo is one of the worst parts of withdrawal), I recently discovered that a parkinson's medication called L-Dopa/Carbidopa OR an OTC supplement called L-tyrosyne that converts (albeit less potent) into dopamine in your body almost instantly fixes the problem. I've been on suboxone for around 5-7 years and getting off now. I'm on day 8 and it feels like I'm over the biggest hump. If I didn't have the l-dopa from my dad who gets parkinson's tremors (and had excess to share) I wouldn't have made it through.
It works in about 20 minutes after taking it and the only noticeable side effect is vivid dreams (which you're probably gonna have anyway in withdrawal...)
>>717231717 i hear kratom is pretty good for opiate withdrawal. its legal btw its only a plant, tho dont know what doses you should take. heres a link if you want to read more about it http://www.mitragyna.com/usage
Don't go too hard on the benzos though... I think it's been mentioned already that withdrawal from those can last months longer...... :/
Weed is GREAT for temperature regulation in addition to epsom salt baths at jacuzzi temperature. Epsom salt has magnesium to ease the muscles.
Also, this might sound strange, but if you're into meth, it makes the withdrawal almost nonexistent. Be careful of your heart of course, but it helped me with getting off of suboxone. For something harder like real opiates I might not recommend meth... just stick to weed and LIGHT benzo usage.
it's a combination of buprenorphine and naloxone. Buprenorphine is a partial mu-opioid receptor agonist (the opioids that make you feel good are u-opioid agonists) and a kappa opioid receptor antagonist (which makes you feel like shit). Naloxone is the antidote drug for opioid overdoses, it blocks the mu-opioid receptor, and is included in suboxone to prevent you from shooting it up, it can't be absorbed under the tongue very well so it doesn't affect you if taken sublingually.
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